Thursday, November 13, 2008

BUSTED!!



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Orange County District Attorney
Press Release


Tony Rackauckas, District Attorney
401 Civic Center Drive West
Santa Ana, CA 92701


For Immediate Release
Case # TBA

November 12, 2008

Contacts:
Susan Kang Schroeder
Public Affairs Counsel
Office: 714-347-8408
Cell: 714-292-2718

Farrah Emami
Spokesperson
Office: 714-347-8405
Cell: 714-323-4486


PROTESTANT PASTOR CHARGED WITH MOLESTING
14-YEAR-OLD FEMALE PARISHIONER

NEWPORT BEACH– A Protestant pastor of the Apostolic Christian Church in San Clemente was charged today for molesting a 14-year-old female parishioner that he met through his job. Ricardo Avalos Maffey, 42, Santa Ana, was charged with three felony counts of lewd acts upon a child between the ages of 14 and 15, and one felony count of contacting a minor with the intent to engage in child molest. If convicted, he faces a maximum sentence of five years and six months in prison. He is out of custody on $100,000 bail. Maffey is scheduled to be arraigned Dec. 5, 2008, at 8:30 a.m., Harbor Justice Center, Newport Beach. The Department will be determined later.

Maffey met Jane Doe through his role as a pastor. Between May 2008 and August 2008, the defendant is accused of violating his position of trust by engaging in illegal sexual contact with Jane Doe. On multiple occasions, he is accused of passionately kissing Jane Doe on the mouth. He is also accused of contacting her several times to meet and engage in kissing.

Anyone with additional information or who believes they have been a victim is encouraged to contact District Attorney Supervising Investigator Randy Litwin at (714)347-8794 or the Orange County Sheriff’s Sex Crimes Investigation Unit at (714)647-7419.

The Orange County Sheriff’s Department investigated this case. Deputy District Attorney Tony Ferrentino of the Sexual Assault Unit is prosecuting this case.

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Wasn't Richard Maffey in line to serve on the Apostolic Assembly General Board? Has the organization made a public comment? How far in advance did they know Maffey was performing these lewd acts and did nothing?

Don't worry, the insurance companies will pay the attorney's fee's and penalties.

http://orangecountyda.com/home/index.asp?page=8&recordid=1074&returnurl=index.asp%3Fpage%3D8

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/OC-Pastor-Accused-of-Kissing-Teenage-Girl.html

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/orange/la-me-pastor13-2008nov13,0,1568393.story



http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=4226712&cl=10649090&src=news

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SLJ said...

caminando_voy:

Sad to say but Pacheco is a bishop.
Only I think he was never voted in.
After his involvement in the car scam and facing the law. BR sent him to Chile and is I think automatic appointed Bishop.
So he didn't even need the two votes here.

trophyman said...

Is it really true that Jaimie Aguilar is still looking for the right $%#^@*&? What is her preference size or color? or both? LOL!

LA DIST. W/Insights into Rancho Cucamonga

WatchOut! said...

Wannabe Prophet Augustin Factso:

Re your comment - "Please pray for the Hernendez family in the Los Angeles area because the devil is trying to them."

Perhaps it was just God's will and the devil had nothing to do with it, did you think of that? You are some prophet, here the Hernandez family is going through enough and you comfort them by saying that the devil is after them.

Hey, by the way are all your 300,000 saved souls tithing yet? Since you are reaching them online maybe you can just get them to do bank transfers. Ask Pacheco (Appointed Bishop) how this can be done surely he has some ideas on scamming. I bet the gb is salivating at the thought.

Seven-T said...

So THAT'S why my internet access has been so slow! Factsonyly or better yet SpamOnly1 is spamming! Can anybody please tell me who to report SpamOnly1's spamming activities???? 300,000 e-mails, for pete's sake!

Surely, no one takes this character seriously, right? ROFLOL!!!!!

LET ME TELL YOU WHAT'S NEXT! said...

Anybody or anyone that has not been revealed by the Lord of the evil spirit that dwells in the heart and souls of the Honorable GBM needs to really search the word of God in Ezequiel 34.

Son of Man: Prophesy!!!!!

The excuses that you all make for these GHM only shows the desperation that you all have for a "sense of idenity".
"A SERIOUS I.D.COMPLEX SYNDROME!!!!!!!!!


But this "sense of indentification"
Is not of God...
It is "carnal" and "distructive>"

Yes, never was Valverde, nor Pacheco, nor Aguilar Elders, NOR Bishops according to the AA constitution to be "QUALIFIED"
according to the AA constitution to be presiding in any rank of the GB.

This is exactly why this "carnal and distructive" spirit is in full
control. And if you do not "smell", cause it stinks..,nor "feel it" because it is explosive, "nor see it" then you are completely and totally....
suffering from lack of DISCERNMENT!!!!

Let me share with you what has been going on for several years...
"ONE OF MY MANY OBSERVATIONS"

There have been many funeral services of The Saints that have gone beyond TO BE WITH THE LORD... in the last few years, especially here in California.

With all respect to their families I will certainly reserve from mentioning their names.

But Samuel Valverde, nor Pacheco, Nor Sanchez, nor Ma, nor others have attended those funeral services...I WITNESS SEVERAL WHERE THEY WILL 'SEND A DELEGATE', TO REPRESENT THEM...'THE SECRETARY OF SOCIAL ASSISTANCE, THAT DOES "NOTHING' AND GIVES THE WIFES OF THE MINISTERS. $50.00 PER MONTH, FROM SOME FOUNDATION...THAT DOES NOT FUNCTION...



They are simply too busy, attending the Ball GAmes and the golfing appointments TO ATTEND, SO THEY SEND A "DELEGATE" (ONE)

AND THEN THEY CHARGE THE GRIEFING FAMILY $1,800.00 FOR THE PROGRAMS DISTRIBUTED TO THOSE ATTENDING, SO THAT SAM'S VALVERDE SON'S PRINT SHOW CAN GET THE REVENUE....WOW !!!, HOW CRUEL!!!

Now that Sam's father in law has passed away,
Word is that Sam is "looking" desperately for an auditorium, or stadium, that will seat at least
THREE THOUSAND TO FOUR THOUSAND BECAUSE HE EXPECT ALL THOSE TO "COME AND PAY" THEIR RESPECTS..


BUT WHAT ABOUT WHEN OTHERS THAT WERE "GRIEFING" APOSTOLIC FAMILIES...
DID HE AND THE OTHERS SHOW UP?????
DID HE GO AND PAY THEIR RESPECTS??? NO THEY SENT A DELEGATE....

IT DOES NOT MATTER IF THEY GO OR NOT, BUT THEY SURE WANT THOSE "DOUBLE SALARIES", BUT THE GBM DO NOT COMPLY TO THE "RULES" OF THE WORD OF GOD.!!!!

NO, THEY DID NOT!!!!
But that doesn not matter, those people were not'IMPORTANT' AS SAM'S RELATIVES.....

AND TOO.....THE AA HAS FUNERALS FOR "AA REUNIONS".


SO SAMMY WILL SURELY BE UPSET WHEN HE FINDS OUT THAT "THAT IS THE ONLY" REASON THE PEOPLE WILL ATTEND.
FOR A "REUNION", BY THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN "OUSTED OF THE AA AND FOR THOSE THAT "LEFT, TO THE
UPC,, CALVARY TEMPLE, THE VINEARD, ETC.,AND "OUSTED AA EX.MEMBERS...


SINCE THE GBM IS "DOING AWAY WITH CONVENTIONS"
BECAUSE THEY WANT THE MONEY SPENT ON CONVENTIONS, TO COMPLETE THEIR DOUBLE SALARIES!!!!!
...THEY WILL SIMPLY HAVE
REUNIONS AT FUNERALS.

HOW PATHEIC......

Will you go????and bow down to them?????

Sure you will!!!!!!!...that is why that family has the "grips" on the Future of theAA..
Because we are too ignorant to have the "Spirit of Discernment>"
NOR DO WE ASK THE LORD TO GIVE US THAT GIFT. NOR DO WE PAY ENOUGH TO SEE THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE GETTING RICH ON THE BRETHREN...

Pray that the Lord will give YOU THE SPIRT OF DISCERNMENT...

''''''ENRIQUE SAID IT CORRRECTLY'
ON HIS POST.....NOVEMBER 13,2008 AT 1:36 P.M.

"THAT SAME SPIRIT OF ARROGANCE, AND BEING PRIDEFUL AND INSENSITIVE, IS WHAT WILL BE THE "DOWN FALL OF THE ENTIRE HONORABLES".
ENRIQUE SAYS" IF THEY DO NOT REPENT....'

BUT MY DEAR BRETHREN, READ ROMANS 1:

GOD HAS GIVEN 'THE GBM, AND TURNED THEM OVER TO A "COMFUSED"MIND....FOR THEIR CRUELTY...AND INSENSATIVITY TO THE BRETHREN, PASTORS AND BISHOPS...


It is too bad, I say that very few people read these blogs...
Its the same the same the same...
ONES THAT READ AND WRITE. SO THE BRETHREN ARE NOT INFORMED...

PASS THE WORD......

The Pastors are intensified
with "fear" to lose their churches...

AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHERE AND WHY THE HONORABLES WILL PAY....

JUST TAKES A FEW MORE DAYS...
WHO WOULD EVER THINK R.M. WOULD BE IN THIS SITUATION????


WELL THE HONORABLES ARE NEXT. BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOT FEAR OF THE LORD AND NO LOVE FOR THE BRETHREN... 'JUST THEIR MONIES'!!!!!!TO KEEP BUYING BENZES AND VACATIONS AND FANCY HOUSES, AND INVESTING IN HIGHER SCHOOLING..
FOR SELF CREDIT....

WE WILL PAY MONIES FOR IT ALL.... SO WHAT???

OH, BUT YOU DO...SO KEEP SENDING REGARDS TO ABEL AGUILAR....YOU ARE ALSO ENTANGLED IN THIS CRITICAL SITUATION...
ASK THE LORD TO "OPEN YOUR EYES"..

IT IS DEFINATELY NOT CHRIST
LIKE!!!!

MAY THE LORD HAVE MERCY .....

GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU..

"BE GENTLE AS A DOVE, AND "WISE AS A SERPENT'.

THE BIBLE ALSO STATES; "DO NOT BE
OVERLY JUST.....THAT YOU DESTROY YOURSELF."

FIGHT FOR OUR "RIGHTS"

THANK YOU "BLOGMASTER"
YOU SAID IT .....
IT IS MOST SURELY A REVOLUTION!!!!

WE ARE "FIGHTING" FOR GOD'S CHURCH AND FOR THE "SAINTS THAT TOILED, PRAYED, FASTING AND PLANTING.CHURCHES, THROUGH THICK AND THIN. IN POVERTY AND STRUGGLE..AND THESE HGM, "DO NOT OWN THE APOSTOLIC ASSEMBLY OF THE FAITH IN CHRIST JESUS."

BUT WE DO NOT STOP THEM.,,,
BY NOT GIVING THEM ANY ONE HOMAGE, AND MONIES. THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS!!!!!!!! OF DOLLARS, AND THEY NEVER HAVE ENGOUGH...
NOT EVEN WITH THEIR DOUBLE SALARIES.....

PLEASE WAKE UP!!!!

THIS IS WHY WE DO NOT LEAVE!!!!!
THE AA...BECAUSE IT IS OURS.....GOD'S CHURCH....

GOD WILL SURELY REMOVE THEM....
YOU WILL SURELY WITNESS THIS...
IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD AND SAVIOR.....

THUS SAID THE LORD... TO BE "WISE".....

DON'T DOUBLE OVER AND BOW DOWN TO THE GMB'S SUBJECTIONS....

PLEASE WAKE UP BEFORE THEY SWALLOW YOU ALIVE.....BAIT AND ALL....

MAY THE LORD BLESS YOU AND YOURS..
AND GOOD NIGHT.

I WILL PRAY FOR ALL OF YOU.

Redeemedintheblood said...

To “I’ll Tell You What Next” or should I say “Thought for the Day”

My brother: Praise the Lord!

First let me say my brother that I’m glad that your back, at least this blog will be more interesting. I would also like to say that I don’t have anything personally against you but I feel that as before when you posted as “THOUGHT FOR THE DAY” your word betray you.
You post scriptures and you exhort everybody to “wake up” and you say that you will pray for everybody but again I say your words betray you.

I don’t know if you’re not claiming to be a pastor anymore or an 80 year old man as you did before but I think everybody on this post has the right to know the following questions if we are to take you seriously.
If you choose to ignore my post or ignore to answer the following questions, you by your own actions betray your own words and effort to convince us, in other words your words on this blog would be meaningless.

So here are my questions:

1. Have you left the AA or are you full of fear like all those other pastors you criticize
2. What has happened to the Revolution?
3. What has happened to your leader “Scotty Will Show You?”
4. Since you seem to know so many pastors, Why cant anybody list a complete list of the churches that you would claim before was leaving the AA in the MAS EXODUS
5. Why do you always talk about MONEY in your post?
7. How do you come up with the amounts that you post, could it be that you were one of them, maybe you are bro. Baldemar or bro. Solomon and are now full of bitterness and jealously because you did not get on to the GB.
6. Why do you post so much bitterness and division?

My Brother “I Tell You What’s Next/ Thought For The Day” be a man of INTEGRITY and with out fear and answer my questions or are you just like those on the GB.

I guess we shall see !!!!!!

God Bless!

Redeemedintheblood said...

I guess that since Facts Only1 did not answer my questions this must mean we have a false prophet and a student of a false prophet

God Bless!

WatchOut! said...

Who cares if "Let me tell you what's next" is "Thought for the day"? I'm just glad he's back. You don't know who this really is. Wouldn't you feel awful if he or she really is an 80 year old who might have mixed up a thing or two here and there. The way I see it he knows enough about those "gallos" and it sounds true enough. So you lighten up and let him or her have her say. At eighty he or she has earned the right to speak their mind!

Oh by the way I'm not really sending real regard to Abel Aguilar just letting him know I'm still around knew him when he had a real vision. He's gone to pot in his old age. Hung around with the "gallos" too long.

Factsonly1 said...

Brother, why would I answer a worker of ignorance and division?

I am too busy working for the kingdom of God on earth. I am too occupied with my calling. I am too busy saving souls.

How many souls have you won for the Lord?

Yes, the Hernandez family has a dark cloud of a curse over them. You see, I am spiritual enough to recognize that the spirit of death is devouring them.

Its a message to all of you to repent.

Someone said they were just falling asleep. No. Fruits are fruits. And when you sow something that reaps deaths dark spirit, then its a curse.

But there is good news. We have been winning souls for the Lord. New souls are replacing all you old timer old schoolers.

Its the new generation of apostolic prophets that are replemishing souls for the church.

My challenge to you this day is to win souls for the Lord.

nevaeh said...

Dude your whack!!!! Being related to the family....it is no curse...... your wacko!!!It is Gods timing. We all have an appointed time. It will happen to you to by the way. Dosent mean you were cursed. God called them home.You are so playing a game and that is not cool for you to say such things. You are so wrong and I pray God deals with you for wacko words on the eve of Sis Rosies services. The way your talking is like you belong @ metropolitan state hospital in Norwalk Ca.

Factsonly1 said...

Actually, it was revealed to me in deep prayer that Sister Hernandez was the exception to the Hernandez curse. Her mate, Pastor Hernandez, is now joined with her in glory.

But there is a curse of the black cloud that follows them for some reason.

I can't say why, but its obvious they are paying for the sins of generations ago. Its biblical that sins are generational.

Outside of sister Hernandez, there have been 4 to 5 Hernandez that have died in the past 24 months.

This calls for a super prayer chain of the high calling of new generation prophets like Reverend Prophet Steve Montenegro, who has a higher standing as well as Prophet Jeff Aguilar. I might even ask that Prophet Anthony Romo join in prayer to form a Tri-Unified spirit to bring down the holy ghost to cover the remainding Hernandez family.

Lets form together with the new generation of apostolic prophets to fight the devil and his evil works!

Amen!

WatchOut! said...

nevaeh, hey don't you let the wannabe Prophet Factso get to you. The guy has noodles for brains. He really is just on here to provide us with a few laughs and amazement at his idiot comments.

If you're gonna be at Sis.Rosie's funeral watch out if they try to do an exorcism. Wouldn't put it past Factso the Spammer, Pacheco the Scammer or Sam the Wannabe Pope. I wonder if they'll do another Holy Comunion.

God bless your family through your losss.

Factsonly1 said...

I bet thats how you would respond to Jesus, mr caminando. Its that old timer attitude that is killing off the church.

Thank God for the new generation of apostolic prophets that is saving souls.

Your seat in the kingdom can be replaced.

WatchOut! said...

Nawww, I would respond to Jesus and say "Please Lord have mercy on him, he's just an idiot" when he asks me about you.

WatchOut! said...

I love the "old schools" cause they're full of wisdom that comes from personal experience and are certainly entitled to speak their mind.

Factsonly1 said...

I'll be praying for you.

When I speak to Prophets Montenegro, Aguilar and Romo, I'll be forming the perfect Tri-Unified Force against evil.

You talk negative all the time. Do you have any good to say? Do you even pray?

Its no wonder that your generation is filled with backsliders and child molesters, like former brother R. Maffey.

WatchOut! said...

I beg your pardon Factso, I just said some very nice things about the old schools. You on the other hand just insulted a whole generation! THAT IS NOT NICE! Besides you don't even know what generation I fall in. I could be 110 years old or I could be 15. That's whats so great about this blog no one knows who you are. Except God, of course. He's watching you.

WatchOut! said...

Tri-Unified Force? Is that some sort of evil symbol? Sounds like a pentagram or something like that. What are you getting yourself into factso? Watch out buddy!

nevaeh said...

LOL It's Factso AKA Anti Christ! LOL

SolidRock said...

Nevaeh

My prayers go out to you and the Hernandez family. I never knew them but i heard great things about them.
May God comfort the family and continue to bless you all.

As for factso, he is just a childish wanabe. He is in the peanut butter and jelly, and milk and cookies generation. I think he has a crush on montenegro and aguilar and now romo. LOL

He keeps coming back for more!!!
Here he is live.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4hpbOD5sCo

Remembering said...

Factsonly1; I am sure Steve,Jeff and Romo would like to get a hold of your neck. You are hurting them more than you are helping them. I am sure because I know them. They don't want to be identified with you in any way. You go on and continue working for who ever you are working for and let them work for the Lord. You are given them a BAD name. THEY DON'T NEED YOUR HELP!!!

Factsonly1 said...

Promoting violence toward an evangelizing man of God that I am is very dangerous.

But even if someone would try or even get me by my neck, I would not fight back.

See, by doing so I would become a marter for the lord. As in biblical times when they were sawn asunder, fed to the lions, tarred and feathered and scalped.

Getting me by the neck would only prove that I am in God's will.

I can take it. Prophets Aguilar, Romo and Montenegro are great men and are a Tri-Union of the modern power of the spirit and new generation of apostolic prophets that are saving souls by the thousands for the lord.

I am not powerful like them, but I lust for their unction of the holy ghost filled with fire. Filled with prophesy and a prophetic word.

Its the new generation of apostolic prophets that form a dynamic and powerful Tri-Union force to deal with the wiles of the evil one.

God Bless them and I will keep you bloggers in prayer.

I must get back to my work on this earth.

Remembering said...

Factsonly1: Exactly, that is what Satan does he goes out and walks this earth seeing who he
may devour. God have mercy on the souls that encounter you.

Good-Bye!

WatchOut! said...

Now look what you've done factso! And you claim to be a winner of souls. There's blood on your hands!

Factsonly1 said...

The number of deaths in the family speaks for itself.

The sins of the father pass from generation to generation. So do the fruits of that sin.

Thats pure bible. I didn't make that up. I invite my fellow theologicans to check me on that.

I'm sorry if I offended you. But to use such foul language is sinful.

Remember, you are talking to a supporter of the Tri-Unified holy ghost filled Prophets. Prophets Romo, Montenegro and Aguilar. I am an apostle of the them.

What we bind on earth is bound in heaven.

I'll be praying that the lord fill your foul mouth with praises from the lord and less (F) words.

Factsonly1 said...

I have taken some time from my extensive evangelizing to share a word with you on generational curses.

If you will, open your bibles to:

Exodus 34:6-7 - "And He [the Lord] passed in front of Moses, proclaiming, 'The Lord, the Lord, the compassionate and gracious God, slow to anger, abounding in love and faithfulness, maintaining love to thousands, and forgiving wickedness, rebellion and sin. Yet He does not leave the guilty unpunished; He punishes the children and their children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation.' "

Deuteronomy 11:26-28 - "See, I am setting before you today a blessing and a curse - the blessing if you obey the commands of the Lord your God that I am giving you today; the curse if you disobey the commands of the Lord your God and turn from the way that I command you today by following other gods, which you have not known."

Generational curses are judgments that are passed on to individuals because of sins perpetuated in a family in a number of generations. Generational curses are similar to original sin curses because they can be passed down on a generational basis. They differ in that generational curses do not impose eternal judgment. They bring judgment or bondage during an individual's life, reducing the quality of life, until that individual addresses the sin issues that put the curses into place.

Moses addressed this issue when the Israelites were preparing to enter the promised land. He told the new generation that was preparing to enter in that they would not enter unless the dealt with their own personal sins and also the sins of their fathers. The account can be found in Leviticus 26:39-42

"Those of you who are left will waste away in the lands of their enemies because of their sins; also because of their fathers' sin they will waste away. But if they will confess their sins and the sins of their fathers - their treachery against me and their hostility toward me, which made me hostile toward them so that I sent them into the land of their enemies - then when their uncircumcised hearts are humbled and they pay for their sin, I will remember my covenant with Jacob and my covenant with Isaac and my covenant with Abraham, and I will remember the land."

As I have said in other writings, curses take away the quality of life. They can bring failure, shame, sickness and even physical death. They are temporal in nature, causing much grief. They are administered to get our attention and encourage us to turn back to God. Those who are humbled by them, repent and find restoration and renewed freedom from the Lord. Those who become angry, self-righteous and rebel against what God has permitted, and thus remain unrepentant, go deeper into bondage and darkness.

The Scriptures reveal a two prong approach for dealing with generational bondage. We have to address (1) Personal sins and also (2) Generational sins (in the family).

At this point, I know that many Christians will reason, "I thought that all the past is under the blood when I received Jesus as my Savior!" As far as your salvation and eternal destiny is concerned, that is true. But our enemy loves to cause us grief when there are sins connected to our lives (personal or generational) that has not been addressed through repentance and confession. Do you remember that time when you received Jesus into your life? You acknowledged your sin in a general way and asked Him to be your Savior and forgive you and cleanse you. The Lord was very gracious with your general confession, but later on the Holy Spirit began to convict you of sins in your past. You were led to repent of them and confess them specifically to the Lord. Why did the Spirit do that? He wanted you to be free of any legal claims of the enemy upon your life. It had nothing to do with your salvation, but the quality and freedom of your new life in Christ.

Why does God permit the enemy to do be such a hindrance? Because the Lord, in His sovereignty, can use even the enemy's activities to accomplish something good in our lives. Some of the effects include chastisement, testing of faith, a guard against complacency, humility, and the motivation to pursue a sanctified life.

How do we begin to address the problem of generational curses and bondages? First, you must develop two sin lists - one personal and one for your family (including parents and the members of each of their families). You must be specific and thorough. Take your time. Go before the Lord and ask Him to help you prepare those lists.

The following is a list of sin categories to help you prepare your lists. Check the following:

IDOLATRY: _Eastern Religions (list) _Meditation _Chanting/mantras _Cults (list them) _Secret Orders/Lodges _Material things _Money _People
OCCULT: _Astrology _Fortune telling (various types) _Ouija Board _Seances _Dungeons & Dragons (or similar games - board or computer) _Hypnosis/Self-hypnosis _ESP _Crystals _Psychic healing _Occult literature _Occult beliefs _OOBE (Out of body experiences attempted/experienced) _Spiritism _Parapsychology _Psychic beliefs and practices _channeling _mind control

WITCHCRAFT & SATANISM: _Incantations _Spells _Dedications _Rituals _Ritual abuse _Blasphemy/Mockery _Literature _Beliefs _Sacrifices _Perversions _Magic _Santeria _Voodoo _Wicca _ Powwow healing witchcraft (Pennsylvania Dutch) _Maloike (Italian witchcraft) _Druidism (Celtic witchcraft)

SEXUAL SINS: _Fornication _Adultery _Pornography _Rape _Incest _Lust _Masturbation _Homosexuality _Abortion _Bestiality _Pedophilia _Exhibitionism _Abuse _Fantasy _Other perversions

DRUGS/ADDICTIONS: _Illegal (list) _Alcohol abuse _Smoking (abuse of body) _Prescription drug dependency _Food dependency

BELIEVING SATAN'S LIES: _Regarding self-image _Regarding God _Regarding religious beliefs _Regarding people _Regarding behavior _Regarding world standards and philosophies

FEAR: _Fear of failure _Fear of success _Fear of Rejection _Miscellaneous fears (list) _Anxiety _Worry _Despair _Hopelessness

UNBELIEF: _Lack of trust _Double-mindedness _Doubts _Skepticism

DECEIT/DISHONESTY: _Lying _Stealing _Exaggeration

PRIDE: _Self-righteousness _Self-focused _Vanity _Arrogance

REBELLION: _Disobedience _Disrespect _Self-will _Desire to be in Control _Stubbornness

ANGER: _Hatred _Bitterness _Resentment _unforgiveness _Rage _Revenge _Slander/Gossip _Critical/Judgmental _Blame-shifting _Prejudice/Bigotry _Malice

WISHING DEATH: _For self _For others

VIOLENT ACTS: _Attempted suicide _Abuse _Murder

VULGAR & ABUSIVE LANGUAGE: _Cursing (Lord's name in vain) _Sarcasm _Condemning _Off color stories and jokes

MUSIC: (Regarding content of message or performers' lifestyles) _Occult _Satanic _Sexual _Rebellion _Drug oriented _Focus on Death

ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE: (with roots in false religious beliefs or with psychic/occult influences) _Reiki _Therapeutic Touch _meditation techniques (emptying the mind) _Transcendental Meditation _acupuncture _acupressure _sonopuncture _iridology _chromotherapy _sound therapy _kinesiology _radionics _astrologic medicine _orgonomy _bioenergetics _biofeedback _hypnotic regression _reflexology _polarity therapy _Rolfing _Do'in _Shiatsu _yoga _Kirilian photography _autogenics _iridology _Ayurvedic Medicine _Tai Chi _Qigong _Traditional Chinese medicine _visualization techniques _psychic diagnosis _psychic healing

UNSCRIPTURAL SEEKING OF SPIRITUAL GIFTS OR SPIRITUAL EXPERIENCE: _Priming the pump to receive tongues _Accepting any personal experience without testing it by the Word of God _Receiving personal prophecies without testing them and having them confirmed by God and the body of Christ.

This is only a guide to aid you in preparing your sin lists. It is not comprehensive. Not every sin is listed. Add whatever is applicable to your situation.

Make sure that you are truly repentant as you confess these sins. Otherwise the confession means very little. It is important to be repentant on behalf of your family. If you continue to be angry and bitter towards your family, your prayers will not be effective. Ask God to give you a spirit of forgiveness.

After you have confessed all sins on each list, renounce any claims of Satan upon your life in the name of Jesus Christ. Declare that you have placed all his claims against you under the blood of Jesus Christ, your Savior.

Then spend a time of worship and praise to the Lord. Thank Him in advance for the deliverance and healing that He is going to bring into your life.

Don't expect everything to come at once. The Lord will unfold to you new freedoms in the days that follow. Don't compare yourself with anyone else. His work in your life will be different than in other lives. He knows what you need and when you need it. Keep close accounts with the Lord. Stay in His Word and in prayer. Stand against the enemy. When you have new freedoms, remember that the enemy will visit you trying to steal them away from you. Keep your eyes on the Lord. The Lord loves you and He is faithful.

I conclude with this, we must unite with the new generations of apostolic prophets to break the curses of your fathers.

Amen!

east los said...

TO FACTONLY1 ...
I WONDER WHY GOD HAS NOT CALLED YOU TO BE A PROPHET LIKE YOUR BRO. ROMO,MONTENEGRO,AGILAR MAY BE BECAUSE THE SINS OF YOUR FATHER AND THE CURSE YOUR FATHER HAS, HAS BEEN PASSED DOWN TO YOU..AND ALL YOU CAN DO IS RIDE ON THE TAIL OF YOUR BROTHERS....PS. DONT BE SORRY FOR SOME THINK YOU SAID BAD ABOUT THE HERNANDEZ, I SAID WHAT I HAD TO SAY TO YOU. YOU STILL ARE A LOW DOWN DIRTY DOG.. AND ALL I CAN DO IS LEAVE YOU IN GOD HANDS...YOU REALLY HURT ME IN WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT PASTOR DAVID H. AND FAMILY BUT IT IS NO LONGER MY FIGHT IS GODS..YOU WILL SEE MY BRO.OR SIS. THEY MAY BE WORDS TO YOU.. BUT TALKING ABOUT PASTOR DAVID WHO HAS BAPTIZED MORE SOUL THEN YOUR PROPHETS PUT TOGETHER AND WHO GIVE HIS LIFE FOR THE WORK OF THE LORD NOT ONLY AS A AA PASTOR BUT AS A MAN OF GOD..... PS..A GENERATION CURSE CAN BE BROKEN WHY DONT YOU ASK YOUR FATHER OR READ YOUR BIBLE.

SolidRock said...

Factso-Bozo

So you learned a new word huh?
Tri-unufied??

If it was not a sin, i'm sure montenegro, romo, and aguilar would ring your neck, and i would love to clock you into tomorrow!!!!

It sure is a joke how you attract so much negativity. Does'nt look like your such a follower of Christ. Can you spell denial?

Remembering said...

Mary: Like my grandpa used to say "There you go "Preach!"

justice_will_prevail said...

per prophet john arcovio at abel aguilar national missions summit this past summer at ct... three things were going to befall the gb before or on the 17th of this month. the 17th is this coming saturday. I wonder if the appellate court will rule by then?

did anybody hear this preaching? any comments from the AA cyberspace on this?

LET ME TELL YOU WHAT'S NEXT! said...

factsonly---
"If you are so much into the Word, the Bible ,then you must be totally in agreement with the Word of God in
Ezequiel 34:

That describes the "generation
CURSES"

that have been since the beginning of time, due to Satan's influence...etc.

So you must also know from your Biblical exegesis, that Ezequiel 34 describes the condition of Israel, and look to this day what Israel has had to endure.

Now, we see the Honorables, as they address themselves., and we see the continuation of "those "evil curses".

First of all you must see, that this "Honorables behavioral issues" were "learned", and passed on to this day and time.

This is exactly why we that have prayed for the spirit of "discernment" so we can see "RIGHT THROUGH THEM......"

As for the ONES THAT YOU ARE addressing,AS PROPHETS...
Romo, Aguilar, and Montenegro and your self..
THIS IS EXTREMELY DANGEROUS!!!!!

The last prophet according to the Bible was Malachi.

It is the final book of the Old Testament and it is about the error of "forgetting the love of God.

When people forget God's love, it affects their attitudes, home and worship.

With God's love and loyalty in doubt, sacred commitments no longer remain sacred.

This is why the Bible is so divinely inspired because it has no "period in life" that it can not be addressed to.

"Its without season..."

It was alive BEFORE Genesis 1 and it still is because the Word was made Flesh. God is the Word.

So do not address these people AS "Prophets", without you being guilty of "mocking the Bible".

If young Aguilar was such an anointed person and "called from God" and not from his "Dad". He would not "subject" himself to take over a church, that was "forcefully" ripped out of the hands of Bishop Willie Mendoza who "toiled" for that church.

If the son was "wise" he would prefer to "establish his own foundation" and not on someone else's foundation...

But this is where there is no wisdom, just greed, for "self glory".

That's the whole problem!!!!!!...

As far as Romo, I heard him "screaming on top of his "lungs"..

"preaching means, "speaking the word of God."

We do not need to scream...annoying the hear drums of the "listeners"
WE ARE NOT ANY LONGER IN THE AGE OF NO 'MICROPHONES' SPEAKING IN THE
"OPEN SPACES"...

IF WE DO HAVE "STREET SERVICES" EVEN THEN "PUBLIC ADDRESS" EQUIPMENT CAN BE OBTAINED>

SO WHAT IS ALL THAT SCREAMING ABOUT?????

See, I tell you it a "learned" modismo..from the old....passed on
to abuse the audiences....


THERE WAS "ONCE UPON A tIME" AND OLD TIMER MESSENGER OF PEACE PRESIDENT, THAT "NEVER WANTED TO "MATURE", CONFUSING, "MATURING WITH AGEING",
HE TAUGHT ALL THIS TO US...AND NOW WHAT??????
ABUSE TO THE AUDIENCES AND TO THE LORD.....

You better shout" and you better agree, or you will be blasted out of your seat........"LEARNED, BEHAVIOR...AND SINCE WE RESPOND ,WELL KEEP IT UP......

AND THEN WE GO AND SHAKE THEIR HANDS, AND SAY 'GREAT PREACHING'

SO IT CONTINUES...HUH BROTHER AGUILAR AND ROMO????


But we must realize that those that "scream" behind the Podium, who control the "Podium" are absolutely and extremely "nervous" and "release" their anxieties on the "expense of our 'ear drums.'AND ALSO VISITORS THAT NEVER COME BACK...

THE SCREAMERS, they are to be pitied, and they truly are.!!!!

I remember years back Abel Aguilar commenting, that he and his wife were "ready" to leave the Assembly.

They were "extremely" blackballed" by "THE coming up Valverde....
BUT THEN AGUILAR WIFE, KNEW JUST HOW TO DO IT.....
SHE WAS A FROM AN OLD FAMILY EXTREMELY "SABE" ON POLITICS..


'TRAP RACHEL, AND WE'LL FIX THOSE "GALLOS" THEY SAID.....

Valverde is such an insecure individual, as Sanchez and the rest.

I have taken a good count of hundreds.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!................of young anointed ministers. who were "black balled" by that evil man Valverde....
He had alot of "pull" because his Dad in law, God rest his soul....
Was very "powerful" in the San Diego area, and with the "rulers" of the GBM of that time...

Anything. and I mean anything Junior Sammy wanted, Sammy got.....

That was the price,given to him for marrying Rachel....

Big price.

So you are so right BLOGGER THAT STATED THAT ..."They began very poor, but were given the "road" to riches by those in control...of the GB.
AND WE FELL ON THE TRAP AND CONTINUE TO 'GIVE AND GIVE AND GIVE....JUST TO 'RUB SHOULDERS...

SOME DAY YOU WILL REGRET THIS...FOR GIVING TO THEM...YOU SAY "WELL I GIVE TO GOD," AND GOD WILL TAKE CARE OF THEIR BAD DEEDS...'
SURE GOD WILL...BUT MEANWHILE THEY ARE LIVING IN THE "HIGH" AND YOU????
BECAUSE WHERE YOU REALLY SHOULD BE GIVING, DIRECTLY TO MISSIONARIES, AND WIDOWS AND ORPHANS, AS THE BIBLE TEACHES.

YOU KEEP GIVING FOR THOSE MEGA HOUSES AND BENZES!!!!!

Its coming down as we can look back and see.
But it is "ABSOLUTELY up to you to do something about it!!!!!!!!
.

What???????????
Stop giving them honor and MONIES....
THAT IS THE ONLY WAY.....
THEIR BANK ACCOUNTS....DOUBLE SALARIES....

I BELIEVE BROTHER JOHN ARCOVIO IS A MAN OF GOD.

BUT I WILL PRAY FOR HIM, SO THE LORD REVEALS TO HIM...WHO REALLY ABEL AGUILAR IS AND ALSO SAMMY VALVERDE...

AND HOW MUCH "EVIL THEY ARE DOing WITH THE REST OF THE "HONORABLES" TO THE ENTIRE APOSTOLIC ASSEMBLY, WITH NO "REMORSE" , NOR LOVE OF GOD.......WHAT SO EVER....

AND WHAT DO WE DO??????

"NOTHING"..... "just give so more...

LETS CONTINUE TO PRAY AS EZEQUIEL 34 STATES.....


ABEL AGUILAR AND VALVERDE AND PACHECO AND SANCHEZ, AND THE REST....WILL LIVE TO "REGRET" BEING PART OF "OUSTING" BISHOP ABEL TORRES, AND ALSO AGREEING TO DO "FRAUD" IN ELECTIONS...

May the Lord have mercy on us...

GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU.....
AND "GOOD NIGHT".

Ram Shackle said...

For all you ignorant rejectors of the new testament. "Therefore if any man is in Christ, he is a new creature; the old things are passed away; behold, new things have come." (2 Corinthians 5:17). There are no generational curses for new born christians. The Lord has called the Hernandez's because they had an appointment with death. You guys are some real losers.

Ram Shackle said...

Ignorant people say that the wedding ring is vanity. However, the wedding ring as a sign of fidelity and committment. You sound like Pharisees. At least the Pharisees were intelligent and educated. Some of you communicate like high school drop outs.

Ram Shackle said...

Apply for federal financial aid, go to college, and join the rest of us Americans. All you other losers can get your girlfriends pregnant, molest an under aged youth in church, Pastor a church of 50 members for life, play volleyball in a denimn skirt, sell veils at a convention booth, and spend all your life aspiring to be in charge of the AA's laughable and fraudulent ministries.

Factsonly1 said...

Since when is evangelizing the world of sinners a laughable ministry?

Soul winning for the lord is the best ministry in any church.

And its the new generation of apostolic prophets that is taking the apostolic church to new heights in evangelism behind Prophets Romo, Jeff Aguilar and Steve Montenegro.

These prophets have been able to evangelize the higher end of society. They are winning lawyers, government officials, doctors, psychologists, bankers, philanthropists.

Its a new day for the apostolic church!

WatchOut! said...

The best sign of fidelity is just plain fidelity itself. No ring big diamond or small diamond, expensive or inexpensive is going to keep anyone from cheating on their spouse.

WatchOut! said...

Awww factso, I think today I'm just gonna leave you to your idiotic ramblings. And I say welcome to all those "high class souls" you and the "prophets" are winning over. Just don't forget about the "regular" souls. They tithe better. Rich folks usually owe way too much to afford tithing.

Factsonly1 said...

Brother Caminando, are you saying that your wife is not worth a ring?

Do you have rims on your truck? Do you have a plasma tv?

I must get back to my job here on this earth.

I spoke to one of the Tri-Unified Prophets last night, and he agrees there is a movement of the spirit of generational sin in the church.

We are in prayer for all of you who have the fruits of generational sin.

called2proclaim said...

LEAVE ALL THE MAN MADE TEMPLES...

GO and meet in homes the believers practiced this... we have been miss led... pass the word around...Here are helpful resourses...God Bless u All.

The House Church...
Exactly what is meant by the phrase "House Church?" "House churches" describe small groups of believers - even as few as 2 or 3 - who gather in the name of Jesus Christ. They are very similar to the earliest churches which were customarily designated in the Scriptures as household units. These first Christians, you may recall, reveled in the fact that they personally had become the new dwelling place of the Almighty - living stones in God's spiritual temple....
It is astonishing how many belong to a house church without even knowing it! Let me explain. Open your Bible to Romans 16 and look through vv. 3-16. Can you identify all the house churches? In v. 5 we have the "church" that meets at Priscilla and Aquila's house. There is a group that meets in a "household" in v. 10. In vv. 14 and 15 we find "...and the brothers with them" and "...the saints with them"--other clear references to groups that meet in homes. Many scholars see additional clusters of the gathered people in the other verses in this chapter. From Romans 16 one can say that the word "church" should be defined as any gathering of people that meet on a regular basis in Jesus' name--whether in a house or in some other setting. But why, you might ask, does the word "church" only appear in the first group? Simply because Paul chose the Greek word ekklesia in that verse, and translators are in the habit of translating that word as "church." The word actually means "assembly or group," and is used in the Greek Old Testament to describe any kind of group, even a group of "evildoers" (Ps. 26:5). We have the middle-ages to thank for the English word "church" that means an assembly dedicated to Christian worship, and when we use that word we can't help but bring in all the baggage that we and our culture have attached to it. The point is simply this: many so-called "Bible Studies," "cells," and "small groups" are actually house churches in the true, New Testament sense. They are just like those to whom the letter to the Romans was addressed--and, in fact, just like all the other churches during the first century. None had steeples. None used Robert's Rules of Order. They were just assembles of the "gathered people" (Mt. 18:20).Anyone who has had a good experience in a house church can attest to the intimacy there and the closeness one feels to God. They are also well known for their ability to bring new people into a relationship with Jesus Christ. Because of their popularity and effectiveness it is no surprise that institutional churches are falling over each other these days to find a way to add "cells" and "small groups" to their ministries.How do you understand the arrival of Paul's letter in Rome, probably carried by Phoebe (Rom. 16:1)? Your answer will reveal your understanding of the word "church." Did Phoebe rent out a big room at the Holiday Inn and call all the churches together? Did she stand at a pulpit and "preach" the letter to all believers in Rome? Perhaps. The Bible does not say. But I imagine a much more intimate sharing of the letter, perhaps along these lines: Phoebe went to the first house church, she worshipped with the believers present, and then waited until she was invited to share the message from Paul. The reading of the letter was probably followed by a time of discussion, Phoebe making sure that Paul's message was understood. They would have parted with a benediction and holy kisses, and the next day would find Phoebe at the next "church."The institutional church is an invention of later times. Those that see themselves as places of biblical teaching, celebration, and mission deserve the support of God's people. That so many have started cells and small groups is to be commended. We need to support these churches with our attendance and with our purse. But not all institutional churches have such pure motives.
What do we mean by 'simple church?'

Some call them house churches. Some call them organic churches. Some call them simple churches. We prefer to just call them churches. They are rapidly multiplying, simple communities of believers, meeting in homes, offices, campuses, wherever God is moving. This is the pattern common to many parts of the globe, and is now becoming more and more common in the U.S. as well.

Where are two or more are gathered in His name, there is church.

Where "DNA" is present among people, there is church.

"D" stands for Divine Truth (loving God/Jesus)
"N" stands for Nurturing Relationships (loving one another deeply)
"A" stands for Apostolic Mission (being on Jesus' mission to the world)

Buildings, programs, and professional clergy are not essential elements of a church.

By 'simple church', we mean a way of doing and being church that is so simple that any believer would respond by saying, "I could do that!"

By 'simple church', we mean the kind of church that is described in the New Testament. Not constrained by structure but by the needs of the extended family, and a desire to extend the Kingdom of God.

By 'simple church', we mean a church that listens to God, follows His leading and obeys His commands.

By 'simple church', we mean spiritual parents raising spiritual sons and daughters to establish their own families.

House Church

House Church is a term sometimes used in the way we use the term Simple Church. It can be confusing in that:

A Simple Church may or may not meet in a house (it can meet anywhere).

Church Planting Movements

Church Planting Movements occur when simple churches multiply rapidly.

This is a Very Old "New" Idea

Churches in the New Testament were most often small gatherings that met in homes.


"Greet Priscilla & Aquila, my fellow workers in Christ Jesus. They risked their lives for me. Not only I but all the churches of the Gentiles are grateful for them. Greet also the church that meets at their house." Romans 16:3-4

"But when the Jews opposed Paul and became abusive, he shook out his clothes in protest and said to them, 'Your blood be on your own heads! I am clear of my responsibility. From now on I will go to the Gentiles.' Then Paul left the synagogue and went next door to the house of Titius Justus, a worshiper of God." Acts 18:6-7


Does 'simple' mean lower quality?

Absolutely not! While no structure or format can guarantee quality, we believe that the small, participatory, family-like environment of a simple church is ideally suited to the goal of helping people become passionate disciples of Jesus Christ.


Dont be part of an organiztion or institution...Tithing pulpits benches are all not biblical...Research pray seek and u shall find,,,
REVIVAL are not occuring in temples made of man revivlas are happenig in the field at houses people come togetheir and fellowship, share what the have, share in the lords supper at their homes in the dinner table..

Here is more links:
www.truthguard.com
http://www.freehousechurchresources.com/
Google it read it in the word of God...

the TRUTH shall set u free..

SLJ said...

Quote from Truth Guard
"Many professing Christian churches today are unbiblical slave camps that exist to serve the agendas of men. These "churches" can be likened to a modern day Egypt and the alleged “men of God" in the pulpits can be likened to Pharaohs."

Instead of servents they come as LORDS, and sit on their thrones and proclaim "WE ARE THE PASTOR, WHAT WE SAY IS THE LAW,AND IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT....LEAVE

All with the blessing of the Bishop

Seven-T said...

factsonly1 said:
I spoke to one of the Tri-Unified Prophets last night, and he agrees there is a movement of the spirit of generational sin in the church.

So I suppose that means that the Maffeys (Richard), Sanchez (Eliseo), Aguilars (Jamie) and the list goes on, are comdemeed to hell because of a family sin. And all of these are part of the GB. Wow.

Unknown said...

Whats the deal with Jamie Aguilar now? Why is everyone bringing her name out these days?
-C

called2proclaim said...

LEAVE ALL THE MAN MADE TEMPLES...

GO and meet in homes the believers practiced this... we have been miss led... pass the word around...Here are helpful resourses...God Bless u All.

The House Church...
Exactly what is meant by the phrase "House Church?" "House churches" describe small groups of believers - even as few as 2 or 3 - who gather in the name of Jesus Christ. They are very similar to the earliest churches which were customarily designated in the Scriptures as household units. These first Christians, you may recall, reveled in the fact that they personally had become the new dwelling place of the Almighty - living stones in God's spiritual temple....
It is astonishing how many belong to a house church without even knowing it! Let me explain. Open your Bible to Romans 16 and look through vv. 3-16. Can you identify all the house churches? In v. 5 we have the "church" that meets at Priscilla and Aquila's house. There is a group that meets in a "household" in v. 10. In vv. 14 and 15 we find "...and the brothers with them" and "...the saints with them"--other clear references to groups that meet in homes. Many scholars see additional clusters of the gathered people in the other verses in this chapter. From Romans 16 one can say that the word "church" should be defined as any gathering of people that meet on a regular basis in Jesus' name--whether in a house or in some other setting. But why, you might ask, does the word "church" only appear in the first group? Simply because Paul chose the Greek word ekklesia in that verse, and translators are in the habit of translating that word as "church." The word actually means "assembly or group," and is used in the Greek Old Testament to describe any kind of group, even a group of "evildoers" (Ps. 26:5). We have the middle-ages to thank for the English word "church" that means an assembly dedicated to Christian worship, and when we use that word we can't help but bring in all the baggage that we and our culture have attached to it. The point is simply this: many so-called "Bible Studies," "cells," and "small groups" are actually house churches in the true, New Testament sense. They are just like those to whom the letter to the Romans was addressed--and, in fact, just like all the other churches during the first century. None had steeples. None used Robert's Rules of Order. They were just assembles of the "gathered people" (Mt. 18:20).Anyone who has had a good experience in a house church can attest to the intimacy there and the closeness one feels to God. They are also well known for their ability to bring new people into a relationship with Jesus Christ. Because of their popularity and effectiveness it is no surprise that institutional churches are falling over each other these days to find a way to add "cells" and "small groups" to their ministries.How do you understand the arrival of Paul's letter in Rome, probably carried by Phoebe (Rom. 16:1)? Your answer will reveal your understanding of the word "church." Did Phoebe rent out a big room at the Holiday Inn and call all the churches together? Did she stand at a pulpit and "preach" the letter to all believers in Rome? Perhaps. The Bible does not say. But I imagine a much more intimate sharing of the letter, perhaps along these lines: Phoebe went to the first house church, she worshipped with the believers present, and then waited until she was invited to share the message from Paul. The reading of the letter was probably followed by a time of discussion, Phoebe making sure that Paul's message was understood. They would have parted with a benediction and holy kisses, and the next day would find Phoebe at the next "church."The institutional church is an invention of later times. Those that see themselves as places of biblical teaching, celebration, and mission deserve the support of God's people. That so many have started cells and small groups is to be commended. We need to support these churches with our attendance and with our purse. But not all institutional churches have such pure motives.
What do we mean by 'simple church?'

Some call them house churches. Some call them organic churches. Some call them simple churches. We prefer to just call them churches. They are rapidly multiplying, simple communities of believers, meeting in homes, offices, campuses, wherever God is moving. This is the pattern common to many parts of the globe, and is now becoming more and more common in the U.S. as well.

Where are two or more are gathered in His name, there is church.

Where "DNA" is present among people, there is church.

"D" stands for Divine Truth (loving God/Jesus)
"N" stands for Nurturing Relationships (loving one another deeply)
"A" stands for Apostolic Mission (being on Jesus' mission to the world)

Buildings, programs, and professional clergy are not essential elements of a church.

By 'simple church', we mean a way of doing and being church that is so simple that any believer would respond by saying, "I could do that!"

By 'simple church', we mean the kind of church that is described in the New Testament. Not constrained by structure but by the needs of the extended family, and a desire to extend the Kingdom of God.

By 'simple church', we mean a church that listens to God, follows His leading and obeys His commands.

By 'simple church', we mean spiritual parents raising spiritual sons and daughters to establish their own families.

House Church

House Church is a term sometimes used in the way we use the term Simple Church. It can be confusing in that:

A Simple Church may or may not meet in a house (it can meet anywhere).

Church Planting Movements

Church Planting Movements occur when simple churches multiply rapidly.

This is a Very Old "New" Idea

Churches in the New Testament were most often small gatherings that met in homes.


"Greet Priscilla & Aquila, my fellow workers in Christ Jesus. They risked their lives for me. Not only I but all the churches of the Gentiles are grateful for them. Greet also the church that meets at their house." Romans 16:3-4

"But when the Jews opposed Paul and became abusive, he shook out his clothes in protest and said to them, 'Your blood be on your own heads! I am clear of my responsibility. From now on I will go to the Gentiles.' Then Paul left the synagogue and went next door to the house of Titius Justus, a worshiper of God." Acts 18:6-7


Does 'simple' mean lower quality?

Absolutely not! While no structure or format can guarantee quality, we believe that the small, participatory, family-like environment of a simple church is ideally suited to the goal of helping people become passionate disciples of Jesus Christ.


Dont be part of an organiztion or institution...Tithing pulpits benches are all not biblical...Research pray seek and u shall find,,,
REVIVAL are not occuring in temples made of man revivlas are happenig in the field at houses people come togetheir and fellowship, share what the have, share in the lords supper at their homes in the dinner table..

Here is more links:
www.truthguard.com
http://www.freehousechurchresources.com/
Google it read it in the word of God...

the TRUTH shall set u free..

WatchOut! said...

Wonderful! Now we should all meet over at Valverde's mansion or maybe Sanchez's illgotten home, or at Pacheco's and maybe buy a ummm car while we're there.

Factsonly1 said...

Bishpop Valverde has a humble house. Why do you keep referring it to a mansion? He's running a major corporation and should live according to the riches of man here on earth.

Its the spirit of lust that the Tri-Unified Force of Prophets are casting down.

May the spiritual force of the Tri-Unified Prophets be with you brother caminando.

Its the new generation of apostolic prophets that are casting down old timer spirits of lust and envying.

SLJ said...

Major Corporation????

A Major Corp. makes and profits on its own. Not on the backs of people. Or donated money that suppose to go to missions.
Besides there is a difference of running it or running it to the ground.

What-Ever!! said...

Hey Factso.......who called your prophetic or pathetic trinity Prophets? Who are the sanctioned, endorsedor even appointed at best as prophets...you make me laugh

And you calling yourself an apostle? wow....figure out what you're saying before you say it.....stupid!

What-Ever!! said...

Romo, Aguilar and Montenegro......The Pathetic oops i'm sorry the Prophetic Trinity


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

called2proclaim said...

HERE IS THE LINK.


WWW.TRUTHGUARD.COM

http://www.freehousechurchresources.com


gET AWAY FROM ORGANIZATION AND INSTITUTIONS..
INSTED OF GOING TO CHURCH BE THE CHURCH...RESEARCH WHAT IS CHURCH..

WatchOut! said...

So are you saying that all churches should disband immediately and folks should just stay within the confines of your home and have church? Like home schooling? Jeez!

lito said...

hola mis amigos paisitas "aa"
no hablen majaderias.

lito said...

Por favor ya no hablen tanto de
r. maffey.
como se dice en ingles, "grow up"
tocante referencia a sus comentarios.
Todo perro tiene su cola, unos larga otros corta. Todo CABRON tiene sus equeletos en el closet.
No se asombren tanto de lo que sucedio. En cualquier organizasion hay gente que comete errores. Si quieren conocerse mas mirense al espejo.

lito said...

Desafortunadamente el "AA" habla mucho tocante la santidad, la predican, la cantan, la lloran, la
reciven en el "holy gost" (el fantasma espiritual, y hasta se visten con ropa santa que parecen TALIBAN's del medio oriente.

Es tanto haci la SANTIDAD que cuando sucede algo delicado como lo que sucedio con r. maffey, los chismes de paisas empiesan y las iluciones de santidad se les acaban. Mejor oren y rugen y recen a DIOS por el para que DIOS lo bendiga con su familia.

WatchOut! said...

Factso asked me earlier when I was ignoring him -

"...are you saying that your wife is not worth a ring?"

Sure she is, watch -

Ring-ring-ring - "Hello, honey (to wife) are you being faithful to me. Okay that's beautiful, luv you sweetheart. (slam phone down) Okay, BABY (to girlfriend, at her house) I've gotta go now, WHERE THE HECK'S MY RING?!

...and that's the value of the RING!

Ram Shackle said...

In the bigger scope of religious organizations, the AA has not achieved success or come close to other pentecostal religious organizations. In fact, the 3 prophets have not accomplished anything that several other AA leaders have already accomplished. Sure they can speak well but their churches are really small. Look at Montenegro's church-average for America, Romo- it's his father's flock and mostly illegal immigrants, Aguilar-Nothing in NY and reaping the benefits of another pastor's work in TX. These young men may be prove to be good leaders in the future but they have not succeeded in growing their own local churches.

Ram Shackle said...

Factso...
Tell us which lawyers,doctors, gubment officials, etc., go to Montenegro's church, Romo's church, and Aguilar's church. With the exception of Steve, the fathers of the other two prophets are much more effective than the offspring. The jury is still out on Romo. Jeff will never be as effective as Abel, even though Jeff knows music. Steve's father is just plain boring but yet very diplomatic and appears sincere. I believe these men won't be much more effective than their own fathers, if at all.

rsvp said...
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Factsonly1 said...

I would be very careful about speaking against the holy works of the Tri-Unified Prophets.

Speaking against them is speaking against the holy ghost. Thats blastphemy.

Speaking bad about the work of the lord is a dangerous thing.

Prophets Romo, Aguilar and Montenegros(Prophets RAMs) are annointed PROPHETS of the Lord.

They are unified in the last great and mighty movement of the last decade on this earth.

I will remind you that its the new generation of apostolic prophets that are ushering the great evangelism that is reaching billions of souls world wide.

called2proclaim said...

caminando_voy

Should A Pastor Rule Over You?


Authoritarianism in the church is one of the most serious problems that Christian churches face today. Authoritarian regimes and political machines within Christian churches are not only totally unbiblical, but they empower men to take a church anywhere they wish, bypassing the normal checks and balances found in the Bible. A church that has given control to a single man (often called a Senior Pastor) or to a small group of men (often called a board of elders) is helplessly tossed about in very dangerous waves.

Suddenly churches are turned on a dime according to the whims and agendas of men. If a dictatorial pastor wakes up on the wrong side of the bed and decides to take the whole church off a cliff doctrinally, most congregations just blindly follow, thinking they are helpless to do anything about it, if they even notice or care at all. Christians have been bombarded with the lie that certain men are appointed by God to rule and reign over His people. No, the Bible forbids such things and gives us the solution.


The popular yet monumental misunderstanding of authority in the church is probably the biggest problem driving the false church system. The main problem is with the people that the Bible calls "Nicolaitans", those who Christians allow to conquer and suppress them. (From the Greek, the word "nico" means "suppression or conquering of" and "laos" is where we get the word laity which means people). In Revelation 2:6 and 2:15, Jesus said that He hates the practices and teachings of the Nicolaitans.

Not surprisingly, most Nicolaitans refuse to acknowledge and admit that they are Nicolaitans. They make the false claim that no one can really know what a Nicolaitan is or is not. Most just quote a popular fairytale that the word means a follower of the mythical heretic Niclaus. Not so. The truth is we know quite clearly exactly what the word means and exactly who these people are. Plus, it doesn't make any sense that Jesus would mention something that He hates and then never let us know what exactly that He was talking about.

Today there is no shortage of those who want a counterfeit Saul to be king over them and there is no shortage of Nicolaitans who want to be that king in the place of Christ. (By the way, the definition of antichrist is one who opposes Christ and/or stands in His place). At least God told Samuel to appoint Saul as king. Even though God was displeased with the fact that Israel wanted a man as king instead of Him, he still authorized Saul’s appointment. Today’s multitude of counterfeit “Sauls” have no such authorization from God. They are self-appointed and people powered. Here’s why we know that they are counterfeit leaders (they may be real Christians but they are false pastors):

All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to Jesus (Matt 28:18).
Jesus alone is the Head of the church (John 5:26-27, Eph 1:22-23, Col 1:18).
God does not permit Christians to have controlling authority over other Christians in the church (see Matt 20:25-28, Mark 10:42-45, Luke 22:24-27, 1Pet 5:3, Matt 23:8-12, etc.).
We do not have multiple special high priests over us. There is only One High Priest, Jesus Christ (see Hebrews 3:1, 4:14).
We have One Master Christ and we are all brothers (see Matt 23: 8-12).
You cannot obey two masters; you will love the one and hate the other (Matt 6:24, Luke 6:13). You simply cannot obey Jesus as master and a pastor as master at the same time.
There is a big difference between genuine behind-the-scenes loving elders who stand firmly for sound doctrine and admonish the Body of Christ to obey the Bible compared to a Nicolaitan one-man show who teaches his own agenda and draws men away to himself through manmade teachings and traditions. While the Bible makes it clear that we are supposed to submit to governmental authorities such as to the police and obey the laws of our land (pay taxes, obey traffic laws, live peacealby, etc.), we are also commanded to not set up authoritarian systems or regimes within Christian churches.

For there to be any hope for any church to navigate through the ever worsening apostasy that is upon us, now more than ever, Jesus alone must be recognized as the One solely in charge and His Word the Bible must reign supreme. That is how it was always supposed to be, at all points in church history, but that is not how it has been, and that is certainly not how it is today.

More on this subject can be found in the Articles section.

This article was also recently titled "The Authoritarian Disaster". A portion of this article is an updated excerpt of my article "When A Church Becomes A Business".

for more information..
www.truthguard.com

LET ME TELL YOU WHAT'S NEXT! said...

This is in Spanish for those that require it.

All that you comment and write, everyone of you...has a very good point. But we must ignore those immature people that have the abuse all of us with diabolic words.


First of all its a sin and that makes


satan happy.


Hermanos ustedes que dan el voto que no "vale" nada durante las elecciones...Pidale al Senor Jesus que le de a usted VALENTIA, PARA SOPORTAR AL DIABLO.

SE SABE MUY BIEN, EN LO PASADO DE LA HISTORIA DE LA ASAMBLEA APOSTOLICA, QUE TODO EL TIEMPO QUE HOMBRES TENIA EL PUESTO DE LA MESA DIRECTIVA, Y A LA VEZ TENIAN IGLESIAS QUE ERAN PASTORES....
SIEMPRE TENIAN MUCHA CONGEGACION....

ASI ES AHORA, QUE ESTOS QUE ESTAN EN LA MESA DIRECTIVA, TIENEN MUCHO
SEGUIMENTO en sus iglesias...

porque siempre lOS MIEMBROS LES estan "rogando" y haciendoles "la barba"....UNA FORMA DE EL COMPLEJO DE IDENTIDAD......"AQUI ESTOY PASTORCITOO...MIREME.....NO ME IGNORE!!!!



PERO PODEMOS VER QUE SIGEN AL HOMBRE, Y NO A DIOS..

PORQUE EN REALIDAD, LO QUE ESTAMOS VIENDO EN EL MUNDO AHORITA, ES QUE LA VENIDA DE EL SENOR Y ESTAN LAS SENALES MUY POSITIVAS DE EL LEVANTAMIENTO DE LA IGLESIA..

CUAL IGLESIA?????
NO CREO QUE SOLA LA ASAMBLEA APOSTOLICA SERA LEVANTADA...

Y MAS COMO ESTAMOS AHORA EN TANTA
ALTIVEZ DE ESPIRITU MALO.
Y ESPIRITU "MAFIOSOS""""

DE MATAR ESPIRITUALMENTE. HECHANDO HERMANOS "FUERA DE LA IGLESIA" QUE QUIEREN LA JUSTICIA. Y VOTOS SANOS, Y JUSTOS...
NO SUCIOS, Y FRAUDES...


USTEDES QUE VOTAN PERO NO VALE SU VOTO PARA NADA...

NO ESTAN HACIENDO NADA PARA SACAR A ESTOS HOMBRES...."EGOCENTRICOS, QUE SOLO PIENSAN A SI MISMOS"

HACERCE 'RICOS' PRONTO......
SUFRA QUIEN SUFRA!!!!

QUE NO TENIEN AMOR, NI COMPASION DE LA HERMANOS..SINO QUE SIGUIEN
POR MAS Y MAS DINERO...


PONIENDO DE NUEVO ...A LAS MISMAS 'DORCAS DE ANOS Y ANOS.. GORGINA, Y SANTA DESPUES DE MAS DE 20 EDADES...EN LAS "DORCAS"

PORQUE??????? PORQUE LAS "CONTROLAN, LAS MUNIPULEAN, Y LES SACAN TODO EL DINERO DE LA IGLESIAS LOCALES, Y DE LOS DISTRICTOS...

Y DEGAN A LOS DISTRICOS POBRES, SIN CONCIENSA....

PORQUE TRABAGAN A LAS "HERMANAS" PARA LA FLOR AZUL Y MANO A MANO....\

TODO SE VA CON LOS "HONORABLES", COMO SE DICEN "ELLOS A SI MISMOS"

Y NADA QUEDAN PARA LAS "IGLESIAS LOCALES......."NADA" POR ESOS HAY TANTAS "IGLESIAS" POBRES...

Y LOS PASTORES TENIEN QUE TENER TRABAJOS SECULARES...PORQUE TODOS LOS DINEROS SE VAN A LOS "HONORABLES"!!!

LOS OBISPOS TAMBIEN TIENEN "LA CULPA"
Y MUCHO........TIENEN LOS OBISPOS LA CULPA....PORQUE NO DEFIENDEN A SUS PASTORES, Y A SUS IGLESIAS NI A LAS "DOERCAS" DEL DISTRICTO.....


PORQUE EXIGEN A LOS PASTORES QUE DEN, Y DEN , Y DEN , MAS Y MAS , Y LAS DORCAS......
PARA QUE EL DISTRITO SALA ADELANTE...

Y EL OBISPO ESTEN EN MUY BIEN CON LOS "HONORABLES"

Y PREGUNTAN PORQUE MUCHOS PASTORES, YA NO ASISTEN A LAS CONVENCIONES????

PORQUE ESTAN HARTOSSS. DE SER "OPRIMIDOS"""


POR ESO ESTA ESTA "ROVOLUCION" QUE NO VA A PARAR...

SIEMPRE "LOS HONORABLES" QUIEREN .... MAS Y MAS DINERO...
Y NUNCA TENDRAN, Y nooooooooooooooooTIENEN FIN...


VALE MAS QUE VALLAN AL FUNERAL DE EL SUEGRO DE SAMMY VALVERDE...
PORQUE SI NO VAN SAMMY LOS VA A "PONER EL BOLA NEGRA"...

LO VERAN CON SAMMY....
Y SAMMY COMO "LA MAFIA" PAGA CON MUERTE..."AFUERA MIS HERMANOS."

AUNQUE EL NO TENGA QUE ASISTIR A LOS FUNERALES DE OTROS HERMANOS DE LA IGLESIA, EN LO PASADO......

VALE MAS QUE USTEDES VALLAN....

A VER SI NO RECOJE "UNA OFRENDA"


DIOS TENGA MISERICORDIA DE NOSOTROS, Y NOS HAGA LIBRES...DE HITLER EL "HABLADOR"...(VALVER, PACHECO, Y DE SANCHEZ.....


PERO NO ES MUY FACIL HACERLO PORQUE SE LES TENIE, MUCHO MIEDO......
PERO EN CRISTO HAY PODER...
Y AFUERA ESTOS LOBOS RAPASES!!!

ORANDO SIN CESAR VENCEREMOS......EN EL NOMBRE DE JESUCRISOT!!!

NO SIGA.....
APOYANDO A ESTOS HOMBRES MALVADOS...
QUE ESTAN LLENOS DE PODER FALSO, Y DE ARROGANCIA...

LA PALABRA DE DIOS DICE, "RESISTIR AL DIABLO Y DE VOSOTROS SE IRA."

TENEMOS QUE RESISTIR A VALVERDE, DE UNA MANERA FIRME Y FUERTE....
DEJANDOLO SOLO...

ACUERDESE QUE VALVERDE TIENE EL MISMO ESPIRITU DE ARROGANCIA Y DE PLIETO COMO SU TIO, EFRIAN VALVERDE, DIOS LO TENGA EN PAZ.

SE VIO LA MISMA DIVISION EN ESE TIEMPO QUE SE ESTA VIENDO AHORA...

PERO USTEDES SIGUEN DANDO DINERO, Y MAS DINERO, Y MAS Y MAS DINERO.

Y TOLERAN QUE RECIBAN TODOS LOS DE LA MESA DIRECTIVA GRANDES SALARIOS..."DOUBLES SALARIOS DE IGLESIAS Y DE LA MESA DIRECTIVA.

Y TODAVIA ESTAN PIDIENDO MAS Y MAS Y MAS DINERO.....
NUNCA, Y NUNCA, HUBIERA SAMUEL VALVERDE ASUMIDO A LA MESA DIRECTIVA,

A DESTRUIR TODO LO QUE SE ALCANSO POR OTROS HERMANOS YA EXTINTOS,CON TANTO SACRIFICIO...


EL NOMBRE "VALVERDE" NO SE MENCIONABA EN AQUELLOS TIEMPOS....PARA NADA, TENIA UNA ONDA MALA...Y DE CONFUSION, Y DE DIVISION...


PERO..................CUANDO VALVERDE SE CASO CON LA HIJA DE EL OBISPO CONTRERAS, QUE DIOS LO TENGA EN PAZ...ESTO CAMBIO PARA SAMUEL VALVERDE....

VALVERDE DESPRECIO A MUCHOS JOVENES MINISTROS DE SU TIEMPO, Y LES DIO 'BOLA NEGRA' PARA QUE SE FUERAN DE LA ASAMBLEA...
Y SE JUNTO CON PACHECO, SU PRIMO, QUE TAMBIEN TIENE UNA "MALA LARGA" HISTORIA..Y CON AGUILAR, CON LA AYUDA DE LA ESPOSA DE AGUILAR Y LA ESPOSA DE VALVERDE , VALVERDE Y AGUILAR SE "JUNTARON COMO " HERODES Y PILATO."

NO SON AMIGOS...SON ENEMIGOS..COMPITIENDO UNO CON EL OTRO.....

EN CONCLUSION...

ESTOS ESTAN JUGANDO JUEJOS CON TODO EL CUERPO MINISTERIAL...
TIENEN LA MENTALIDAD DE NINOS, NINOS INFANTILES!!!

LA ASAMBLEA NO ES DE ELLOS, Y NUNCA SERA.....NO LES COSTO NADA A ELLOS..


PERO USTEDES LES ESTAN HACIENDO CREER QUE ES DE "ELLOS""""""

"PORQUE????? SI USTDES SON LOS QUE TRABAJAN....pORQUE?????

ELLOS NO SON DUENOS.....Y NUNCA SERAN, EN EL NOMBRE DE JESUCRISTO....

POR ESO SE LLAMA...ASAMBLEA APOSTOLICA DE LA FE EN CRISTO JESUS....PORQUE ES "UNA" ASAMBLEA, EN DE CRISTO JESUS....


NUNCA DE ELLOS "HONORABLES......"
NUNCA.....

PARA DE SUFRIR....NO LES DEN MAS DINERO!!!!!

EN EL NOMBRE DE JESUS!!!!!

VALVERDE NUNCA SE PRESENTA A UN SERVICIO FUNEBRE DE NINGUNA PERSONA
...TAL VEZ PORQUE TENDRA 'MIEDO", O POR SU AROGANSA.

PERO AHORA QUE SE SUEGRO MURIO, VALVERDE HA CONSEGUIDO UN LUGAR DE CAPICIDAD DE "TRES MIL" O CUATRO MIL PERSONAS.....

PORQUE EL DICE QUE EL Y ELLA SE LO MERECEN.....!!!!!!

Y ESPERAN A TODA LA ASAMBLEA.QUE VALLA....
PORQUE NO????

VALLA Y COMPLACELO....Y DIGALE, COMO , "LA MAFIA", QUE "TODO ESTA", BIEN Y USTED APRUEBA TODO LO MALO QUE EL Y LOS DEMAS ESTAN HACIENDO, CONTRA LA OBRA DE DIOS.


NINOS JUGANDO UN JUEGO!!!!

Y USTEDES ESTAN DE ACUERDO!!!!!!

QUE DIOS TENGA MISERICORDIA DE NOSOTROS....Y NOS HAGA LIBRES DE ESTA ESCLAVITUD.....DE INFANTILES.....

APODERADOS.....Y MALOS...

QUE EL SENOR LOS REPRENDA, Y LOS HUMILLE "HASTA EL POLVO!!!!

SIGA ORANDO......

"TODO LO PUEDO EN CRISTO QUE LOS FORTALESE!!!!

SolidRock said...

Factso...

There is no doubt that these three young men, Romo, Montenegro, and Aguilar, are great young men of God and are doing great works for the Lord.

Speaking against them is, speaking against them. That is forgivable. Speaking against the Holy Spirit, that is blasphemy, and that, is not forgivable!!

Matt. 12:31 "Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men.
Matt. 12:32 Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come."

But why do you hang on to these three so badly??

If you had as much passion for The Lord, then perhaps you would receive more respect. All you seem to be doing is discrediting these three by hanging on to their coattails.

Enough already!!!

Then you keep reminding us about the "new generation of apostolic prophets" evangelizing to now "billions"??? Wow, i now know who you are. You're the "Burger Generation", and you are Ronald Mcdonald!!! LOL LOL

called2proclaim said...

ALERT..ALERT..

Should A Pastor Rule Over You?


Authoritarianism in the church is one of the most serious problems that Christian churches face today. Authoritarian regimes and political machines within Christian churches are not only totally unbiblical, but they empower men to take a church anywhere they wish, bypassing the normal checks and balances found in the Bible. A church that has given control to a single man (often called a Senior Pastor) or to a small group of men (often called a board of elders) is helplessly tossed about in very dangerous waves.

Suddenly churches are turned on a dime according to the whims and agendas of men. If a dictatorial pastor wakes up on the wrong side of the bed and decides to take the whole church off a cliff doctrinally, most congregations just blindly follow, thinking they are helpless to do anything about it, if they even notice or care at all. Christians have been bombarded with the lie that certain men are appointed by God to rule and reign over His people. No, the Bible forbids such things and gives us the solution.


The popular yet monumental misunderstanding of authority in the church is probably the biggest problem driving the false church system. The main problem is with the people that the Bible calls "Nicolaitans", those who Christians allow to conquer and suppress them. (From the Greek, the word "nico" means "suppression or conquering of" and "laos" is where we get the word laity which means people). In Revelation 2:6 and 2:15, Jesus said that He hates the practices and teachings of the Nicolaitans.

Not surprisingly, most Nicolaitans refuse to acknowledge and admit that they are Nicolaitans. They make the false claim that no one can really know what a Nicolaitan is or is not. Most just quote a popular fairytale that the word means a follower of the mythical heretic Niclaus. Not so. The truth is we know quite clearly exactly what the word means and exactly who these people are. Plus, it doesn't make any sense that Jesus would mention something that He hates and then never let us know what exactly that He was talking about.

Today there is no shortage of those who want a counterfeit Saul to be king over them and there is no shortage of Nicolaitans who want to be that king in the place of Christ. (By the way, the definition of antichrist is one who opposes Christ and/or stands in His place). At least God told Samuel to appoint Saul as king. Even though God was displeased with the fact that Israel wanted a man as king instead of Him, he still authorized Saul’s appointment. Today’s multitude of counterfeit “Sauls” have no such authorization from God. They are self-appointed and people powered. Here’s why we know that they are counterfeit leaders (they may be real Christians but they are false pastors):

All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to Jesus (Matt 28:18).
Jesus alone is the Head of the church (John 5:26-27, Eph 1:22-23, Col 1:18).
God does not permit Christians to have controlling authority over other Christians in the church (see Matt 20:25-28, Mark 10:42-45, Luke 22:24-27, 1Pet 5:3, Matt 23:8-12, etc.).
We do not have multiple special high priests over us. There is only One High Priest, Jesus Christ (see Hebrews 3:1, 4:14).
We have One Master Christ and we are all brothers (see Matt 23: 8-12).
You cannot obey two masters; you will love the one and hate the other (Matt 6:24, Luke 6:13). You simply cannot obey Jesus as master and a pastor as master at the same time.
There is a big difference between genuine behind-the-scenes loving elders who stand firmly for sound doctrine and admonish the Body of Christ to obey the Bible compared to a Nicolaitan one-man show who teaches his own agenda and draws men away to himself through manmade teachings and traditions. While the Bible makes it clear that we are supposed to submit to governmental authorities such as to the police and obey the laws of our land (pay taxes, obey traffic laws, live peacealby, etc.), we are also commanded to not set up authoritarian systems or regimes within Christian churches.

For there to be any hope for any church to navigate through the ever worsening apostasy that is upon us, now more than ever, Jesus alone must be recognized as the One solely in charge and His Word the Bible must reign supreme. That is how it was always supposed to be, at all points in church history, but that is not how it has been, and that is certainly not how it is today.

More on this subject can be found in the Articles section.

This article was also recently titled "The Authoritarian Disaster". A portion of this article is an updated excerpt of my article "When A Church Becomes A Business".

for more information..
www.truthguard.com

Anonymous said...

Called 2 proclaim,

Allright already with your cut and paste ministry.

we get it you like home churches.

Good for you now please stop clogging the blog with multiple postings of the same article.

convention said...

question of the new year.
guess who will be the next pastor ot El centro Church. you guessed right. Bishops sanchez brother, Steve who is already pastoring but how convinient take over a better church. none of the other minister of the valley ever get a chance. wonder why. dissapointing to say the least.

convention said...

nobody is suppose to know this of course til the day of the change. always shady stuff, like when they put him in brawley or when they changed the pastor from calexico. always somebody they know. dissapointing. they tell you to go to bible college cause one day you will become prepared to pastor a church, and when these ministers pay money and sacrifice, they just lie to you, none of them get the opportuniti. dissapointing. they just want students to make more money. more students= more money.
prepare yourself but your changes to become a pastor in the valley where you spend your life and hard work, are very slim (unless your last name is_________ you fill in the blank.

Dissapointing, sad, opportunistic, shady, unfair,

Ram Shackle said...

Factso,
Where are all the elite christians that the tri-unified prophets escorted to the Lord for salvation? I think that you are a follower of men and not of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. The TU Prophets are mediocre leaders and alot still has to be determined about their effectiveness.

Unknown said...

to Convention:
its Feb.6 friday night service when they'll make it official.right now its supposed to be a BIG secret as to who is to become the new pastor.
the local minister in charge for the past six months has been in this congregation for 20+ years doing an excellent job but since he does not have a last name, guess what???

called2proclaim said...
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lito said...

querido hermano (a) TLC.
hechos 2;38 es un pasaje que tiene su analizis profundo historico que se ha, y se sigue analizando por peritos eruditos teologos de las SAGRADAS ESCRITURAS. El pasaje tiene un trasfondo teologico digno de analizar. habla de bautizmo, habla de espiritu santo, ha de el nombre de JESUCRISTO. Gracias con anticipacion por confiar en nuestro primer SANTO PADRE (papa) ESPIRITUAL SAN PEDRO, como lo ha mencionado anteriormente. Hechos 2:38 para ustedes en "AA" es la formula unica para la salvacion y punto. Si alguien se bautiza en el nombre del padre del hijo y del espiritu santo, para usds esta persona esta perdida. El gran misterio de la fe cristiana es el de que DIOS se manifesto al mundo como DIOS, HIJO , ESPIRITU SANTO, los cuales son UNO. TRES manifestaciones pero es UN SOLO DIOS. las sagrada escrituras habla de bautizmos en los cuales los apostoles y dicipulos de jesus ejercieron, antes de ejercer govierno ecclesiastico teologico episcopal. En otras palabras no habia una estructura secular que fuera reconocida ante las autoridades donde les pudieran esplicar sus creencias. El echo de que SAN PEDRO haya hablado sus mensajes y haya surgido conversiones, no quiere decir que es la formula singular de bautizmo.
La iglesia primitiva, necesitaba un formalismo o estructura liturgica.
Desafortunadamente este blog no es suficiente para hablar mas al respecto del bautizmo simbolico del mundo cristiano.

Tocante al que yo sea un juez, no lo soy. simplemente digo que no se deven de asombrar tocante a r. maffey, pues en todas las organizasiones suceden asuntos semejantes. No deve de ser obstaculo para senalar en absoluto a nadie en particular. Nuestros Sacerdotes si han sufrido bastante tocante este aspecto y se lamenta mucho. Creo que si se deve seguir resando y orando e intercediendo por ellos, pues el mismo APOSTOL PABLO lo menciona de orar por vuestros pastores.

Creo que si se necesita estudiar y conocer mas hacerca de los principios CRISTIANOS.

WatchOut! said...

Except for "Let me tell you what's next" can everyone else please make your statements in fifty words or less. Any long statement that I see I just skip over. Try to condense your statements. Some people write on and on and on but basically say nothing. Please don't be offended, just a small request.

east los said...

I 2ND THAT

Alembic E said...

3 Times we agree.

Redeemedintheblood said...

This message is for my brother "I'll tell you whats Next" if it is to long feel free to pass it by.

To I’ll Tell You What Next”

In your post on Jan 15th you said to all of us “Hermanos ustedes que dan el voto que no "vale" nada durante las elecciones...Pídale al Señor Jesús que le de a usted VALENTIA, PARA SOPORTAR AL DIABLO”

My question to you is are you a man of “valentia”

You question the “honor” and “integrity” of the pastors and the GB of the AA

Why can’t you answer my questions from my last few post to you. Are you lacking in “valentia” or is it because you can’t back up your own words.

You also said “NO ESTAN HACIENDO NADA PARA SACAR A ESTOS HOMBRES...."EGOCENTRICOS, QUE SOLO PIENSAN A SI MISMOS"

Please tell all of us on this blogg, WHAT ARE YOU DOING REGARDING THIS POINT?

You also said “PONIENDO DE NUEVO ...A LAS MISMAS 'DORCAS DE ANOS Y ANOS.. GORGINA, Y SANTA DESPUES DE MAS DE 20 EDADES”

Why do you keep attacking these hermanas? Have they done something to you?

And finaly you said “ESTOS ESTAN JUGANDO JUEJOS CON TODO EL CUERPO MINISTERIAL...TIENEN LA MENTALIDAD DE NINOS, NINOS INFANTILES!!!”

Are you sure that it is not you who are the one who has the mentality of an infant?
All you do my brother is spread “VENOM and BITTERNES, with your words, I think it is you who needs to repent

Again my brother “Thought for the Day / I’ll Tell you what’s next” be a man of integrity and of valor, please answer my questions.

YOUR WORDS MEAN NOTHING unless you can defend your beliefs you write, you will not be able to make any difference in this revolution until you do.

Gob Bless!

cbg said...

Hey Redeemedintheblood it seem that you just got it in for "I'll tell you whats Next" We get it, YOU DON'T LIKE HIM. YOU WANT TO DISCREDIT HIM. YOU ARE AGAINST HIM. WE GET IT NOW MOVE ON!!!!!

cbg said...

Called2proclaim said, LERT..ALERT..
we get you too. You don't like organized religion, you don't like pastors we get it. You read www.truthguard.com all the time. WE GET IT!!! What you don't seem to get is that everybody is ignoring your long ramblings.

Look, it's obious some pastor or some church did you wrong. MOVE ON KID. And why not consider this. CHECK OUT THE WRITERS AND BACKGROUND OF www.truthguard.com. Some of its writter are known atheists and liberals. STOP ALREDY!

cbg said...

Querido hermano lito, lito, lito. Que tonterias religiosas hablas tu. Ya parale con tus mensadas. La mayoria de nosotros eramos catolicos y dejamos esa religion muerta por todas sus tonterias.

Lo unico que tienes que hacer es leer su propia historia, para descubrir todas sus barbaridades (inquisiciones) que han cometido, y siguen cometiendo a traves del mundo.

Tu filosofia secular tiene muchas palabras pero esta vacia!!!! YA PARALE COMPA, VE Y HABLALES A TUS SACERDOTES Y AL INFALIBLE QUE POR SUPUESTO NO TIENE ERROR EN EL VERDAD? Tas loco. YA PARALE SONSO!

cbg said...

Any bosy else? O yea Factsonly1. In the words of that old heaten old cbg "What a dumb ass!" You are beyond comprehension. TRIUNIFIED what. Que loco.

Listen I personally know montenegro and romo. And just yesterday I told them about this factsonly1 on the blogs, and everything you say. You know what their response was. "sOUNDS LIKE ANOTHER WACKO FROM WACO!"

Plleeeeaaasssee! By the mercies of all mighty God. Don't try to help our cause. You're just giving these AA ministers a bad rap. Can you imagine what souls would really think if all the stupidity you write was true!

STOP already you sound worse that lito and he doesn't even know what the Bible really says! ENOUGH ALREADY!

ps. Bloggers, just for your info. NO ONE IN MONTENEGRO'S CIRCLE AND ROMO'S CIRCLE OF FRIENDS KNOW WHO THIS BASKET CASE (FACTSONLY1) IS. We formally and respectfully disassociate any ties to this sycho. Than you and GBY!

lito said...

solo, no no seais erejes. no hablesis como si fueses un ignorante.

la historia no se puede cambiar si para pendejadas y estupideses de movimientos religiosos vamos, SOLO salte de donde estas crellendo. Es facil decir que el catolicismo es ignorancia. recuerda que es la unica iglesia que representa en el mundo a JESUCRISTO CRUCIFICADO Y QUE PERDONA PECADOS. Y SI SE TRATA DE MORIR POR CRISTO LA IGLESIA DE CRISTO LO HARA. ACASO A ESO LE LLAMAS IGNORANCIA Y TONTERIAS? TODOS LOS MOVIMIENTOS PROTESTANTES CRISTIANOS DE JESUCRISTO NECESITAN RECONOCER LA HISTORIA. PARA PODER SOBREVIVIR EN ESTE MUNDO FANGO, SE NECESITA HABLAR COMO EL APOSTOL PABLO LO DECEA ANTES LOS GOVERNANTES. EL ERUDITO PABLO POR POCO PERSUADIA A LOS GOVERNANTES TOCANTE A JESUCRISTO. PABLO NO ERA UN PENTECOSTES "EMOCIONALISTA" (HOLY GOST) COMO UDS. LO PRECENTAN.
SOLO,,, SE NECESITA MUCHO ESTUDIO Y DICIPLINA PARA ENTENDER POR MEDIO DE LA GRACIA DE DIOS, LA GRACIA DE JESUCRISTO.

POR LO QUE VEO, ESTAIS "SOLOS" DE CONOCIMIENTO DE JESUCRISTO. TE ASEGURO QUE USTED PERSONALMENTE NI ORAS!!!!???.. DIOS OS BENDIGA.

Anonymous said...

Lito,

Por que estas en este sitio ?

Somos Apostolicos.

No vas a logra cambiar a nadie.

Si a ti te falta el entendimiento de tal manera que has regresado a la iglesia catolica, me queda muy claro que no entiendes y nunca entenderas a la dotrina apostolica.

Mejor pasa el tiempo en algo benefico para tu vida.

Y deja de gastar el tiempo aqui.

Por que te lo repito de nuevo, Jamas vas a lograr cambiarnos para convertirnos en miembros de la gran ramera la iglesia catolica.

-----------------------------------


Called 2 proclaim,

I am going to follow my brothers lead and do the same.

Any post that is ten paragraphs long like yours I am going to just skip.

Because you are just posting other peoples thoughts anyways and you have no original thoughts of your own.

Either that or you do not know how to express yourself well.


The same goes for you we are not going to dissolve our churches and sell the buildings to go have home churches.....sorry

nevaeh said...

Anyone know the status of R. Maffey??? He was At Sis Rosies wake services, that was shocking to see.

cbg said...

Mi estimado lito,
Con todo respeto YO te voy a responder sin usar grocerias y profanidades, porque un hombre que deveras ora se refrena de hablar de tal manera.

Lito, lito, lito. Podriamos usar MUCHAS escrituras que realmente contradicen las dogmas y doctrinas catolicas en que tu ciegamente crees. Sin embargo SOLO te voy hacer esta pregunta. Dime que dices tu de esta Escritura,

"Acontecio que cuando termino Jesus estas parabolas, se fue de alli. Y venido a su tierra, les ensenaba en la sinagoga de ellos, de tal manera que se maravillaban, y decian: De donde tiene este esta sabiduria y estos milagros? No es este el hijo del carpintero? No se llama su madre Maria, Y SUS HERMANOS, JACOBO, JOSE, SIMON Y JUDAS? No estan TODAS SUS HERMANAS CON NOSOTROS? De donde pues tiene este todas estas cosas?" Mateo 13:53-56.

Dios the bendiga!

Active_Neutrality said...

Praise the Lord for Bishop Joe Mendoza standing up for the David Hernandez family at the service for Sis Rosie. That was classy and bold of him and it demonstrated a genuine brotherly love.

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Active Neutrality

Exactly how? Can you go into detail for the rest of us? Sounds like a very good thing. Its very nice to hear when good things happen specially in these trying times.

nevaeh said...

Oh yeah!!!! That was bold but it did need to be said. Regardless of Issacs situation, she deserved to be honored in the Church her and her and Bro David built. after so many years she was kicked out of her home... her church. So sad!

WatchOut! said...

Aw darn! Now it sounds like Bishop Mendoza might get on the gb's black list.

Factsonly1 said...

I can see why Prophet Romo and Prophet Montenegro would deny knowing me in public.

The purpose of the Tri-Unified Prophets is to evangelize the world and bring billions to Christ.

Did you ask them if they disagreed with that? I bet you didn't because to deny that would be to deny Christ and that my friend is blastphemy.

Besides, the Prophets don't know their Disciple by the name of Factsonly1. I am one of the apostles, for we are all the new generation of apostolic prophets, disciple and apostles that are leading the church through the last and final revival.

They know me very well. You just asked the wrong name.

My advice to you is to do win some souls over to the lord today. Don't talk about me, but talk about Christ.

Instead of gossiping about my blogname, try gospeling to a soul.

See, with this, you will turn from the evil ways of the old timer apostolics who only destroy the church. The ways of the new generation of apostolic prophets is to grow the church by evangelising it to the billions.

Imagin with me for a minute where you walk into a convention filled with over 2,000,000,000,000 people! We can do this but by steady work of spreading the gospel by all means ncessessrily.

Go with the Lord my brothers! Be of good cheer! Gossip this day not of me, but gospel of the lord!

Amen!

WatchOut! said...

So the Sister lost her home and church after she lost here husband?! Wow, if in fact this is true WHAT MORE IS IT GOING TO TAKE BEFORE THESE "GALLOS" ARE TAKEN DOWN? Sounds to me like the Sister died of heartbreak, brought on by the gb's actions.

WatchOut! said...

Get the heck out of here Factso, we're talking about important stuff.

SolidRock said...

Factso...

Your prophets have blasphemed against you, they deny knowing you, now they are doomed!!!!!!!
Ha Ha Ha Ha!!!!
You better find some new idols.
How about....
Mickey Mouse
Barney(I love you)
Goofy
Superman!!!!

cbg said...

Let me get this straight! Factsonly1 said, "The purpose of the Tri-Unified Prophets is to evangelize the world and bring billions to Christ...to deny that would be to deny Christ and that my friend is blastphemy."

Whaaaaaaaatttttt? To deny the tri-unified prophets is to deny Christ! Am I reading this right? Or do you mean to deny evangelizing the world is to deny Christ?

Mr NOfactsonly, anybody can and should evangelize the world. You don't need a triunified force of prophets to do that. As far as all the claims you make about montenegro and romo doing what you say they do - LIES ALL LIES!

I personally work with them in the National AA, and their plans and goals include NOTHING of what you talk about, NOTHING! And their comment to me was NOT about knowing who factsonly1 is or not. But their comment is NOT knowing and associating with someone (whoever you are) who talks and bloggs the NONESENSE you Bblog!

Mr. NOfactsonly1, they really, really, do think you are a WACKO from WACCO!

Active_Neutrality said...

Caminando_voy

Toward the end of the service for Sis Rosie, Bishop Mendoza is passed the pulpit and he proceeds to express that if he passed away, his church does not have the option but to take care of his wife. Then he expresses the same regarding Sis Rosie and how there was no reason that they should be there in Santan Ana instead of FLC. Basically expressing that the congregation and furthermore the GB should have taken care of her instead of doing what they did.

Factsonly1 said...

Now I know you are lying about Prophet Romo and Prohet Montenegro.

They, as part of the Tri-Unified force of apostolic prophets, are united in the purpose of bringing souls to Christ. By the tens, hundreds, thousands, hundreds of thousands, millions, billions.

Evangelize the world means evangelizing to billions upon billions of souls. Thats the purpose of the church.

To deny evangelism is to deny Christ. I personally know that they would not do this.

Its the new generation of apostolic prophets that are plowing the fields of our fathers for a ripe and ready harvest for the lord!

Amen!

WatchOut! said...

factso

I MEAN IT - GET THE FLOCK OUT OF HERE!

WatchOut! said...

Active Neutrality

Wow and double wow! So that's why the Sister's services were held at old Aguilar's church. The gb tried to wipe their ____'s, when in reality they probably hurried her into an early grave. Imagine, kicking not only out of the church but also her home. There are no words bad enough to describe this gb dis-administration.

Factsonly1 said...

I'll be sure to have the Tri-Unified Prophets say a special prayer for this blog and its bloggers who arbor hatred in their hearts towards the church.

Get with the Trinity or get left behind.

Amen!

johndoe said...

Big Ups to Bishop Mendoza. Who idea to have at ct

WatchOut! said...

ditto

nevaeh said...

No never said kicked her out of her HOME.... The church was her home away from home. Her and Pastor spent most of their life there. Everything was just wrong, it just showed no love what soever. Yea Mendoza said he made it very clear to his congregation that after he passes that they are to take care of his wife not do what was done to Sis rosie. You didnt see the bishops clapping at that moment. Alot of FLCers looked quite shocked, as Mendoza spoke of the Hernandez getting BOOTED OUT LIKE ANIMALS AND BEAST!It was pretty heavy.

nevaeh said...

That is where Pete attends with his family.

johndoe said...

Was it Bro. Pete call to have it there

nevaeh said...

Not for sure if it was singly his call....

Alembic E said...

factsonly1
Tri-Unified Prophets unite!!!
Go Tri-UNI-Pro!!
Go Thunder Cats!! Go!! Ho!
Psalm 118:8
“It is better to trust in the lord than to put confidence
In man.”

p.s. That's free of charge.
Don't start cussing.

east los said...

TO NEVAEH... MY BBF IN CALIF. SAID THAT RICHARD MAFFEY AND HIS FAMILY ARE NOW GOING TO BISHOP A. AUGILAR CHURCH IN SANTA ANA .. HE IS NOW A NEW MEMBER AT CT. CT.IS HIS NEW HOME CHURCH..HE ALSO HAS A SISTER WHO IS A MEMBER AT CT.

PS. YES IT WAS PETE CALL TO HAVE IT A CT. PETER IS A MEMBER AT CT. AND THERE ARE NOT TO MANY AA CHURCH THAT IN CALIF. THAT COULD HOLD 1 TO 2 HUNDRED PEOPLE..

omg said...

I attended Sis. Rosie's wake service. Bro. Mendoza spoke the truth. Bro. and Sis. Hernandez laboured for the Lord. It was thru them the church was purchased. It belonged to its members. But now it solely belongs to the AA. Totally in their control.

Pastor's wives make sure you have a good life insurance policy on your husband. If your husband/pastor dies you might find yourself out. I dont know alot about bro. Issac. But Sis. Rosie deserved to be taken care of and more respect than that. But she is not down and out because of the AA. She was blessed inspite of the current events at the end of her life.

Hernandez family your mother and father were awesome workers for the Lord. God Bless You all and comfort you. They live on in you and your lifes are evident of their love for the Lord. Keep serving in the example they gave to you and to all who came to salvation thru their ministry. I was blessed to know them.

east los said...

I WOULD HAVE LOVE TO BE AT SIS.ROSIE SERVICE...MY BF SAID THE BEST PART WAS WHEN ISAAC WAS SINGING FAITHFUL AND WHEN BISHOP MENDOZA TOLD THE AA BOARD AND THOSE WHO DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON IN F.L.C. LIKE A TRUE MAN OF GOD...

lito said...

sr o sra. (solo,TLC,ENRIQUE0 si vosotros erais catolicos apostolicos romanos por que os habeis cambiado hacia una erejia? explicadme porque razon os habeis cambiado a tal erejia, explicadmelo. todos ustedes se nombran apostolicos pero ignoran sus principios doctrinales. si ustedes erais catolicos y ahora no lo son es porque nunca lograron analizarce haci mismo.
Todo individuo que tiene uso de razon o sus 5 centidos apela y tiene la responsabilidad hacia una coneccion con DIOS. La iglesia en si ensena y predica el leer las sagradas escrituras pero como ya todos sabemos pocos filigreses lo hacen. Desconosco su "background" de usted, pero como todos los catolicos vienen de familias humildes y bajos recursos e ignoran los fundamentos catolicos porque son personas que no investigan su FE cristiana y mucho menos les gusta leer.

La cita biblica que usd. relato es simplemente un suceso de jesus en su ministerio. LOS SACRAMENTOS Y DOCTRINAS CATOLICAS TIENEN SUS FUNDAMENTOS BIBLICOS.PERO NO SE PUEDEN EXPLICAR EN UN BLOG.(PERDON POR USAR SU BLOG) TELEVISION POR SATELITE EWTN TIENE MUCHA INFORMACION PARA EVENGELIZAR A PERSONAS, Y TAMBIEN PARA SEGUIR EDUCANDO FILIGRECES CATOLICOS QUE REALMENTE ESTAN INTERESADOS EN SU VIDA CRISTIANA.

CUANDO EL PUEBLO DE DIOS CARECE DE ENTENDIMIENTO LA CASA SE CAEE. DESAFORTUNADAMENTE EL DEVIL TIENE QUE CAEER POR FALTA DE ENTENDIMIENTO Y ESTRUCTURA EDUCATIVA. SOLAMENTE EL QUE ESTA FIRME EN LA ROCA QUE ES CRISTO QUEDARA DE PIE.

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WatchOut! said...

To: Let Me Tell You What's Next

Did you happen to attend Sister Rosie's funeral services? I'd like to hear your input. I wish someone had literally gotten up and slapped all those "bishops" (appointed or otherwise). They deserve a royal slapping!

cbg said...

Senor Lito, por favor responda a mi pregunta. NO LE SAQUE VUELTA! Otra vez dime que dices tu de esta Escritura,

"Acontecio que cuando termino Jesus estas parabolas, se fue de alli. Y venido a su tierra, les ensenaba en la sinagoga de ellos, de tal manera que se maravillaban, y decian: De donde tiene este esta sabiduria y estos milagros? No es este el hijo del carpintero? No se llama su madre Maria, Y SUS HERMANOS, JACOBO, JOSE, SIMON Y JUDAS? No estan TODAS SUS HERMANAS CON NOSOTROS? De donde pues tiene este todas estas cosas?" Mateo 13:53-56.

Espero tu respuesta. Dios the bendiga!

east los said...

THIS IS THE SONG THAT ISAAC AND THE CHOIR SANG TO THE AA BOARD..1/14/09

VERSE 1...
FAITHFUL,FAITHFUL,FAITHFUL IS OUR GOD X3
CHORUS...
I'M REAPING THE HARVEST GOD PROMISED ME,TAKE BACK WHAT THE DEVIL STOLE FROM ME AND I REJOICE TODAY FOR I SHALL RECOVER IT ALL
BACK TO VERSE 1
VERSE 2
HOLY,HOLY,HOLY IS OUR GOD X3
CHORUS...
VERSE 3
JESUS,JESUS JESUS IS OUR GOD X3
CHORUS...
VAMP X8
I'M REAPING THE HARVEST GOD PROMISED ME TAKE BACK WHAT THE DEVIL STOLE FROM ME
AND I REJOICE TODAY
ENDING
FOR I SHALL RECOVER IT ALL...

Remembering said...

These are exactly the characteristics of Satan (factsonly1) he doesn't seem to never know when he is not wanted. Thinks he is so smart but yet he is so STUPID!! What Satan needs to do is just GO TO HELL!!!
By the way this is biblical too!

Factsonly1 said...

For someone you want to go to hell, I will let you know that just today, I recieved 78 email verifications of people promising to accept the lord.

Thats 78 people I have rescued from hell. If I need to go to hell to get people out of there to bring them to the lord, I will reach the lost at all cost.

See, its the new generation of apostolic prophets that are putting aside petsy little issues and politics to reach souls.

All you old timers are too coght up in your politics of old and who gets what church and who gets what position.

Its the new generation of apostolic prophets that are going to all out to reach souls.

I should remind you to repent from you old sins.

I ask you to join in unity the Tri-Unified prophets of Prophet Romo, Prophet Aguilar, and Prophet Montenegro who are joining forces to reach the billions of people in Texas, Arizona and California. The Southwest will be woned for the lord and the apostolic doctrine will soon be the official doctrine of Arizona state government.

A day will come when bishops will be presiding over official government functions and apostolic ministers will lead schools in prayer.

Baptism will be required to get your deplomas.

Our day is coming church!

Amen!

cbg said...

Factsonly1, I'm going to tell you again! ON BEHALF OF BRO. A. ROMO AND S. MONTENEGRO, who I spoke to last night. STOP USING THEIR NAMES as this Triunified whatever. They are formally asking you to STOP misrepresenting them in such a negative, erroneous way.

If you continue they will find out who you are and publicly, or even legally stop you from using their names for your false propaganda.

THIS IS YOUR LAST WARNING! STOP USING THEIR NAMES. Romo and Montenegro will soon publicly claim NOT to know someone like you if you do not stop.

Bloggers! This Factsonly1 IS NOT ASSOCIATED WITH A. ROMO NOR S. MONTENEGRO IA ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM. this wacko from wacco DOES NOT speak for what they value and represent. PLEASE DO NOT ENGAGE THEM IN ANY OTHER CONVERSATION REGARDING ROMO AND MONTENEGRO. Thank you and God Bless You.

lehan said...

HAHA facts looks like your poor little game is getting stopped by the main people you mention.

Seems that you are not as connected as you pretend to be.

I knew it would only be a matter of time before these real men of God would get feed up with you lies and deciet.

You have been called out. WHat is your next move.

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SolidRock said...

Factso just keeps coming back for more because he loves to get spooned like in his video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4hpbOD5sCo

Factso, 78 emails, is that all?? Bruce almighty was receiving several hundred thousand a day. LOL

Are you really Benny Hinn??

"Billions" in the states of Az, Tx, and Ca??

Az population...6,200,000
Tx population...23,500,000
Ca population...36,500,000

Total US population...300,000,000

If you're going to be stupid, try not to be so STUPID!!!!!!!

So that you can leave Romo, Montenegro, and Aguilar to do the work of the Lord,
I have a new suggestion for your new trinity.
Superman...He can fly around the heavens for you.
Popeye, the sailor man, He can sail the oceans for you.
Barney, He can roam around the earth saying I love you!!!!

But no matter what, you can still be Goofy!!!

rsvp said...

lito, no solo en Hechos 2:38 hablo PEDRO sobre el bautismo en NOMBRE DE JESUS.. lea en Hechos 10:48 el mismo PEDRO les dijo a los PREMER GENTILES, Cornelio y su familia, LES ORDENO a bautisarse EN NOMBRE DEL SENOR JESUS.

SEA UNO JUDIO OH GENTILE, EL BAUTISMO DEBE SER EN NOMBRE DE JESUS CRISTO. asi lo dice la palabra. asi les dijo Jesus a sus Apostoles. por eso se llama el libro "HECHOS" DE LOS APOSTOLES.(TODOS ESTAN DE ACUERDO.)

JESUS dijo a sus Apostoles, el que te oye a ti, me oye a MI.
(desculpe mi espanol por escrito.) lea Juan 14:26 el Espirito Santo fue mandado EN NOMBRE DE JESUS. En Matteo dise, y llamaras su nombre Jesus, porque EL, UNO,Jesus,NO ELLOS, tres, titulos )salvara su pueblo de sus pecados. Hechos 4:12 NO HAY OTRO NOMBRE (JESUS) QUE SALVE. como dise ud. en este blog es deficil descutir sobre todo esto. gracias por su atencion,

Unknown said...

los mal
llamados clérigos de las iglesias o ministros ordenados. se sostiene
que el bautismo sólo debe ser practicado por los Pastores u Obispos, lo que se está
diciendo es que sólo ellos son los llamados a evangelizar, y eso es totalmente falso.
La idea de que el Pastor es el único que puede bautizar es peligrosa, porque le da
una autoridad exclusiva a éste la cual no se la ha otorgado jamás. Esto hace que el
creyente se sienta obligado a permanecer en una determinada iglesia porque cree
que debe ser fiel al pastor que lo bautizó.
La verdad es que todo cristiano está llamado a hacer discípulos, y no tan sólo los
apóstoles, pastores, o los mal llamados “clérigos”. Y si usted está llamado a hacer
discípulos, usted debe completar el mandato bautizando a los que creen en el
Señor. ¡Usted no debe quedarse a mitad del camino!
Hay personas que predican el evangelio y una vez que logran hacer discípulos,
éstos son transferidos al Pastor de la Iglesia para que los bautice. ¿Dónde está eso
en la Biblia, por favor?
La iglesia Católica sostiene que el bautismo sólo puede ser administrado por los
sacerdotes de la iglesia, y no por los llamados laicos. Esta es una falacia de marca
mayor. Esta distinción entre laicos y clero es ponzoñosa y falaz, ya que la Biblia no
hace esta clase de distingos. Todos aquellos que hacen discípulos pueden y deben
bautizar a sus discípulos, cumpliendo con el mandamiento del Señor
Felipe, evangelista y diácono
todos fueron esparcidos por las tierras de Judea y Samaria salvo los apóstoles”.
Así que la iglesia de Jerusalén fue esparcida a otras ciudades a raíz de la
persecución de Pablo (Hechos 8:1). ¿Y qué hicieron los creyentes esparcidos por
aquellas tierras? “Pero los que fueron esparcidos iban por todas partes anunciando
el evangelio” (Hechos 8:4). ¿Y quiénes bautizaban? Por lo pronto tenemos el
informe de uno llamado Felipe que bautizaba. Este Felipe no era el apóstol Felipe,
ya que Hechos 8:1 nos informa que los apóstoles no partieron con la iglesia
dispersada. Este Felipe era probablemente un diácono de la iglesia de Jerusalén, y
de él se dice lo siguiente: “Pero cuando creyeron a Felipe, que anunciaba el
evangelio del reino de Dios y el nombre de Jesucristo, se bautizaban hombres y
mujeres” (Hechos 8:12). Aquí vemos a Felipe predicando el evangelio del reino y el
nombre de Jesús, y los que creían fueron bautizados no te neia credencial no era un pastor o apostolo

LET ME TELL YOU WHAT'S NEXT! said...

"Lito" ,,,,,,Iam sure is either Payasso, from previous blogs., or Daniel Sanchez's brother who turned catholic.

Or he is or she is just "baiting" so we cannot "contentrate on the "issues"
Real destroying AA issues"!!!!!

"Love of Money, Greed and Fraud and Hate for the Brethren",

Another thing, that one of the three that got to preach at Samuel Valvederde,'s father in law, who has gone to another place, was Abel Aguilar...
Imagine!!!!. my sources said...

It pays to have Cecia the politician and Raquel, "the want to be know it all", in charge...

There were others that could have spoken, but it was very difficult for them to speak, if the pastors, were from the Contreras era, and from local churches, of the San Diego area,
May God rest his soul...


Many Pastors and members, EXPERIENCED very cruel THINGS, by the now extinct Bishop Contereas. May his soul rest in peace.

One of them was Brother Misael Zaragosa... Ex-Bishop Contreras, hated Pastor Zaragosa, and fooled Brother Zaragosa, when Brother Zaragosa was to get the Otay Church when Pastor Pedro Hermosillo died.

Pastor Zaragosa was later blessed by getting the National City Church. But Pastor Zaragosa suffered alot with Bishop Contereas..Remember Sammy????

Sam was very dissapointed because eventhough, all the "Honorables" were there, there were Pastors that stayed home, because they have had it...The majority were from Sam's and Pacheco,'s church,

and of course those from afar, that want their "traspasses" forgiven by the Pope Valverde...



They had better be there.....or else....they would have to change the title of their church property from their own name to the AA!!!!!

THAT TAKES ALOT OF DOING....ALOT OF "DOING".....
BUT THEY KEEP THE AA PROPERTY IN THEIR OWN NAME..THEY DO IT.AND NOTHING IS "DONE TO THEM" BY THE "HONORABLES".. WHY?????

SOME CAN AND OTHERS CANNOT???


Now,that this is over.. Sammy can focus on what he married....Poor man...
Now its the real test....

Same with his comrad...Aguilar!!!
same luck...thanks to D. Jauhall....who was the god father OF "THAT "ERA".and he was "big time".....BELIEVE ME.....
GOD HAVE MERCY...
NOW ITS SAMMY.....,the "ruler"

Good for Bishop Joe Mendoza, who had the "courage" to say the truth..when he spoke at Abel Aguilar's church...
He called the "Honorables" That they came in and took over the Church of Family LIfe, that had been started by Pastor Hernandez and sister Rosie.

That they took over the church like "animals", Bishop Mendoza, got a standing Ovation for about 10 minutes....

Pray for Bishop Mendoza.. the "Mafia" will sure "hit"...

See, bloggers, in order to speak up, you do not only have to be "bold" you have to be "angry".....

To stand up and defend the Apostolic Assembly, that does not belong to the "honorables"!!!!!

They call us "bitter" and "angry"...

Well wouldn't you be if someone comes into a house that belongs to you, and they say they "own" it?????

But to be honest with all of you...
YOU ARE NOT ANGRY ENOUGH!!!!!!

IF YOU WERE YOU WOULD NOT BE AFRAID OF THEY 'EXPLUSING" YOU!!!!!

BUT YOU "DO NOT LOVE ENOUGH"...THE APOSTOLIC ASSEMBLY....
YOU ALL GIVE UP TO EASILY....

THE "HONORABLES" ARE ONLY "MONEY CONSCIOUS"

THAT IS WHY THEY GO "ANTSEY"....

ITS THEIR LITTLE "SELF MADE KINGDOM" THEY HAVE CREATED.....
"fraud in elections" and will continue to do when the next elecctions come around.....
NO ONE TO STOP THEM...NOT EVEN YOU...

"So stop blogging" they say...."You make us very uncomfortable..."

"BECAUSE YOU SAY THE TRUTH", AS FAR AS THE "HONORABLES" ARE CONCERNED.... DOUBLE SALARIES, AND FRAUD IN ELECTION., AND EXPLUSING PASTORS AND MEMBERS...

AND "SHUNNING" LIKE THE "CULTS DO" TO THEIR MEMBERS..

"SHUNNING" AND SHUNNING AND SHUNNING"......

"GUILTY" IS MORE THE WORD....
BUT I HONESTLY DO NOT BELIEVE THEY HAVE ANY 'GUILT CONSCIOUS'''

THEY ARE BEYOND THAT SENSATIVITY....

ROMANS CHAPTER 1.READS....."GOD HAS TURNED THEM INTO A DEPRAVATION MIND."....

THE "HONORAABLES" ARE FINISHING THEMSELVES.
THEY HAVE NO "CONSCIOUS" WHAT SO EVER...
NOR LOVE OF GOD.....FOR THE BRETHREN...

Some one asked me "what did I have against Georgina and Santa.?"

What a dumb question!!!!

Its not about "me" my dear Brother...or about you, my dear Sister.!!!
Its about the Apostolic Assembly...

These two have no shame to be "named" year after year....for the "dorcas" auxiliary...

The "force" and challenges and "endless work" that the local Dorcas, and the District, and the Bishop, Pastors are "forced to do" , by the "Honorables"....
for money and more money...
The "Horables" send their delegates..."Georgina and Santa"...


I spoke to a Lady who has now left the AA., and she said, she neglected her hushand, and children, for over working to help raise funds to built a church....

But nothing materialized,in building a church, because all the monies were sent to the District, and the District to the "Honorables"., and nothing "remained" for the local church...

Same thing that goes on all through the AA churches....

Local, District = "honorables",


That is why alot of us "resent" these women, that know the "truth" and they "sell their souls" to the "honorables"...
To please them with more and more and more monies..

This is why in other denaminations, the local churches "trive" and we see great building...and beautiful Cathedrals, because the monies stay locally....All the donations, and the fund raising...

But with the AA, its 'BACKWARD, UPSIDE DOWN AND CONFUSED"

INSTEAD OF THE "BOARD SENDING MONIES TO "LOCAL OBRAS"., THE SMALL STRIVING CHURCHES, HAVE TO SEND THE "HONORABLES' MONEY...

SO THAT THEY CAN BUY BENZES TO THE "WIM" OF THE WIFEY"...

AFTER ALL, MONEY COMES IN AND COMES IN AND COMES IN....
AND GEORGINA AND SANTA MAKE "SURE" IT DOES, FROM THE "HARD WORKING DORCAS"

THAT IS WHAT I HAVE AGAINST THEM, MY DEAAAAR BROTHER. THAT THESE TWO WOMEN, "KNOW" VERY WELL THEY ARE BEING, "CONTROLLED" AND MUNIPULATED" AND THEY CONSENT TO THIS.....EXPLOITING OF THE "DORCAS"

"THE BIBLE STATES.."THAT A WOMAN WILL BE SAVED, BY HAVING CHILDREN AND REARING THEM IN THE WAY OF THE LORD".,
NOT BY BEING " EXPLOITED" BY GEORGINA AND SANTA FOR THE "HONORABLES".

WE ARE "SAVED BY GRACE, AND NOT BY WORKS".....

THE AA TEACHES "BACKWARDS" TO THE "HONORABLES BENEFIT"...


Don't you care....Are you one of them or related?

Then you know that since 1960's its a lonnnnnnnng time, for these women to exploit the "dorcas"....

May the Lord have mercy on us.

Good night...

Redeemedintheblood said...

To “I’ll tell you what next/ Thought for the Day”

In your post of Jan.18th it looks like you finally had the courage to answer one of my questions. I am truly surprised.
My brother, so have asked me to leave you alone, and you seem to think that I’m trying to “bait” you. Let me assure you that I have nothing personally against you,
I believe this blog was created to express our opinions and to also have a healthy debate of the issues.

Do I agree with everything? NO
Do I think things can be better? YES

But I honestly do not think your “ramblings” help the cause, your accusations and hatred and bitterness you speak does not help.
You write in your post “But to be honest with all of you...YOU ARE NOT ANGRY ENOUGH!!!!!!” and you say “BUT YOU "DO NOT LOVE ENOUGH"...THE APOSTOLIC ASSEMBLY....YOU ALL GIVE UP TO EASILY....”

I must ask then this question: What have you done for this Assembly?
What gives you the right to put all of us in the same boat? Are you saying by your words that you are doing more than us?

I asked you in my last post to you what you had against Sis. Georgina & Sis. Santa
You write that what you have against them is that they’ve been on the Dorcas board since the 60’s and you accuse them of being pawns for the GB

Your logic and your argument do not make sense. Are you saying that if the Dorcas board was composed by 4 other women you wouldn’t have an issue with them?

Would not whoever was on the board be pawns of the GB anyways? Would you then attack them as well?

Why don’t you attack the Varones or the Youth? Are not they doing the same job as the Dorcas?

You express my brother your distain for the GB and other Bishops and Pastors and you call them the “mafia” “criminals” and I don’t know how many other things. You even attack the very AA that you claim to love so much.

When you were blogging as “Thought for the Day” I told you that this current GB is only doing what has always been done. You write on this blog as if the removal of pastors and taking of churches is something new. You write as if the explosion of people who sue the AA is new. You know as I, that this has always happened in the past.

My brother, I would ask you to once again be a man of valor and integrity since you say we are lacking of these and answer my questions in this post and in my previous post to you.
I guess we will see what kind of person you are or are you just like the GB as you say 'they dont anwer to anybody"

God Bless!

Remembering said...

Something to think about!

Continue working very hard in building all these beautiful churches. You all deserve it! Enough of being in these little small and sometimes run down churches. Why is it that other denominations can have great buildings and not us? What is wrong in having a church we can be proud of? What's wrong in building a church that can accomodate 300 and up so the souls or members don't have to leave because there is not enough space to accomodate everyone? What's wrong in desiring all these things for the honor and glory of God?
I'll tell you what's wrong!! Everything you are working so hard and have worked for doesn't belong to the Lord it is not "God's Property" it is the "Sanchez, Valverde,Pacheco,Espinoza,Aguilar Prado,Maffey and Martin del Campo's Estate."
So just keep in mind everytime you think about remodeling or even building just who will benefit out of all your hard labor!!

Fast_not_diet said...

Maffey is NOT congregating at CT in Santa Ana. He has actually visited a church in LA area quite a bit with a Pastor friend of his. Any news on his case?

omg said...

Redeemedintheblood and anyone who will answer.

As you said and we all know. The AA has done so for a long time. Taking down pastors, money seems to be the force the moves them. Fixing the vote. Which was the last straw for me. It was only till then that I have come to question what is really going on.

We sat back and not questioned. I have issues going back for several years. In speaking with others we talk and they have issues with the AA. In the past I've dismissed what happend, thinking they must have reason. I wonder about money given for missionaries. I know this is 2nd hand but I was told that a family that was in the mission field did not receive any help when they were abroad. Why? How can we fing out? Money given for a certain cause is only to go to that cause. Otherwise it is fraud. That org. should be held accountable legally if so. Who has the right legally to see the books? Who can audit the AA hdqtrs? Is there public records of the books? How can they become public record? Is it just the hdqtrs that can view records? Is it Biships? Elders? Pastors? members?

Awhile back it was posted 4 million was missing funds. Maybe it just rumor, maybe it could be true. Who has the right to verify?

As I see it, members, pastors dont want to confront. Yes we should. But how? Is it that we just leave?

Really what I want to know, Is how we as members can verify financial records. Who sets up the income amount for board members? Is there a vote?(hahaha)on dollar amounts. Expense accounts? It is only now because of Nov. 2006 that many of us have come to know we need to question?

Ok, after all that, the main question is. Who has right to see financial records of the AA?

Finally, brothers and sisters we are not serving man. So keep your eyes on Jesus. Dont fall away. We all need to hold on inspite of everything.

omg said...

Just thought of it. I'm hearing there will be no more conventions, to much money. Now, how will the voting be done? Accountability, accountability.

SLJ said...

quote:
" how will the voting be done? Accountability, accountability."

Probably under the dgb you will only need two votes to get in, and only eight high ranking honorable men of God will be able to vote.


If no honorable high ranking men of God can be found to vote for you. You get to stay in for another 4 years. etc etc etc

Long live the king

WatchOut! said...
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WatchOut! said...

Yeah, the AA Financials used to be on the AA website for all to see but sometime last year after some people including myself starting scrutinizing them and making comments all of a sudden they were no longer available for us to view.

Bruthaman said...

You mean to tell me after 100 years of evangelizing, baptising thousands of people, collecting tithes, offerings, flor asul, and the best that the church can do is to have second, third, fourth generation of pk's running the churches?

Have any of these pk's had any serious education in theology from a recognized school?

After 100 years all the church can do is to place their spoiled off spring into pastorships?

I find it hard to imagine thats even remotely possible.

The apostolic church is nothing more than a joke in the last 10 years.

Its leaders do nothing more than take advantage of immigrants with no education.

They pretend to hold the keys to heaven and hell imploring people to give a little more each week so they can earn their way to heaven. Totally discrarding the cross.

Taking salvation, adding a required 10% of your income in order to live righteous.

A powerful mind control tactic that has nothing to do with God's word.

May God judge them on earth and give them a lower place in hell.

Unknown said...

Por favor, David Contreras funeral was nice. But the services were as if he were a member of his son in law's church. He was loved in san diego, maybe not by toda la gente pero by a lot.

Me dio azco que the program didn't include anyone from his church or any of the old district board or pastors.

Ese son in law casi highjacked toda la progama como era a su propio servicio.

LET ME TELL YOU WHAT'S NEXT! said...

To Redeemed-----
You are so right....If someone else would be "appointed" by the Honorables to be in the Dorcas, auxiliaries...It would be the same as with Georgie and Santa...
SO THESE TWO ARE WELL "TRAINED" SO WHY TRAIN OTHERS...THESE TWO DO AS THE HONORABLES TELL THEM....

Let me tell you its not about me, nor you, again I repeat..Its not about anyone else its about 'OUR APOSOSTOLIC ASSEMBLY....GOD'S CHURCH....ITS ABOUT THAT..

You are so right. if four would be named it would be the same...It sure is that is Why Sanchez, appointed Francisca and the other one that I do not know her name...

But to appoint some more new ones, in Georgie and Santa place would take alot of training....and the Honorables do not have time to "train again." 'THESE TWO WOMEN WOULD NEVER 'BETRAY THE HONORABLES.....
THESE TWO GET A SALARY AND A SALARY THAT "BIG" AND GET ALOT OF

GIFTS AND MONEY FROM THE POOR DORCAS, THAT SACRIFICE THEMSELVES TO BE RECOGNIZED....
YOU SHOULD SEE THE CHRISTMAS GIFTS AND MONIES THEY GET AND ALSO RAQUELITO...

Let me tell you a sad thing that happen years back with Santa, who came from somewhere in some town in Mexico.

Santa was "helper" or assistant to one of the Dorcas Presidentof the AA before Santa's rein...

Santa played it very well, catered to that past Presidenta, even carried her luggage and had the opportunity to travel abroad...
Now this past Dorcas' President is totally abondoned, now . She moved up North here in California, and not even greeted when Santa sees that Old timer past president who actually "humanised Santa".

Georgie has the same played politics.She came out of no where used to congreate in Compton back in the 60's and used that Pastor's wife to climb up the "ladder" and "stayed there" forever...thanks to the Honorables, that get her to get all their monies out of the poor Dorcas.

What is upsetting is that if they are such "christians" then why would they condemn anyone for wearing a wedding ring, and actually "exclude" any young Dorcas that truly has an education and would "help" the new Dorcas..

And if they had any fear of God and love for "Las obras" the churches that Pastors struggle so hard, and the Bishop that are also victimised and scared of being "ousted" by the Honorables.

Then why do these two women and even the other recently appointed ones, would subject themselves to being ordered by the Honorables to exploit the local churches Dorcas, the ssectors and the District.
WITH THE FLOR AZUL MASSIVE MONIES DRIVE AND "MANO A MANO PROJECTS"?????

Why???????
You answer that for us...I know the answer...Why because these two did not even go to 6th., grade and they are treated like "The royal Queen, bees, at the expense of the local Dorcas never actually working for their own local churches....BECAUSE THE LOCAL DORCAS HAVE TO SEND BIG MASSIVE MONIES TO THE DISTRICT, TO BE SENT TO THE HONORABLES...

THE HONORABLES HAS THE DISTRICTS SEND THE MONIES DIRECTLY TO MAFFEY,THE TRESURER...
THE TRESURER OF THE DORCAS NO LONGER RECEIVES ANY MONIES...
THE BISHOPS TOOK CARE OF GIVING THAT ORDER TO THE LOCAL PASTORS FROM THE HONORABLES MESSAGE BOARD..

Let me tell you another story that happened in one of the District at a Rural camping grounds...

Santa was the " knowledgeable GUEST speaker..." And on the first day,
Santa who was raised at the Kings' palace in Mexico...saw a "mouse", near her bed at the camp site.....

She started screaming at the top of her lungs and such was the noise she made that all the sisters came in to assist her from the "intruder".

Well there and right there Santa "demanded" that she should be taken to a Hotel that was near the area., because she was not used to mice!!!!!!

Well of course the Dorcas in charge of the camp meeting took her to the nice Hotel, that she demanded!!!!!

But what about the other Dorcas that had to endure the "country mice", because the camp site was actually in the open sites..????

The rest of the Dorcas, remained, but not Santa, who has been brought up in the elite of high society, and cannot endure any discomfort.

This my dear brother or sister is the pits.....

The same goes for Georgie...she is Pacheco' and Valverde's right hand lady.. She gives all the proceeds of her sad C.D.'s to them...She only keeps $2.00....

That my dear brother is being a "brown noser"...

These two know all the "tricks" to control and munipulate the first time immigrants of the Dorcas...
Because in reality...The Mexican American Dorcas,AND SAID TO SAY HAS "EXIXTED THE AA"
They are more "sabe" as the history of the AA and how it has evolved and how the munipulation has gone on and is now to the "limit" of exploitation.....

If these two feared the Lord and knew for real that the Lord is coming soon...They would definately not 'PLAY THESE GAMES'
WITH THE LOCAL DORCAS, DISTRICT DORCAS AND THE PASTORS AND BISHOPS..

BUT SINCE THE 'HONORABLES' ARE THESE TWO WOMEN'S BOSSES.
THE DORCAS, AND PASTORS AND BISHOPS BETTAAAAA., OBEY....

____________

TO OMG;;;
ANY ONE CAN AUDIT THE BOOKS OF THE AA...ANY MEMBERS...BUT WE DO NOT "STICK TOGETHER" WE ARE ALL SCARED OF THE HONORABLES...
THAT IS WHY NO ONE AUDITS THEM....

"EN LA UNION ESTA LA FUERZA'
BUT WE ARE MEXICANS AND CENTRAL AMERICANS...
BELIEVE ME IF WE HAD CUBANS, OR PUERTO RICAN, THEY WOULD HAVE ALREADY......"FLOWN THE HONORABLES' TO OUTER SPACE.......

BUT WE ARE TOO COWARDLY, AND WE WILL NEVER GO AGAINST THE "MASTERS"

WE KEEP ON GIVING HOPING....JUST HOPING THEY WILL GREET US AND RECOGNIZE US.....

BUT LET ME REMIND YOU ONE GREAT THING...WE HAVE THE LORD ON OUR SIDE AND WE HAVE "PRAYER" THAT "CHANGES THINGS" IN JESUS NAME THE HONORABLES WILL BE REMOVED BY THE LORD...IN HIS PRECIOUS NAME......
KEEP ON PRAYING...

"TO REMEMBERGING"
I HAVE ALWAYS APPRECIATED YOUR "TREMENDOUS INSIGHT"...YOU ARE MY FRIEND IAM SURE... YOU THINK "PREFOUNDED"

GOD BLESS YOU.....

OMG; AS FAR AS CONVENTIONS...
THAT IS A THING OF THE PAST FOR THE MEMBERS OF THE APOSTOLIC ASSEMBLY TO ATTEND...


THIS IS HOW THE "HONORABLES" PLAN TO DO IT...
THE CONVENTIONS, WILL """"only"""""
BE FOR PASTORS AND BISHOPS, CALLED "MINISTERIAL CONVENTIONS"


SAMMY THOUGHT ABOUT THIS...

THIS IS WHAT HE TOLD SANCHEZ...,WHO CAN NOT THINK FOR SANCHEZ VERY MUCH....


"LETS JUST HAVE "MINISTERIAL CONVENTIONS', ONCE A YEAR AND EVERY TWO YEARS AND EVERY FOUR YEARS, ONLY "MINISTERIAL" CONVENTIONS...
ANY WAY THE PASTORS ARE THE ONES THAT FALL FOR "FRAUD" ELECTIONS" ...

THEY WILL NOT DARE OPEN THEIR MOUTH, NOR OPPOSE...BECAUSE, SAM CONTINUED TO SAY....IF THEY DARE TO OPPOSE, WE WILL OUST THEM AS WE DID BALDE, AND DAN, AND ABEL AND ZUNIGA, AND MENDOZA, AND AVILA...."

SO THE MINISTERS THAT WILL ATTEND TO THE CONVENTIONS WILL BE "DEMANDED TO BRING IN $10,000.00 TO $20,000.00 PER CONVENTION...
OR MORE......
SAMMY CONTINUE TO SAY, WE WILL NOT NEED THE MEMBERS TO ATTEND, BECAUSE THE PASTORS WILL BRING TO THE MINISTERIAL CONVENTION THE "QUOTA" OF THE MONIES WE NEED FROM THEM, AND IF SOME PASTORS OR OTHER BISHOPS DO NOT ATTEND, SO WHAT
THE MONIES "QUOTA" WILL BE "DEMANDED" TO BE SENT TO LEOPARDO MAFFEY, THE TRESURER...


SAMMY CONTINUED TO TELL SANCHEZ AND PACHECO AND MAFFEY... "WE DO NOT NEED CONVENTIONS...WE WILL TELL THE PASTORS TO TELL THEIR CONGREGATIONS THAT BECAUSE OF THE ECONOMY AND THE TRAVEL EXPENSES FOR THEIR MEMBERS..., THE CONVENTIONS WILL ONLY BE "FOR THE MINISTERIAL GROUP."


SO SEE, MY DEAR BROTHER, OMG....
THIS IS WHAT GOES IN THEIR MINDS...

CALCULATING, CALCULATING, AND SCHEMING AND SCHEMING., HOW TO GET MORE MONEY , HOW TO GET MORE MONEY AND SPEND LESS IN CONVENTIONS......

BUT REMEMBER AND REMEMBER GOOD..
THIS COMING WEEKEND THRUSDAY, FRIDAY AND SATURDAY...WILL BE THE CONVENTION OF THE AWA APOSTOLIC WORLD ALLIANCE IN RIALTO...HERE IN CALIFORNIA..

THEY WILL HAVE ATTENDANCE FROM ALL OVER THE USA...

SO WE WILL SEE YOU THERE......

AND BELIEVE ME THIS CONVENTION WILL NOT BE "ONLY MINISTERIAL"..
IT WILL BE FOR EVERYONE...

MAY THE LORD HAVE MERCY ON US...

AND GOOD AFTERNOON...

Remembering said...

TO LET ME TELL YOU WHAT'S NEXT!
Yes, friend I am with you. I think we have kept quite for so long and NOW it's time to pull the sheeps cover of from those wolfs.
Now regarding those few that want answers from you. WHERE HAVE THEY BEEN? Either they been turning and looking the other way or they just don't get it. I call that DENIAL!

bewildered said...

All I keep hearing and reading regarding this matter and the AA and GB is that we are afraid of saying what needs to be said! We have criminals in the AA and they should not be allowed to continue! I have mentioned wrong doings to Past Pastors, Bishops and other higher ups and all I got was God will take care of him. I ask them where in the AA constitution it states that they are above the law both in the constitution and in the bible? They response is always the same God will take care of them and that we should not judge. How can we just sit and watch these men just continue. Do we have an obligation to God and speak up?

omg said...

Let me tell you whats next,

I am asking about the books. If I as a AA member for many years, wanted to see the financial records. Can I walk in to Hdqtrs and ask to see the books. What is my right as a member of the AA?

I'am wondering abour money raised for Flor Azul. I know it's alot. How is it being spent?

I am looking forward to attending the AWA Convocation. I pray that the people are heard and that it is not run in the same manner. We need leaders, but they must remember they are in service of its members. I feel this org. is in the right direction. But, I will never say there will never be any problems. Just a better way of dealing with them.

Remembering said...

Bewildered and OMG:
That's exactly what needs to be done. Those that are really sick and tired of being sick and tired need to attend this AWA and hear and see for yourself. Bewildered, you ask if anything can be done to take out these "criminals" as you stated. Unfortunately, NO! at least not while these pastors and Bishops continue being intimidated by these men and not willing to pay the price this corruption will continue. I ask why do people want to settle for bread crumbs while they can have the loaf of bread? The GB is having it and having everyone else's bread too! It is sad that these pastors and Bishops that tolerate this abuse do not have any dignity whatsoever.

What-Ever!! said...

Tommorrow is Jan 20th and yet no resolve on the appeal case against the Honorable Mesa Directiva or on Richard Maffey's case.

If anyone has any info on any of these cases please give it up.

GBU

Remembering said...

Good Morning:

I used to think that other than Satan there couldn't be anyone as evil as Hitler. Got some news for you, Sanchez just out did him at least Hitler protected his people (Germans) and Sanchez turned on his own people (the bretheren).

Factsonly1 said...

Our day is coming church!

I have a dream church! One day apostolic doctrine will be the majority doctrine of the country. One day, we will have one of our own being swarn in as president. One day, it will be an apostolic bishop presiding over the swearing in of the president of the united states.

One day, it will be an apostolic choir singing the national anthem.

One day, it will be an apostolic bishop presiding over congresss lead by prophet congressman Montenegro.

One day, it will be apostolic minister serving as clergy of the armed forces.

One day, we will be baptising souls east of the Colorado Rockies, and west of the Colorado Rockies.

One day, the Great Lakes will become the official apostolic baptistry for the midwest.

One day, the Colorado River will be used to baptise and wash sins away!

One day, people from all around the world will cross the Rio Grande to become baptised in apostolic doctrine in the waters of the apostolic Rio Grande.

One day, it will be apostolic missionaries being sent by the state department to end crisises in Israel.

Our day is coming church!

Please keep the Tri-Unified Prophets in your prayers!

Amen!

SLJ said...

LOL....LOL...LOL

Unknown said...

As you know in the economic times
we would all like to save some money. Especially churches where a good portion goes out to AA in the form of tithes, offerings and cuotas. It could be anywhere from $100.00 to $3,000 or more depending on the size of the church. What could the church do with that extra money? You are looking at up to $30,000.00 or more a year that the local church is without. In the AWA all monies given by the membership stays in the church for local projects. Now, thats something to think about.

Active_Neutrality said...

Can some post info of AWA event this weekend?

SolidRock said...

Factso...

I have a nightmare!! You keep blogging!! Ha Ha Ha

The colorado river is already being used to baptize souls, as it delivers water to many cities in colorado, utah, arizona, and california, and souls are already being baptized east, and west of the colorado rockies.

But wait, in your dream, your system of baptizing souls takes us back to the way "oldtimers" used to baptize. That's not too hip with you new generation apostolics, is it? Can you go back into your dream real quick and check with the tri-unified prophets and see if this is the dream you really want to have? LOL LOL

By the way, didn't see any of your prophets that are supposed to take over the government at DC today at the inauguration, what gives?

jose said...

7:00 - 10:00 PM Corporate Worship Youth Celebration - Cathedral of Praise

Friday January 23, 2009
9:00 AM - 12:30 PM Ministerial Meeting - Hilton San Bernardino
2:00 - 5:00 PM Ministerial Meeting - Hilton San Bernardino

9:00 AM Corporate Worship Youth Celebration - Cathedral of Praise
2:00 PM Corporate Worship Women Celebration - Cathedral of Praise
7:00 PM Corporate Worship Youth Celebration - Cathedral of Praise

Saturday January 24, 2009
10:00 AM - 2:00 PM Corporate Worship Youth Celebration - Cathedral of Praise

Hotel:
Hilton San Bernardino
285 East Hospitality Lane
San Bernardino, California 92408-3411
909/889-0133
$89.00 plus tax per room night (1-4 persons)
Reservations made under “Apostolic Youth Convocation”


Sanctuary:
Cathedral of Praise
1519 South Riverside Avenue
Rialto, California 92376
http://copim.org

Everyone welcome!

Program subject to change by Alliance Staff

east los said...

TO FACTONLY1...... PRAISE GOD IT WAS ONLY A DREAM......THEN YOU WOKE UP..

Factsonly1 said...

The AWA is only in it for the money. Just look at the schedule church! Its all about the corporations.

Corporate this and corporate that!

Prophet Romo, Prophet Aguilar and Prophet Legalslator Montenegro are about praising the most high God in excellence! Its about a dynamic mind transformation of the the spirit of the holy ghost!

Corporations are the reason this world is in a vast and mighty depression!

Corporations are instruments of death! Corporations take God out of the equation!

Join the Tri-Unified Prophets in a joint prayer session this friday night through sunday. Pray any time you like. But committ to praying for 3 hours per day. Be sure to pray facing towards the Washington DC where we need to move the great end time revival there because its the end times and we need to bring the apostolic oness tri-unity there.

Bow towards Washington Church! Our time is coming church!

Amen!

What-Ever!! said...

Today is Jan 20th and yet no resolve on the appeal case against the Honorable Mesa Directiva or on Richard Maffey's case.

If anyone has any info on any of these cases please give it up.

GBU

Unknown said...

RE: People of Calif. v. Maffey

On Jan. 23rd Mr. Maffey is due in court to enter a plea.

MijoTonio said...

A while back, I posted about how I was having
difficulties with what I feel are excessive fundraisers. since my wife and I paid tithes and gave offerings, I was not sure as to why we were having so many fundraisers (Selling food and Car washes).

One of the bloggers (Forgot who it was) suggested that My wife and I speak to the pastor. We did and without going into detail he gave us an explanation as to why we have fundraisers. Unfortunately, as members we are assigned to fundraising teams and we did not want to be part of fundraising, especially after giving offering and tithing. finally, we decided to move on, but we are thinking of going back to a non-denominational church.


My cousin who taught me about baptism suggested that I visit a United Pentecostal Church. Can anyone give me information about the United Pentecostal Church?.

Remembering said...

lewis: If you allow me to answer your question regarding "fundraisers."
I see you are trying to locate a UPC where you can congregate. I have associated a lot with the UPC. I know many of these well known preachers in their organization. I know for a fact that they do fundraisers too maybe not a tamale or mexican plate sale but one in particular is the peanut brittle sale, car washes and etc.. If you are trying to find a church that doesn't do fundraisers you might want to look into these mega churches that consist of professionals where you wouldn't have to worry about fundraisers anymore if it bothers you and your wife that much!

MijoTonio said...

Thank you Remembering! It does bother me that much because the fundraising is a weekly thing. I do not mind occassional fundraisers, but not every church service. I came out of a church that had 600 people and we did not have fundraisers. Do you know if larger UPC churches have constant fundraising?

MijoTonio said...

Thank you Remembering! It does bother me that much because the fundraising is a weekly thing. I do not mind occassional fundraisers, but not every church service. I came out of a church that had 600 people and we did not have fundraisers. Do you know if larger UPC churches have constant fundraising?

WatchOut! said...

I believe that tithes take care of the pastor's salary, utilities, church mortgages, insurance, etc. (depending on how many members). Fundraising is required for church growth, for example, a larger dining hall, music equipment, a new stove, etc. Even a new church! There are always needs for a growing church.

Why didn't you stay in your 600 member church that didn't do fundraisers? Some other problem, maybe?

factsonly1 said...

Lewis,
This blog is probably the worst place to get advice from. Especially advice on finding the right church. I think it's pretty obvious why.

But let me just tell you this. I think a more critical issue is finding a healthy church with healthy boundaries. I've been to dozens upon dozens of apostolic/upc churches and have not found ONE church with healthy boundaries. The pastors seem to have absolute power and are the ultimate authority in all things concerning church matters and a lot of the times personal matters.

I would suggest that you go on a quest to find a healthy church, with Biblically based doctrine that is NOT dogmatic on things the Bible says little or nothing about. A church that inspires you to move closer to God and challenges you to reach out and love others. I have yet to find an apostolic church that meets this criteria.

I hope you do find the right church, and there is nothing wrong with a non-denominational church. When you find the right church, you will find how liberating it feels.

nevaeh said...

I attend a Non Denominational church that is less than 400 members. We do not need to have fundraisers for the church. God supplies all of our needs. You do not need to be a MEGA church to avoid fundraisers.We do have food drives and different activitys to help the souls in the community. That is to show Gods love to the people looking in. That is what brings them to question about the church and eventually find God. That is where the growth comes cause they feel love. There is no need for fundraisers for the church itself. That is what the tithes and offerings are for. Somtimes there are (very rare)special building offerings that help with possibly the purchase of a new building or chairs for the building. On the other hand In a apostolic church because the tithes and off. arent sewn directly into that one specific church family/building,I can see why the church itself may feel a lil short. I dont know how much exactly but a large chuck of it goes to the AA first.

MijoTonio said...

Remembering, caminando_voy, diputs and Naveah


Thank you guys for your advice. I am not against offerings for church needs. At the beginning of the year, the pastor gave a financial report and the church had a surplus of money. According to the reports, the church is doing pretty good. In the past year, we had one food drive and at least 30 fundraises. Seems like we are focusing on the wrong things. By the way, the financial report did not include the fundraising money.

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Active_Neutrality said...

This particular article,
Isnt it about Richard Maffey? Moreso, isn't it about the impact that, if true, his actions with a young teenager from his church will have? Think about it, if he enters a guilty plea in just 2 days, what kind of ramifications will that have? A "successful" former National MOP President, who brought up another (Frank Balboa), who in turn, helped bring up (Anthony Romo and Steve Montenegro). A Pastor, who many thought was next in line a for a General Board position. Now many might be thinking (as evident by many posts here), "who cares? We know the GB is corrupt". Well, up until now, even if they are corrupt, they can still mask behind the innocent until proven guilty card. Unless one of them comes clean and confesses, that is the only event that will cause the stir that is needed. Even if the GB is sucking churches dry by deliberetely mishandling AA monies, they haven't been proven guilty. Not a single one of them. Not in their eyes at least.

However, if Maffey pleads guilty, we (Members, Ministers & Pastors) will have a bit of the leverage needed to call out the GB. Perhaps this is the reason that the GB has done very little publicly for Bro Maffey. So, we ought to be praying about this.

factsonly1 said...

Active_neutrality,

How will finding Maffey guilty give leverage to the people?

The bigger issue here is that his secular career is largely more threatened than his ministerial 'career'. Secular employers seem to have stricter standards than the so-called "apostolic assembly".

I can see him not ever being ever to find a job for the rest of his life. But a board member in the AA, I can see that.

From LA District said...

You can go under UPCI.ORG and there you can find a local UPC church by going under find church.

LocoValdez said...

anyone give us some updates with the New AWA... happenings.

Unknown said...

disputs

you need to read your bible, especially the doctrinal letters of the apostles. they preached and taught love but as you can see their a little bit of everything going on in the churches from immorality to fraud. i haven't seen a pentecostal church thats been attacked by satan continually preaching just love. wake up to reality. this is a spiritual battle we are fighting not a sentimental journey.

factsonly1 said...

Pedro,

Pardon my dyslexia, but I have no idea what you just said. Although it sounds like you're trying to make an interesting point, I could not make out what that point was. Please elaborate.

Thank you.

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Albert Lucero said...

ANNOUNCEMENT:
FYI - Family Life Center Apostolic Church has a new domain name: www.flcac.org

LET ME TELL YOU WHAT'S NEXT! said...

lewis----

When you talk about "fund raisers", and you see the "project" materialize, then its fine!
But if it goes years and


The UPC Churches are "worse" than the AA in as much that every church property is "personally owned" by the Local Pastor,and his heirs....

You work and work for all of them, and in turn its 'ALL THEIR'S, THE FAMILY OF THE PASTOR.

The AA WAS fine, as it was "first established, that the Corporation own the church properties...

NOW WE DO NOT HAVE "ANY IDEA IF ALL THE PROPERTIES HAVE BEEN "SOLD" AND THE "HONORABLES HAVE ALL THE MONIES."

WHO IS "CHECKING" WHO IS???????


YOU?, ME? WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO??????

NO ONE CARES'''''THEY JUST "LEAVE"....

THAT IS WHY SAMMY "MADE SURE" THAT THE ONES THAT COMPLAINED WERE "OUSTED"...

SEVERAL PASTORS TOLD ME THAT THE "MECHANICS BEHIND THE "HONORABLES mENTALITY IS "SAMMY"..

IMAGINE, THE INFINTIL MIND "RUNNING THE WORK OF THE LORD"...

WOW!!!!! THEIR FALL WILL BE LIKE "HUMPTY DUMPTY>"""""

But when this "Honorables" found out that we are "not united" and we will come in as a "LONE",WITH "ONE" ARROW"
THEY LAUGHED........

HYSTERICALLY!!!!!!

WE DO NOT HAVE TOTAL UNITY OF THE REST CONCERNED,


THEN THE HONORABLES CONTINUE TO "MAKE THEMSELVES RICHER" AND "RICHER".
"NO ONE TO STOP THEM"

AS A MEMBER OF THE AA, WE MOST DEFINITELY CAN GO INTO THE GENERAL HONORABLES OFFICES AND DEMAND TO SEE THE "BOOKS",

BUT WITH AN AUDITOR AND AN ATTORNEY AT YOUR SIDE.
AND FROM A LETTER SENT TO THE IRS...

The problem is that the "Honoraables", with the help of the "LOYALS", Geogina and Santa and Francisca, that hold "Flor azul and "Mano a Mano rallies", to have the"WORKING MOTHER BEES" take all the benefits of the "local churches" of the "Sectors" and of the "Districts" to the "EAGLES NESTS OF THE "HONORABLES"...

So the "Honorables" can "assure" their $10,000.00 PER MONTH,EVERY FOUR WEEKS SALARIES and their 'LOCAL CHURCHES SALARIES, of no less than $4,000.00 per month!!!!!!

AND STILL BE CONTINUE TO GIVE AND GIVE AND GIVE AND GIVE....NOT TO GOD BUT TO THE "MANDADERAS" AND TO THE HONORABLES....

MAYBE "THEY WILL THROW US A BONE....JUST MAYBE???????


No wonder Sammy can buy "his wifey" the famous Mercedes Benz.....


Like Caminando voy stated:
Before the financial statements used to be "posted",but no longer are they "declared".

I SAY since people like Caminando voy, Remembering, Enrique, Antonio, "OMG" and Henry, Scotty and others are on-to the "honorables" schemes.!!!!!!
THE HONORABLES CANNOT AFFORD TO "POST THE FRAUDULENT REPORTS."
THEY JUST DON'T JIBE!!!


But and but, and but, and but, the Pastors are still "afraid"..

Next conventions WILL BE ALL MINISTERIAL AND NEVER AGAIN FOR MEMBERS....
BUT THE MONIES FROM THE "FUND RAISERS" AND THE FLOR AND MANO A MANO WILL DEFINITELY WILL BE "TURNED IN"....

WILL ALL BE CONCENTRATED ON "ALL THE FUNDS "RAISED" FOR THE "FLOR AZUL" AND MANO A MANO, AND TAKING FROM THE ------- THE "BOTTOM OF THE BARREL' AND I mean the "bottom of the Barrellllllll, churches FUNDS and DISTRICT FUNDS.....!!!!!!!

NO WONDER WHY THE CHURCHES ARE LIKE THEY ARE....

BUT NOT SAMMMY, HE IS BUILDING A "MEGA CHURCH STRUCTURE" BECAUSE HE EXPECTS THE SAME FOLLOWING"....

THAT IS WHY HE FIGHTS SO MUCH TO BE IN THE BOARD, BECAUSE THE PEOPLE "FOLLOW", THE "HONORABLES."
BUT ONCE THEY ARE NO LONGER "HONORABLES" THEY WILL ABANDON" THE BUILDING AND FOLLOW EVEN TO THE DESERT, THE "ONES IN THE GB.

LOOK WHAT HAPPENED TO "EL SILOE", IT WAS THE ONLY CHURCH "PERMITTED" TO EXIST HERE IN lA.BY BROTHER NAVA..... LOOK AT IT NOW.... ABANDONED, AFTER THE GB NO LONGER PASTORED...

HISTORY IS YOUR BEST "INSTRUCTOR"...."HISTORY TRULY IS MY DEAR"....


Let me"remind you of a past situation."

There was a choir named "Soldiers on Patrol" here in the Los Angeles District....

this choir was doing a tremendous out reach.....for souls...

Iam sure some of you know about this...Well they came to congregate in the church of Daniel Hernandez, brother of David Hernandez, in the church of Santa Anita, here in the East L.A. District.....

The Pastor Hernandez,of the church of Santa Anita.... had "big" problems.....we all know.

But the Choir members and the choir director did not know...

The problems of the Pastor of Santa Anita had been going on for many years.....God rest his soul....

But the problems only exploded and surfaced, "big" time,

ONLY WHEN AND ONLY THEN....... because Sam Valverde, was tremendously "THREATEN" BY THE "EXODUS" BY THE YOUTH OF FOF....SAMMMY'S CHURCH...
Who went to "congregate" at the Santa Anita church because of the "great music."


SAMMY MADE SUCH A SCANDALOUS HEARING, THAT THE "ENTIRE" GENERAL BOARD CAME TO THE DEFENSE OF "sAMMY.....
'what ever sammy wants....sammy gets!!!!!

(except the one he really loved), and this is the truth.....THAT IS HIS RAGE.......SO IS AGUILAR'S...

THE CHOIR WAS "KICKED" OUT AND WAS TOLD THAT ANYONE ATTENDING THE CHOIR WAS TO BE "OUT OF COMMUNION" FROM THE AA.

MANY OF HIS YOUTH LEFT FOT.., BUT THE CHOIR MEMBERS WERE "SHOCKED' AT THE HATE AND ANGER FROM THE "HONORABLES" THAT MANY left.

MANY ARE NOW CONGREGATING WITH "SHIELD OF FAITH" CHURCHES....AN APOSTOLIC MOVEMENT OF AFRO-AMERICAN CONGREGATIONS AND
MANY HISPANICS...


WHY I MENTION THIS...IS BECAUSE "DON'T YOU DARE "THREATEN" SAMMY, OR HE WILL "MESS YOU UP", WITH NO MERCY.....

HE REMINDS ME OF THE SAME SPIRIT OF "ARROGANCE" OF RICHARD MAFFEY, LEOPARDO MAFFEY,SERGIO MAFFEY,FROM THE MORENO VALLEY CHURCH HERE IN THE INTERIOR DISTRICT.,
ALSO OF SANCHEZ, PACHECO, PRADO, AGUILAR'S ARROGANCE AND PRIDEFUL...


"ARROGANT AND PRIDEFUL" OF WHAT?

THEIR LOUSY,AND IMPROVISHED AND DISFUNTUAL CHILDHOOD???
with no love for their brethren in the churches. and no mercy on THE BRETHREN WHO WORK SOOO HARD getting their monies......

THE HONORABLES.. FOUND OUT "HOW TO BECOME RICH OVER NIGHT AT THE EXPENSE OF THE "DORCAS, MOPS, FUND RAISHERS" AND THE "WORKING MANDADERAS" GEORGINA, AND SANTA'S FAMOUS FLOR AZUL AND MANO A MANO FUND RAISERS...

I have a strong feeling....that after this"glorious" convocation of
the "Apostolic World Alliance" having convocations, (conventions) every three months, the "Honorables" will have to "DISOBEY'
Sammy AND START HAVING MEMBERS CONVENTIONS.,,NO MATTER HOW MUCH THE CONVENTIONS WILL COST.

AND IF THE CONVENTIONS ARE TOO FAR HERE IN CALIFORNIA ...
THEY WILL FOLLOW THE APOSTOLIC WORK ALLIANCES WHO WILL HAVE THEIR CONVENTIONS IN COLORADO AND TEXAS AND IN ARIZONA..

ALL THE YOUTH WILL LEAVE AND THE PASTORS AND DORCAS WILL LEAVE... TO BECOME MEMBERS WITH THE AWA..

WE WERE BORN WITH FIVE (5) INNATE TRAITS, OR NEEDS.

1-. SPIRITUAL
2- PHYSICAL
3. PHYSIOLOGICAL
4. PSYCHOLOGICAL AND
5. SOCIAL

THIS IS THE REASON THAT "ONCE" WE HAVE A "SENSE" OF BELONGING AND OF
"BONDING" IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO
"DETACH".

BUT IF WE HAVE "FAMILIARITIES " AND A SENSE OF "BELONGING" WITH BONDING WITH ANOTHER GROUP OF WORSHIP, WE WILL DEFINITELY AND MOST SURELY LEAVE....

AND SADLY THIS IS WHAT WILL HAPPEN....

BECAUSE "ENOUGH IS ENOUGH" WITH THE "HONORABLES".

SEE YOU TONIGHT,TOMORROW AND SATURDAY. LORD WILLING...

ENJOY,PRAISE GOD AND BELONG!!!!!
LOVE GOD ANDYOUR BRETHREN....

GOD BLESS YOU.

MAY THE LORD HAVE MERCY ON US AND BLESSING UNTO ALL OF YOU..

GOOD NIGHT.

Unknown said...

have you not heard that the generals offices might be moved from ranco cucamonga to f o t in fontana because expenses are to many and only a few are in the office at any one time.
hmmmm, whats going on.

LL said...

PEDRO

If it's tru,e what your saying about the office moving. They will definately be sticking their hand in the Cookie Jar!
They should have the MANCHA DIRECTIVA pay the expenses, since they were so anxious to be in the aa board.

HENRY
What's happening ? Are you in the Court room today?

LL said...

ALBERTO LUCEO

What don't just have the initials AFLAC? :)

Unknown said...

So what did you guys think about the convention last night?

Unknown said...

It was a good preaching last night
and it was weird not seen la mesa manipuladora behind the pulpit :)

factsonly1 said...

So today Maffey is supposed to enter a plea. Did he enter a plea after all? Or did he just extend his case some more?

Anyone have any updates?


This post is getting too long.

MODERATOR, new post please.

Unknown said...

UPDATE:

THE DEFENDANT REQUESTED AND WAS GRANTED ANOTHER CONTINUANCE. DEFANDANT IS DUE BACK IN COURT FEBUARY 24TH.
===================================

People of Calif. Vs Maffey

Case Number: 08SF0904 Printable Version


Defendant: Maffey, Ricardo Avalos
Demographics...
Eyes: Green Hair: Brown Height (ft/in): 5'8" Weight (lbs): 240

Names...

2 names found, displaying all names.1 Last Name First Name Middle Name Type
Maffey Ricardo Avalos Real Name
Maffey Ricardo Alias

Case Status: Open
Details...
Case Stage: Entered Release Status: Released on Bond DMV Hold: N
Charging Document: Complaint Mandatory Appearance: Y Amendment #: 0

Case InfoHearing InfoRelease InfoSentencingCounts
4 counts found, displaying all counts.1 Seq S/A Violation Date Section Statute OL Violation Plea Plea Date Disposition Dispo Date
1 0 11/26/2007 288(c)(1) PC F Lewd act upon a child - age 14 or 15
2 0 11/26/2007 288(c)(1) PC F Lewd act upon a child - age 14 or 15
3 0 11/26/2007 288(c)(1) PC F Lewd act upon a child - age 14 or 15
4 0 11/26/2007 288.3(a) PC F Luring of a child with intent to commt specified crime

LL said...

Ladies & Gentlemen

The Maffey issue it OVER. He will eventually plea Guilty. Why does he keep dragging it? He should just save the family $$$ and get it over with. Some of us know, that this was over before it even started.

lito said...

saludos a todos, estube fuera de la ciudad, atendiendo asuntos de suma importancia.

saludos fraternales.

lito said...

SOLOS , TLC , Y TODOS LOS INTERESADOS. SALUDOS.

SI CON LAS CITAS O PORCIONES BIBLICAS QUE HABEIS SITADO ANTERIORMENTE QUEREIS DAR A ENTENDER QUE JESUCRISTO EL SENOR TENIA HERMANOS Y HERMANAS, ESTAIS EN UNA BLASFEMIA Y EREJIA, Y FALTA DE CONOCIMIENTO. LAS SAGRADAS ESCRITURAS (BIBLIA), TIENEN UN CONTENIDO GRAMATICAL PRACTICAMENTE INFINITO, PUES HABLA DE SUCESOS QUE ESTAN LIGADOS EN LA HISTORIA Y HISTORIA TRADICION, GEOGRAFICA, CULTURAL,POLITICA, INTELECTUAL DE AQUELLOS TIEMPOS. QUERIDOS, LAS SAGRADAS ESCRITURAS (BIBLIA), PARA USTEDES LOS QUE PROTESTAN, DESAFORTUNADAMENTE ES EL UNICO, UNICO..... DOCUMENTO SAGRADO EN QUE SE BASAN. OLVIDAN LA TRADICION EN QUE LOS DICIPULOS VIVIAN Y SUS ALRREDEDORES. HERMANOS MIOS, LES HABLA UN SIMPLE FILIGRES QUE LE GUSTA INVESTIGAR SU "FE" CRISTIANA. YO FUI 4A GENERACION DE IAFCJ Y AA. MI FAMILIA ES MUY CONOCIDA EN SUS ALRREDEDORES....MI CORAZON PALPITA MUY SERCA DE USTEDES.

DIOS LOS BENDIGA.

lito said...

CONDOLENCIAS DE MI PARTE A FAMILIA CONTRERAS. QUE DIOS LES MANDE SU SANTO CONSUELO.

WatchOut! said...

Anyone know if Bishop Mendoza got "reprimanded" by the gb for speaking out at Sister Rosie's funeral services. That was so lovely of him! Serves them right.

InglesConBarreras said...

Caminando Voy:
The GeeBee's don't have the courage (b _ _ _ s) to do anything like that anymore! They know that they can't afford to lose any more "INFLUENTIALS". But FYI, I heard from a very reliable source that Bishop Mendoza is making an "exodus" soon! Stay posted for more developing news!

To Lito:
Compas! Ya banate no? LOL! Pero si te hechamos de menos, mas o menos pero mas menos, que mas!

Si se puede... como dice el nuevo Prez!

cbg said...

Senor y filigres lito dijo, "SI CON LAS CITAS O PORCIONES BIBLICAS QUE HABEIS SITADO ANTERIORMENTE QUEREIS DAR A ENTENDER QUE JESUCRISTO EL SENOR TENIA HERMANOS Y HERMANAS, ESTAIS EN UNA BLASFEMIA Y EREJIA, Y FALTA DE CONOCIMIENTO."

Senor por favor lea los escritos por el histriador Josefo (Josephus), uno de los historiadores mas conocidos por escolares religiosos. El Habla bastante de Santiago hermano de Jesus (Josefo, Libro 20 de antiguedades, capitulo 9, verso 1). Y NO DICE QUE ERA HERMANO EN LA FE PERO HERMANO CARNAL!!!!

Asi que tu comentario, "QUERIDOS, LAS SAGRADAS ESCRITURAS (BIBLIA), PARA USTEDES LOS QUE PROTESTAN, DESAFORTUNADAMENTE ES EL UNICO, UNICO..... DOCUMENTO SAGRADO EN QUE SE BASAN. OLVIDAN LA TRADICION EN QUE LOS DICIPULOS VIVIAN Y SUS ALRREDEDORES." Es otra ensenanza erronia Catolica. Se encuentra mucha historia y arqueologia, aparte de la Bilbia, que habla de los hermanos y hermanas de Jesus.

Es una tristesa que un hombre como tu que dice haber sido apostolico regrese otra vez al vomito de la ramera. Porque no lees 2 Pedro 2:20-22 y te arrepientes no sea que venga el Senor y te quedes a sufrir el juicio mas grande que recivira la iglesia ramera catolica!

Quel Dios tenga misericordia de ti.

Factsonly1 said...

"Bishop" Medoza should be excommunicated for his harsh comments about the general board.

He committed the sin of causing divisions in the church.

The Tri-Unified Prophets have been praying for unity in the church.

This act of spiritual treason must be dealt with. His comments only went to cause division, disord and disharmony among the brothers and sisters of the church.

Prophet Romo, Prophet Montenegro and Prophet Aguilar are praying that the church unify against evils and sins that destroy the one and unified church!

"Bishop" Medoza is a prime example of the old timer, old school ways of the get no where strategy.

Its the new generation of apostolic prophets that are unifying the church for a more excellent growth.

Anonymous said...

factsonly1

Two words - "move on"

I went to the AWA Convocation and have come to my ultimate decision

I am now a member of the Apostolic World Alliance

The people rejoiced in the Lord and are moving in a mass exodus

There were members from AAFCJ there

Some were there as support while others went to spy for the GB

I know this because as I approached them and greeted them they didn't know I had already joined the Alliance. They snooted and sneard about the people of AWA

I personally witnessed some youth of the AWA greet them and these people literally turned themselves from them. These people from the AAFCJ at an AWA event, gave them dirty looks and rotten faces

Many of them couldn't handle the anointing and couldn't handle that the AWA are moving on without them. So they decided to leave in between the services.

He is the Alpha and Omega, Beginning and the End. No man is before Him (God)

To name just a few states that attended this AWA Convocation - California, Texas, Oklahoma, Colorado, Arizona, etc.

ynos said...

to factsonly1: "Bishop" Medoza should be excommunicated for his harsh comments about the general board. He committed the sin of causing divisions in the church.

These are the issues that the AA is dealing with its hierarchy system of governing like the Catholic Church, bishops that are out of order and speak as their own man not of the religious order that they are affiliated with. Bishop Mendoza is causing rifts within the AA and not the Church. If he is excommunicated like the plaintiffs were, it confirms what the AA is- a denomination or a religious organization and nothing else. The Church is still holy, pure, united and not driven by politics as the AA. For your information, the AA is not the Church and the Church is not the AA. As has been posted by “Ingles Sin Barreras”, reliable sources confirm that he (Bishop Mendoza) is on the verge of leaving the AA and not looking back and so are others who will eventually see the light!

On my next post, I’ll address your holy trinity of prophets!

Fast_not_diet said...

ynos,

Do you know of any specific churches from souther Cali. I am very much interested is "moving on" and liberating myself from this corrupt leadership.

An AA minister.

ynos said...

factsonly1 said... “The Tri-Unified Prophets have been praying for unity in the church.

This act of spiritual treason must be dealt with. His comments only went to cause division, disord and disharmony among the brothers and sisters of the church.

Prophet Romo, Prophet Montenegro and Prophet Aguilar are praying that the church unify against evils and sins that destroy the one and unified church!”

This was the prayer of the Son of God, Jesus: “That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.” (John 17:21-23)

This prayer has already been answered and there is no need to pray for that to happen because it is a done deal. Read Acts 2:1: “And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.” If your prophets are praying for the unity of the AA, have at it. That will never be accomplished because it is a man institution and not a spiritual one and their efforts will yield small dividends

ynos said...

fast_not_diet...

I believe that the AWA has a web page under development which is: www.apostolicworldalliance.org and there they have a contact person who is Pastor Saul Avila from Austin, TX. He would be the proper person to contact as I don't have that information.

It seems that the AWA is now a legit group in that we have heard that it is officially registered in the State of Texas. Their ranks no doubt will grow more so if the appeal court rules in the plaintiffs favor.

Reliable sources from the AA say that the GB is worried and agonizing because the case can be overturned! We'll wait and see.

For now, let's join the AWA!

factsonly1 said...

I heard there was about 200 pastors present at the awa event. The AWA is getting the attention of a lot of independent churches who do not want anything to do with the old assembly.

Looks like the AWA is growing at a very rapid pace. IN fact, probably faster than the AA itself, at the moment.

DJ said...

to factsonly1 ur straight up a demon from hell...because demons hate truth... I was there at the funeral and Bishop Mendoza did not create divison..
its men like him that we need to lead the aa. Men who have intigrity and courage to speak out when there is wrong being done... we need a brand new board..


1. Bishop Mendoza
2. Bishop hoyer
3. Bishop Adam Lopez
4.Bishop Romo

these men all have intigity and do what is right for the aa
you see its not about money or power or position for these men.

you can just see how blessed and annoited and led by God these men are

they sure would clean house

GB never wanted bishop mendoza as bishop because they know he would never go along with there sinful way. They are scared of him because
he is TRUTH . Sin never likes to be exposed!!!!!

DJ said...

to factsonly1 ur straight up a demon from hell...because demons hate truth... I was there at the funeral and Bishop Mendoza did not create divison..
its men like him that we need to lead the aa. Men who have intigrity and courage to speak out when there is wrong being done... we need a brand new board..


1. Bishop Mendoza
2. Bishop hoyer
3. Bishop Adam Lopez
4.Bishop Romo

these men all have intigity and do what is right for the aa
you see its not about money or power or position for these men.

you can just see how blessed and annoited and led by God these men are

they sure would clean house

GB never wanted bishop mendoza as bishop because they know he would never go along with there sinful way. They are scared of him because
he is TRUTH . Sin never likes to be exposed!!!!!

east los said...

TO DJ....AMEN ....TELL IT LIKE IT IS

InglesConBarreras said...

Winos (Ynos):
FYI, my blog name is InglesConBarreras, not InglesSinBarreras! Rezun bein iz dat I tuk da corz an feold! LOL!

In regards to Frank Balboa, he has always been so ambitious and position hungry. Back in the 90's he was very buddy-buddy with Victor Prado, Richard Buffet & John Vasquez.

When he was Youth District Prez in Central Texas, he would ridicule & belittle Ruben Trevino because he was so threatened by him.

The only reason why Frank Balboa made it to the Nat'l Youth Board is because he kissed-up to the GB through Victor & Maffey.

Also, Frank Balboa thought that he would be the next Pastor at ABC in Houston, TX, so much that he started to falsify accusations against Pastor Mendoza and do things behind his back.

Pastor Romo prophecied at an event in Texas over Pastor Mendoza and it said something about... You need not to worry about your church, God already has the appointed man for the job, so Frank Balboa thought he was referring to him. (LOL)!

Frank Balboa has always looked for a church handout, so he finally got what he wanted and is Pastoring a church in Austin, Tx.

From what sources tell me, he is not doing very well, though initially he was receiving members from other churches in the area, especially from the other church in town.

Which leads me to say the following: Those of you young men who aspire the ministry, STOP being so self-serving & self preserving! Just look at your leaders, what they have done, are doing and will continue to do!

Jesus said: "The kings of this world seek those things, but that is not the criteria in the Kingdom of God. He who wants to be the greatest is a servant to many!"

Anyways, I have so much to say but I will limit my words.

Si se puede con Obama-nos! Viva el nuevo Prez! y oremos por el porque no sabe a lo que se metio. La cosa esta que se quema como Sanchito... "quemame, quemame, quemame... Ay!

Al raton! - ICB

SLJ said...

DJ:
I don't know about the other two but, Bishop Hoyer is another puppet for the GB, I know this for a fact. He will not do what is right, because even when presented the true facts chose to ignore the problem even if it meant our church would continue losing members because of the Pastor here. Called hima "Man Of God". if he was truly that then why have we lost over 75% of our congregation.
And Adam Lopez sided with the Gb to kick out B. Rodriguez and Avilia and Salomon. Nope we don't need leaders like this.

whatever said...

You guys make me laugh. You all seem to have so much insight (or not), and that’s why you all use aliases? No one has the spiritual convictions to stand behind there words with there name, Umh? Well like it or not Bishop Mendoza said in public what he believes. No secret back room meetings and ulterior motives. As for the person who says they have it on good authority that Bishop Mendoza is leaving. That’s so just an educated guess. Half say he will and half guess he won’t, so there’s a 50/50 chance. And if you come-up on the wrong side you can blame you source, or just change or alias. Anyways, even those who think they know, don’t. As for me I just watching and waiting I don’t pretend to have any great insight. Lastly, doesn't the word of God say something about preaching HIS word without "FEAR OR FAVOR"? Lots of men can bring down the House, but their just like sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. They look nice and shiny and make lots of noise, but when it comes down to it that’s all it is.

Remembering said...

DJ: I agree with you that we need more man to stand for what is right. Here are some examples: Pastor Baldemar Rodriguez,Pastor Abel Torres, Pastor David Zuniga who stood up to these tyrants all for the sake of justice. And yes we need other Pastors to be men who are not afraid to speak up such as Pastors Joe Mendoza and Adam Lopez. I commend these men who are not turning the other way but to suggest Pastor Hoyer and Romo to lead the AA is would be total ignorance. Aren't these men yes-man's?

What-Ever!! said...

I attended the AWA Convocation. I am an independent pastor and I can truly say I was dissappointed at what I experienced at this event.

They talk about being a 21st century organization, but the services seemed like something from the 1950's. Then there was the tantrum of Bishop Solomon in his preaching about how the the AA brought in the cops and locksmith the day he was kicked out, and if that wasn't bad enough then he goes on a says "Move over AA, here comes the AWA!!!" It was revealed to me finally what the motives of these men are in starting the AWA.

Oh and that bald lawyer that's their spokesperson....drove me up the wall with all his brown-nosing and AA bashing in his 3 hour long presentation. Oh but we have moved on...come on.

I will continue in my search of an organization or association or whatever to affiliate myself and my congregation.

May God have Mercy on all of US!

What-Ever!! said...

Don't beleive the lie that all 6 directors of the AWA have the same authority, decision making and are all co-equal.

It is evident who the leader is

BALDEMAR RODRIGUEZ!!!!!!!!!!

Very 21st Century

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!1

Anonymous said...

you wish you knew

I know who you are and you're a liar because you're not a pastor

Just as I stated earlier bloggers, another AAFCJ member upset that the people from AWA moved on

You're exactly the AAFCJ members I talked about in my previous post

It's unfortunate that your own ignorance beseeches you

Talking about salomon, he spoke truth, then again it is obvious that you don't know how to handle the truth. If you did, you wouldn't have succumbed to a blog.

As a new AWA member I am proud to know that you have not decided to join the AWA. It is good that you are leaving the AAFCJ also. Neither the AWA nor the AAFCJ need self proclaimed pastor's as yourself.

I'm also glad that you uppercased BR's name, that shows that you still hold him in high respect and full authority over your life. Listen to your subconcious friend, it speaks louder than your own voice.

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Unknown said...

ha ha ha WWF or AWA is a joke.

It composed of wannabes and hasbeens. Only UPC and apostolic rejects need apply.

Here's your AWA in action. Doesn't look like thouands to me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w77yFykphUQ&feature=channel

What-Ever!! said...

Hey Patrick, put the crabbie pattie down and please tell the whole wide world who I am!!!!!


May God Have Mercy On us All

Here we go again said...

Just a post for anybody that just loves great preaching.

Each speaker has been specifically selected for his ability to provide a fresh approach to reminding us as to our purpose for this hour.

Remember, in that day you stand before the Lord. You will stand alone, all men great and small. Your associations and your opinions will not matter.

The only thing that really matters is that you stand worthy of his grace.

Honestly, I don't really care who you are. Everybody, including myself must transform his mind(intellect) daily to renew, renovate, repair it, such as to mature in accordance to His complete will, decree, volition, desire.

As for me and my house (meaning everybody in it) we will serve the Lord. I can do that anywhere.

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