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Orange County District Attorney
Press Release
Tony Rackauckas, District Attorney
401 Civic Center Drive West
Santa Ana, CA 92701
For Immediate Release
Case # TBA
November 12, 2008
Contacts:
Susan Kang Schroeder
Public Affairs Counsel
Office: 714-347-8408
Cell: 714-292-2718
Farrah Emami
Spokesperson
Office: 714-347-8405
Cell: 714-323-4486
PROTESTANT PASTOR CHARGED WITH MOLESTING
14-YEAR-OLD FEMALE PARISHIONER
NEWPORT BEACH– A Protestant pastor of the Apostolic Christian Church in San Clemente was charged today for molesting a 14-year-old female parishioner that he met through his job. Ricardo Avalos Maffey, 42, Santa Ana, was charged with three felony counts of lewd acts upon a child between the ages of 14 and 15, and one felony count of contacting a minor with the intent to engage in child molest. If convicted, he faces a maximum sentence of five years and six months in prison. He is out of custody on $100,000 bail. Maffey is scheduled to be arraigned Dec. 5, 2008, at 8:30 a.m., Harbor Justice Center, Newport Beach. The Department will be determined later.
Maffey met Jane Doe through his role as a pastor. Between May 2008 and August 2008, the defendant is accused of violating his position of trust by engaging in illegal sexual contact with Jane Doe. On multiple occasions, he is accused of passionately kissing Jane Doe on the mouth. He is also accused of contacting her several times to meet and engage in kissing.
Anyone with additional information or who believes they have been a victim is encouraged to contact District Attorney Supervising Investigator Randy Litwin at (714)347-8794 or the Orange County Sheriff’s Sex Crimes Investigation Unit at (714)647-7419.
The Orange County Sheriff’s Department investigated this case. Deputy District Attorney Tony Ferrentino of the Sexual Assault Unit is prosecuting this case.
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Wasn't Richard Maffey in line to serve on the Apostolic Assembly General Board? Has the organization made a public comment? How far in advance did they know Maffey was performing these lewd acts and did nothing?
Don't worry, the insurance companies will pay the attorney's fee's and penalties.
http://orangecountyda.com/home/index.asp?page=8&recordid=1074&returnurl=index.asp%3Fpage%3D8
http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/OC-Pastor-Accused-of-Kissing-Teenage-Girl.html
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/orange/la-me-pastor13-2008nov13,0,1568393.story
http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=4226712&cl=10649090&src=news
http://www.myfoxla.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7851143&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1
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«Oldest ‹Older 3001 – 3200 of 3530 Newer› Newest»No son ningunos "chismosos" porque a nadie se les dijo que no dijieran nada, no es un secreto. Ademas son noticias como para gritarlas con jubilo a los cuatro vientos - !ESTAMOS POR OBTENER UN HERMOSO TEMPLO QUE AL PRINCIPIO SE VENDIA POR CASI MEDIO MILLON$$$$$! Got it? Y esos hermanos a quienes ignorantemente les estas llamando "chismosos" son de lo mas lindos, fieles y trabajadores para la obra de Dios.
Caminando: Me platican que este cuate (revelacion de el diablo) es el CHISMOSO mas grande que puede existir en todo el mundo! Disculpen me damas pero este individo es peor que una mujer. Estan seguros que es un hombre??
que siga la fiesta!!!!
caminando_voy said...
Glad to see this blog's come alive again!
hehehe
who is Roy, que risa, siempre que alguien escribe su pensamiento, es del diablo or es Roy
lololol!!
Gente Gente do you know realize the tactis of the board why waste time with them. If only people would pay attention to the vocal variety this person has used you would clearly know it is not roy who ever he may be and it is an AA GB member you can tell right of the part they all talk to the same.
Revelacion del Diablo no te enchiles Bro. Si el zapato te queda metetelo a fuerzas aunque te cause mucho dolor! El detalle aqui no es si eres Roy o no. El detalle es que sigues siendo el diablo en vivo!
quick question: according to the int. missions dept. letterhead to the bros. is that espinoza's own son paul sanchez espinoza listed as being in charge of graphic design?? also, where were the bros. being terminated from??
So whats the latest on Richard (the tongue) Maffey?
:Para
Gilberto López and Guillermo Puentes,
El tratamiento que les ha dado Arturo Espinosa no es nada nuevo. Este es el caracter de Espinosa, a pesar que no sabe predicar tambien le falla en ser un lider.
Preguntenle si se acuerda como se porto en Odessa con la hija de el Pastor Quinn? Se le fueron los pies que le temblaban tanto con esta chica! Se la sacaba a lo escurito! Luego no se la podia quitar de ensima. Y por ello se tuvo que ir antes de cumplir su periodo! No mas preguntenle a la gente de Odessa. Buena representacion de C.B.A.N en esos dias! OBISPO! Un Manoso es lo que es!
El rumor que se oye aqui en Calif. es que la MD le ha aportado un gran cantidad de dinero a Maffey para su defensa. Por eso se andan pidiendo 10 mil dolares por pastor para ayuda de el fondo general. Si Maffey pierde el caso entonces la AA tambien va hacer afectada! El caso no es solamente contra Maffey sino tambien van a ir atras de la AA.
Tune in to view proof of Pastor Torres and his congregations blessings.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH5vdW862-Y&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MU9pP7pq7l0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_lSmpK-p34
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OJI5nRVW4Q&feature=related
Enjoy and rejoice with us and send your congratulations!
Dear Bloggers, if you are all so happy as I am concerning the blessings that Bishop Abel Torres and his congregation received from the Lord Iam praising the Lord because God in His Tender Mercies, has manifested His Holy Power in bringing this blessing to pass in such a short time..
And not ten years later. According to your faith It shall be done.
La Revolucion ya esta en accion...pero la razon que no se demuestra mas es porque "los Pastores todavia estan enbelesados"...y negado que "No hay nada mal con los "honorables."
We know that the AWA has the true doctrine of Jesus Christ and the Apostoles. We know this.
But ONE OF THE "MAIN HOOKS" THAT WILL CATCH THE BIGGEST CHURCH'S ATTENTION IS THAT IN THE AWA YOU DO NOT HAVE TO "DEAL WITH" DIEZMOS DE DIEZMOS....NOR "LA FLOR AZUL" DE GEORGINA Y LA SANTA LION" NI DE FRANCISCA, GONE' GRINGA" "FRANCES"....HA!!!
NOR WITH "MANO A MANO" AND ALL THE SHENANIGANS" THAT ARE ALL IN THE "NAME OF GIVING" WHICH IS JUST PLAIN FRAUD"!!!!!
THAT GOES TO THE "MIGHTY DOUBLE SALARIES AND THE MAFFEY'S
"FUND RAISING FOR COURT AND ATTORNEYS DUES"..PAID BY YOU PASTORS THAT ARE IN "PLAIN DENIAL"., AND SCARED TO SPEAK OUT!!!!
THE AWA WILL HAVE PLENTY OF CONVENTIONS AND ALSO RETREATS., AND THIS WILL INVOLVE ONE TO ONE RAPPORT WITH THE BRETHREN...
BUT WITH THE MONIES THAT YOU WILL KEEP FOR YOUR "LOCAL CHURCHES", FOR MAINTAINING LARGER CHURCHES, INSTEAD OF "DIESMOS DE DIESMOS AND "GEORGINA AND SANTE AND FRANCISCA, "FLOR AZUL" WHICH IS JUST PLAIN FRAUD...
AND NOT HAVING TO "DEAL WITH REVELATIONS GIVING TO SAMMMY VALALVERDE...ON BANQUETS THAT INVOLVED. $2,500.00, $5,000.00 AND $10,000.00
FOR SO CALLED MISSIONS WHICH WAS MUCH MORE FOR THE "LARGE SALARIES OF $10,000.00 PER MONTH OF THE "HONORABLES!!!!!
YOU CAN ALL AFFORD TO GO TO AS MANY CONVENTIONS AS THE AWA HAS FOR "CHRISTIAN FELLOWSHIP"!!!!
THE PURPOSE OF THE AWA IS FOR CHRISTIAN FELLOWSHIP, AND FOR BEING PART OF A FELLOWSHIP THAT LOVES AND WORSHIPS GOD AND DOES NOT DO "FRAUD", AND PASTORS WILL HAVE A NON PROFIT STATUS AND HAVE LEGAL CREDENTIALS, TO ACT UPON AS A CLERGY MAN OF GOD.
ALSO TO CONTINUE IN FULL FELLOWSHIP WITH OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS THAT WE GREW UP WITH AND WORK FOR THE KINGDOM OF GOD TOGETHER IN "ONE ACCORD".
TEACHING DOCTRINE ISSUES AS THE APOSTOLIC PAUL DID IN ROMANS......
GOD BLESS YOU.....
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK AWA...GOD BLESS YOU.....
Thanks Antonio for writing....
It was about time...just like me I have been abroad...
But let me tell you Pastors...
It was not too plain to me on what Brothers were "ousted" from the AA by the Honorables because of having Bishop David Zuniga preach..
Where? When? Who was there etc., would be great if "clarified."
I was not the only one left uninformed many of my colleagues were too.
So The Honorables 'PUNISHED THOSE BROTHERS?"
SO AQUI TE VA SANCHEZ!!!!
PORQUE NO TE QUITAN A TI SANCHEZ DE PRESIDENTE Y A TUS AMIGITOS VALAVERDE Y PACHECHO Y ESPECIALMENTE A ARTURO ESPINOZA, CUNADO DE SANCHEZ...
SI ELISEO SANCHEZ, tu hermano, Sanchez.... QUE "VENDIO A SU ESPOSA" CON DIFERENTE HOMBRES DE LA UNIVERSIDAD.. CUANDO ELISEO ERA PASTOR EN HOUSTON, TEXAS., Y SALIO EN TODOS LOS PERIODICOS DE ESA AREA?
SI ELISEO SANCHEZ PUEDE PISAR UN "PULPITO APOSTOLOLICO" DE LA ASAMBLEA? PORQUE NO SE REMUEVE ESE HOMBRE IMPIO? PORQUE NO SE REMUEVE TU HERMANO PORQUE NO DANIEL SANCHEZ...y tu Sanchez lo que te paso en Tucson, y en Solana con la chica Espinoza???Te acuerdas de aquellos tiempos...
Te acuerdas de Gloria....y quien te "quita a ti"???
Y AGUILAR LO TIENE A ELISEO COMO "EVANGELISTA NACIONAL"..
PORQUE NO QUITAN A AGUILAR TAMBIEN QUE FUE "NOMBRADO CON "DOS" VOTOS, EN LA CONVENCION EN LONG BEACH AQUI EN CALIFORNIA.????
Sanchez??????
QUE SABE TU HERMANO ELISEO DE TI DANIEL SANCHEZ?////QUE LE TIENES TANTO MIEDO??????
SI LOS PASTORES SON QUITADOS POR PERMETIR O INVITAR A HERMANOS DE LA APOSTOLIC WORLD ALLIANCE, O DE OTRAS IGLESIAS APOSTOLICAS, COMO LA IGLESIA DE MEXICO....
ENTONCES QUE "REMUEVAN A EL HERMANITO DE EL HONORABLES DANIEL SANCHEZ...Eliseo Evangelista puesto por Aguilar...AFUERA...................... UNA VEZ POR TODAS...
Y A PACHEO POR FRAUDE DE VENTA DE CARROS...Y A VALAVERDE POR VENDER LE IMPRENTA DE LA ASSAMBLEA SIN PERMISO DE LOS PASTORES...Y DARLE EL DINERO DE VENDER LA IMPRENTA A SU HIJO PARA QUE TENGA UN "NEGOCIO PROPIO DE SU CUENTA, OBTENIDO CON EL DINERO DE LA VENTA DE LA IMPRENTA DE LA ASAMBLEA.!!!!!
Y POR EL GRAN "ROBO DE DINERO" DE EL FAMOSO BANQUETE DE 2, 5, Y $10,000.00 DOLARES QUE ESE DINERO
"NUNCA LLEGO A LOS MISIONEROS"..
ESTO ES FRAUDE, Y TAMBIEN RAZON SUFICIENTE PARA "CEZAR A LOS HONORABALES DE EL PASTORADO Y MINISTERIO FALSO INVENTADO POR ELLOS MISMOS..POR FRAUDE EN LONG BEACH!!!!!!
Y no se te olvide VAALVERDE de Sister Mary en "la fuente church",
YA BASTA CON CARTAS QUE NOS ENVIAN A LOS PASTORES "QUE TODO ESTA BIEN," THAT ALL IS "WELLL IN THE WESTERN FRONT"..
SON PURAS MENTIRAS QUE TODO ESTA BIEN...NO GANARON EL CASO COMO DICEN LOS "HONORABLES EN SU MENTIROSA CARTA...QUE RECIENTEMENTE RECIVIMOS...
ES PURA MENTIRA QUE TODO ESTA BIEN....
NO ESTA NADA BIEN...
QUE DE HABER LINCHADO PASTORES,tus hermanos en Cristo....
HACER DIVISION, POR PURO "EGO, CONTROL, Y MUNIPULACION???????????
Y SIGUEN "MOLESTANDO CON MAS "PEDICHES" Y "PEDICHES" Y "PEDICHES" por mas y mass $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$,
SIN TAL VERGUENZA, DE MAS Y MAS Y MAS CONTROL DE LOS DINEROS...
Y TODO LO QUE QUIEREN, LOS "ALAMBRISTAS" QUE SON DE TIJUNA, PRADO, MAFFFEY, PACHECO VAVAVERDE, SANCHEZ, MARTIN, Y EL CUNADITO DE SANCHEZ...ESPINOZA,
Y AGUILAR CON LA "ALABRISTA" DE LA PAZ BAJA CALIFORNIA, ..LA CESIAIA, Y LA RAQUEL CONTRERASASAS...
ES MAS Y MAS Y MAS RECOGUENDO "FONDOS, Y MAS "FONDOS, Y MAS "FONDOS" PARA SUS PROPIAS GANACIENAS. Casas de milliones de $$$$$$ y carros lujosos..MERCEDES Y BEMEERS.....
COMO LOS "SANJANOS" Y LAS POBRES AVEJAS "NUNCA LES DAN FIN."
HASTA QUE MUEREN LAS POBRES AVEJAS!!!!!!
DISPIERTA,DISPIERTA, DISPIERTA.....
DILE A SANCHEZ QUE SI TE QUITA DEL PASTORADO POR QUE INVITAN A MINISTEROS QUE NO "QUIEREN" LOS HONORABLES...
QUE QUITEN PRIMERO A ELISEO SANCHEZ Y A ESPINOZA POR CONSINTIR PECADO EN SU PROPIO FAMILIA
Y A VALALVERDE, Y PACHEO, Y PRADO QUE LE "REGRESE EL CARRO A LA FAMILIA CASTORENA DE SAN FERANDO AQUI EN CALIFORNIA,
QUE SE LOS "ROBO" PRADO. Y A MARTIN POR COBRAR MILES DE DOLARES POR LOS PROGRAMAS...
NO TIENEN MISERICORIDA, NI CULTURA ESTOS "CHOLOS DE TIJUANA....Y DE BAJA CALIFORNIA....WANNA BEEEEEEEE!!!!! HA!
ES TRISTE CONTEMPLAR LO QUE SE SURIO PARA LOGRAR LA ASAMBLEA APOSTOLICA DE LA FE EN CRISTO JESUS.
DE LOS HERMANOS PIONEROS, Y SUS CONGREGACIONES..
PARA QUE ESTOS BANDIOS, VIVIDORES, SIN VERGUENZA, DERRIBIEN TODO POR SUS PROPIAS "FALSAS GANANCIAS."
PUROS NIOFITOS...INFANTILES!!!!!
LEESE ROMANOS CAPITULO 1.....
TODO ES PARA LOS HONORABLES..
NO DEJAN EL "PUESTO DE LA DIRECTIVA, O SUS IGLESIAS "DOMINGUEROS"
POR EL "GRANDE CHEQUE QUE RECIBEN CADA CUATRO SEMANAS.....DOBLE SALARIOS.
Y USTED QUE ....TIENE QUE QUEDAR BIEN CON ELLOS O "AFUERA"...
PUES EL DIA DE EL JUCIO...USTED PASTOR VA A TENER QUE DAR CUENTA POR HABER CONCENTIDO TODO ESTA MALDAD DE LOS HONORABLES, CON LOS PASTORES, Y CONGREGACIONES...
EN OTRAS "PALABRAS" POR SER UN "COBARDE"!!!!!!!!!
QUE DIOS TENGA MISERICORDIA DE USTEDES....
PUES PRONTO ESTA LA VENIDA..
DE CRISTO...Y USTED VA A TENER QUE "RESPONDER"!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Y USTED VA A TENER QUE "DAR CUENTA" CON SUS HIJOS......
Hey Vicente Alvarez , the secondED
What happened to you????
You wennnnna baccckka to deceit?
Wow I thought you had more "class"!!!!!
They had to let you back or your Papa would have given them "hallabalooo from here to eternity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
See Brothers and Sister the "Honorables are such a big blufffffff"
But since we are soooooooooooo scared then....they play "cat and mouse with you......"
COWARDS...USING GOD'S NAME IN VAIN...
THEY SAY.... PDC..INSTEAD OF PAZ DE CRISTO!!!
NO WONDER THE "HONORABLES DO NOT HAVE ANY PEACE AT ALL!!!!
HOW DISSAPOINTING VINCE!!!!!!!!!
HOWWWWWWWWWW DISSAPPOINTING....WHAT A LET DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!
I THOUGHT YOU HAD MORE "WISDOM" AND MORE "EDUCATION?
I WAS SO WRONG!!!!
BUT AFTER ALL CONSIDER YOUR ROOTS...
"DURAN" WHAT CAN "WE" EXPECT!!!!!
Another election fraud.
The Northern Central District.
Some pastors were not happy about how the elections were ran.
How Hoyer's Parents were brought in so they could see their wannbe DGB member son accept the Bishop position. Supposely they were brought here before the election.
So now this coming Saturday there is a gran Banquet to Honor Hoyer. For what?
A great JOB?
Or for being a brown Noserto the DGB?
Don't know...
Is this the Bishop Hoyer that was married to Lillie Coronado, that got divorced?
Lillie was the daughter of Elder Reyes Coronado, and is the sister of Becky Montes from Indio here in California.
Lillie is one of the sweetest ladies I have ever known. She took after her mother Angelita, that's for sure!!!
So now he is Bishop?
Wow!!!!!
To IT SURE DID:!
Thank you for reminding us again what this blog is "all about".
If we want to keep the Revolucion Going on...We need to be reminded of the election fraud, the monies
thirsty wolves, as you call them, THE HONORABLES!!!
And the linching wolverines, that devour with no mercy...And that have no scruples, nor shame...
We need to be "focused" and also to remember that the elections are coming up...in 2010...no use to "fret...." they sure will be be "FIXED" TOO..
Therefore Pastors do not fast that day of elections....the fraud will be done again. Don't even go to the expected convention....Don't even bother..because the musicical chairs will be again"fixed"....
Oh Lord Jesus PLEASE remove these WOLVES...the honorables...In the name of Jesus rebuke them Lord Jesus!!!Remove them...now.....Thank you Lord.
You are so right...They do not "quit" no matter what cause BECAUSE the money sent to them are "Mega Bucks...DOUBLE SALARIES....
HOW DARE THEM!!!!!
ROBBERS!!!
Thank you for keeping us focues..."It sure did"..
Thank you....And God bless you always..
FYI:
Becky is an old friend of ours and the sister married to the new bishop Hoyer is not her sister. I agree she is a very sweet lady and didn't deserve all she has had to endure. Hoyer's wife comes from another family.
To all Bloggers::::::::::
What ever happened to the Apostolic Assembly Corporation of TEXAS????
Did you all forget about it...or too lazy to ask Vicente Alvarez the II? the traitor knows it all!!!!
What ever happened to the vast amount of acreage that SAnchez, Pacheco, Valaverde, Ma and of course lil Artie Espinoza, brother in law of the honorable Sanchez purchased in the Dallas, Texas area?????
What ever happened????
And with the electons coming up in 2010..with the "churning of the MUSICAL CHAIRS", in the expected fraud election.
Ni para que ayune ese dia Pastor por "que Dios elija a la MESA Directiva....ya esta programada por los "Honorables".....
Nomas cambiaran de LAS SILLAS, Y SIGUEN COLLECTANDO SUS DINEROS...
PARA PAGAR LA FIANZA DE MAFFEY...
Ya es tiempo que despierte la Asamblea y todos los PAstores, que sus diaconos estan haciendo la "cellulas" Y LAS DORCAS TRABAJANDO PARA LA FLOR DE GEORGINA, LEONA Y FRANCISCA....
que paso con la Corporacion de la Asamblea de Texas, y la compra del grande terreno..Que lo subdivieron entre los cuanados, y primos de los Honorables...o lo vendieron para pagar la corte de Maffey?????
DESPIERTA PASTOR, DIACONO Y DEJA DE JUJAR "GOLF" PRADO, AGUILAR, PACH, VALVAVERDE>
Condenan a Tafoya por robar., y que de los terrenos en Tejas???
Y la corporacion en Tejas???
Que de eso???????
Despierta Asamblea?????????
Que Dios tenga misericordia...y nos defienda!!!!!!!!!!!
Si es VERDAD;;;;;;; que Sanchez y Valverde y PACHECO, consienten el pecado que hizo Eliseo Sanzhez, con su esposa alla en Texas por el ano de 1968, en Houston, Texas, cuando la "solicitaba para los estudientes de la Universidad de esa area....
Y no permiten que los Pastores inviten a hombre hijos del Dios viviente para que prediquen la palabra de Dios, en sus pulpitos....
De la Iglesia de Mexico ni de la Apostolica Mundial Aliancia..AWA
y porque permiten que Herman Garza siga predicando porque lo que hiso en Chili????
Es uno que maneja las dos ...AA y AWA....
Y porque a el si lo reciben en los pulpitos?????
Y a Elisio Sanchez, y a Sanzhez con lo que hizo en Solana, y Tucson, y a Valverde y a Pacheco, y a Aguilar con lo que hizo en San Jose....????
Porque estan ustedes Pastores Dormidos.......?????
O tienene miedo....
Ore mas y golfe menos......
Y Dios nos va a contestar, en el Nombre de Cristo Jesus...Y removera a estos hiprocritas....lobos sin conciencia de pedir, mas y mas y mas y mas dineros........
Siempre dineros.......
Dios tenga misericordia de nosotros....Que Salgan en el nombre de Cristo Jesus....Afuera!!!!
Con tantos que escriben en estos blogs., nadie menciona a Eliseo Sanchez....y si y si y si saben....pero que miedo le tienen al Sanchez!!!!!
Wow!!! Y si concienten que HECHEN FUERA A HERMANOS PORQUE DIERON LA ALARMA DE "FRAUDE"""
QUE HIPROCRITAS SON TODOS!!!!!!
I was recalling many years back on the "BEES" that worked for the General Offices, for years and years.....
All of them gone, out of the AA...
What ever happened to THEM....????
tHEY WERE SO EXPLOITED...THEY LEFT, BECAUSE ALL THEY WERE CLASSFIED WERE "GO FORS".." GO FOR THIS, GO FOR THAT, GO THERE, DO THIS AND THIS AND DO MORE , SHINE MY SHOES, CALLL FOR VACATION AND GOLF RESERVATIONS...
CALL MY DOCTOR, CALL MY LAWYER, CALL MY GIRL "FRIDAY"...
THE SAME WILL BE WITH THESE AT THE GB OFFICES.
VICENTE ALVAREZ THE SECONDED:
1. ALEX SANTOS, 2. CARLOS BANUELOS, 3. RENA GONZALEZ, 4. NAT OCHOA DE LEYBA, 5. JULIO LEAL, 6. LUPE MARIONI, 7. CATALINA ROJAS,
8. ROBER OROS, 9. BEN BERNAL, 10. DENISE REYES AND OTHERS BENJAMIN ORTEGA, MARY ROJAS, Y LOUIE VALVADERDE...NATE PACHECO. AND OTHERS....GO FORS...
BUT WHAT YOU WILL ALL GET IS THAT
YOU WILL ALL BE "SHUNNNED AND RUN FROM, AS PEOPLE THAT HAVE CONCEIEDED SO MUCH TO THE HONORABLES., AND HAVE "ALLOWED" SO MUCH "WRONG TO BE DONE TO OUR CHURCH...." GOD CHURCH, THAT WAS FOUNDED BY PIONEERS WHO STRUGGLED AND TOILED AND PRAYED AND FASTED AND WORKED ENDLESLY WITH ARDOUR AND LOVE AND PRAYERS AND VIGILES...SO THESE "SO CALLED "HONORABLES WOULD DESTROY GOD'S CHURCH...
AND YOU WILL BE SHUNNED AND RUNNED FROM....FOREVER....
YOU WILL SEE. JUST ASK AROUND TO THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN "GOO FORS." LIKE YOU...YOU KNOW TOO MUCH...
AND HIDE TOO MUCH...
ASK JENNY HERNANDEZ, HOW SHE WAS HURT SO MUCH...AND SHE DID SO MUCH....
FOR WHAT??????
TO BE SHUNNED....ITS CRUEL BUT TRUE...
BUT........I UNDERSTAND...PERFECTLY .....YOU ARE NOT TRAINED NOR PROFESSIONAL GRADUATED FROM AN ACCREDIATED SCHOOL TO GET ANOTHER JOB...
SO I UNDERSTAND YOU CANNNOT GET ANOTHER JOB...SO PLEASE FORGIVE ME...
SO YOU SELL YOURSELF...AS "JUDAS DID....SORRY....
LOVE YOUR GOD AND LOVE YOUR CHURCH..., HONOR GOD.....
SERVE HIM AND NOT MEN!!!!
Remember what it says in Phillipians...'AND MY GOD SHALL SUPPLY ALL OF YOUR NEEDS ACCORDING TO HIS RICHES IN GLORY, THROUGH CHRIST JESUS..."
TRUST GOD AND RUN FOR YOUR LIFE.
GOD WILL PROVIDE, NOT THE "HONORABLES"
"ONLY BELIEVE...ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE". LOVE AND RESPECT YOUR CHURCH AND GOD, AND YOUR BRETHREN....love and do not betray your church...
Start a new conversation about the future of the Apostolic Assembly.
http://theapostolicquestion.blogspot.com/
The AWA posted the agenda for their July business meeting. What your thoughts on the following issues?
1. Interrelationships/Ethics
2. Modesty/Holiness Issues
3. Ministries vs. Departments
Start a new conversation:
http://theapostolicquestion.blogspot.com/
The word here in Arizona is that mr. Tafoya is upset with the AWA for two reasons.
One the AWA didn't ask him to be in charge or help with the conference coming up in July in Mesa Az.
Two he consulted a lawyer about suing the AWA for defamation of character as a result of his removal from the AWA board of directors.
My friend who is married into the Tafoya clan says mr. dictator was moping around, crying because he was ousted. That he also threatened the AWA board of directors with this lawsuit!
Sounds like the perfect man for the job on the Board of Directors of the AA.
Well i was a victim of the corruption over here in Texas. so what i did was i moved to the UPCI, now i am not saying that they dont have their problems, but they dont start with the general board. sorry to hear a lot of you going through this type of situation. But God will protect and guide those that are faithful, and he will judge the GB for making many of the body of Christ fall.
But take heed lest by any means this liberty of yours become a stumbling block to them that are weak." (1 Cor. 8:9)
We need to continue to pray for the those that have yet to speak out against what is going on, because the Lord knows that what i went through is the same thing that is going on in a lot of the other AA churches. I will pray for you my brothers and sisters in Christ i love you all, and be sure that in all things consult the Lord, ask for His guidance and be wise. Have faith...
God bless you all,
someone who is saved.
Gal. 2:2 - Yo no sabia que la AAFCJ tenia un futuro. Yo solo se y conozco el horrible pasado bajo la administracion de Pancho Santera (Sanchez).
La porquerria de "swine flu" se me hace que tuvo su origen en Rancho Cucaramonga! Quizas si, quizas no!
Any-guey, Que hay de nuevo en el "valle del chisme?"
ICB
ELIJAH AND WHAT EVER YOUR NAME IS!!!!
What??????????? you moved to the UPC???
For Heaven's sake.!!!!!!!!!!..
You have no clue what those "okies, arkies and osarks have in their hidden mind against the "lil spanish brothers and sisters>FOR GENERATIONS...
THEY CAN AND DO ALL SINS, AND JUST "PRAY THROUGH" JUST ASK THE WOLF..AND THE MARIETTA!!!
It's in their gens and you cannot take it away from their "survivarl tacitcs to frawn against the "lil mexicans and their kin."
Now that we have an education and are"trained to pay mega bucks in tithies and offering, and we have degrees, now "THEY" WANT US....
WHAT A JOKE...AND YOU FELL FOR IT???????????!!!!!!!!..
ALWAYS WITH "THUS SAIDITH THE LORD, AND POMPODORES HAIR DOS THAT ARE SO FICTITOUS., and so hiprocritacal...
What a joke, again I say...
But doncha you forget "they are White, and you are "brown" and now
"they receive you"...
The reason they act that way with us is because 'THEY' have their deep rooted insecurities....and project it to us by "acting superior" to US!!!!
YOU MUST BE A "JOHNNY COME LATELY"..
Because believe me THIS STRENCH HAS BEEN AROUND FOR A "LONG TIME", AND WHERE IN THE WORLD HAVE YOU BEEEN???????
If you think the AA is "bad" which is "TRUE" THAT THE "HONORABALES ARE CORRUPT....
WELL AT LEAST THEY ARE "MEXICAN LIKE US"...
But 'THEY' ARE WANNA BE SELF RIGHTEOUS....
"MAN MADE DRESS CODES, AND THOSE "HIDEOUS" SUPERFICIAL HAIRDOS FOR "WOMEN' AND THOSE "CULT DRESSES" AND THE "MARY JANE ROUND SHOES"., AND YOU WENT THERE???????????!!!!!!!!!!!
BROTHER OR SISTER WAKE UP AND "OPEN YOUR EYES",
AND "THEIR' FOREVER "RAISING FUND", FOR THE "GYMNASIUM BUILDING FUND...."
MY DEAR BROTHER "FORM YOUR "OWN" CORPORATION!!!
ITS EASY JUST ASK SANCHEZ, PA AND VA AND MA...
MAY THE LORD SAVE US ALL!!!!
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You are a true dumbass!!! You like to play the poor little Mexican card? The UPC does more for their hispanic Pastors than the AA does for their Hispanic Pastoral Body.I have spoken with Spanish Pastors in the UPC who find it ridiculous that the AA wants to take churches that local Pastors built.
The UPC does not Gain much money through their hispanic churches. They look for Spanish Pastors so they can reach they hispanic population not to take their money. What you need to do is go to a UPC church so you can be delivered from your dumbass spirit.
You are just another Apostolic who feels inferior to white folks. I have an idea, a better place for an inferior hispanic like yourself is to stay under AA. Viva tithes of tithes. Better yet, why not go back Mexico and make a better life for yourself. oops I forgot, Mexico cannot control the Cartells and provide a good life for their citizens.
@LET ME TELL YOU WHAT'S NEXT!
and what makes you think that i am mexican? i never once said what race i belong too. i thank God that He has given me the ability to speak both languages so that i can communicate and be the official translator of three churches. the UPC that i go to has three services, two in english and one in spanish. and what you say about it being in their "genes" is really not scriptural.
"Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new."
2 Corinthians 5:17
and as for you saying that they just pray through any sin let me give you another scripture.
"13Is any one of you in trouble? He should pray. Is anyone happy? Let him sing songs of praise. 14Is any one of you sick? He should call the elders of the church to pray over him and anoint him with oil in the name of the Lord. 15And the prayer offered in faith will make the sick person well; the Lord will raise him up. If he has sinned, he will be forgiven. 16Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous man is powerful and effective.
17Elijah was a man just like us. He prayed earnestly that it would not rain, and it did not rain on the land for three and a half years. 18Again he prayed, and the heavens gave rain, and the earth produced its crops. 19My brothers, if one of you should wander from the truth and someone should bring him back, 20remember this: Whoever turns a sinner from the error of his way will save him from death and cover over a multitude of sins."
James 5:13-20
but by the way i am mexican, but if you saw me you wouldnt think i was, because i am not dark skinned, if i have learned anything is not to judge others by the color of their skin, how about looking at others through Gods eyes? try it. i guarantee you will see everything a lot different.
God bless you and may the LORD change the way you think, because first it is very unchristian and ignorant. and second you are called a christian for a reason and that is to walk and talk and BE like Christ.
To all bloggers:
This is in regards to the blogger by the name "let me tell you whats next/Thought for the day/so it did/and allhis many other names, this brother is a coward who is trying to misleard the youth.
Please COWARD get off our blog!
You are worthless, with all your CACA!
AWA: "AFTER WORLD ADVANGERS'!
Why are you using "Apostolic World Alliance" initials?
HOW DARE YOU!!!!!
USING FOWL LANGUAGE ON BLOGGERS.
THIS BLOGS ARE NOT YOURS!!!
"YOU JOHNNY COME LATELY"!!!!!
"Discouraging the Youth?"
Why? because The youth needs to know that the "Honorables" are false.....Just like you....!!!!
The "blogs" are "not yours" Johnny come lately...
May the Lord rebuke you.
Funeral Services for PIONEER SISTER YOLANDA PANTAGES, will be held this
Friday, May 15th., at 11 a.m. at
the smaller chapel on Gate 17, off
of Workman Mill Road near Beverly
Boulevard at Rose Hills Cemetery in
Whittier, California.
Sister Pantages together with her husband Reverend David Pantages were
"founders" of the church "Templo La Hermosa first in East Los Angeles and then at 701 South Ferris avenue,
here in Los Angeles.
When they Pastored Templo La Hermosa, they were "ousted" by Brother Antonio Nava, who then himself "took Over" and "renamed"
"Templo La Hermosa" to "El Siloe" at the same address at 701 South Ferris avenue here in L. A.
(NOW THIS CHURCH IS EMPTY)!
Reverend and Sister Pantages years later pastored the church in West Whittier and Reverend Pantages last
pastorship was in Fresno.
Our deepest prayers go to Reverend and Sister Pantages sons and daughter.
David, Albert, Johnny, Nate, Paul and Sylvia Lerma. Peter their second son is also with his parents in Paradise.
This family is to be "respected" and admired and acknowledged for "all they suffered" for the early work of the Lord.
The Pantages family "pioneers" of the work here in California are like so "many of the families" of the older pioneers that are "shunned and forgotten", but Great will be "their reward" in Heaven.
Our prayers are every day for God's forgiveness.
This is why the AA is in the situation it is now in!!!!
Saluatations in Jesus Name.
LOS SERVICIOS FUNEBRES para
la que en vida fue LA HERMANA
YOLANDA PANTAGES, PIONERA DE
LA OBRA DE DIOS.
Seran en el cemeterio Rose Hills en Whittier
este Viernes Mayo 15 a las
11 a.m. en la capilla de la puerta
#17, sobre la Calle Workman Mill
Road en Whittier, aqui en California.
Nuestra hermana Pionera Yolanda
juntamente con su esposo Reverendo
David Pantages, fueron pioneros
y fundadores de "De El Templo La
Hermosa" primero en el Este de aqui en Los Angeles.
Y luego compraron el Templo y le nombraron "Templo la Hermosa"..
El Pastor Antonio Nava "LES QUITO" el templo, LA HERMOSA" y El mismo...tomo Ese Templo y le nombro "El Siloe", cambiandose de
otra area de Los Angeles.
ASI OBRABA EL HERMANO NAVA.
"LO QUE QUERIA ......"QUERIA"....
Despues el Pastor David Pantages fue pastor en "Jim Town" que ahora es "West Whittier" y su ultimo
Pastorado de los Hermanos Pantages
fue en la ciudad de Fresno, aqui en California.
Nosotros debemos "muchismo" a esa familia Pantages, quien fueron "parte de los "pioneros" de la Asamblea Apostolica.
Esta familia como muchas de los "pioneros" son "ignorados, y despreciados por tanto "ORGULLO" y
"inseguridad' propia...
Sus familias son una "AMENASAS" a la
MESA Directiva. Pero asi SE HARA, DESAFORTUNADAMENTE....
tambien con los suyos.DE LA MESA DIRECTIVA.....a su tiempo, todo se paga.
Que lastima Y TODOS que pensamos "ir al mismo cielo"...???????
Nuestras oraciones son elevadas a nuestro Gran Dios por los hijos de
Nuestros Hermanos Pantages..
David Jr., Albert, Johnny, Nate, Paul y hija Sylvia Lerma..
Uno de sus hijos Peter, ya descansa en el Senor con sus Padres...
Que Dios tenga misericordia de nuestra Iglesia y remueva todo lo "malo", en el nombre de Cristo.
POR ESO ESTA LA ASAMBLEA COMO ESTA!!!
"CON ESTO CONOCEREIS CON SON "MIS DISCIPULOS"....QUE OS AMEIS LOS UNOS A LOS OTROS."
NO HAY :AMOR" NO HAY NADA!!!!!
Nuestro deber es repaldar a la familia Pantages......
Gracias!!!
ROSE HILLS MEMORIAL CEMETERY
"SUNSHINE CHAPEL"....
GATE #17..
VIERNES MAYO 15, A LAS 11 A.M.
EN WHITTIER, CALIFORNIA.
(1 562) 699-0921
Enoch-Elijah:
It most certainly has nothing to do with the "color of your skin"..
Iam very fair too, and certainly have green eyes and light light hair. It has to do with "your genes your ancestors, your ethnicity. Not with "color"..
You may get from some Apache ancestor a dark skin child. But maybe not.
The UPC roots are "racists" that is why many Hispanic Pastors, that will NEVER BE OWNERS, AS THEY ARE NOT OF THE CHURCH PROPERTIES OF THE AA.. AT LEAST THE AA IS A CORPORATION.
But with the UPC the 'MASSA' OWNS ALL. OFFERING, PROPERTY AND EVEN THE CARPET AND BENCHES.
SO DO NOT TELL ME THE HISPANIC PASTORS HAVE A "VOICE"
THE HISPANIC MINISTERS, PASTORS WILL "NEVVVVVA BE IN THE GENERAL BOARD OF THE UPC....NEVVVVA GENERAL SUPERINTENDENT....OR IN THE NATIONAL BOARD, WHERE HANEY IS...
HIS FATHER CLYDE HANEY AND SIS OLIVE, WERE SO RACISTS. GOD REST THEIR SOULS. IT WAS STRICTLY 'FORBIDDEN FOR THE "ANGLOS, OZARKS OKIES, ARKIES TO "DATE THE "LIL SPANISH BRETHREN." AT THE APOSTOLIC BIBLE COLLEGE IN STOCKTON.
OH BUT SURELY THE SISTER THAT "MADE AND COOKED OVER 1,000.00 HOME MADE "BURRITOS" WAS "SURELY APPRECIATED, FOR THE "FOREVER BUILDING FUND." OF THE UPC IN STICKTON..
ASK "CHICANO RAMIREZ...HE ENDURED ALOT AND ALL HIS "LOT"...
GOODNIGHT.....MAY THE LORD "OPEN YOUR EYES......
SO DO NOT "TRY TO TELL ME THAT "THEY ARE NOW OKIE, DOKIE>''
ITS ONLY FOR "THEIR MONEY CONVIENCE!!!
YOU WILL ALWAYS BE IN "GO FORS CATEGORY.....
SURE I KNEW YOU WERE OF MEXICAN DESCENT....YOUR ACCENT "CAME RIGHT THROUGH.....
NO MATTER WHAT COLOR YOUR SKIN IS....
@ Let me tell you whats next!
May the Lord Jesus Christ rebuke the mentality that is between your ears. the way you talk and the things that come out of your mouth are not of a christian, much less of someone who was born again.
Para todos los miembros de la Asamblea Apostolica y de la Iglesia de Mexico.
Estando en otros blogs de el internet., me encontre una lista de cantos muy larga de cantos Apostolicos que fueron compuestos por diferentes autores Apostolicos.
Y ahora esta recibiendo este dinero en efectivo un hombre que no conosco que dice que su nombre es Larry de nuevo Mexico.
Estos cantos no son de ese hombre Larry Rios. Si el esta recibiendo dinero con un saxaphone desabrido, que parrece que estamos en un veliorio, sin nada de inspiracion.
Los autores de estos himnos deben de recivir ese dinero. Estos cantos son de La Asamblea Apostolica y la Iglesia de Mexico..y no de ese hombre Rios de Nuevo Mexico.
No se pueden grabar himnos asi. Se le debe de dar reconocimiento al autor, y si ya el autor murio, entonces esos dineros de esos cantos son parte de el "Estate" de la familia de el autor que compuso esos himnos. y no de ese hombre Rios!
Este hombre Rios se esta haciendo rico con nuestros cantos, y ese hombre ni aun va a ninguna iglesia Apostolica!
Dice ese hombre Rios, que el hermano Daniel Sanchez, Presidente de la Asamblea Apostolica y el hermano Felix Gaxiola le dieron permiso a ese hombre Rios de Nuevo Mexico..
para grabar y vender esos cantos Apostolicos...
Pues no debe de ser asi...Porque los hermanos autores, y sus familias...son los duenos de esos Himnos Apostolicos.
Tambien otros trinitarios se han hecho ricos con nuestros himnos Apostolicos...
Que triste..Porque no es para la obra de Dios sino para ellos enriqueserse!
Ya debe de parar esto ahora mismo.!
Los dineros de esos cantos son de La Asamblea y de la Iglesia de Mexico, y no de ese hombre Rios, de Nuevo Mexico.
Que el no asiste a ninguna Iglesia Apostolica. Ni de la Asamblea ni de Mexico.!,
segun me dicen los hermanos de Nuevo Mexico.
No ordene esos cantos de ese hombre Rios. Gracias. No son de el , son de la Asamblea y de la Iglesia de Mexico...
Y DE LOS AUTORES DE ESOS HIMNOS, Y DE SUS FAMILIAS!
NI LOS ESTATOS "LEGALES DE ESAS FAMILIAS!!!
Dios le bendiga...
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Translation:
To all bloggers.
Reading through some of the blogs in the internet.
I came across something odd.
There is a very long list of our Apostolic Assembly songs, and of the Iglesia de Mexico, that were composed by brethren of the Apostolic Faith.,
and do not belong to anyone to make money., and not give credit to the author, or to the family of the author,
if the author is now gone with the Lord.
These songs are many..
And someone had told me about them, because they are played in a very extremly "melancoly" tone, as if you are at a funeral with alot of grief.
These songs were composed to be joyful and happy. but apparently they are play by some ofF tone saxophone and really bad.
But this man Rios is GRABBING in the money of our songs of the
Apostolic Assembly and the Iglesia de Mexico.
In the page this man Rios, that we do not know, says that President Sanchez of the Apostolic Assembly and also the President of the Iglesia de Mexico has given this man Rios the go ahead to play and sell these songs.
Well this songs, belong to the Apostolic Assembly legacy and to the Iglesia de Mexico, and most of all to the author and their families or rather to the author's Estate!
Please do not patronize this piracy. This songs do not belong to this man Rios. Who is making alot of money from the AA songs and the Iglesia de Mexico song writers.
This is a shame. Many trinitarians have also become "rich" with our songs, from our songs writers.
Please heed to this.
Thank you and honor the memory of those song writers that have "gone beyond, but their spouses and children "are still" the rightful recipiants of the monies of these songs that this many Rios has in mass production.
The Brethren from New Mexico told us that this man Rios does not attend any Apostolic Church what so ever., any more.
Apparently he did but has not for years. But the songs.....sure come in handy for the monies...
These monies do not belong to him. These monies are part of the AA Iglesia de Mexico and the heirs of the Apostolic Song writers...AND TO THIER ESTATES!!!NOT TO HIM AND HIS FAMILY.
Thank you for honoring the memory of the "Apostolic Song writers and to their families.
Do not patronize this man!and his money scam. He is not the author, nor owner of these apostolic songs....
With no benefits to the Apostolic Assembly nor the Iglesia de Mexico nor especially TO THE SONGS WRITERS FAMILIES..NOR TO THE FAMILIES ESTATE...NOR DOES HE HONOR THAT SONG WRITER'S FAMILY's LEGAL RIGHTS!!
Greetings in Jesus Name:
Thank you!
To: Being here and there.
So sorry to inform you that unless you register the songs through the proper public music license companies, you could never win in a court of law.
FYI, I work as a sound engineer in many major Hollywood studios. I work with some of the biggest stars in the music industry.
But it was a very interesting thought. Normally you can use someone else's songs as long you re-record the songs using your own rearrangement and musicians. In other words the song is completely recorded all over again and is not similar in arrangement, sound and style.
That is how Michael Jackson is able to retain a hold on the Sony music library of the Beatles. Because it is the original recordings that cannot be duplicated or even played on the air without having to pay money back to Michael Jackson.
It's complicated, but if you want more, I can tell you more.
Sorry to disappoint you!
As a person who is starting a mission church, Bro. Rios recordings have come as a blessing.
here and there says those songs belong to this and that author,
When these song writers were inspired, by the holy ghost, they did not sign a contract with heaven to get royalties, there should be a recognition sure.
Whether Bro. Rios is apostolic or not, does not matter, the Lord has placed this work in the heart of a believer, what if a record producer from the world.. or some really money hungry big church. uh. like.. those that sell there preachings or have the 'mando' monopoly at the conventions to sell all recording/preachings..
I have been to Bro. Rios site, and those cd's can be ordered,they use the money to help. they can be used freely at church, (which is a blessing to missions and churches with no music)
God Bless You Bro. Rios and wife.
Hey can anybody from Arizona confirm that Steve Montenegro, the Arizona state representative / National youth VP / Assistant pastor is having a shotgun wedding this weekend.
We heard he is having a hush hush, quick wedding this saturday in surprise, arizona, and that his dad, who is the pastor, IS NOT saying anything and covering the whole thing up.
Anybody know anything about that?
A shot gun wedding? This is a very interesting development. In a traditional sense, a shot gun wedding means that sexual activity has occured between a couple and the possibility of a pregnancy exists.
But if that were the case, then it would mean that the Rev. Montenegro committed a sin.
Also, it would mean that Rev. Montenegro was acting like a liberal and not the republican conservative with their values.
We will be looking into this matter.
Bro Steve Montenegro and fiancee have been planning wedding since late spring of last year, and this date has been set for some time now. These rumors are false. Please discount the above comments as purely gossip.
For Being here and There
This person you call this man Rios, which you also state you do not know, has been a member of the Apostolic Assembly all his life. You need to know a person before you open your UNGODLY mouth to talk about a person. I, being a member of the Apostolic church, knows that Bro. Rios is the son of an Apostolic Pastor that the Lord already called on him to be in heaven. The son of a minister that was an Elder and Bishop of the States of New Mexico and Colorado for many years.
Perhaps we need to let those brothers that composed these beautiful songs that there is a person that is here today and there tomorrow who pretends to be Apostolic, that says that the songs that were composed and inspired by God are only good for funerals.
The songs listed in the internet are for people that would like to hear these songs and for those who would like a copy can get one at no profits To Bro. Rios. Those who have a computer can listen to these songs and do not need to buy. Hundreds of CDs have been sent to brothers in Mexico and the USA for FREE. You have no knowledge of the cost Brother Rios has had to suffer to make this songs available at no profit to him.
You seem to speak through the wrong end of your body. Surely it is not through your mouth.
What knowledge do you pretend to have as to the emails Bro. Rios has received from the President of the Apostolic Church in Mexico as well as the President of the Apostolic Church in the USA? Why don't you email them and get the truth from them.
I am amazed that you are such an idiot that did not pay attention to Bro. Rios web site where he lists the name of the songs and the authors. And for your little idiotic brain and for your knowledge, he has not made a dime of profit.
You state that this songs were composed to be joyful and happy. You are obviously an idiot with no background in music. I have heard and do hear these recordings every day and the instrument he plays is NOT off tune. I myself, having play all my life in the Apostlic Church an instrument and at New Mexico State University know when an instrument is off tune.
My question to you is, What ministry has God given you? The only ministry I see on you is the Ministry of Mitotero, Chirinolero y Mentiroso and not to mention criticón which are not ministies that God has given you. Those only come from the devil.
Arrepientete y quitate de ser criticón de personas que ni conoces.
You may not like the oldies and there are many that continously email Bro. Rios by the thousands monthly to keep up his good work. Your type of work de criticar is not needed in the Apostolic Church.
Next time speak through your mouth and not through the other end.
De parte de uno que Siempre Amaré Esa Cruz.
In case you did not know, an Oldie.
Thank you curiosity!!
We live down the street
from the Rios.
The truth is that again
we can see the AA being
scammed!!
First Pacheco with cars,
and now Larry that resembles
ET!!!!
Just look at his face.
Posting all his degrees in
the blogs only demonstrates
ALL HIS INSECURITIES HE ALWAYS
HAS HAD...BECAUSE OF THAT "ET"
FACE!
Its a real issue, I grew up
with him and all his sibblings.
Quite a scammer..
Sure he may say ,"he is giving
the "oldies and goodies apostolic
songs away...But not the Larry
that we know!! He never gives
anything away, unless he "scams"
people, him and his wife that wears,
shorts , short hair and pants.
Just see the picture in their
WEB page...
Oh I have no problems with that
but for such legalists that
they try to be...what a scam.
Yes, he was in the insurance
company just ask around,
same thing scam..
They wanted to live some where
else, but no one else would
have them.
The Pastors in every church in New Mexico,
especially here in Cruces, know the Rios to have always being
"trouble makers"..
Always trying
to "run" the church...
"Poor Pastors" Just ask the Huertas and the Dominguez etc.,
So they do not congreate any
where, but sure are using
their "garage space" to produce
"them mega bucks C. D.
The Rios say that "they give the songs away." Then why is there in their Web page.. that he "gives them
away. Why is there in his Web\Page. The logos for 'VISA\AND MASTER CHARGE"
He has fooled our dear friend
Bishop President Sanchez, and our
friend from La Iglesia de Mexico
Felix Gaxiola.
Bishop Sanchez and Gaxiola, think like everyone
else that this songs are being
"preserved" for the sweetness,
kindness and christian gesture.
of the Rios' kindness. Of the
"Old Beautiful Aposotlic Songs."
Ha! that would be great, but it
for the money scam, like the
Pacheco, and Molina car scam..
Even our dear sister Church
The United Pentecostal Church,
was taken like the AA and la
Iglesia de Mexico, on that
car scam!!!
The Rios "could care less "about
the Apostolic Assembly.
For years
they have not attended any services
of the AA. You want "trouble"?and big time....!!
hang with them.
His mother Maria used to raise
chickens to get the eggs to make
scams on people..GET THE "DRIFT" YOU WILL IF YOU LIVE HERE IN CRUZES!
.His father \would visit the "lonely sisters",
from the church and shock them.
It was a total mess.
Now some one wrote on the blogs,
that Larry, who ever that man is
they say. Well I will tell you,
he would not go through all the
trouble of working so hard as
his money hungry wife writes
in the WEB page...
The family of Bishop Salazar, that is getting "royalties" from their
father's C. D. should keep a
very "close eye" on those sales...
Because the Rios may say they sold
100 on the VISA and MASTER Card,
but in REALITY the sale may be
200 or more.
There is no "honesty in those
people. The Rios will surely
use you and your money real good.
AND WILL SELL "SNOW TO THE ESKIMOS".
This is not fair, because eventhough as someone wrote that
he, the blogger, is an expert in sales of
"recording, and music."and to ask him for information...
Well many of the "Old Timer's
song writer children are quite
educated and in the position to
take this to a higher level in
question. Especially with the
IRS and with sales permit.
There is such thing as fairness,
christian ethics and morals.
The Bible states "No debas a
nadie Nada.!!! A que honora
honora!!!"
Brother Marical de la Cruz grandchildren are in the San Diego area. Bishop President Sanchez,
is very good friends with Sister
Liz Hernandez,and her husband Brother Steve Hernandez.
Sister Liz is granddaugher of Brother Marcial de la Cruz who
composed so many of the Old Apostolic wonderful songs.
The majority of the Himnos de El Himnario de Consolacion.
Sister Hernandez sisters and brothers, Grandchildren of Brother
Marcial de la Cruz,
Are Pricila Castro Zaragosa, Esther, Esperanza, Sarah and their brothers Ray and Tony.
How come their address is not listed in the VISA and Master Card section of the Rios Web page?
So that Brother Marcial de la Cruz grandchildren can get those "royalities",
as the other family is getting, of Brother Salazar?
All should be done in fairness!!
Apparently the Rios do not know
that the Himnario de Consolation
songs have been copyrighted.
Since the Rios do not attend
the AA churches, they "Hate" the
churches, they have told me
themselves, for years, have been
a "thorn in the flesh' with their
"complete and total insecurities"..
The Himnario reads as follow:
C*COPYRIGHT 1972.
Este himnario es propiedad "exclusive de la Asamblea Apostolica de la Fe en Cristo Jesus.
Se reservan "todos" los derechos que le corresponden con arrego a la ley de propiedad.
Esto es intelectual, muscical o
grabacion, y los convenios sobre esta materia celebrados por los
Estados Unidos de Norte America con otras naciones.
Impreso en Estados Unidos de
Norte America,
Printed in U.S.A.
Secretaria de Educacion Cristiana
10807 Laurel street.Rancho Cucamonga, CA 91730
Bishop Jose Ortega and his son
Benjamin Ortega, recorded all and more of the "Oldies and great Apostolic songs.
But they surely did not scam the brothers and sisters of the AA
nor Mexico.
Pastor Benjamin Ortega is not a scammer.
The song writers's of the Apostolic songs and Arnulfo Velasquez from the San Diego area
previous Director of El Coro del Monte and the El Monte Church worked,
who strived hard....
for these recordings. Now the Rios, are scamming again.
Well the IRS must be told.
And write to Santa Fe, the capital.
These songs are definately
copyrighted, and the heirs or Estate of the Song writer's
are due processed in this.
Dispierta.....Bloggers..
Defend your rights!
Stop being scammed.
We are sure Bishop Sanchez and Bishop Gaxiola do not know that
their is a order page on the Rios Web page...With VISA and MASTER CARD!!!
And the Rios are given them away to the "shut in"....what "shut in"
all he does is "golf" do you think he has time for the "shut in"...
The only time he does is get up at 5 a.m. every morning for "T" Time...
And to "blow on that horn", in the same key for each song with no change of timing and totally melancholy, mediocre.
Some people just are so obsessed into themselves they do not have
any remorse when they do people
in....Scammers!!
To: THE TRUTH FROM NEW MEXICO AND TO CURIOUSITY,
First of all some of you bloggers sound like very bitter Apostolic
people.
I also knew the Rios Family very well, and I also lived very close to them.
The man I am defending did not have an Insurance Business, but he does have a Web Site called IHOP or Cantos Apostolicos. Bro. Larry is a very good musician and he is very educated. He is very intelligent.His Parents made sure that all their kids knew how to play an instrument, and they all play an instrument. The purpose of the IHOP Web Site or Cantos Apostolicos was so that the new Apostolic generation would not forget the Apostolic Songs and also for the home bound hermanos.
I am not Bro. Larry's son in law. Bro. Larry has 2 sons no daughters.
I am 100 percent certain that there is no scamming. I also know Bro. Marcaial de la Cruz, grandchildren. I am friends with Steve, and Liz Hernandez.
So what if Bro. Larry gets up at 5 AM to play golf. He is retired and can play as much as he wants to.
I also knew Sister Maria. There was no scamming on chicken eggs. The Pastors then, did not have the luxury that Pastors have now a days. There were days when the Rios family did not have anything to eat and yes they would eat eggs, sometimes for 1 week or 2 weeks, because that was all they had to eat.
So please I know more about the Rios Family and the History of New Mexico. I also know Bro. Huerta, and Bro. Domingues.
So I rebuke you in Jesus Name for all those false accusations.
A true Apostolic
TO The truth from NM and Curiosity:
You guys are a mere reflection of supidity and ignorance. The Rios family are educated people unlike you two! What Larry is doing has nothing to do with scamming unlike the GBers!
I found info on Larry's website:
(HOP-NM is a non-profit 501(c)(3) entity. We appreciate your financial support. Contributions are tax deductible. They help us provide free (compact disks) CDs to the HOMEBOUND.)
You two idiots have any idea what this means? I DIDN'T THINK SO!
Thanks, Chumina!
To Chumina:
I know who this folks are and there father gave his everything for the first church of Cruces. He founded this church and raised an awesome family, all of them educated! Very talented and not presumptous at all.
It is because of men like him that the AA was enriched. It is sad that men like Sanchez, Pacheco, Aguilar, Espinosa, Valverde, are bringing down without regard.
Esther Rios and trophy man:
Well if you do know the heirs of brother Marcial de la Cruz, Liz, Steve, Pricilla Zaragosa, Esther Esperanza, Raymond and Tony, and Sister Herrera, and E.M. Cota and Bishop Ortega, and Bishop Nava, and Bishop Maclovio Gaxiola and Epiminio Sesma, and Arnolfo Velasquez, director of the Church of El Monte church in California.
And Brother Arrieta, from Juarez, and
Pastor Santos Rodriguez, Bishop Manuel Vizcarra, Brother Filimon Zaragosa, Bishop Efrain Valverde and, Bishop F.F. LLorente, Bishop Manuel Esquievel, Sister Lita Alvarez, Sister Nellie Rangel, Sister Margarita Chavez and many other.,
If you do know their names and their "heirs" then add them to the list as you did of our wonderful Bishop Lorenzo Salazar and have The song writers and their heir receive the "royalties" due to them.
This is from the monies that you receive the monies from the C.D's you sell. On the Visa Card and the Master Card!
Don't white wash yourselves. You sound as if the AA has no degreed people. But we are not "insecured" to post and brag., since all you have to do is listen for 5 minutes to Larry and Esther, and see their picture to see the "level of their education>"!
Face it they have not attended the Apostolic Church for years, and want to live off the "coat tails of their father"., who wasn't as you say of "no reproach" believe me..
He sure WAS....of reproach!
This family is total disfused and
dysfunctional "run for your lives,"
We sure have!!!!
or they will totally misinterpret
your words. This is exactly why they are known to be "totally dysfunctional.!
Selling anything they can
Quit bragging, and white washing your selves. Remember you can take the "creature" out of the ranch, but you cannot take the "ranch" out of the creature.
What do you expect? ....we know them very good, more than you trophy man unless you are them?
The royalities of those songs, as we know them "old Apostolic Assembly songs, are not the Rios".
They are 'COPYRIGHTED' AS "property of the Apostolic Assembly of the Faith in Christ Jesus Incorporated..
If the Rios have a "non profit", Wow, they really know how to sock it to us in the Assembly.
But remember people like them with no ethics, nor morals, low class, have "no respect for the property of others" and "the song writers" heirs...
What do the Rios know about ethics...
What is the use of getting a degree?
If talking to them for 5 minutes, you find out their level of reading...
But the Rios are sure CUNNING, and coniving...KNow how to make Bucks, on some else's gifts...
But the "sad" reality is that they
do it in the "NAME" of the "SHUT IN" and sad people..
Anything for money..
The next thing they will do is get into the "sale of veils"..and "candy apples."
ha.....through the Visa and Master Card!!!!!
The NERVE. THEY HAVE NO SHAME.!!
These are the type of people, that have "never been seen", or heard off in the Church...Flying under the "radar"..
But with no scruples!!!
But if the "bloggers" had not told us....about their Web Page...
I would have never seen their picture in their Web page. The woman in "pants"., to show all the Apostolic Churches, and the women....she is different, and doesn't give a heck!!!
But the poor things are in such dire need of money.. That they "hit it right on the nail".
Lets scam the Apostolic Assembly..
People.
Sell snow to the Eskimos...!!!!
"Sell the "Oldies Apostolic to the Apostolics., " when we sing them in our congregations...and this is
equivilent to selling "SNOW TO THE ESKIMOS....!!!
But the tooting of the horn,hum drum., in the same "key" as Larry does...
Is that what you call?
Esther a talented musician
but you do not know the difference.
PLEASE!!!
The need for money must be
very strong!
Especially here in Cruces!!!
The 800 number for the IRS is 1-800-829-4477.
They love to have "reports"..
Well done faithful Brethren of the Apostolic Assembly!!! and to the EFFORTS AND MEMORY OF OUR Song Writers AND THEIR HEIRS!
The Bible states, "What is due is
due to the "rightful "song writer "dues" owner" song writers...
We have had enough "denials"
and "scams". Wake up..
Chumina (Esther) Trophyman larry
For goodness sake!!!
So you have a non profit?
how sneaky you still are.
We not surprized, because
we have known all your
"schemes" for centuries.!!
Reading that you are finally
"caught up" on your own Web.,
(ENTANGLEMENT)..."your web page"
Finally.
You are still trying to "get
rich" on people's hard
earned money?
Your business is (HOP NM;
You mean "HUNT" OPPORTUNISTIC
PROJECTS?!!!! IN NEW MEXICO?
But now you have gone "syberspaced?
The Nerve!!
On April 24,2009, your blog
at 10:22 AM
You are "talking and WRITING "against" the
THE GENERAL BOARD,
You write that the General Board
did so much "harm" to Bishop Torres.
And now tonight you are
"running down the ones"
that have written against
the General Board!!!
Now we can believe what the "other blogger said "how dysfuntional
you both are"....
The GB must know that
you are "scammming" all the
songs writers and their heirs., and also "scammming" the Assembly
because those "Old Apostlic
Songs have been "copyrighted"
the entire book of "Cantos de
Consolacion."
You both have "No" legal rights
to those songs.They do not
belong to you. And YET YOUR
ARE MAKING PROFITS, BIG TIME
IN THE NAME OF "DONATIONS" TO THE
SHUT IN....!!!
WOW! THE NERVE!!!
Ethically and morally...
And theologically...
You two have "no shame"
So that shows ..really how little
education can be "measured" on
your account.
THE NERVE!!!!
Providing payment to Bishop Salazar's family was good.
But believe us you would have
"not gotten away" with it from
them...it WAS "RIGHTFULLY THEIRS"
"They" should keep a "good count"
of the sales of their Father's
because those songs are priceless
and wonderful.
"They" say that he never made a
"cent" on any of his songs.
BUT YOU ARE ARE
like the old cliche goes:
"NO ONE KNOWS FOR WHOM THEY WORK".
WOW AGAIN AND AGAIN..
But they better keep a close
check on you "chumina" and
your trophy man!!!!
If your non profit is named.
(HOP NM:)
interpreted..."HUNT OPPORTUNISTICS
PROJECTS"
All the heirs of the Apostolic
Writers are to be aware...
Those "songs are your inheritance and your "royalties" should bepaid to you also!!
Chumina and Trophy man?
What do you want to be the "Gaithers?
The Gaithers are "gifted" they
write their "own songs and write their own music."
And work on "their own"
Not others...without giving
them "royalties".
You should spend more time
praying and asking God for
forgiveness, instead of T timing
out there. The sun is "hot enough"!
Why are you wasting
all this time on the
The Rios?
Just e-mail the
General Board and tell
them that the Apostolic
Assembly is not receiving
the monies that are
lawfully the Apostolic
Assembly on the "Reproducing
and Sales of the Apostolic
Old time songs.
That the Rios are "faking it"
that it is to "maintain and
preserve the "Oldies Songs"..
That it is for the "pockets\
of the Rios."
That the Rios have "not attended
any Apostolic Assembly Church
for years...And that they
surely
are making profit on the AA
songs...
That the Rios have a NON-PROFIT
business...for "their own pockets"
And are making money on the
rights of the Old Songs.,
written by Apostolic Song
writers., and that the
Heirs of only one song
writer is receiving any
royalties.
That the family of Brother
Marcial de La Cruz, and all
the rest in the song book
of Los Cantos de Consolacion.,
are not included in the sales
of the purchases in the Web\page of the Rios.,
WITH THE VISA CARD AND MASTER CARD!
WE SENT AN e-MAIL TO BISHOP
SANCHEZ, BISHOP VALVERDE AND BISHOP EDDIE PACHECO..
We are sure they are not aware
of the "other families of the
other song writers that are
not included their Names,
adddress to send their monies
of the songs sold by the Rios.!
Thank you.
TRUTH FROM NEWMEXICO, keep
this situation in your
prayers, as we are also
doing.
I agree with several of the bloggers
that are "conscious" and alert.
That it is 'great to keep those
wonderful songs in tune and in
our homes and cars and speically
for us the youth. But I work
for a law firm., and priority
of "due process" is to the one
holding the "copyrights".
Which in this case is the
Apostolic Assembly, our church.
And then of course the heirs
or Estate of the song writer's
families...
If you wish to call the phone
number of the AA is (909) 987-3013.
Protect your church., and the
memory of our song writers...
Many blessings from the Lord will
be yours.
The Aguilars are the best song writers and song producers in the history of the apostolic assembly!
Okay, so where can one find this "old timey" AA songs? Can someone please post the website. I love the oldies.
As for Sanchez and his cronies I'm sure they're all over it already! If it smells of money to be had they'll pick right up on it. I mean how else will they buy those thousand $$$ suits! Anyone know what's going on with the gb lately, who are they currently scamming?
No matter what - Bro. Lorenzo Salazar was the best loved AA President ever! Sanchez doesn't even come close to a second best.
Besides Llorente, Nava, the greatly beloved Lorenzo Salazar, Baldemar and the current infamous one, who were the other presidents? AA historians?
So let's rate them and vote:
I vote
#1 Llorente - cause he was the church founder
#2 Lorenzo Salazar - beloved, kind, great composer and singer, THE PEOPLES' PRESIDENT
#3 Baldemar - just cause he's a Texan, smart
#4 Nava - a pioneer, but been hearing too many comments of tyranny
#Last Sanchez - infamous, too many wrongdoings to mention
Camino Voy, I second that comment about Lorenzo Salazar .
All of you that keep writing all these names .. So and so is related to so and so.......
Why don't you guy's go work for the LA Times.
To Caminando Voy
Where have you been. You left out 2 of our Presidents.
That tell me you are not APOSTOLIC
Chumina
TO THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE.
Read the following email from Bro. Dan Sanchez Brother Ríos,
¡PdC!
Thank you very much for this update, especially for the way the people of God are responding to your vision. Without a doubt, you have undertaken to keep alive a very important part of our legacy, as song has been a very integral part of our apostolic heritage. And this would not happen without passion. I am blessed with this report, but especially with the work you are doing. Keep up the banner and don't get discouraged because some don't appreciate it.
God Bless
dgsánchez
hez to Bro. Larry Rios
TO CAMINANDO VOY,
Your posts proves to me that you do not know the Apostolic History.
You did not mentioned 2 of our presidents. Do you know who they are??
I do.
Okay Chumina so apparently you didn't read my post where I said
"Besides Llorente, Nava, the greatly beloved Lorenzo Salazar, Baldemar and the current infamous one, who were the other presidents? AA historians?'
I didn't profess to know them all and I was asking for help, however I did my homework on my own and even you are wrong. The other AA presidents were Manuel Vizcarra, Benjamin Cantu and maybe you didn't think it was worth mentioning Efrain Valverde of the Big Division of the early 1970's. So there, all you have to do is do a little research. I did know all these presidents they just didn't come to mind at the time.
Oh, and I am Apostolic DE LA CABEZA A LOS PIES! Of course I've moved on up to Apostolic World Alliance! It is greaaaaat!
Chumina let me tell you just how Apostolic I am -
I know I'm Apostolic when my parents became so at a young age and married and raised us Apostolic
I know I'm Apostolic when my parents were highly instrumental in building a church in their hometown in Mexico in their youth when the church was looked upon unfavorably and persecution existed
I know I'm Apostolic when I know my parents worked proudly in every capacity within the church
I know I'm Apostolic when my parents left their hometown with all their belongings and their little kids in tow "sin saber a donde iban" to take over a church hundreds of miles away
I know I'm Apostolic when I, alongside with my brothers and sisters lived and saw our parents sacrifice and work tirelessly for the Lord
I know I'm Apostolic when as a child were it not for the kindness and generosity of hermanos sometimes we would not have had clothes, shoes or supplies for school
I know I'm Apostolic when my parents hauled all of us across the country to conventions in the old station wagon and we were usually the very first ones there
I know I'm Apostolic when my brothers and sisters and I worked in every way we could to help our parents within the church
AND I know I'm Apostolic when I still love being Apostolic even when IT'S BEING RUN INTO THE GROUND AND GIVEN A BAD NAME AND REP BY THE PRESENT GB!
You got that Chumina?
To the AWA in Colorado
Can someone tell me how is Bro. Solomon doing?
Every time you guys post history it makes the gb look really bad. Since most of them are familia.
To LL:
Exactly . . . that's the point!
Kind of like the Tafoya clan in arizona hu, Seven-T!
So tell me cbg, did the Tafoya's have control of the AZ district board for decades or what? Please enlighten us as to your comment because inquiring minds want to know. I know Art Tafoya was bishop at one time but I am not aware of another Tafoya being on the district board. But since I am not a part of that district (not even remotely close) I wouldn't know that district's board history. But nice try at linking me with the Tafoya's but nah. You're wrong, AGAIN.
To all bloggers:
My neighbor at Cruces just told me
that Larry and Ester Rios have
been given alot of money to the
GB especially to Sanchez and Valverde, from the "Oldies but
Goodies", Apostolic songs!!!
and the Rios are fooling all
of the hermanos, making them believe that Larry Rios is being sincere to "preserve the old songs".
Well its to make himself rich.
No wonder Larry has been so high
and mighty...He will never be able to love the brethren Apostolicos
he has alot of "rage" because
he is so insecure...and has always been!
Rios ,Jaques sincere? HA!
They brag that Larry is an
accountant!
But since
he comes from the "getto" , just
cause they brag they went to the
University its like "no one else"
went!!!
Because he sure
cannot fool the Bishop Lorenzo Salazar's
kin. The Bishop Lorenzo Salazar
family is "very sabe", they are
not stupid....And are there "before"
you get there!
But the GB are also receiving
"big royalties", but the other
OLD TIMER"S Apostolic song
writers families are being "scammed". The other song writer's heirs like Brother Marcial de la Cruz,and many others are
not receiving "one single penny"!!
The Visa and Master Card provisions are 'there' for the Rios, the GB., and only one family.
This is not ethical, nor theologically nor morally just.
WE CANNOT BE MADE FOOLS ANY MORE..
ENOUGH SCAMS!!
Estimados Hermanos:
Me acaba de decir mi vecina aqui en Las Cruces, que Larry Rios y Ester
le estan mandando mucho dinero
a la Mesa Directiva, de la Asamblea, como a Sanchez, Valverde y Pacheco, por callarles la boca
que no le digan nada sobre la vente
de los cantos de los himnarios
Apostolicos.
Larry Rios le digo a esta hermana
mi vecina, que ellos los Rios, estan haciendo mucho dinero,
y aunque Rios "ABORECE"La Asamblea Apostolica y a muchos
hermanos, porque la Asamblea no
sirve para nada , dice Rios.
Si la Asamblea 'NO SIRVE PARA NADA' COMO DICE RIOS.
PORQUE SE PUSE EN EL Internet...
HA!!!Que porque la Asamblea no sirve para nada.DICE RIOS, ...
Pero me vecina
digo."Pero para si LA aSAMBLEA, SEGUN rIOS "SI SIRVE SOLAMENTE PARA sacarle dinero
a los hermanos , EN ESO SI SIRVE LA ASAMBLEA....
Que derecho tiene Sanchez, y los demas de ignorar que se este haciendo tanto dinero que aun esta las TARJETAS DE "VISA" Y MASTER CARD". PUEESTA POR RIOS?
en el internet para hacer que llegue
el dinero de los himnos pronto!!
Estos himnos "no son" de los Rios,
"son de La Asamblea," y los "derechos de las familias" de los autores. AUN YA MUCHOS DUERMEN EN EL SENOR.
PERO SUS DECIENEDIENTES SI VIVEN!!!
La familia de el Hermano Marcial de la Cruz, y muchos mas, MIRE USTED EL HIMNARIO DE CONSOLACION
Y OTROS HIMARIOS>
El himnario tiene "Derechos Reservados, con "COPYRIGHT"
No son de Rios ni de la Mesa
Directiva...
Por etica, moral, civil, y respecto, se le debe de dar esos
dineros a todos los autores de esos himnos.y A SUS FAMILIARES!
Pero Rios no le tiene respecto ni a Dios!
Nos han hecho sufrir aqui en Nuevo Mexico, por aborecen a todos los Pastores..
Preguntele a los Pastores Huerta, y Dominguez y otros....
No creo que ellos estan 'VENDIDOS'
COMO LA MESA DIRECTIVA.
Rios tienen anos de no asistir a una Iglesia Apostolica!
que ellos "aborecen"...
Mirese el "retrato de los Rios en la pagina del Internet que tienen.
LA MUJER vestida en PANTALONES, y Larry
parece una "griafa"....
Los Rios siempre "han hecho aqui en Nuevo Mexico lo que les dan
su gana...
No responden ni respetan a ningun Pastor, ni aun a la Asamblea.
Ellos escriben en el los "blogs" como Trophyman, y ella como Chumina.
Se defienden mucho con esos nombres
La palabra "Chumina" viene de los malos espiritos de los que se dicen "Indios de la tribu "Hopi" aqui en Nuevo Mexico, Arizona y Colorado!!!!
Pero lea usted los blogs de April 24, y mire como critica a la Mesa Directiva...el TROPHYMAN!!!
Y luego mire como se "defiende" TROPHYMAN... mas adelante cuando se le "reclama" de
hacer dinero de los himnos Antiguos, sin dar "credito" a los
familiares de los autores de esos himnos!!!
Ya basta!!!!de que los Rios hagan
fraude con la Asamblea y la Iglesia.
Y con toda la gente.
Se le da solo un "recocimiento"
a una familia, la del Obispo que fue en vida Loreno Salazar.
Con esa familia no se "burla"
Larry y el sabe muy bien...
Y esta bien que se le de ese
reconocimiento a esa familia que se sabe por siempre que vive con tanta necesidad
economica.
Esto esta muy bien que se les ayude,
para que tenga lo necesario.
Pero tambien que se le de por
"etica cristiana" y moral a los
deciendientes de el hermano Marcial de La Cruz, F. F. Llorente, Jose Ortega y muchos muchos mas. Si a unos si tambien a los demas!!!
Y estamos cansados que nos hacen
"tontos" con tanto fraude.!!!
Haciendo ricos con el trabajo de
otros!!!!
Ore a Dios que esto ya pare....
Ore por nosotros aqui en Nuevo Mexico que siempre hemos tenido
a estas "espinas" duras....en
nuestros miedos...Los Rios...
Vale Sanchez, Valverde.
esto se esta viendo muy mal para la Mesa Diretiva.
Que apoyen a este impio..Larry Rios.
"Vividor"!!!
Caminando Voy!
Right on!!
Ester sure "baited you"..
She is real old around 75, but still evil!!!
Anyone would be "miserble" married to that "impio" "UNFILLED" Navajo! Greedy and disloyal to the Church..
He needs to go to "fraudlent anonymous"
We need you here in
Cruces to get this "vividores"
outta of here?
They were in Arizona, but they are
very much of "ill repute" there...too..So Arizona kicked them out!
Come on Caminado Voy.... you sure are "bold"!
thanks!
Caminando Voy...Way to Go!!!
All bloggers check out this site:
http://www.pe.com/localnews/
redlands/stories/PE_News_Local
_W_salomon20.436c44b.html?npc
Anybody know who this is?
please don't tell me this Salomon guy is a pastor or minister with the assembly!!
Sure fits the mold.
Not only was he a minister in the AA, but he's also related to D. Salomon from Colorado!
If he is with the AA that's another lawsuit they will be facing.
I’m sure this Salomon guy had no problem obtaining his ministerial license from the assembly since all he had to do is send in his payments to you know who! And I have personally witnessed good ministers and pastors being threatened that their ministerial licenses are going to be pulled, because they can’t keep up with their fees!! What a disgrace!!
Jesse,how much are the M. License now?
Is this guy in Riverside related to Daniel and Michael Salomon? If so, what is his relation to them?
Or did you just see someone with the name Salomon and run with it?
I believe Michael S. is Daniel S's younger brother.
Clay,notcompletely sure.
The person mentioned in the article is too old to be the Salomon in question. David and Daniel Solomon are twins and are probably in their 50's not early 60's.
Yes, this is Daniel Solomon's brother. He was in the assembly many many years ago and left to forge his own church. didn't go too well though.
To Jesse, Ojo- news, Cheese,
Sanchez, Valverde, Pacheco,
etc.,
Don't get excited, you GALLOS:
What is going on with the Salomon
is just the same or maybe Eliseo Sanchez the brother of Daniel Sanchez, John Sanchez and all the
Sanchez gang.did is worse., or the same!!!
Eliseo Sanchez, the brother of these people was arrested in 1968 in the state of Texas, near Houston, Texas where Eliseo was Pastor and at the same time was soliciting his own wife, by making out cards that were distributed to
University Students for "illecit sex".
This I repeat was when Eliseo was Pastor of the church in a town
near Houston unfortunally with the Apostolic Assembly. It was such a scandle!!
Benjamin Quiroz, who was pastoring in that area,who is such a legalist and married a woman twice divorced, and are still in full
communion in the Assembly, voted to "ouste" lynche The brothers that "blew the whistle on the "fraudulent elections."
Quiros said, Alvarez, the traitor, legalist from Coahella here in California. And the Pastor of Phoenix, whose name is "Romo" voted to "oust these whistle blowers., as if Quiros, Alvarez, and Romo are so clean!!!!
These people get away with spiritual murder. They kill spiritually and crucifiy brethren that fall by the way side, AT AN INSTANT...
As long as it is "their"
sin. IT OKAY..... That is "clean" sin.. so they
get away with it HUH?
SANCHEZ, VALVERDE, PACHECO AND ALL THE REST
OF YOU GALLOS...
WHY?????? IS ELISEO SANCHEZ STILL
GETTING CREDENTIALS FROM THE APOSTOLIC ASSEMBLY WHY????
There are plenty of witness still
living, that know about this this mess that Eliseo Sanchez did., and yet Sanchez is "hear nothing, see nothing, say nothing......MUDO!!!!
WE SAY WHAT DOES ELISEO HAVE ON YOU DANIELITO???
MAY BE STUFF FROM SOLANA, TUCSON, AND NOW SOUTH WHITTIER???
HUH Sanchez????
S O M E T H I N G....BIG TIME!!!
We are not consenting on what Michael or David Salomon did...
or who ever of the Salomons did.,
But why the fuss.SANCHEZ, when the "Big Changoto of Eliseo Sanchez is so
"in denial". AND IS STILL FULLY CREDENTIAL...HOW DOES EVERY BODY, KEEP "SHUT"!!!
Eliseo Sanchez IS PASTORING IN Richmond, Virginia and Abel Aguilar has Eliseo Sanchez as part of the group of National Evangelists...
Why Aguilar?????Who are you doing , FAVORS TOO?
HA., AS IF WE DIDN'T KNOW!!!!!
OYO NEWS CHEESE JESSE....
Do some reasearch on this...
concerning Eliseo Sanchez...
You would really then be the Apostolic Assembly's HEROS...
You guys are smart, but you are
ssssssssooooooooo scared of Sanchez. HUH???
A todos en General:
Lo que se esta discutiendo
por bloggers, "OYO_NEW< JESSE
CHEESE... y otros.,
Esto es sobre uno de los hermanos en la carne de Obispo Daniel Salomon.
este sugen es un escandalo!!!
Pero yo digo, es mejor que se quede calladito DAniel Sanchez, porque el tiene mucha "cola que le pisen"!!!
Esto me recuerda de lo que paso con el Hermano de Daniel Sanchez,
en el ano 1968, en el estado de
Texas, cerca de la ciudad de Houston, Texas.
Eliseo Sanchez, hermano de Sanchez,
fue arrestado cuando era Pastor de una Iglesia de la Asamblea Apostolica en el estado de Texas.,
En ese dia, que Eliseo fue arrestado., estaban como tres evangelistas teniendo servicios de evangelismo en esa Iglesia, que pastoreaba Eliseo.
Estos evangelistas que estaban en hira de campania., estudiaban en el colegio de CBAN.
Al estar ellos dormidos en la casa de Eliseo Sanchez, llego la policia, y arresto a Eliseo Sanchez, por solicitar a su mujer para actos immorales con estudiantes de la Universidad en ese local.
Eliseo Sanchez y su mujer formaron un escandalo terrible, con las "noticias en el Diaro de toda esa area..
Pero Sanchez, Danielito se queda "calladito" de saber de ese delito de su hermano Eliseo.
Eliseo Sanchez tiene credentiales de la Asamblea, y esta de Pastor en Richmond, Va., y fue pastor en Las Vegas, donde hizo lo mismo con solicitar a su mujer. Que ajuante de esa pobresito mujer!!!!!
Pero Danielito Sanchez, "MUDO", NO VE, NO OYE, NO HABLA"..
Cuando le conviene. Pero si "mata" junto con sus mafiosos., Valverde, Pache3co, Aguilar, Prado, Ma, Espinosa y el que roba Martin.
Sera que no puede Sanchez hacer nada para corriguir a Eliseo?
PORQUE tal vez Eliseo "sabe" mucho contra Sanchez, de lo que paso con Danielito en Tucson, Solana Beach y en South Whittier, donde tambien Danielito SAnchez es pastor!!!
Asi que Quiroz,que era Pastor en esa area de Houston, Texas, cuando paso eso con Eliseo. Como para eso no "HABLA" y le dice a Sanchez que "CEDA" a Eliseo de el ministerio.
Porque que cara tiene Quiroz de hablar, y de votar que se "saquen a los que dieron el "alarma" de las "eleccion" fradulentes en Long Beach. A esos si dijo Quiroz, Alvarez, y Romo, "FUERA"
Pero Quiroz que para el "OTROS PECAN PERO EL ES MUY SANTO>>>>
que se caso con una "mujercita". bien POR DOS MATRIMONIOS...
divorciada "dos veces., y si ellos
estan en plena communion con la Asamblea....en Arizona...
Porque Quiroz, voto en dar el "fallo" a los que dieron "LA ALERTA" DE LE ELECCION DE FRAUDE.
Es un "relajo" que se escandalise
Danielito Sanchez, con cual quier
cosa cuando tiene muchos "CHANGOTES", ESCONDIDOS.
Abel Aguilar, otro vendido., tiene a Eliseo Sanzhez, en el grupo de Evangelistas Nationales.
Y Valverde, otro contumas, que "maquina todo lo "malo" en la Asamblea y su primito Pachequito, todos estos "saben muy bien de Eliseo Sanchez,.
Pero le "consientes a Danielito Sanchez., o sino "fuera!!!!!
Acuerdense que ya vienen las "elecciones' frududentas otra vez...,
Y USTEDES PASTOR CON LA MISMA
COVARDILLA!!!
Most of this is due to all the power given to man. Calling them "MEN OF GOD" "THE HONORABLES"
Bible says for Pastors to come as servants. Yet most of them come in and sit on the throne as LORDS.
No matter what you do. You can inform the Bishop all you can. He won't side on your side even if he sees the Pastor with a gun to your head.
If he did he would be doing the right thing, but at the same time that would give the congregations more contol over abusive and bad pastors.
There main goal is to keep the members dumb and under their tumbs. As long as they can do that. They will remain in power for as long as they want. Do as they want. Overrun anybody thats gets in their way, and then hide behind the quote "DON'T GO UP AGAINST GOD'S ANIONTED"
Their main objective is not as much as doing good, but rather to stay in power, and earn at living at it.
God help us all!
You have a point santoable but if these men like Mr. Torres where not in the will of God they would not be able to continue to be blessed. Just like when the Isrealites plundered Jehrico God left them. They tried to attack the enemey and where defeated.
If this was not in the will of God these men that left would not continue to be blessed.
God would have turned his back on them.
Right now the only one who it Seems that God has turned their back on is the AA and the Gb because they are losing the offices. One of there own people sent out the voted to Pastor Mendoza's attorney.
They are not receiving to much income from the churches Pastors are leaving the mess the aa Gb has for lack of a better word messed up the AA.
These men such as Mr. Torres are getting blessed new properties they are getting new memebers so if they were not in the will of God God would not continue to bless them.
So my friend read the writting on the wall the AA glory days and the MESSEd up Gb have brought down the respect of the church the respect of the offices they had 4to were your own AA members are even embarresed to say they go to the AA so get over all the legalities and see what is happening right infront of you all.
To all Bloggers:
We still cannot believe that
the swindlers, Rios from
here at Cruces "still have
their Web page on the songs.
How dare you esther and Larry
tell us that we cannot down
load and copy this "our songs".
Since We belong to the Apostolic
Assembly and you liars and cheaters
Do not!
And you liars, Have not "attended" any
Apostolic Church in over 40 years.
If the AA really "knew your
conspiracy and your fraud,
they would scream at you more
than they already have.
You are from the back ground
of "witch craft, big time and
and you know it.!!
The "eggs" your mother Maria
used were not for eating,
they were for "evil".
So get off on "making yourselves
rich on "OUR SONGS."
And by the way we remember Bishop Lorenzo very well, when he used
to visit us in Superior, Arizona
and Bishop Salzar "DETESTED",
being called "LENCHO."
So if you do not know this,then you really did not know him at all.
You are "just using him" to get
yourselves rich!!!
We are calling all the "heirs"
of the Apostolic Song writers,
and informing them on your
conspiracy, and your cheating
on the "Royalities" that belong
to the families of the "song Writers., and not to you BACK Sliders PHONIES, ROBBERS AND
MUNIPULATORS!!
You did not have the song's
writers annointing. Nor any
calling what so ever, only to
lie and cheat. Your "tooting"
of the horn is lousy, and
your key board sounds a "disgrace"!
But you sure are making big
bucks....
on the works of the Apostolic songs writer's!
GO AHEAD BRETHREN AND SISTERS, MAKE COPIES OF THOSE SONGS.
THIS SONGS ARE "OUR APOSTOLIC
SONGS", AS THE RIOS LABEL THEM.
WE ENCOURAGE YOU HEIRS OF THE
SONG WRITERS TO "TAKE THE RIOS
TO COURT, AND SUE THE RIOS FOR
VIOLATING "COPY RIGHTS" AND
THE LEGAL RIGHTS OF THE ESTATES
OF YOUR PARENTS.
And Chumina, you from the HOPI
Indian tribe, know that Iam
not a liar. You tell others,here at Cruces and everywhere else,
about how you "Chumina,"
which is the name of the "evil spirits
of the Hopi Indians rituals,
and of "their "snake" dance.,
You tell others that you and
the (E. T.) Larry , who calls himself TROPHY MAN, and who tells
everyone here at Cruces, that you
are "in the money now", with
the "saps" of the Apostolic
Brethren.!
What "scammers" you are!
Well not with "our" Apostolic
songs.
You even have the "nerve" to
have the "Visa and Master
Card logo.
And the Nerve you have to
"recruit" donotions, as your
"Hopi", non profit set up.
Non profit for what?
To scam the Apostolic Brethren
who have already been "scammmed"
enough....
We are not liars, we just know
"who" you really are.
That's why everyone laugh at the
"both of you" YOU ARE MISFITS,
AND A JOKE.!!
WANNA BE....
Well not on "our songs".
Cheaters!
Hope the Salazar family is "keeping"
a good count on your sales.
Because you two are going to
scam them good....As you are
scamming the rest of the families
of the Apostolic song writers.
You have no "shame"...
Re: Eliseo S. What city outside of Houston did that happen.
We could always look it up on the web..
Chumina
Are you saying that truth from NM is Bro. Huerta?
Chumina HOPI Decedent!!!
So you are defending your E.T.
Scammer "hasband!"
(only you in the entire world would
stay with him "one minuto!"
and visa versa....who would want
you.....poor old lady..cheaters!!
Well you two will surely will need defending
when you are taken to court for
clandestine "marketing for profit"
from the hard, anointing and prayer
warrior song writer's efforts.
Larry and you HOPI Indian will have to
give "all marketing accountability
for the "fraud" you are doing
in marketing through your "home
made" non profit, HOPI invest--
ments.
The Profits you are making are
infringing in the "rights" of the
"rightful owner" , the Apostolic
Assembly and La Iglesia
de Mexico, song writers and their
heirs.
You will be charged on "siege and
deceased" Just keep it up.,
you are already in immense and deep enough troubles!!
Not only Pastor Sam Huerta knows
who you are, but believe me
Iam not Sam Huerta.
All of the Apostolics here in Cruces cannot stand you both!
And I mean "ALL OF THEM"
You know very well you are
despicable, impetus, and lack
total and completely in every sense
of the word...You lack morals, integrity,
and kindness.
Since your "roots" are developmentally delayed., (nuts)
you have no clue on how you are
"cheating" the rightful owners
of these Apostolic songs!
So Chumina, you say, "That Larry
cannot be my neighbor here at
Cruces, because you two live
in an exclusive area of Cruces
where THERE ARE NO MEXICANS."
Oh!!!!so NO MEXICANS ARE IN THE
AREA WHERE YOU TWO LIVE?
Then why in the heck are you
scamming the "Mexican song writer's
songs, so you two can get "rich"
on the "Mexican" song writers works!!!But you sure do not want
to be identified with "MEXICANS"...
OH THAT'S IS TURE YOU ARE NOT "MEXICANS. YOU ARE HOPI DECENDENTS!!!
You sure are stupid to admit
this in the blogs.
"That you two are too "exclusive
and goody good to live in a
"MEXICAN NEIGHBORHOOD.!
So the Mexican Apostolic song
writer's profits are okay for
you...But not to live NEAR
MEXICANS...!!!
HOW DEVELOPMENTALLY DELAYED
CAN YOU TWO BE!!!
OH HERE AT CRUCES WE ALL KNOW
THAT....FOR SURE...
BUT THE POOR MEXICAN HERMANOS, (as you call us)
SURE THINK YOU ARE SINCERE
DOING A "GOOD DEED"...
BUT YOU TWO ARE JUST PLAIN
"BEGGARS AND PEDDLERS"..
AND "VIVIDORES"
YOU "WANNA BE" RICH ON "THE MEXICANS.EFFORTS..
But as you say "NOT TO LIVE NEAR THEM!!!!!"
WELL MEXICANS ARE GOOD FOR
"SOMETHING" HUH....TO BE
SCAMMED BY YOU!!!!!
Oh but we are the suckers" being
scammed to be exploited!!!!
"Mine is the vengeance saith the
Lord"....
You will surely get it!!!!
And now.. You will lose everything
you have or will ever have.
For "wrongful profits"
THANK YOU LORD..AMEN.
A todos los hermanos y hermanos
de la Fe Apostolica de la Fe en Cristo Jesus y amigos..
Dice la "Chumina" en los blogs,
que su esposo Larry Rios, no es
Trophy man....Pero si es, y escribe "horible cosas de la Mesa Directiva, y de los Mexicanos...
Pero hermanos tambien me dicen
ellos, que yo aqui en Cruces, Nuevo Mexico no puedo vivir donde ellos
viven, porque aqui es una vencidad
Exclusiva" y que alli no viven
"Mexicanos"!!!
Imgainesen ustedes que estan
confiando que los himnos Apostolicos
antiguos que ustedes estan
comprando via el Internet,
"electronico envio",
que ellos
los Rios se creian mas que
Los Mexicanos, que no viven con
ellos en su vencidad..
Que ellos viven "exclusiva mente.!!!en una vencindad que no
HAY MEXICANOS!!!!
Pero si que nosotros "los Mexicanos" Para una cosa si nos
aceptan!!!!!
Que les compremos C. D'S. por el
internet.
De himnos que fueron
compuestos bajo la inspiracion
de muchos hermanos ya con el Senor.
Pero ahora este individo Rios
y la "chumina" como se nombra ella
en el los blogs...
Se estan haciendo "ricos" con
los himnos y los derechos de
el saldo con pertenese a La
Asamblea Apostolica, La Iglesia
de Mexico, y a los hijos herederos
de los hermanos ya extintos.!!!
Solamente una familia recibe
recuesos, y bien hecho, la
familia Salazar...pero que de
los demas, que son como 200
o mas autores?!!!!!!!!!
QUE DE ESTOS?????
Yo no se donde esta en Presidente
Sanchez, y los demas, QUE NO
"atagan ni arrellanan "este
individo Larry Rios (trophy man)
y Chumina.
Aqui en Nuevo Mexico no hay
ningun hermano Apostolica que
los recomiende bien..
Sabemos que son ellos unos
explotadores, inmorales, mentirosos, y de muy mal
testimonio.
TIENEN MUCHOS ANOS QUE NO SE
CONGREGAN A UNA IGLESIA APOSTOLICA..
PERO SI SON LISTOS PARA "ROBAR"
LOS HIMNOS APOSTOLICOS.
PARA HACERSE "RICOS"...
CON CANTOS QUE NO......SON
DE ELLOS,
Mirese en el Web pagina de ellos,
la mujer con "pantalones"..
Ellos se merecen asi mismo
porque son iguales.
Destruidores de la obra de
Dios. Y extremamente crueles,
y mentirosos!!!
hablando muy mal de la Mesa Directiva., aun cuando les
consienten vender los C. d.
que no son de los Rios.
con Visa y Master Card!!!!
Dicen que ayudan a los "olvidados"
y desamparados"..
Pero a nosotros "Los Mexicanos
no nos quieren ni de vecinos.!!!
Ya no les compren C.D.'s y pase la
voz, que los Rios., se creian
muy meresidos.
Y que en su vencidad "exclusiva"
dicen ellos no Viven MEXICANOS...
Pero si los Mexicanos como
nosotros nos quieren, y nos necesitan para hacerese "richos, que
si les compremos, los C. D."s
"ES UN ROBO" de los Rios con estos
cantanos Apostolicos...
No son de ellos, pertenecen
a los herdores de los hermanos pioneros, que ni un centavo
recibieron...
Pero estos "bandidos" si
estan robando, sin etica, ni
respecto moral a los heredores
de los hermanos autores...
Ustedes hermanos y hermanas que Dios le bendiga, y que despierten,
Y siga defiendo sus derechos!!!
No orene mas nada de estos
"vividores"..
PASE LA PALABRA!!!NO COMPREN!!!
RESPETE A SUS HERMANOS Y HERMANAS,
YA CON EL SENOR...Y A SUS HEREDORES., Y A LA ASAMBLEA Y LA
IGLESIA DE MEXICO...!
UNIDOS VENCEREMOS....CONTRA
ESTOS "VIVIDORES" EXPLOTADORES...
que estan robando los himnos
apostolicos y a los heredores
de esos himnos, Familia de los
autores de Los Himnos Apostolicos!
Gracias...
Preach it hermano Huerta!!
Its always about the MONEY. The North Central District is having its convention next month and already the good ole boys club has sent a letetr that they want the churches to pay the pastor $1,000 to attend. I guess its ok if you have a large church but when there is only a few they want each member to come up with a $100. At this time when the economy is so bad. Just goes to show what great leadership we have. A $1,000 for a 3 day convention in which the Farthest church is probably like only 50 miles away. MONEY MONEY MONEY. Bishop Hoyer's church picked up an offering to send him to End Times. where I'm sure he and his wife were handsomely rewarded for their parts there, and still the church had too pick up an offering. MONEY MONEY MONEY. No Wonder we're in the condition we're in.
Let's get back to the issue of the elections and the residuals from this!
Re-recording someone else's songs and selling them is not illegal as someone already posted here.
TO ALL BLOGGERS.............
We are in the "very topic" of "fraud" and "fraud" and "fraud"
in elections.
WE HAVE BEEN
SCAMMED ENOUGH!!! PLUS WE CONTINUE
TO BE WITH THESE "WANNA BE
RICH" SCAMMERS RIOS....
And scamming and scamming our brethren and sisters!!!
This is exactly why Chumina from
Cruces and Larry Rios are unethical,
cheaters, fraudulent and "robbers" of the Apostolic song writer's
ownership.
It most certainly is illegal to
'record" 'FOR PROFIT" someone elses
works!!
IT IS CALLED "SEIGED AND DECEASED".
MISAPPROPRIATION OF LEGAL RIGHTS, FOR PROFIT!!
These Chumina, Hopi indian descendent and Larry Rios have
always "been known" for cheating,
LYING AND SCAMMING PEOPLE.
That is why Chumina, Ester Rios, deleated her comment on May 24,2009at ll:01 p.m.?
Because she is so sorry she allowed
herself to "loose her lying" tongue that they are "nice, people"
She stated that they would not live in a "neighborhood of MEXICANS"
THAT "THEY LIVE IN AN EXCLUSIVE
NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WOULD NEVER
LIVE WHERE I LIVE!!!"
It may not hit anyone as these
people are "jibbers" and cheaters" and "racists" against the poeple
"US MEXICANS" THAT THEY ARE "SCAMMING TO GET RICH ON.,
stolen songs of those that
the Lord used and gave them inspirational songs.
The fact is that the Rios are,
unethical, robbers and deceivers
and have no "respect" for the
Apostolic song writer"s, nor
do they respect the families of
the Apostolic song writer's.
They have no "right" and no
christian right, nor "legal rights, because these Apostolic
songs have been copyrighted by
the Apostolic Assembly!!
Who gives them the "go ahead" to
record these songs and 'SELL THEM
FOR PROFIT"!!!
THEY SURELY DID NOT "MESS WITH THE
SALAZAR FAMILY....AND IAM GLAD THE
RIOS "ARE AFRAID OF THEM.
BUT THE RIOS HAVE NO RESPECT
FOR THE 200 OR MORE APOSTOLIC ASSEMBLY AND LA IGLESIA DE MEXICO SONG WRITERS
RIGHT'S.
DO NOT ORDER THESE SONGS FROM THE RIOS,WHERE THEY "HATE APOSTOLICS
AND ALSO HATE MEXICANS..."
CAUSE THEY ARE SUCH L I A R S!!!
"users and wanna be rich racists!!
BEWARE RUN FOR YOUR LIVES, AS WE
ALL APOSTOLICS HERE IN NEW MEXICO HAVE....
MAY THE LORD REBUKE THE RIOS
SCAMMERS AND RACISTS!
GOTTHA RUNNING HUH CHUMINA????(ESTER).
You sure "goofed again and again"
when you wrote on May 24,2009 that you and Larry live in an "EXCLUSVE' CRUCES NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I COULD NOT POSSIBLY LIVE THERE WITH "MI TIA". because there
a 'NO MEXICANS IN THE EXCLUSIVE NON-MEXICANS, AS YOU SAID ON YOUR DELEATED BLOG, MAY 24, 2009 @ 11 A.M.!!!!!!!
NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE YOU LIVE!
Wow how "stupid" can you be>>>
Here you are "scamming" us'MEXICANS" OF THE APOSTOLIC ASSEMBLY, AND THE FAMILIES OF THE SONG WRITERS.,
by recording "their songs" and
'SELLING THEM "FOR PROFIT"!!!!!...."
WHICH IS DEFINATELY ILLEGIAL!!!
CHEATERS, LIARS AND SCAMMERS.
YOU HAVE NO RESPECT FOR THE
OWNER SHIP OF THOSE SONGS.
SCAMMING AND MAKING MONEY...
YOU MUST BE "REAL HARDED UP"
FOR MONIES.....WOW!!!
WELL ITS TRUE YOU COME FROM
VERY LOW CLASS., AND DO NOT FORGET
THAT YOU SAY YOU LIVE "EXCLUSIVELY", WITH NON-MEXICANS.....
BUT YOU SURE WANT "OUR MEXICAN MONEY"...SCAMMERS!!!
YOU HATE THE APOSTOLIC ASSEMBLY, THE MESA DIRETIVA, AND OF COURSE
ALL ITS MEMBERS...
this you have "said over and over in the Trophy man and Chumina blogs., and also to me and others
here at Cruces.
NO WONDER YOU "DELEATED THE COMMENT", ON HOW YOU LIVE IN AN
"EXCLUSVE NEIGHBORHOOD' WHERE NO
MEXICANS LIVE!!!!
MAY THE LORD REBUKE YOU, AND NOW....
REMEMBER ESTER YOU WERE SO SICK, AS
A CHILD...GOD REMEMBERS!!!!!!
YOU "EXPLOIT" GOD'S CHILDREN...
BEWARD!!!!
:MINE IS THE VENGENANCE SAITH THE
LORD.:
RUN LARRY RUN.....(TROPHY MAN)
CHUMINA....SPIRIT OF THE HOPI
CHUMINA...SNAKE DANCE.!!!!!
Apreciable Hermanos y Hermanas.
La Mesa Directiva de la Asamblea,
segun ese individo Larry Rios, que
estan grabando y 'VENDIENDO",
CONTRA LA ETHICA, Y MORALIDAD,
Cristiana.
Estas grabaciones este individo Larry Rios y Ester Rios, que ellos
no se congregan en ninguna Iglesia
Apostolica, ni en ninguna congregacion.
Estan vendiendo para ganancia Propia.....sobre los himnos que
pertanecien a las familias de los
autores de himnos Apostolicos, que son como 200 autores.
Estos hermanos autores, de estos
himnos Apostolicos que Dios se
los dio, nunca recibieron ni un
centavo por ninguna grabacion, o
duplicacion de esos himnos.
Pero este BANDIDO VIVIDOR, DE TORPES GANANCIAS, ESTA RECIBIENDO MUCHO MUCHO DINERO DE LOS QUE HACEN PEDIDOS POR ESOS HIMNOS QUE NO SON DE EL DE LARRY RIOS.
NO LE ESTA DANDO NINGUN TRIBUTO A
MAS DE 200 FAMILIAS SOBRE ESE DINERO QUE EL ESTA RECIBIENDO, QUE DICE QUE SON PARA AYUDAR A LOS
ABANDONADOS Y TRISTES.
PUES HAY MUCHOS HEREDORES DE LOS
HERMANOS APOSTOLICOS HEREDEROS
DE ESOS HIMNOS QUE PUDIERAN
AYUDARSE A RECIBIR LO MERECIDO
DE VENTA DE ESAS GRABACIONES QUE
ESTA HACIENDO ESE INDIVIDO LARRY
RIOS Y NO LES DA NINGUN CENTAVO
A MAS DE 200 FAMILIAS!!!
No les compren ya mas grabaciones.
Ni tampoco les manden donaciones.
Pues en Mayo 24, 2009 a 11 a.m.
escribio la esposa de ese individo
Larry Rios, que va por nombre "Chumina" que yo que tambien vivo en Cruces, Nuevo Mexico, no puedo vivir en su
vecindad, porque yo soy MEXICANO",
Y ESA VECINDAD ES "EXCLUSIVA DONDE ELLOS VIVEN" Y NO SE PERMITEN
"MEXICANOS ALLI"
PUES AHORA SI QUE ESTAMOS BIEN
ATRASADOS. NOS ESTAN "EXPLOTANDO" CON VENTAS DE MUCHO DINERO PARA
LOS RIOS., POR ESO SE ESMERAN TANTO!!!
Y NO PODEMOS VIVIR EN LA VECINDAD,. QUE ELLOS VIVEN, PORQUE
SOMOS MEXICANOS!!!!
PERO SI QUIEREN NUESTRO DINERO DE LOS MEXICANOS...
CREEAME, HERMANOS Y HERMANAS, QUE ESTOS RIOS ABORECEN A LA MESA DIRECTIVA, Y A NOSOTROS LOS APOSTOLICOS...
ELLOS SIEMPRE HAN SIDO DE MUY
MAL TESTIMONIO AQUI EN NUEVO MEXICO,Y TIENEN MAS DE 30 ANOS DE
NO ASISTIR A NINGUNA IGLESIA DE LA
ASAMBLEA NI LA DE MEXICO.....NOS
ABORECEN!!!
PERO SIIIIIII QUIEREN NUESTRO
DINERO..
ESTOS HIMNOS NO SE PUEDEN GRABAR
LEGAL MENTE POR LUCRO...Y ELLOS
ESTAN GANADO MUCHO DINERO!!!!!
NO TIENEN RESPECTO NI DELICADESA,
NI ETICA NI MORALIDAD CRISTIANA.!!!
Siempre han hecho lo que les da
su mucha gana!!!!
No les compren mas C. D.s
Porque ese es un ROBO!!!!!
Y mucha falta de "respeto" para
los autores de nuestros himnos
que "NO" les dan ni un centavo de recompensa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Y todo lo que ganan de dineros
son para Larry Rios.. Dice que no
es asi?
Pero sabiendo lo metirosos y
"racistas" que son contra nosotros
los Mexicanos....Sabemos que si
estan haciendo recibiendo milles
de $$$$ Dolares!!!!!
Que el Senor Jesus los reprenda
por el robo que estan haciendo
para mas de 200 familias...
Sola la familia Salazar estan
recibiendo saldos., pero es porque
pobre de ellos si no les dan..
Oyala que si les den lo merecido, y que no les esten robando tambien., como a mas de 200
hermanos y hermanas compositores de nuestros Himnos.
Also from NM:
You must be "one of them Rios tinted"
We do have a life and that is to
"discredit all those liars, schemers and fraudlent hoods, home boys,
that are scamming our congregations.
Such as the Rios, wanna be rich,
on the "royalties" of the deserving
families of the 200 or more
Apostolic song writers.
This is stealing, robbing,
fraud and disrespect and
highway robbery of the
Apostolic songs that do not
belong to these lazy good
for nothing...scammers.
That's our lives., buddy
to discredit the embezzlers,
like the Rios that are "vividores"
liars and abusing the elderly.!!!
You get a life...and you stop
doing deceit and fraud...
Lazy and unsers...
Give to those that are rightfully
owners of these songs...
But you have no ethics nor morals.
Just look from what "ALLEYS"
YOU EVOLVED FROM...
YOU GET ALIFE... WE HAVE ONE,
MAKING PEOPLE AWARE OF THE
FRAUD AND SCAMMING THAT GOES
ON IN OUR CHURCHES..
EVEN FROM HEATHENS LIKE THE RIOS
THAT HATE THE APOSTOLIC CHURCHES
AND ITS PASTOR, GENERAL BOARD, AND MEMBERS.....
YOU ARE CERTAINLY ONE OF THEM
HUH?
WELL REPENT, AND STOP CHEATING,
AND GIVE THE "ROYALTIES" TO THOSE
DUE TO THEM.!!!
You will get it and soon!!!
Scammers!!!!!
anything for a BUCK!!!!!
Money needy and starving for
money...Get a job, if your
social security and retirement
is "not enough"...
Stop cheating and doing fraud
to our G.B., Pastors, and
Members!!!!!
TotheInsider:
On The brother of
Sanchez,
Eliseo Sanchez,
pastor at Richmond, Va.,
The incident happened
in June of 1967or 1968
in a city near
Houston called Edinburg,
Texas.
The name of the newspaper
my sources tell me
is Edinburg Review.
Eliseo was soliciting
his wife to students
of the University.
Eliseo was arrested
and Benjamin Quiroz,
who was acting Bishop
of that area did NOTHing!
But Quiroz sure did
when Sanchez asked him
whether to :lynch:
Bishops Torres, Baldemar
and Salomon!!!..
defend your church!
TO: The truth from New Mexico:
About song copyrights?
I have done a little research on this subject through friends who know the music business as professionals.
Just because the Apostolic Assembly puts "Copyrighted" on the himario de consolacion does not mean that it is copyrighted. Another thing is that if you re-record a song(new musicians, new arrangement,etc...) it's ok, since the new recording is not the original recording. That makes a big difference. Now if you were to take the original recordings and duplicate them and sell those? Yes then you would be in trouble.
I don't know the family you speak about..."The truth from New Mexico"
You know I call it like it is. I have enjoyed your strong opinions in the past and you know a lot of relevant AA history. GET BACK ON TRACK!! If you don't like this family in New Mexico don't make it personal! MOVE ON! Let's talk about the elections and the history of these tyrants.
Antonio: THANK YOU!!
I was beginning to think for a while that this person who they call "Larry Rios" and family were the cause for the AA falling apart. Just kidding!! We all know who it is, the GB of the AA! It seems to me this thing between these people in the state of New Mexico is a personal issue. So folks keep it amongst yourselves please!
Antonio,
Please do not tell me
that you not
knowning anything
about this individual Rios,
write to defend him.
Since you say that you
have done some research
on the subject of copyrights.
That is not the issue here,
as much as the issue that
this Larry and Chumina
stated they are making
megga dollars., on these
songs.
That do not belong to them.
THE RIOS
EVEN HAVE A NON PROFIT
BUSINESS SO THEY CAN SCAM
NOT ONLY THE APOSTOLIC SONG
WRITERS...BUT THE IRS AND THE
GOVERNMENT.
We could see if these songs
have no follow up on owner--
ship, and that the heirs
and the Estate of the
Apostolic song writers are
not known....
But just as much as the
Salazar family deserve
to receive the royalties
of their father's songs.
Something he never received
one cent from. Because
that was his "nature".
All to the "honor and Glory"
of God.
But now Larry who is still
developmently delayed and
so "old and IMMATURE".
IS NOT....... GIVING ROYALTIES TO
THE OTHER 200 FAMILIES
HEIRS to the Apostolic Song
writers.
Whether the law states
what so ever on "copyrights.
The issue and fact IS THAT
THESE SONGS "DO" HAVE A FOLLOW
UP., and if "one family" can
receive "royalties"., because
Larry wants to 'APPEAR"
FAIR....
He is not, fair. Nor ethical
nor morally sane.
The issue is...."give the
money to the heirs of the
other 200 families," as he is
doing to one.
And don't brag that they
live in an exclusve neighborhood.,
where no "MEJICANOS" LIVE!!
NOT EVEN ME, THAT LIVES NEAR
THEM!!!
Yet they want the "money scammed
from the Mexicanos.!!
THAT'S THE "ISSUE" that must be
addressed and continue to be
addressed....AND ADDRESSED AND ADDRESSED AND ADDRESSED. BECAUSE THE APOSTOLICS HAVE BEEEN "SCAMMED" AND MADE FOOLS OF ENOUGH.!!!!
THE RIOS ARE Liars and cheaters,
and hating Apostolics and the
General Board they hate too.
The Rios have NOT CONGREGATED IN ANY APOSTOLIC CHURCH, OF USA OR MEXICO FOR YEARS..
THEY ALWAYS "STATE THEY HATE"
THE G.B. AND ALWAYS HATE EVERY
PASTOR THEY HAVE KNOWN.
BUT THE RIOS "SURE" WANT
OUR
MONEY....SOUNDS FAMILIAR????
"THAT'S THE ISSUE!!!!"
That's the issue. Whether it
lawful or unlawful.ON THE COPYRIGHT...
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT "HOW THE RIOS
ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF MAKING
MONEY OF WHAT IS "NOT RIGHTFULLY"
THEIRS.
THESE SONGS ARE "NOT" THEIRS.
THIS IS UNETHICAL, IMORAL, AND
STEALING."
The issue is .....The Rios
here in New Mexico, have never
been fair..., and they are
not "fair" with the heirs
of the other 200 Apostolic
song writers heirs.
The word is spreading now.
Do not purchase any more C.D.'
from the "scammers" Rios..
Until the Rios contact all the
rest of the 200 families of
the heirs of the Apostolic Song
writers.
And put THE names and addresses
OFTHE 200 HUNDRED FAMILIESon the Rios Web page, and have
the "LOGO" of the Visa and Master
Card also be attributed to
those 200 hundred families.
Fair is fair. A que "honora,
honora, y a que pecho a pecho."
"NO DEBAS A NADIE NADA." SAITH THE WORD OF GOD.
"Thou shall not steal"
And the Rios are "stealing big
time from the 200 Apostolic
Assembly and La Iglesia de Mexico
HEIRS.. OF THE APOSTOLIC SONG
WRITERS.
THAT'S THE ISSUE....
STEALING.......AND NO RESPECT,
NOR ETHICS....
NOR MORALS!!!
THE RIOS WOULD HAVE HAD TO BE
BORN IN AN OTHER "HOUSE HOLD"
TO HAVE LEARNED "ETHICS, MORALS,
RESPECT AND LOYALTY.
Sorry Antonio, but these are
the facts that "MUST BE" addressed.
DON'T YOU THINK THERE HAS BEEN
ENOUGH SCAMMING, AND FRAUD?
Hope you are "not one of them".
Thanks Antonio,
This person From NEW Mexico, can not get it thru this HEAD that he is wrong. New Mexico KEEP ON TRACK.
GET A LIFE. You sound like an old broken record. LOL
Enough is enough. Can you tell me about the next district convention in Northern California? Or are you too busy with your chimes, mentiroso.
Truth from NM
Don't get so mad. Do you think Larry is getting rich? Why would anyone want to buy remakes of Apostolic songs? Then we are talking about apostolics the most uneducated people in the Christian Community.
Truth from NM, what kind of man was Bro. Huerta? Why is there a strong dislike for Bro. Huerta in the NM district? Did Bro. Huizar ever rebuke him?
anyone hear of two more, well-known pastor's that have left the assembly?
just heard about it this Sunday, but was not given any names??
any info out there?
Antonio regarding your comment "Let's get back to the issue of the elections and the residuals from this!"
Yes let's do! Update on Pastor Torres, the whistleblower of the gb wrongdoings of the 2006 elections, the one and only who would stand up to the gb and did not back down! The one who risked losing it all. The one who was stripped of not only of his duties as Bishop, or of the church that he worked so hard at building, even when he designed it himself, but even of his pastorship!
But did this defeat him?! NO because no one could strip him of the Lord! Not for a minute! The Lord has blessed Pastor Torres even in his darkest moments. Not only did the vast majority of his members stand by him, NO they did not, they stood with him! They stood with him, and they walked with him, and they are rejoicing with him for today is a great day for Pastor Torres and the beautiful congregation that God has given him. Today was the day of the "closing" of the church building that God has given them! It is a day of jubilation! The date set for our Inauguration is June 27th. Come one, come all!
The devil tried to destroy him but the Lord had very special things in store for him. Most importantly the church is growing by leaps and bounds, visitors abound and those visitors in turn are bringing in their families! It is miraculous and beautiful to see the Lord moving in our ranks. We are truly blessed!
As one of our old songs goes:
"No me desampararas, ni me dejaras. . . "
A great thank you to all of you who have prayed for Pastor Torres and his congregation. God Bless!
I hear the "Navy Seal" (Misael Zaragoza) from National City, CA who always said in his preachings "if pastors just fed their members well there wouldn't be no need for them to go elsewhere." Yeah! yeah! yeah! Now, I hear the "yes man" of Daniel Sanchez lost 100 members that left with the pastor of the English service. What happened? I guess they weren't fed enough.
Hola a todos ya regrese su gran amigo el pestayo.cuentenme todos los chismesillos please como andan todos.saludos.
Porfa, escribanlo todo en Espanol no sean garzas muchachos, que el otro Idioma no lo mastico.soy mojarin pues de mero guerrero donde si ay pantalones saludos a Bldemar.wily.saul.Abel>Salvador.y todos los buenos revolucionaros con causa.
Bueno ya nadie lee este blog.o que pasa mis valientes veo de los que cantan y venden pos no los compren no los agan ricos cobrenles regalias pues bueno digo yo.
Pestoso, oh Pestoyo, si no sabe lo que esta pasando, pues no comente nada en el blog. Oh lo mandamos para el otro lado del rio.
Nomas vino a leer chimes?
That is not all I hear that this is his second division back to back I guess even though he says yes to the GB his congregation says no. lol
Camindo Voy:
Good comment to Antonio, that
we should keep up on the
elction etc.,
And for Bishop Torres..
Well lot of people are going
to attend the glorious Dedication
ceremony. We'll see you there.
Lord willing!!!
But like News from NM we do
have to continue to tell people
not to be "scammed" by this
what ever his name is , that
has stolen the "rights" of
the Old Apostolic songs, writers>
Something that did not
belong to that person Rios.
I knew him years ago and he
was so mean and ugly. Now he
is worse.
He has not ethics, that's
right. He is really stealing.
If he wasn't he would give
the Royalties to the Old Song
Writers like the Lawrence Salazar
kin are receiving.
The other song writer's family
also have a "right to receive
royalties.
Keep blogging News from NM.
Horray for heros like you!
God Bless.
I agree, don't buy any C/ D/'s
anyone until recognition
and credit due is giving to
the all the song writers's
families!!!!!! ALL IS
FAIR....OR IT SHOULD BE FAIR.
Like Arnulfo Velasquez and
Bishop Lopez pastor of El Monte's
church. They have a right
ethically and morally to
those "royalties" from El Coro
Del Monte.
May the Lord rebuke L. Rios
and his followers, all phonies..
Its a matter of principal.
But no one cares, to stop
scamming the Apostolic Assembly!!!
I will pray in the name of Jesus
that no more purchases are made
on this clandestine sales, as
it was already said by News
from NM!!
God bless you Apostolics and
friends!!!
THANKS CAMINDO...SEE YOU
IN MIDLAND, LORD WILLING.....
fROM L. A. District...
Are you from New Orleans, Alexandra, Baton Rouge or where
in L.A.?
Well if you are from the bayou, then you surely are one of the Rios!
I did not know there were Hopi
Indians in Louisana!
Stop defending them..
You too are part of their conspiracy, as the Rios have been
always known for.
Scammers, liars and fraud..
We are tired of being scammed
by swindlers, wanna be rich,
to "help pay their house mortages, of $6,000.00 per month and their
Country Club dues to T. Time.
We are tired of having our "rights"
taken away from the Old Time Apostolic Song writers.
And even having a VISA AND MASTER CARD LOGO, availible to scamm people....
How Dare you!!!!Rios cheaters,
and robbers.!!!
We will not stop blogging, until
this "fraud" is being taken
care of that the other 200 names of the The families of the Apostolic Song writers are also
given their fair dues of royalties.
Please Apostolics and friend, do
not purchase any more song from these
Rios scammers.
They need the money for their
house mortage, utility bills, and
their country club dues.
Why should the monies of the Apostolic songs help subsidise their
extravance.
The Rios say you and I cannnot live
in their neighbor hood, because
'NO MEXICANS LIVE THERE."
BUT SURELY MEXICANS' MONEY ON STOLEN CAN SURELY HELP TO PAY FOR THEIR MONTHLY BILLS...
THE RIOS HAVE DONE SO MUCH WRONG
TO THE APOSTOLIC ASSEMBLY..EVERYONE HERE AT CRUCES, RUNS AWAY FROM THEM...
WE CONSIDER THEM NUTS...
THEY WANNA BECOME RICH AND SPENDFUL
ON OUR SONGS!!!
HOW DARE YOU SCAMMERS.
GO AND SCAM SOMEONE ELSE...
SELL "SNOW TO THE ESkimos..
ITS THE SAME THING..."SELLING "OUR" SONGS TO US...WHEN THEY REALLY
ARE OURS!!!
AND NOT YOUR'S BACK SLIDERS!!!
To the Truth from New Mexico.
What makes you an authority on these Apostolic Old songs?
I agree with you that eventhough, someone could record it differently in a different beat and also copyright material. But we are suppose to be dealing with "so called Christians," trying to bless the "shut in and discouraged." and don't forget "free donations"!!!
But it is true what you say. Enough scamming has gone far enough!!!
I also feel that other families that "their" songs have blessed us for so many years should be "paid money" as they established a fund raising fund for the Salazars.
Going through the Himario there are so many names. Gaxiola, Alvares, Herrrera, Nava, Cota, Ortega, B. Rodriguez, E. Sesma, Leon Morales, d. Morales, L. Borjorges, Marcial de la Cruz, E. Valverde, N. Rangel, L. Alvarez,
S. Nunez, F. Garcia, F. L. Llorente, C. Lerma, and so many others. it would take all night to list them.
But maybe I can give the list to Henry or Scotty and have them scan
all the names from the Himario.
Some more are in the song book De Suprema Alavanza and Himnos de Gloria, and of Melodias from Brother Craigen..
Wow! How unfair., only one family gets royalties.??..What does Rios think the rest are "suckers"...or "stupid..."
Well I have spoken to many of the songs writer's children, and they are really mad because no recognition is given to their parent song writers., nor royalties as the Salazar's family duefully are receiving.
Thanks Truth from New Mexico.
Keep up the great work...
We will soon all be "on wave" (focused)!!!!
Don't buy...PROTECT YOUR RIGHTS!!!...Protect your church and your songs.!
p.s.
RIOS, The song Missionero que Anuncias" was not written for D. Jauhall.
It was written for Bishop Roberto
Saavedra who used to congregate
near here in Woodlake where the song writer Pastor Santos Rodriguez pastored. The father of Pastor Alfred Rodriguez.
The Song writer who also is "not getting any royalties to his family was Pastor Santos Rodriguez.
D. Jauhall knows this is true..
D. Jauhall is always "over
zealous about himself."
Truth from NM we welcome your tremendous "insight"
Thanks for the awakening!!!
We need to keep ALERT ON THESE
SCAMMERS!!
GOD BLESS YOU TFNM!!!!
Al Chavo de LA.la neta no se de que hablan Informame y si figate que si soy chismoso ya que me encanta saber de como se pelean ustedes entre si,para decirte algo lo de el padre alberto deberian de tomar el ejemplo de el.ya que a ustedes se los estan transiando pero bien gacho mi nero.oye cuentame de todos los chismes de ustedes.que paso con baldemar.avila.torrez.y todos losdemas.parese que les esta yendo bien o me equiboco.tu l A eres muy racista.examinate tu.pero si quieres echame la migra.que alcabo que.y chismoso si lo soy y que.trabajo para el flaco y la gorda.Un saludo a mi jente mexicana.
Para L A y Pensador y pensador.
que pelean ya muchachones de los derechos de autor si fue mangano o perengano salieron otros mas vivos y estos si los estan transiando legalmente y que compren lo qus que les de la gana.saludos a los rios.que si estan lucrando con la inosencia de otros echenle ganas agan mas dinero muchachos pero recuerden que los que si compran son mi gente mexicana.y que viva mexico senores con todo y sus z.la familia.y el golfo.ademas la gran corupcion como aqui.donde ustedes estan saludos a mki mi gente de mexico.
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Oye Payaso o Pestayo como te llames. Ya callate guey! Tus pendejadas que hablas nos dan un mal nombre a los que deberas somos mexicanos. Ya callate y largate con tus cochinos sacerdotes que handan buscando muchachos (jotos).Porque no les llevas esa informacion al gordo y la flaca.
Pinchi pendejo como todo chilango ignorante y estupido!
For those who are wondering "what in the world is going on with Pastor Torres" in Midland! Well let me fill you in this man who was thrown into the pit and sold by his brothers is now in the palace enjoying the blessings and promises of God!
GOD IS GOOD!!!!!
Enjoy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiNdcF0ssHU
Seeing the Web page.
I could not believe what I read.!
Here is D. Jauhall "claiming" that the song "Misionero que Anuncias" was written in "his honour" by the Pastor that used to be my uncle's Pastor in Woodlake.
"Misionero que Anuncias" in rememberce of my uncle Bishop Roberto Saavedra.
In that web page of D. Jauhall, where he recommends a man that Juahall knows to be "out of the Assembly" and whose wife married to this man Rios is "pictured" in the Rios web page in "pantalones"..
He really despised women... ...enough to send the Apostolic Women to hell and damanation!!!
Now he is endorsing the songs of tuneless and flat song playing of this person L. Rios who is "selling" the song "Misionero que Anuncias" composed by Pastor Santos Rodriguez, monies of these sales! of L. Rios., and his non-profit.!
L. Rios is "tropyman in the Blogs, claims he is from here in California, and his partner in "fraud" is "Chumina" in the blogs., who write so bad about The General Board and also "HATE" THE APOSTOLIC CHURCH AND ITS MEMBERS.
And YOUR NERVE YOUR NERVE TO 'ENDORSE" their fraudlent "scamming sales.
That the Rios have a non-profit"
named "Hopi"..as the other bloggers say..
Okay so Jauhall has always needed "money"., but give also to the Family of the Rodriguez's what is "ethically and respectfully" theirs.
But he "fizzled" out....But his name "WAS" in the orginal "whistle" blower's
But to 'ENDORSED" this man Rios'
personal "non profit" and encourage RIOS to sell the songs, for PERSONAL GAIN OF THE FINANCIALLY STRUGGLYING RIOS...
Then that's the limit!. Because why
should we Apostolics have to subsidized the Rios finances? as the previous blogger said, and also who ever is "pastayo..."
AND SO MANY OTHER APOSTOLICS THAT DO NOT WRITE IN THESE BLOGS...
Its the limit D. Jauhall. You were always so against, "back sliders", and had no mercy on them., blackballing so many young pastors..and people that "really did the work in the Mission field, like Brother Felix Montero and Paublo Chan and Brother Aranga, who went UPC,
Now you,Jauhall are "white washing" yourself, and now you "ENDORSED"
"THESE SCANNERS., people, that many others you condemned for "women wearing pants., and even blouse broaches or fancy ornamented pins."
people who are fraudlently stealing the song writer's families dues to them...
No respect....What's going on with you? And L. Rios?
If the Rios has fiancial problems, let them go back to work. Maybe he can be a "golfer's" cart driver.
EXCEPT BLACKBALLING YOUNG MINISTERS AND ESPECIALLYCONTROLLING "ABEL AGUILAR "
AND IT GOT YOU D. JAUHALL NO WHERE... WITH THE SAME as "Mardoquello"
My uncle told us you never had any ministerial help so you were so
"unfullfilled" with the one from Sweet Water and Sanger...
Respect the works of others.
Okay the song thing is old news already. Move on to current events like Zaragosa church.
How many people left I hear 100 or more frome his english ministry what about his spanish ministry that is sad to complete different congregations turning on you. I can understand one but two of them.
Zaragosa split was agreed to and annointed! The truth is that brother wants to grow an new generation of apostolic prophets.
To all you speakers of inquinity! Tri_Unifed Prophet Reverend Montenegro, republican legalslator was happiliey marreid in holy matrimony this weekend past. May the Lord continue to do a mighty and awesome work for the Lord in his chosen young prophet!
Amen!
Do you hear the oxymoron how do you grow from pushing out other people you do not even believe the lies you are trying to tell us.
Zaragosa may have his experience in being a navy seal but we see that experience did not help him in the church realm.
Or maybe it did because of the tough position he grew a tough character and since the church is the Lord's and not his I quess he saw nothing wrong with running people out of his church.
If it was agreed to why with two different congrgations. He once said If pastor's don't feed the flock that is giving them an oppurtunity to leave. I quess he did not know how to feed his flock.
So it was agreed to by two different congregations that they would both leave.
That does not even sound logical.
Lehan...
So why don't you go and do a
"better" job at Zargosa's church?
That's the problem with having,
two different lanuage speaking
congregations.
The Senior Pastor "trusts" the
English speaking Pastor to maintain
that english speaking congregation
as part as the main church.
So then the English speaking,
who was given "free reign," overturns, and back stabs the Senior Pastor, let say Zaragosa, and then "makes" a split and takes
the "Gringos" and forms his own
congregation.
Pretty dirty what you did Lucas
Dominguez.., to spit the National
City church. Just because Lucas plays the piano does not mean he can preach.
But then I knew this was coming to
Pastor Zargosa, because he had too many "invited Evangelists, every week to "preach" and there for
accustomed his congregation to do
without him.
Knowning Pastor Zaragosa for years., I knew like so many from the Delano area that "were not called" "Follow me" was not applicable to them..
You can feel it, when you hear them
"trying to say one simple prayer",
way out of "focus."
That's what happens when a "wanna" be Pastor "sets up his domain in
someone else's foundation."
The Bible clearly speaks negatively on "building" on someone
else's foundation.
It is better...to start in a home study group, and let the Lord
build "your church"..
And not take over someone else's
"foundation" as Pastor Zaragosa did on Pastor Francisco Morales.!
It was "just a matter of time."
And this domain would "come tumbling down."
"Preach the Word, exhort," which
means to encorage, not kill!
The Apostol Paul wrote to Timothy.
What a shame.
But if you want to get into the subject. LEHAN
Then
YOU take over.!
Okay? Fine.....
Lehan....your "issue" is Zaragosa?
"OURS" IS ABOUT SCAMMERS, CHEATERS, AND UN ETHICAL AND DISRESPECTFUL
SCAMMERS.
ON THE FAMILIES AND DUTIFUL ETHICAL RIGHTS OF THE APOSTOLIC
SONG WRITERS..
THEIR WORKS AND EFFORTS...
YOU "POST ON ZARAGOSA,"
WE'LL CONTINUE TO AGREE WITH THE OTHER BLOGGERS ON THE SCAMMERS,
IN DIRE NEED RIOS....SCAMMERS.
"TO EACH HIS OWN AGENDA"
Keep on posting News from New Mexico., on the Rios's scam..
WhatS "OLD NEWS about it Lehan!????
It very "present news"...Happening scamming "right now" Ain't nothing
"old" about the scamming...
And the stealing of songs, and the lack of respect not to give the
rightful dues of monies to the
designated families of the Apostlic song writers..
If the Rios, "HAVE BEENSS:, Apostolics,
basis against Mexicans...
but wanting out "much needed monies" to pay their house mortage, as News from NMEX states, and also paying for "their utilities"..
Well its not "old news" Its "now
news."
The songs may be old,but the Rios even have a Visa and Master Card..
It takes money to do this. Scammers., and it must be bringing
in monies that are not "theirs" but stolen...
What "Old newes"
about that Lehan?
And the Rios hate the General Board, the Assembly and especially
you who is an apostolic and all
of us Mexicans.
But they sure love "our" MEXICANS.... monies...
Poor things they even established
a non-profit, not to pay taxes..
Must be in "dire" need.
This issue, is "NOT OLD NEWS"
PLEASE RESPECT THE EFFORT OF OUR
APOSTOLIC SONG WRITERS. LEHAN!!!!
AND DO NOT ENDORSE THEM.
THE RIOS..... "HATE" OUR CHURCH, AND THEY HATE MEXICICANS., SINCE THE RIOS
ARE FROM THE "HOPI INDIANS" ROOTS.
BUT THEY SURE "LOVE TO SCAM US WITH OUT MONIES."!!!
"OLD NEWS. HA!!!"
KEEP IT UP111
NEWS FROM NEW MEXICO.....
THANKS FOR ALL YOUR INFO.
Factsonly and when are you going
to get married. Please invite us!
GOOD FOR BROTHER MONTENEGRO..
CONGRATULATIONS.....
GOOD PEOPLE.,
!Smart.............Geah!
God bless them...
The Lord is good and His wonders he preforms.Amen...
Bloggers:
Keep up the good work on defending
Our Church!!!
Get the back sliders, scammers Rios out of our "pockets"
What dues they owe us...will be
brought to court.
And good for that...
Good work being there etc.,
Lehan we will pray for you.
God bless you...
Give us more info on Southern Cal., what does John Sanchez say on all this?
Get RID OF SCAMMERS.Rios on "our Apostolic old songs monies......
DO NOT BUY FROM THEM!!!!
NOR DO NOT SEND THEM DONATIONS, TO
HAVE THEM PAY THEIR $6,000.00 PER
MONTH HOUSE MORTAGE AND UTILITIES...
FAIR IS FAIR ON DISTRIBUTIONS
OF THE SONG WRITER'S HEIR DUES..
NOT JUST "ONE" BUT ALL...
GOOD WORK., BLOGGERS...
THANKS BLOG MASTER...
For Louisana District:
Oh , so scamming people is okay with you.
So cheating and lying about who
to give Royalties from the Old Apostolic song writer's is fine.
So lying that the song Misionero
que Anuncias was for D.Jauhall.
So, asking the Mexicans to buy
snow as to the Eskimos.
Since these songs belong to the Apostolic song writer's families, and to the Apostolic Assembly which is us.!!!!
So that the Rios can claim that they had a good up bringing with
socery and eggs mixed to voodoo people, ask anyone here at Cruces.
So that the Rios have not congregated at any Apostolic Church for over 30- years!
So no Pastor of the AA in New Mexico will have them in their congregations.
So that they have a Visa and Master Card Logo and a non =profit, to SCAM THE BRETHREN,
and the Rios do not pay taxes.
So that they have to sell "our songs
without any remorse, ethics and
no morals to pay their house mortage of $6,000.00 per month!!!
So they except the Apostolic Mexicans , as they call us to ALSO SEND "DONATIONS", for their "DIRE
NEEDS FINANCIALLY..
And you from Louisana District,
call them an UPSTANDING APOSTOLIC family!!!
YOU MUST BE ONE OF THEIR SCAMMER
RELATIVES....
BECAUSE PLEASE CONTRADICT ME AND "TELL US ALL BLOGGERS" WHAT APOSTOLIC CHURCH THE RIOS ATTEND...
AND WHO IS "THEIR PASTOR" IN THE AA?
You are just as much a "liar" and a cheat...
Just read the blogs of "trophy man" and Chumina which both names are their's and then you will
"read how much the Rios "hate the General Board, Sanchez, Pacheco, Valverde, Aguilar and all the rest.
Trophy man is Rios, he names himself "trophy man because of
his "wanna be" golfer.
Chumina wrote and deleted the blog that we could not live in their vacinity, because IT IS AN EXCLUSIVE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHERE "NO MEXICANS LIVE"..
well we being 'MEXICAN" CANNOT LIVE
THERE BUT we sure "can" be expected
to be 'SCAMMED' TOO.SO I DO NOT GET SCAMMED AND BUY ANYTHING THAT DOES NOT "BELONG TO THEM"..
THOSE SONGS ARE "OURS" SO THEN GIVE US "ROYALTIES" AS THEY HAVE THE SALAZAR'S KIN!!!
FAIR IS FAIR...
WHAT A JOKE TO "WANNA GET "RICH" ON "OUR SONGS"..
LOSERS!!!THEY HAVE ALWAYS BEEN!
PLEASE BROTHERS AND SISTERS DO NOT
"ORDER ANY MORE C. D. FROM THE RIOS., TO MAKE THEMSELVES "RICH"
WHEN THE RIOS "HATE" WITH A PASSION THE APOSTOLIC ASSEMBLY AND ITS "LEADERS", PASTORS AND MEMBERS...
THE RIOS ARE "USERS" AND HAVE ALWAYS BEEN CHEATERS. AND WANT TO
MAKE FOOLS OF US!!
We can see "right through you"
"Lousiana District"
You are "one" of them too.
Hermanos y Hermanas:
Nosotros vivimos awui en Cruces, en Nuevo Mexico,
Y nos da mucha pena que nuestra iglesia esta siendo "otra vez sido
enganada con "ventas" clandestinas' de personas que ni aun se "congregan" en la Asamblea Apostolica ni en ninguna otra Iglesia Apostolica.
Estos himnos permanecen a La Asamblea y a los hermanos autores
de nuestra Iglesia.
Estas personas que son vencinas de
nosotros siempre estan"criticando
y hablando MUY MAL DE todos nosotros , pastores y MESA Directiva...
Ellos tienen agun el Logo de Master Card Y Visa para que ordenos
estos cantos para total ganancia de ellos..
La mujer retratada en pantalones, y la vemos en el Mal toda pintada, y en pantalones..
No tienen nada de escrupulo, y todo este dinero no lo comparten
con las familias de los "autores".
Pero si le dan solamente a una
familia, y no a la demas.!!!
estos son amargados que aun que
dicen que su padre fue pastor,
Ni esto les da temor de Dios de
estar "negando" los '"REGALIAS"
A LAS FAMILIAS DE LOS APOSTOLICOS
AUTORES.
DICEN QUE ellos viven en una vecindad "exclusiva" que no se permiten Mexicanos, como nosotros.
Pero si nuestro dinero "esta muy bueno para ellos.
Tambien piden donaciones., porque
necesitan que les ayudenos a pagar
su "pago de su casa, que dicen que es $6,000.00 por mes!!!
No es nuestra culpa de sus "problemas" financieras., pero
aun los piden "donaciones" y
dineros por cantos que son Apostolicos., pero toda la 'GANANCIAS SON PARA LOS RIOS.
Y NADA PARA LOS "AUTORES".
No les patronise!!!
Solo quieren "hacerce ricos" con
fraude de himnos, sin dar dinero
a las familias que son como 200
en los himnarios.
Gracias por la memmoria de aquellos
pioneros que nos degaron estos
cantos.
Pero no para "torpes ganancias"
propias...para hacerce ricos...
To Mentiras from NM:
I don't know that there is a $6,000.00 a month type of home in Cruces. The last time I was there I remember nothing but $70,000.00 homes and lots of mobile homes!LOL!! You sound a little on the bitter side of life!
FYI I am not Larry Rios nothing against him!! They are great people! I don't pay $6,000.00 a month on my home! FYI my home is all paid for! Here in Huntington beach the view is just incredible!
I know you are so concerned with people taking advantage of copyrights, so why don't you advice Valverde that what he does with all his TBN sermons that have copyrights is against the law!LOL!!
By the way have you ever googled the name Reverend Daniel Sanchez? Try it! You will find that he was involved with a pothead hippie (Eric Clapton) early on in his AA ministry! All done secretly you see why he does what he does? Do it, google it, you little amargadito!!! LOL!
You Fool!
To: Memories
So you are the blog Master. And you permit bloggers to cuss, lie,
slander, and write all those cochinadas on your blog?
Isn't it against the law to slander, and harrass someone? Think about it. They might come and investigate you. You are the Blog Master.
From Oldies from the 60s said...
To: Memories
If you are the blog Master listen to the advice that From LA District is giving you. I too know the Rios Family. I know they are a compassion family. However in placing a long distance call to Larry this past weekend it was mentioned that they are know contemplating legal action. This comes from a law that was signed by President Bush back on January 10, 2006.
NEW LAW - Annoying Anonymous bloggers may be Felons!
January 10, 2006
On January 5, 2006, President Bush signed into law a prohibition on transmitting annoying messages about people without disclosing their true identity. When enforced, the criminal sanctions of this law heralds the end of anonymous bloggers spewing forth libel and defamation with no fear of retribution, and this new law that should have a immediate positive impact on blogging and improve the reliability and verifiability of information published on the web.
You can read more about this law pertaining to what has occured from some of the bloggers pertaining to slander, defamation of persons and not disclosing their true identity.
Follow the advice given to you by From LA District before it is too late.
I know that the Rios Family is willing to forget, however you need to put a stop to this blogger The Truth From New Mexico as well as Curiosity.
Like I mentioned, I am a friend and have known the family for many years. I am NOT a member of your church organization. I am a very proud Member of the Assemby of God Church. I will be keeping in touch with the Rios family. I am also planning a trip to Las Cruces to visit with them.
If you plan to blog know what the law says before you write.
But not everyone agrees that this law applies to blogs, message boards and forums. This anonymous blogger (who claims to be an attorney) says that the law was intended to prevent cyberstalking and it may not apply to bloggers because the law states that the annoying message must be lewd and it must be "transmitted".
http://kipesquire.powerblogs.com/posts/1136853945.shtml
“The extension to "the Internet" is referring to one who "makes a telephone call or utilizes a telecommunications device." A computer can be a "telecommunications device," but a blog cannot.
--Also lost in the hysteria is the fact that the "transmission" must be "obscene, lewd, lascivious, filthy, or indecent." Again, I'm not endorsing the law or the amendment generally, or these terms specifically. But it deserves repeating that it is
not
now a crime merely to have an anonymous blog or to post an anonymous message on Usenet that somebody, somewhere, finds "annoying."”
Mr. Kip fails to recognize that the act of publishing a blog comment or message board posting is clearly a transmission, but hey, we will leave it for the courts to decide.
In this article John Stith notes that people now have the right to report anonymous blogger annoyance crimes to the FBI, but that the FBI may not have the resources to bring the Felons to justice:
Apreciables Hermanos:
El individo Rios de aqui de Cruces, esta muy procupado, porque dice el mismo QUE RIOS ES ...Trophy Man, Chumina, Oldies y Goodies, y Lousiana Dist., que nos van a llevar a la corte porque estamos defamadoles.
PERO RIOS QUE ESTA "robando,fraude, sin 'RESPECTO, LEALTAD, NI ETHICA CRISTIANA DE VENDER LOS CANTOS APOSTOLICOS PARA SUS PRIOPIAS GANACIAS.
Que de eso de llevarlo a las Corte, a ese "vividor"., que aborece a La Mesa Directiva, a la Asamblea y a todos nosotros Pastores, y miembros.!
LAS FAMILIAS DE LOS HERMANOS PIONEROS AUTORES DE MAS DE 200 HIMNOS APOSTOLICOS NO ESTAN RECIBIENDO NINGUN CENTAVO, NI RESPECTO, NI NADA. TODO ES PARA L. RIOS, "UN VIVIDOR", QUE SIEMPRE HA SIDO.
Dice que con estos dineros el sigue pagando su casa, y se esta ayudando en todos sus fianacias.
A el robo de nuestros Himnos., y de los familirias de los autores pioneros que son mas de 200 himnos!
SEGUN DICEN RIOS , el SE ESTA CONGRAGADO CON LAS ASAMBLEAS DE DIOS.,
TAMBIEN HACIENDO FRAUDE CON ELLOS, SOBRE "NUESTROS HIMNOS.
RIOS QUE ABORECE A LA MESA DIRECTIVA, VEASE LOS BLOGS DE "TROPHY MAN, CHUMINA, OLD BUT GOODIES Y LOUSIANA , escriben muy grave mente contra la Asamblea y la Mesa directiva.
Esto tambien en May 5, a las 7:30 p.m. escribe "trophy man, (Rios )muy mal contra en Secretario de Misiones Arturo Espinoza.,
Por esto tambien puede Arturo Espinoza llevarles a la corte.
Hermanos por favor no les oreden
mas c. D. a este individo Rios.
Alli nos veremos en la corte, Rios, con tu fraude y no tener ni respecto para los autores de himnos Apostolicos. Ni a las familias.
Rios tiene un logo de VISA Y Master Card, un NO LUCRATIVA", NON PROFIT, PARA NO PAGAR IMPUESTOS,
y TODOS LAS GANANCIAS SON PARA EL .
Miren a la esposa de el en Pantalones, QUE dice D. Jauhall de esto? cuando D. Jauhall es tan legalista, pero para receivir dinero de el himno Misionero que Anuncias, escrito por Pastor S. Rodriguez, entonces Jauhall, no dice nada.!
Este dinero de ese himno..debe de enviarse a la familia de Bishop Alfredo Rodriguez, hijo de el hermano S. Rodriguez.
Este himno fue escrito para la honora de Dios, y en memoria de el Obispo Roberto Saavedra, no para D. Jauhall!
No oreden mas c. D.'s a Rios que es trinos, vendidos, sin respecto para la Asamblea ni a las familias
de los autores.
Oremos para que nuestra Iglesia "YA NO SEA 'VICTIMA DE FRUADE DE TORPES GANANCAIS...
ORE AL SENOR JESUS QUE EL REPREDA A ESTE INDIVIDO VIVIDOR RIOS!
DESPIERTEN HERMANOS; YA BASTA DE FRUADES!
QUE YA NO NOS ENGANEN MAS!
GRACIAS!
Dios contesta la oracion!
Dear Brethren:
Really the Rios individual is quite 'enraged", because his "golden egg: is being "exposed"
Well go ahead, Oldies, Trophy (golfer) and Louisana District, take us all to court.
How will you look,when Rios has "scammed the brethren" for over four (4) years with his nonprofit, (so he doesn't have to pay taxes) and also the VISA and Master Card Logo, to have all the
brethren purchase his "frudulent"
'STEALING" of OUR APOSTOLIC SONGS.,
WITH NO RESPECT, LOYALTY, NO ETHICS, NO ROYALTIES GIVEN TO OVER 200 OF THE SONG WRITER'S APOSTOLIC FAMILIES...
RIOS, HATES THE AA., GENERAL BOARD, AND SPEAKS ON MAY 5, 2009 AT 7:30 P.M. SO BADLY AGAINST THE SECRETARY OF MISSIONS ARTIE ESPINOZA.,,
If you say Trophy you are from La. District, (Lousiana), then how do you know so much about Odessa, Texas? CRUCES, IS JUST ACROSS FROM ODESSA!
And you get so defensive, and in total denial of the "fraud you are doing with the AA song's and the asons writer's families.
If D. Jauhall is so in accord with you, he is totally losing it, because that song Misionero que Anuncias was written by Pastor Santos Rodriguez, in memory of Bishop Roberto Saavedra, and not d. Jauhall. What a lie....typical of D. J.
D. Juahall condemmed so many APOSOTOLIC ladies to hell for " face foundation, always measuring skirts, and etc., such lealists., has something "big time against our Apostolic ladies" ????
so how does he tolerate Chumina, wearing pants in your Web page picture.!
Boy...some can and other's can't
You know why...because no ones likes you L. Rios. You are so bitter, and always since you were in your teens, always looking out for the "almighty" buck...
Always...money hungry, expoiting the "innocent hermanos..
Now that you are with the Assemblies of God. God save them...
Just ask about your Dad to any Pastor of N.M..wow!
So don't white wash your self on his "coat tails. You have always
messed people up. Back talker, and always anger, bitterness, and
"NO RESPECT FOR ANY OF THE CLERGY">
you need to be explosed, as a "vividor", greedy and selfish.,
EXTREME LOW SELF ESTEEM.
THAT IS WHY YOU HATE SO MUCH THE AA., AND ALL OF US.!
BRETHREN, PLEASE PRAY FOR THIS "FRAUD TO BE THOU REMOVED."
IN THE NAME OF JESUS !
ENOUGH "FRAUD" HAS OUR CHURCH SUFFERED.
PLEASE BRETHREN DO NOT PURCHASE ANY C. D.'S FROM THIS "NON RESPECT, NOR FAIRNESS, SCAMMER!!!
THANK YOU BRETHREN:
Thank you Trophyman, and oldies but goodies.
From New Mexico is going to be surprise because I know the Rios Family my friends, and if they say they are taking legal action, they WILL DO IT. They don't lie, when they say they are going to do something, they do it.
So New Mexico, keep harrassing the Rios Family the more you open your month, mas mal te va ir. Legal Action is coming. Don't be too surprise because it will come.
That is interesting that Daniel Sanchez would marry Eric Clapton. Most AA pastor's would cringe at the thought of marrying a non-apostolic. Even though most of them will do it in secret for their favorites. Like Sam Valverde did for Ryan Hernandez and Nathaniel Ochoa's grandaughter who got pregnant recently.
Que tiene el tal rios a quien demandara ya que aqui escribimos puro ateo.ateo.popular Ateo.mas popular.Ateo mucho mas popular ..catolicos vease padre alberto,apostolicos como ustedes.enojones reganones y medios indibiduos.Bueno pos ponganle ojo a Rios.porfa..
L.A. District:Trophy Man Oldies,
Rios:
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE TAKE US ALL TO COURT!!!!!!!
WE TOO HAVE ALOT TO EXPOSE ON "YOUR RECORD, YOUR NON COMPLIANCE CHARACTER, AND YOUR LIES AND DEFAULT WITH THE CLERGY OF THE PASTORS IN NEW MEXICO!
WE WOULD LOVE TO GO AND REALLY SEE YOU "BE EXPOSED" FOR YOUR HIWAY ROBBERY TO OUR "APOSTOLIC SONGS".
WE HAVE DISCUSEED THIS THROUGHLY..and we have at least 100 songs that have been copyrighted in Washington, D. C.
So you Rios must keep your solemn word and take us all to Court.
So you can be exposed for "fraud"
lies, and deceit and no respect to the elders of the song writers., and to their families.
What has you Rios, right under the barrell is the "smoking gun" you have on giving and providing Royalties to a couple of the song writer's families.AND NOT TO THE OTHER 200 OR MORE SONG WRITER'S FAMILIES...
YOU HAVE ESTABLISHED A NON-PROFIT AND A VISA AND MASTERCARD LOGO TO "SCAMM US ALL"..
"IN THE NAME OF MAINTAINING "OUR OLD SONGS" FOR YOUR "OWN PROFIT GAIN!"
HOW SHRUD CAN YOU BE SCAMMER.
WHEN YOU DO NOT EVEN ATTEND THE APOSTOLIC ASSEMLY IN "NO CHURCH HERE IN NEW MEXICO. YOU HAVE BEEN "NOTHING" BUT PROBLEMS SINCE YOU STARTED TO BREATH.
YOU HAVE CAUSE NOTHING BUT PROBLEMS..AND "YOU KNOW IT!
SO THAT WILL ALL COME OUT ON YOUR "CHARACTER REFERENCES"..
WE HAVE "PLENTY"
YOU AND "CHUMINA" EN PANTALONES!
What is going to BE TRUE EVIDENCE IS "proof of the "smoking gun" you have"..on true evidence!
WHAT ???? gives you the right to give Royalties to some FAMILIES and to others NO.!!!
THIS SHOWS THAT YOU ARE A CHEAT, A LIAR AND SCAMMER OF THESE SONGS THAT BELONG TO THE APOSTOLIC ASSEMBLY AND TO THE SONG WRITER'S FAMILIES AND "THEIR ESTATE."
YOU ARE MAKING "MEGA DOLLARS" ON OUR SONGS, TO PROVIDE FOR YOUR FINANCES DIFICULTIES!!!
you have been doing this for "over 4 years. selling c. d.'s at $54.00 dollars and BEGGING, PEDDLYING FOR "THE FAMOUS DONATIONS"..
SAME "OLD SCAMMER".
WE ARE "TIRED OF BEING SCAMMED...
"ENOUGH"!
THEN WHAT CHUMINA WROTE THAT WE AS MEXICANS CANNOT LIVE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, BECAUSE "MEXICANS" DO NOT LIVE THERE.
YET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU WANT "OUR MEXICAN HARD EARN MONEY FOR PURCHASE TO "OUR OWN SONGS"..
LIKE SELLING THE "SNOW TO THE ESKIMOS", THAT ALREADY "HAVE "THEIR OWN SNOW!"
YOU TURN AROUND AND "SELL 'OUR SONGS TO US "APOSTOLICS".....OUR OWN SONGS...
TAKE US TO COURT....PLEASE WE BEG YOU. SO EVERYONE CAN FIND OUT WHAT A "LIAR YOU ARE"!!!
AND WHAT YOU TROPHY MAN AND CHUMIONA AND OLDIES, AND LOUSIANA DISTRICT (LA DISTRICT) HAVE WRITTEN ABOUT THE GENERAL BOARD AND BISHOP VALVERDE, SANCHEZ, PACHECO, AND ARTURO ESPINOZA!!
YOU RIOS, PRETEND TO "BE THE GENERAL BOARD FRIENDS, SO YOU CAN GET "RICH" ON THE APOSTOLIC ASSEMBLY SONGS!! AND "SCAMMMMMM US MORE AND MORE ON OUR "OWN SONGS".
MAKING YOUR SELF RICH!!!ON WHAT IS NOT YOURS.!
MAYBE "ERIC CLAPTON" WILL ALSO BE INTERESTED ON WHAT ALL YOU WROTE ABOUT HIM,
CONCERNING BISHOP SANCHEZ PERFORMING HIS WEDDING CEREMONY IN TUCSON, ARIZONA!
YOU TROPHY, CHUMINA, OLDIES AND LOUISANA (L.A. DISTRICT HAVE "WRITTEN DEPLORABLE THINGS ON THE GENERAL BOARD, ( THE MESA DIRECTIVA) AND THE "ENTIRE" APOSTOLIC ASSEMBLY WITH YOUR "FRAUD" TO THE APOSTOLIC SONG WRITERS.
YOU RIOS "DETERMING" AND TAKING INTO YOUR OWN ACCOUNT THESE SONGS THAT ARE "NOT YOURS".!
"ROBON"...ROBBER, THIEF THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE!!!
GETTING RICH AS YOU ARE SO LAZY, ON "OUR SONGS!
SEE YOU IN COURT!
WE TOO HAVE OUR OWN "TO SHOW CAUSE".
BRETHREN HERMANOS Y HERMANAS APOSTOLICOS... PLEASE DO NOT CONTINUE TO MAKE THIS MAN "RIOS" RICH,
NOR CONTINUE TO CONTRIBUTE TO HELP WITH "HIS HARD
ON FINANCIAL PROBLEMS.
THANK YOU BROTHERS AND SISTERS..
PLEASE DO NOT CONTINUE TO BE "SCAMMED"..
APRECIABLES HERMANOS Y HERMANAS APOSTOLICOS.
DICE EN LOS BLOGS "RIOS,, ESCRIBIENDO (LA DISTIRCT, LOUISANA)
RIOS ES EL INDIVIDO QUE ESTA BENDIENDO "NUESTROS HIMNOS APOSTOLICOS PARA LAS PROPIAS
GANANCIAS TORPES, DE EL MISMO "RIOS".
DICE...PORQUE ESTA MUY MUY ENOJADO, POR QUE SU "FRADULENTE NEGOCIO DE VENTAS DE NUESTROS HIMNOS...
QUE NOS VA A LLEVAR A LA CORTE, PORQUE LE ESTAMOS " HACIENDO MAL A EL NEGOCIO DE MAS DE 4 LARGOS ANOS, DE QUE ESTA VENDIENDO "LOS HIMNOS APOSTOLICOS.
DANDO REGALIAS A "UNAS DOS" FAMILIAS, PORQUE "POBRE DE RIOS SI NO SE LOS DA>'
PERO SE ESTA ENRIQUECIENDO CON NUESTROS HIMNOS APOSTOLICOS.
MUCHO DE ESTOS HIMNOS YA ESTAN REGISTRADOS EN WASHINGTON D. C. COMO MAS DE 100 CANTOS.
PERO ESTE HOMBRE RIOS DE AQUI DE CRUCES, ESTA "MUY ENOJADO" PORQUE YA SUS VENTAS FRAUDULENTS DE "NUESTROS HIMNOS" SE ESTAN
DISMINULLENDO!
SE LE ESTA "SACUDIENDO SU NIDO DE HACERCE RICO, CON NUESTROS HIMNOS..
Y COMO DICE RIOS, AQUI EN CRUCES, QUE EL HA GANADO MUCHISIMO DINERO CON ESTOS CANTOS ANTIGUOS APOSTOLICOS...
PERO QUE RIO "ABORECE" A LA MESA DIRECTIVA, HABLA CON "TROPHY MAN" CHUMINA, OLDIES" Y DE lOUISANA, (LA DISTRICT)
MUY AMARGADO CONTRA NUESTRA IGLESIA, QUE EL Y LA CHUMINA, NO SE CONGREGAN POR MAS DE 30 ANOS.!
EN NINGUNA IGLESIA APOSTOLICA!
ESTE RIOS, SE "COJUE" DE LAS "FALDAS" DE EL SACO DE SU PADRE, ETIMIO QUE FUE PASTOR, MUY MUY PROBLEMATICO AQUI EN NUEVO MEXICO.
PERO INFUNDIO MUCHO ODIO Y AMARGARGURA CON SUS HIJOS.
AHORA DICE RIOS QUE NOS VA A LLEVAR A LA CORTE, Y QUE LO QUE EL DICE, LO CUMPLE..
PUES QUE LO CUMPLA!!!
NOSOTROS TAMBIEN TENEMOS MUCHISMO, MAL CONTRA EL MAL CARACTER DE RIOS...
SUS OIDIO, MAL CONPORTAMIENTO PARA CON LA ASAMBLEA APOSTOLICA, Y ODIO PARA TODOS LOS PASTORES AQUI EN CRUCES Y NUEVO MEXICO.
EL "ROBO" QUE ESTA HACIENDO RIOS, CON "NUESTROS CANTOS APOSTOLICOS" DE NO TENENER RESPECTO A LOS HIMNOLOGOS, NI A MAS DE 200 FAMILIARES DE LOS AUTORES DE HIMNOS.SIN RESPECTOK, NI ETICA NI CULTURA, NI CARACTER CRISTIANO DE PARTE DE ESTE INDIVIDO RIOS, QUE NOS ESTA ROBANDO NUESTROS DERECHOS, COMO APOSTOLICOS.!!!!
ESTO INDICA QUE ESTE INDIVIDO RIOS, ES UN "ROBON" SIN RESPECTO, NI ETICA, NI CONCIENCIA.
SE ESTA HACIENDO RICO. VENDIENDO LOS C. D.'S FOR $54.00 DOLLARES, Y SOLAMENTE A DOS FAMILIAS LES DA REGALDIAS.
POR FAVOR, HERMANOS Y AMIGOS NO COMPRE NI ORDENE MAS C. D.S PORQUE RIOS SE CONGREGA CON LAS ASAMBLEAS DE DIOS. Y NUNCA CON LA IGLESIA APOSTOLICA, NI DE MEXICO NI DE USA.
NINGUN PASTOR APOSTOLICO LO PUEDE SOPORTAR, ES MUY AMARGADO, Y ESTA MUY LISTO PARA "DEFRAUDAR" A TODOS...
Y SE HA BURLADO DE LA MESA DIRECTIVA, DICIENDO QUE ES AMIGO DE ELLOS..PERO SOLO PARA "EXPLOTARNOS" Y VENDERNOS A NOSOTROS MISMOS "NUESTROS PRIPIOS HIMNOS.."
QUE NOS LLEVE A LA CORTE!!!!!!!!!.
PARA QUE VEAMOS QUIEN ES RIOS, TROPHYMAN, CHUMINA, OLDIES Y (LA DISTRICT, LOUISANA)
QUE SON ESTOS REBELDES EN REALIDAD...
UN HIPOCRITA, CON LA ESPOSA EN PANTALONES,
Y DICE QUE NI AUN QUIERE A LA ASAMBLEA NI A NOSOTROS LOS PASTORES.
TAMBIEN NOSOTROS TENEMOS MUY BUENOS ABOGADOS. PRIMERAMENTE CRISTO ES NUESTRO SUPREMO ABOGADO, COMO DICE EL APOSTOL PAUBLO!
ORE HERMANOS PARA QUE DIOS NOS "LIBERTE DE SER MAS Y NUNCA MAS DEFRUDADOS!!! POR INDIVIDOS INGRATOS, Y QUE SE HACEN RICOS, HACIENDONOS FAUDE!
GRAICAS, QUIDE A SU IGLESIA, LA ASAMBLEA APOSTOLICA!
APRECIABLES HERMANOS Y HERMANAS APOSTOLICOS.
DICE EN LOS BLOGS "RIOS,, ESCRIBIENDO (LA DISTIRCT, LOUISANA)
RIOS ES EL INDIVIDO QUE ESTA BENDIENDO "NUESTROS HIMNOS APOSTOLICOS PARA LAS PROPIAS
GANANCIAS TORPES, DE EL MISMO "RIOS".
DICE...PORQUE ESTA MUY MUY ENOJADO, POR QUE SU "FRADULENTE NEGOCIO DE VENTAS DE NUESTROS HIMNOS...
QUE NOS VA A LLEVAR A LA CORTE, PORQUE LE ESTAMOS " HACIENDO MAL A EL NEGOCIO DE MAS DE 4 LARGOS ANOS, DE QUE ESTA VENDIENDO "LOS HIMNOS APOSTOLICOS.
DANDO REGALIAS A "UNAS DOS" FAMILIAS, PORQUE "POBRE DE RIOS SI NO SE LOS DA>'
PERO SE ESTA ENRIQUECIENDO CON NUESTROS HIMNOS APOSTOLICOS.
MUCHO DE ESTOS HIMNOS YA ESTAN REGISTRADOS EN WASHINGTON D. C. COMO MAS DE 100 CANTOS.
PERO ESTE HOMBRE RIOS DE AQUI DE CRUCES, ESTA "MUY ENOJADO" PORQUE YA SUS VENTAS FRAUDULENTS DE "NUESTROS HIMNOS" SE ESTAN
DISMINULLENDO!
SE LE ESTA "SACUDIENDO SU NIDO DE HACERCE RICO, CON NUESTROS HIMNOS..
Y COMO DICE RIOS, AQUI EN CRUCES, QUE EL HA GANADO MUCHISIMO DINERO CON ESTOS CANTOS ANTIGUOS APOSTOLICOS...
PERO QUE RIO "ABORECE" A LA MESA DIRECTIVA, HABLA CON "TROPHY MAN" CHUMINA, OLDIES" Y DE lOUISANA, (LA DISTRICT)
MUY AMARGADO CONTRA NUESTRA IGLESIA, QUE EL Y LA CHUMINA, NO SE CONGREGAN POR MAS DE 30 ANOS.!
EN NINGUNA IGLESIA APOSTOLICA!
ESTE RIOS, SE "COJUE" DE LAS "FALDAS" DE EL SACO DE SU PADRE, ETIMIO QUE FUE PASTOR, MUY MUY PROBLEMATICO AQUI EN NUEVO MEXICO.
PERO INFUNDIO MUCHO ODIO Y AMARGARGURA CON SUS HIJOS.
AHORA DICE RIOS QUE NOS VA A LLEVAR A LA CORTE, Y QUE LO QUE EL DICE, LO CUMPLE..
PUES QUE LO CUMPLA!!!
NOSOTROS TAMBIEN TENEMOS MUCHISMO, MAL CONTRA EL MAL CARACTER DE RIOS...
SUS OIDIO, MAL CONPORTAMIENTO PARA CON LA ASAMBLEA APOSTOLICA, Y ODIO PARA TODOS LOS PASTORES AQUI EN CRUCES Y NUEVO MEXICO.
EL "ROBO" QUE ESTA HACIENDO RIOS, CON "NUESTROS CANTOS APOSTOLICOS" DE NO TENENER RESPECTO A LOS HIMNOLOGOS, NI A MAS DE 200 FAMILIARES DE LOS AUTORES DE HIMNOS.SIN RESPECTOK, NI ETICA NI CULTURA, NI CARACTER CRISTIANO DE PARTE DE ESTE INDIVIDO RIOS, QUE NOS ESTA ROBANDO NUESTROS DERECHOS, COMO APOSTOLICOS.!!!!
ESTO INDICA QUE ESTE INDIVIDO RIOS, ES UN "ROBON" SIN RESPECTO, NI ETICA, NI CONCIENCIA.
SE ESTA HACIENDO RICO. VENDIENDO LOS C. D.'S FOR $54.00 DOLLARES, Y SOLAMENTE A DOS FAMILIAS LES DA REGALDIAS.
POR FAVOR, HERMANOS Y AMIGOS NO COMPRE NI ORDENE MAS C. D.S PORQUE RIOS SE CONGREGA CON LAS ASAMBLEAS DE DIOS. Y NUNCA CON LA IGLESIA APOSTOLICA, NI DE MEXICO NI DE USA.
NINGUN PASTOR APOSTOLICO LO PUEDE SOPORTAR, ES MUY AMARGADO, Y ESTA MUY LISTO PARA "DEFRAUDAR" A TODOS...
Y SE HA BURLADO DE LA MESA DIRECTIVA, DICIENDO QUE ES AMIGO DE ELLOS..PERO SOLO PARA "EXPLOTARNOS" Y VENDERNOS A NOSOTROS MISMOS "NUESTROS PRIPIOS HIMNOS.."
QUE NOS LLEVE A LA CORTE!!!!!!!!!.
PARA QUE VEAMOS QUIEN ES RIOS, TROPHYMAN, CHUMINA, OLDIES Y (LA DISTRICT, LOUISANA)
QUE SON ESTOS REBELDES EN REALIDAD...
UN HIPOCRITA, CON LA ESPOSA EN PANTALONES,
Y DICE QUE NI AUN QUIERE A LA ASAMBLEA NI A NOSOTROS LOS PASTORES.
TAMBIEN NOSOTROS TENEMOS MUY BUENOS ABOGADOS. PRIMERAMENTE CRISTO ES NUESTRO SUPREMO ABOGADO, COMO DICE EL APOSTOL PAUBLO!
ORE HERMANOS PARA QUE DIOS NOS "LIBERTE DE SER MAS Y NUNCA MAS DEFRUDADOS!!! POR INDIVIDOS INGRATOS, Y QUE SE HACEN RICOS, HACIENDONOS FAUDE!
GRAICAS, QUIDE A SU IGLESIA, LA ASAMBLEA APOSTOLICA!
LA dISTRICT. lOUISANA:
QUE TORPES ERES.....QUE NO SABES QUE ATI TAMBIEN TE VAN HA A INVESTIGAR.???.
TE DUELE RIOS????
PORQUE SE TE "LLEGO TU DIA DE YA"
"NO MAS"DEFRAUDARNOS !!!
NO MAS NO MAS CON TUS VENTAS CLANDESTINAS DE "ROBO" A LA ASAMBLEA, LA IGLESIA DE MEXICO, Y A TODOS NOSOTROS PASTORES Y MIEMBROS.
De nuestros himnos, de la Asamblea y de la Iglesia de Mexico, y de las familias Apostolicas cuyos padres, y madres fueron los "autores autiticos". de estos NUESTROS HIMNOS..
Y NO TUYOS, "LADRON, ROBON" ...
TU ESTABLECISTE UN NEGOCIO PROPIO TUYO...(THIS IS THE OTHER SMOKING GUN)!!!
"NO LUCRATIVA"
NEGOCIO,
PARA NO PAGAR IMPUESTOS...
Y USANDO EL "LOGO DE VISA Y MASTERCARD PARA MAS DEFRUDARNOS.
CON TUS VENTAS DE NUESTROS..."HIMNOS APOSTOLICOS" NO TUYOS SINO "ROBADOS, SIN RESPECTO A NADIE DE LOS AUTORES, NI A SUS FAMILIARES...
SI INVESTIGAS A PASTAYO...
"TAMBIEN A TI TE VAN A A 'investigar" y MANDARTETE, A TI Y A LA "CHUMINA, QUE ESTA EN PANTALONES,
Y A TI RIOS, TROPHYMAN OLDIES LA DISTIRCT, LOUISANA...TE MANDARAN A "A LA RESERVACION DE LOS HOPI'S" NATION...DONDE PERTENECES...
INVESTIGANOS.. YA ESTAMOS
CANSADOS, Y ABURIDOS DE FRAUDES!!!!
YA BASTA!!!!!ROBON......LADRON!!!
MENTIROSO...
HACIENDOTE "RICO CON "NUESTROS HIMNOS, CUANDO NI AUN TE CONGREGAS A NINGUNA IGLESIA APOSTOLICA NI DE U.S.A. NI DE MEXICO...
"LADRON, SIN ETICA, NI RESPECTO, NI CARACTER CUAL NINGUNO!!!!
DANDO REGALDIAS SOLO A DOS FAMILIAS, Y A LAS DEMAS 200...TU RIOS LADRON.., NO LES DAS NADA...
TODO ES PARA HACERTE RICO..RIOS..
LLEVAME A SANTA FE A LA CORTE...ALLI TE ESPERAMOS..
OH DONDE QUIERAS...
TAMBIEN LA MESA DIRECTIVA TENDRA QUE IR COMO TESTIGOS.,
PORQUE ESTOS HIMNOS SON DE LA ASAMBLEA, Y DE LOS AUTORES DE HIMNOS ANTIGUOS..
NO TUYOS...RIOS!!!!
TAMBIEN MIRA DE DONDE VINISTE!!!
DE LA CASA DE RIOS....AQUI EN CRUCES...HA.
TE ESPERAMOS!!!!
o a la mejor..nosotros TE de demandamos por "fraude" con nuestros himnos. Hay muchos hermanos y hermanas familias de los autores Apostolicos escribiendo tambien...que no lo leeas????AQUI EN BLOGS...OH NOMAS CONCENTRAS EN MI Y EN PASTAYO???
Tambien ellos estaran alli!!!
La pesadia que tienes de no dormir es verdad??....Estas "robando"..Ladron!!!!
SIGANAN escribiendo hermanos y hermanas....Dilale a Rios que estos "Himnos apostolicos no son de Rios, para el flogo hacerce "Rico"!!!
Perteneces a la Asamblea, la Iglesia de Mexico y de todos los familiares de estos hermanos Himnologos.!
Gracias.. todos unidos venceremos!!!!
Se le esta callendo "SU LINDO CAFETAL A RIOS...DE CONTINUARSE HACIENDO RICO....CON NUESTROS HIMNOS...
Y EL NI A NUESTRA IGLESIA ASISTI.
ESTA COMO UN DRAGON,,,DANDO "ALASOS"...
PORQUE SE LE ESTA UNDIENDO EL BARCO DE "FRAUDE!"
PERO OYA ERA TIEMPO DE MAS DE 4 ANOS. ROBANDO NUESTROS HIMNOS, HACIENDOSE "RICO" Y PAGANDO SUS FIANANCIAS DE CASA Y VIAJES.!!!
RIOS SE CONGREGA..EN OTRA IGLESIA...
ES DE LAS ASAMBLEAS DE DIOS., PARA TAMBIEN "VENDER NUESTROS HIMNOS..
NO LO DUDO QUE VALLA CON LOS BAUTISTA, PRESBYTERIANOS, EPISCOPALES, TESTIGOS DE JEHOVA, Y AUN CATOLICOS....PARA VENDER NUESTROS "HIMNOS APOSTOLICOS...
LA COSA DE RIOS, ES "HACER MAS Y MAS Y MAS DINERO, HEH? RIOS?
YA BASTA RIOS!!!!!
NO MAS FRAUDE!!!!!
GRACIAS HERMNAOS POR SUS ORACIONES..
RECUERDE A SUS HERMANOS AUTORES, QUE NI UN CENTAVO RECIVIERON POR ESTOS HIMNOS...PERO SI RECIBIERON EL GALARDON DE DIOS.
PERO ESTOS RAGALIAS PERTENECEN A LAS FAMILIAS DE ESTOS HERMANOS Y HERMANAS YA EXTINTAS, QUE ESTAN CON CRISTO...
Y NO PERTENECEN A RIOS.., NI A TROPHYMAN, NI A (LA DISTIRCTA0 lOUSIANA, NI A OLDIES, NI A CHUMINA.!!!!
Thank you Newsfrom New Mexico.
We are "truly awake" now thanks to you for giving us the information needed to ALL OF US, ON THE SCAMMING FROM INDIVIDUALS OF THE LIKES OF L. Rios on what he has been doing to "Our Apostolic Oldies Songs. We are giving "OJO" very good to these scammers.
Those that make themselves "rich on our "Apostolic Songs."
And give no credit to the song writers, nor monies to their heirs.
We most certainly support you NNEWS from New Mexico.!
Keep up the good work, Protecting "our Church, the Apostolic Assembly and La Iglesia.
God bless you for it.
I read it over and over again and again to really "never forget it."
No more scammers. In Jesus Name.!
Hermanos:Gracias al Pastor de Las Cruces,Nuevo Mexico, que nos da esta informacion de que los estan, defraudando...en vendernos estos "nuestros himnos priopos."
para "las torpes ganancias de esta persona defraudadora Rios.
Oremos que Dios reprenda a estos
Malas personas que se hacen "ricos" con himnos robados.
Gracias. News from New Mexico.
Si ahora si si estamos "despiertos"
Gracias.
Another Pastor gets blown up by the evil empire and LUgo.SOunds like the soldier of the assembly lugo destroyed another pastor. WOrd has it that a pastor from las vegas was renting a place. So lugo worked something out with the local ministers of the church. JOse zuniga walks inside of the place he was renting to find the place empty, Lugo even took the instruments of the place.
so he took 3 families, instruments
and made a name for him self. MR Religioso Thug Lugo(RTL) does it again.
I heard of thief in the night
but this guy really takes the cake.
ratero sin corazon So i guess more fear will come out of this for the pastors of the association. Just remember if you ever know of a pastor who does not like you and that pastor is a politician, give it sometime and that pastor will move up the ranks to crush you like a little animal.
Thanks Ed for the info on Lugo:
This same things the father of L. Rios would do here in Cruces.
"Kick out" Pastors and he had the "pull of a couple of corrupt of other Bishops of that time.
That is why L. Rios is so despised so much here in New Mexico, because he learned "big time" how to scam the Apostolic masses of brothers and sisters.
Hear L. Rios went to the Assemblies of God and other indenpendent organizations to also "scam them on our songs.
Getting "rich" on our Apostolic Songs that are not His.
THANKS FOR THE MEMORIES:
WE MUST "PROTECT" OUR APOSTOLIC SONGS AND OUR CHURCH.'
THANKS FOR NOT ORDERING SONGS ANY MORE FROM THESE SCAMMERS.
Lugo, wasn"t he the one that ousted Bishop Baldemar on the UTube by Scotty?
L. Rios is "out of the Assembly" but he sure "scammed us for over 4 years" with "our songs."
The Lord rebuke him.!
NO MORE SCAMMERS!!!!!
yea thats him
To Louisana (L.A. District)
The revolt and the mess that was left at Cruces lst., was such a "disgrace" that you ,L.A. District, Loouisana must be Rios. If you say he is your "great friend", what a friend you must have. One who
SCAMS THE APOSTOLIC SONG WRITERS, AND THEIR FAMILIES.
YOU MOST definately are L. Rios.
It was a "UNBELIEVABLE" what the "hermanas" had to put up with the Rios., and he was the Pastor?
It is known that Bishop Lupe Zuniga, Bishop C. Leyba and Bishop M. Soto, and Bishop Richard Ochoa and Bishop Gilberto Arballo, Pastor Daniel Huerta, Pastor Martin Vasquez, Pastor Arturo Madrid, Pastor Valentin Urias, and so many others....had to suffer and endure so much trash from this "controlling, munipulative, and gossipping family, the Rios.
You want Bishop Lugo to come and
"oust" Pastor Garcia.
Well, he "could oust You" but you
ARE ALREADY OUT...SCAMMER. TO THE ASSEMBLIES OF GOD...REMEMBER EX.MEMBER?
So now we continue to have to endure "Las fraudes" of the scamming of the fradulent sales for "self gain" of "OUR APOSTOLIC SONGS"
TO A GONE "TRINITARIAN" OF L. RIOS!
AND CHUMINA!!
If the lst. Church of Cruces was left in shambles and so many left it was not because of Pastor Garcia, it was because of the "generation curses" left from the "Rios reign"..
Fasting and praying, Pastor Matthew Garcia will be the only way to get rid of those "inbeded" hidious attitudes and if they leave, let them leave, just as L. Rios and la Chumina left, to the Assemblies of God.
Only FASTING AND PRAYING WILL DELIVER ALL OF YOU AT 1ST., CRUCESS FROM THESE SCAMS....
GOD BLESS YOU PASTOR GARCIA.
(IF PASTOR GARCIA IS HAVING PROBLEMS WITH THE GENERAL BOARD., IS BECAUSE L. RIOS HAS THE GENERAL BOARD FOOLED...COMPLETELY AND TOTALLY FOOLED...
AND L. RIOS TELLS THE G.B. ALL LIES ON PASTOR GARCIAand everyone else in N. M.
Imagine "who tries to contorl the state of New Mexico" of the Apostolic Assembly! A SCAMMER., MAKING SELF GAIN MONEY ON "OUR APOSTOLIC OWN SONGS..."
HOW DARE YOU RIOS! HOW DARE YOU TRY TO SCAM US....
BUT WHY DOES THE G.B. LISTEN TO L. RIOS., SINCE RIOS DOES NOT CONGREGATE IN ANY APOSTOLIC ASSEMBLY CHURCH...
DON"T BE FOOLED......
TO THE G. B. WE REMIND THEM THAT YOU MUST READ THE PREVIOUS BLOGS ON "TROPHY MAN, CHUMINA, L.A. DISTICT, (LOUISANA) AND ODIES, THEY are ONE AND THE SAME...L. RIOS!
THESE BLOGS OF THE ABOVE MENTIONED BLOGGERS WRITE DEPLORABLE THINGS ON BISHOP SANCHEZ, VALVERDE, PACHECO, AND ARTURO ESPINOZA.!
BEWARE OF RIOS., GENERAL BOARD.!
HE IS TRINITARIAN... OR DON'T YOU CARE?
"OJO" to Rios scamming of "our Apostolic songs!"
Making himself rich.
Lord have mercy on us!
THANK YOU BRETHREN FOR NOT ORDERING ANYMORE OF "OUR SONGS"from this man scammer.
WE MUST DEFEND "OUR CHURCH" FROM SELF GAIN...SCAMMERS.
IN JESUS NAME....
Thank you....Jesus!
Hermanos y Hermanas.
Escribe el "blogger" L.A. District, (Louisana) que a la misma vez, es "trophy man., Oldies, chumina y se llama en realidad L. Rios.
Este es el individo que esta defraudandonos con 'NUESTROS HIMNOS APOSTOLICOS, VENDIENDOLOS POR EL INTERNET., y se esta haciendo RICO, por mas de 4 anos.
L. A. District,Louisana, que es Rios, dice que el Obispo Lugo de California debe de venir a sacar al Pastor Matthew Garcia de las Cruces, porque el es el que esta escribiendo como News from Mexico.,
Pues es que Rios esta mal informando a todos los Pastores de Nuevo Mexico, con la Mesa Directiva, y les dice puras mentiras, porque tiene una "vendatta" contra todos los Pastores, Obispos, y ministerios de Nuevo Mexico.
Por anos esa familias Rios ha dado, mas y mas problemas a los siguentes Obispos, M. Soto, Gilberto Arballo, Lupe Zuniza, C. Leyba, Richard Ochoa de Colorado, R.Gaxiola y a Pastores, Sam y Daniel Huerta, Rosendo Chavez, Arturo Madrid, Martin Vasquez, y Matthew Garcia, y muchos mas...
La Iglesia de Cruces, siempre ha tenido tantos problemas por esta familia que dejo un herencia muy mala..
Oremos y ayunemos por el Pastor Matthew Garcia.
La Mesa Directiva no debe de poner caso a L.Rios, porque ese individo es ya trinitario. esta con Las Asambleas de Dios, y otras Iglesias para vender nuestros Himnos Apostolicos, y no dar Regalias a las familias, Apostolicas de los hermanos autores, compositores Apostolicas.
Todo el dinero que recibi Rios es para solo dos familias, y todo lo damas para su GANANCIAS PROPIAS., PARA HACERCE RICO...1
LA MESA DIRECTIVA DEBE DE LEER LOS BLOGS, "TROPHY MAN, LA. DISTIRCT, CHUMINA, ODIES QUE HABLAN HORIBLE MENTE CONTRA OBISPO SANCHEZ, VALVERDE, PACHECO, ESPINOZA, Y OTROS.
NO LE SIGUE DANDO "HILO" A RIOS...
es un "VIVIDOR" DE NUESTROS CANTOS APOSTOLICOS.
NO SON DE EL....
PARA SU PROPIOS GANANCIAS...
SI dice L. A. District, Louisana, que Rios es de una familia muy fina, y que es su amigo., pues esta solo,porque nadie mas le tiene nada de confianza., y a la vez es Rios mismo el que escribi
PREGUNTELE A CUAL QUIER DE los Pastores de Nuevo MEXICO, Y TIENEN MIEDO HABLAR...
Pero por eso no se congrega Rios en ninguna iglesia Apostolica de la Asamblea, por que tienen SIEMPRE DISCONFIANZA, LOS PASTORES., DE ESE INVIDIDO AMARGADO y que se esta haciendo Rico con 'NUESTROS HIMNOS.
SIN DARLE NADA de regaldias., A LAS FAMILIAS DE LOS HERMANOS COMPOSITORES.....
Ya es tiempo que "DESPERTAMOS" Y AYUNAR Y ORAR QUE DIOS LOS LIBRE DE ESOS FRAUDES...DE NUESTROS PROPIOS HIMNOS....
DIOS LES BENDIGA HERMANOS...
OREN POR TODOS LOS PASTORES DE NUEVO MEXICO!!!!
ES INCREIBLE LO QUE HEMOS SUFRIDO CON ESTA FAMILIA RIOS...POR LARGOS ANOS.....
NO LES OREDENE YA C.D.'S QUE PERTENECEN A NOSOTROS LA ASAMBLEA...
GRACIAS.
Hermanos y Hermanas.
Escribe el "blogger" L.A. District, (Louisana) que a la misma vez, es "trophy man., Oldies, chumina y se llama en realidad L. Rios.
Este es el individo que esta defraudandonos con 'NUESTROS HIMNOS APOSTOLICOS, VENDIENDOLOS POR EL INTERNET., y se esta haciendo RICO, por mas de 4 anos.
L. A. District,Louisana, que es Rios, dice que el Obispo Lugo de California debe de venir a sacar al Pastor Matthew Garcia de las Cruces, porque el es el que esta escribiendo como News from Mexico.,
Pues es que Rios esta mal informando a todos los Pastores de Nuevo Mexico, con la Mesa Directiva, y les dice puras mentiras, porque tiene una "vendatta" contra todos los Pastores, Obispos, y ministerios de Nuevo Mexico.
Por anos esa familias Rios ha dado, mas y mas problemas a los siguentes Obispos, M. Soto, Gilberto Arballo, Lupe Zuniza, C. Leyba, Richard Ochoa de Colorado, R.Gaxiola y a Pastores, Sam y Daniel Huerta, Rosendo Chavez, Arturo Madrid, Martin Vasquez, y Matthew Garcia, y muchos mas...
La Iglesia de Cruces, siempre ha tenido tantos problemas por esta familia que dejo un herencia muy mala..
Oremos y ayunemos por el Pastor Matthew Garcia.
La Mesa Directiva no debe de poner caso a L.Rios, porque ese individo es ya trinitario. esta con Las Asambleas de Dios, y otras Iglesias para vender nuestros Himnos Apostolicos, y no dar Regalias a las familias, Apostolicas de los hermanos autores, compositores Apostolicas.
Todo el dinero que recibi Rios es para solo dos familias, y todo lo damas para su GANANCIAS PROPIAS., PARA HACERCE RICO...1
LA MESA DIRECTIVA DEBE DE LEER LOS BLOGS, "TROPHY MAN, LA. DISTIRCT, CHUMINA, ODIES QUE HABLAN HORIBLE MENTE CONTRA OBISPO SANCHEZ, VALVERDE, PACHECO, ESPINOZA, Y OTROS.
NO LE SIGUE DANDO "HILO" A RIOS...
es un "VIVIDOR" DE NUESTROS CANTOS APOSTOLICOS.
NO SON DE EL....
PARA SU PROPIOS GANANCIAS...
SI dice L. A. District, Louisana, que Rios es de una familia muy fina, y que es su amigo., pues esta solo,porque nadie mas le tiene nada de confianza., y a la vez es Rios mismo el que escribi
PREGUNTELE A CUAL QUIER DE los Pastores de Nuevo MEXICO, Y TIENEN MIEDO HABLAR...
Pero por eso no se congrega Rios en ninguna iglesia Apostolica de la Asamblea, por que tienen SIEMPRE DISCONFIANZA, LOS PASTORES., DE ESE INVIDIDO AMARGADO y que se esta haciendo Rico con 'NUESTROS HIMNOS.
SIN DARLE NADA de regaldias., A LAS FAMILIAS DE LOS HERMANOS COMPOSITORES.....
Ya es tiempo que "DESPERTAMOS" Y AYUNAR Y ORAR QUE DIOS LOS LIBRE DE ESOS FRAUDES...DE NUESTROS PROPIOS HIMNOS....
DIOS LES BENDIGA HERMANOS...
OREN POR TODOS LOS PASTORES DE NUEVO MEXICO!!!!
ES INCREIBLE LO QUE HEMOS SUFRIDO CON ESTA FAMILIA RIOS...POR LARGOS ANOS.....
NO LES OREDENE YA C.D.'S QUE PERTENECEN A NOSOTROS LA ASAMBLEA...
GRACIAS.
Hermanos y Hermanas.
Escribe el "blogger" L.A. District, (Louisana) que a la misma vez, es "trophy man., Oldies, chumina y se llama en realidad L. Rios.
Este es el individo que esta defraudandonos con 'NUESTROS HIMNOS APOSTOLICOS, VENDIENDOLOS POR EL INTERNET., y se esta haciendo RICO, por mas de 4 anos.
L. A. District,Louisana, que es Rios, dice que el Obispo Lugo de California debe de venir a sacar al Pastor Matthew Garcia de las Cruces, porque el es el que esta escribiendo como News from Mexico.,
Pues es que Rios esta mal informando a todos los Pastores de Nuevo Mexico, con la Mesa Directiva, y les dice puras mentiras, porque tiene una "vendatta" contra todos los Pastores, Obispos, y ministerios de Nuevo Mexico.
Por anos esa familias Rios ha dado, mas y mas problemas a los siguentes Obispos, M. Soto, Gilberto Arballo, Lupe Zuniza, C. Leyba, Richard Ochoa de Colorado, R.Gaxiola y a Pastores, Sam y Daniel Huerta, Rosendo Chavez, Arturo Madrid, Martin Vasquez, y Matthew Garcia, y muchos mas...
La Iglesia de Cruces, siempre ha tenido tantos problemas por esta familia que dejo un herencia muy mala..
Oremos y ayunemos por el Pastor Matthew Garcia.
La Mesa Directiva no debe de poner caso a L.Rios, porque ese individo es ya trinitario. esta con Las Asambleas de Dios, y otras Iglesias para vender nuestros Himnos Apostolicos, y no dar Regalias a las familias, Apostolicas de los hermanos autores, compositores Apostolicas.
Todo el dinero que recibi Rios es para solo dos familias, y todo lo damas para su GANANCIAS PROPIAS., PARA HACERCE RICO...1
LA MESA DIRECTIVA DEBE DE LEER LOS BLOGS, "TROPHY MAN, LA. DISTIRCT, CHUMINA, ODIES QUE HABLAN HORIBLE MENTE CONTRA OBISPO SANCHEZ, VALVERDE, PACHECO, ESPINOZA, Y OTROS.
NO LE SIGUE DANDO "HILO" A RIOS...
es un "VIVIDOR" DE NUESTROS CANTOS APOSTOLICOS.
NO SON DE EL....
PARA SU PROPIOS GANANCIAS...
SI dice L. A. District, Louisana, que Rios es de una familia muy fina, y que es su amigo., pues esta solo,porque nadie mas le tiene nada de confianza., y a la vez es Rios mismo el que escribi
PREGUNTELE A CUAL QUIER DE los Pastores de Nuevo MEXICO, Y TIENEN MIEDO HABLAR...
Pero por eso no se congrega Rios en ninguna iglesia Apostolica de la Asamblea, por que tienen SIEMPRE DISCONFIANZA, LOS PASTORES., DE ESE INVIDIDO AMARGADO y que se esta haciendo Rico con 'NUESTROS HIMNOS.
SIN DARLE NADA de regaldias., A LAS FAMILIAS DE LOS HERMANOS COMPOSITORES.....
Ya es tiempo que "DESPERTAMOS" Y AYUNAR Y ORAR QUE DIOS LOS LIBRE DE ESOS FRAUDES...DE NUESTROS PROPIOS HIMNOS....
DIOS LES BENDIGA HERMANOS...
OREN POR TODOS LOS PASTORES DE NUEVO MEXICO!!!!
ES INCREIBLE LO QUE HEMOS SUFRIDO CON ESTA FAMILIA RIOS...POR LARGOS ANOS.....
NO LES OREDENE YA C.D.'S QUE PERTENECEN A NOSOTROS LA ASAMBLEA...
GRACIAS.
Hermanos y Hermanas.
Escribe el "blogger" L.A. District, (Louisana) que a la misma vez, es "trophy man., Oldies, chumina y se llama en realidad L. Rios.
Este es el individo que esta defraudandonos con 'NUESTROS HIMNOS APOSTOLICOS, VENDIENDOLOS POR EL INTERNET., y se esta haciendo RICO, por mas de 4 anos.
L. A. District,Louisana, que es Rios, dice que el Obispo Lugo de California debe de venir a sacar al Pastor Matthew Garcia de las Cruces, porque el es el que esta escribiendo como News from Mexico.,
Pues es que Rios esta mal informando a todos los Pastores de Nuevo Mexico, con la Mesa Directiva, y les dice puras mentiras, porque tiene una "vendatta" contra todos los Pastores, Obispos, y ministerios de Nuevo Mexico.
Por anos esa familias Rios ha dado, mas y mas problemas a los siguentes Obispos, M. Soto, Gilberto Arballo, Lupe Zuniza, C. Leyba, Richard Ochoa de Colorado, R.Gaxiola y a Pastores, Sam y Daniel Huerta, Rosendo Chavez, Arturo Madrid, Martin Vasquez, y Matthew Garcia, y muchos mas...
La Iglesia de Cruces, siempre ha tenido tantos problemas por esta familia que dejo un herencia muy mala..
Oremos y ayunemos por el Pastor Matthew Garcia.
La Mesa Directiva no debe de poner caso a L.Rios, porque ese individo es ya trinitario. esta con Las Asambleas de Dios, y otras Iglesias para vender nuestros Himnos Apostolicos, y no dar Regalias a las familias, Apostolicas de los hermanos autores, compositores Apostolicas.
Todo el dinero que recibi Rios es para solo dos familias, y todo lo damas para su GANANCIAS PROPIAS., PARA HACERCE RICO...1
LA MESA DIRECTIVA DEBE DE LEER LOS BLOGS, "TROPHY MAN, LA. DISTIRCT, CHUMINA, ODIES QUE HABLAN HORIBLE MENTE CONTRA OBISPO SANCHEZ, VALVERDE, PACHECO, ESPINOZA, Y OTROS.
NO LE SIGUE DANDO "HILO" A RIOS...
es un "VIVIDOR" DE NUESTROS CANTOS APOSTOLICOS.
NO SON DE EL....
PARA SU PROPIOS GANANCIAS...
SI dice L. A. District, Louisana, que Rios es de una familia muy fina, y que es su amigo., pues esta solo,porque nadie mas le tiene nada de confianza., y a la vez es Rios mismo el que escribi
PREGUNTELE A CUAL QUIER DE los Pastores de Nuevo MEXICO, Y TIENEN MIEDO HABLAR...
Pero por eso no se congrega Rios en ninguna iglesia Apostolica de la Asamblea, por que tienen SIEMPRE DISCONFIANZA, LOS PASTORES., DE ESE INVIDIDO AMARGADO y que se esta haciendo Rico con 'NUESTROS HIMNOS.
SIN DARLE NADA de regaldias., A LAS FAMILIAS DE LOS HERMANOS COMPOSITORES.....
Ya es tiempo que "DESPERTAMOS" Y AYUNAR Y ORAR QUE DIOS LOS LIBRE DE ESOS FRAUDES...DE NUESTROS PROPIOS HIMNOS....
DIOS LES BENDIGA HERMANOS...
OREN POR TODOS LOS PASTORES DE NUEVO MEXICO!!!!
ES INCREIBLE LO QUE HEMOS SUFRIDO CON ESTA FAMILIA RIOS...POR LARGOS ANOS.....
NO LES OREDENE YA C.D.'S QUE PERTENECEN A NOSOTROS LA ASAMBLEA...
GRACIAS.
Thank You NewsfroomNewMexico:
Despierta:
We need to know this. On Rios scams...
Oh but you forgot "one other" Bishop from New Mexico, and that was Victor Prado...
He was Larry Rios, big time golf partner...
So that is why Larry Rios gets away with "wanting to oust, Pastor Matthew Garcia and others from New Mexico?
Because Victor Prado is Larry Rios's GOLF PARTNER, when Prado lived here in New Mexico and was Bishop.
Prado did not care that Rios was from the Assemblies of God and others. They are "both" addicted to golf!
That and only that reason is why Rios gets away with everything of scamming the Apostolic Songs, and making big megga monies.
And as you say NEWs from NM., none of the song writer's families get any monies., only two families..
they are listed in the Web page., of the Rios's non profit., all for SELF.... profit gain...
WE NEED TO WAKE UP., AS YOU CLEARLY STATE.
That's the clincher...The GOLF GAME, HUH PRADO AND RIOS?
WOW! SCAMMERS...
May the Lord rebuke them...
Es necesario que NewsfromNewMexico:
Despierta...nos 'DESPIERTE'
SOBRE QUE NUESTROS HIMNOS APOSTOLICOS, son vendidos para Propia ganacia de ese individo Rios.
Pues al darnos la lista NewsfromNewMexico: Despierta de todos los Obispos y Pastores que han llevado la carga de sufrir con esa familia Rios.,,por largos anos.
Le quiero recordar al NewsfromMexico:Despierta, que se le olvido mencionar a otro Obispo, y ese es Victor Prado, que ahora vive en California.
Pero estando en Nuevo Mexico era COMPANIERO INSEPARABLE DE RIOS, PRADO.,
PORQUE ESTAN "ADDICTOS A JUEGO DEL GOLF".
Ahora si comprendo porque Rios se siente "mimado por la Mesa Directiva: que tiene poder Rios de dar :chismes siempre "chismoso"
y mal informar a todos los Pastores de aqui de Nuevo Mexico.
A Prado no le importa que Rios sea de LAS ASAMBLEAS DE DIOS., Y DE OTROS IGLESIAS TRINAS.
Prado lo que quiere es un companero fiel que le pague el juego de Golf., que cuesta mucho dinero jugar golf., pero Rios siempre le paga el juego a todos., por eso tiene 'COMPRADA A LA MESA DIRECTIVA.,
Porque Rios siempre tienen de lucirse que tiene mucho dinero, pues al fin VENDE "NUESTROS HIMNOS APOSTOLICOS, Y NO LES DA NADA A LAS FAMILIAS DE LOS AUTORES DE NUESTROS CANTOS..
SOLO A DOS FAMILIAS.
OREMOS COMO DICE, NEWSFROMNM., Y AYUNAR. para que Dios quide a sus Ministros aqui en Nuevo Mexico.!
No compre ni ordene mas Himnos apostolicos, son de nosotros La Asamblea, y la Iglesia de Mexico, y no de Rios.
Sabes eso Prado..."Ya se te descubrio el "jalon" que tiene Rios con tus amigos la Mesa Directiva.!
TU PRADO....ERES EL "JALON"..
y el juego de golf...
Dios nos cuide. Y reprenda todo espiritu malvado. Amen.
This has gotten to the point where it is just rant about the Rios and the state of New Mexico.
Are we still losing pastors and ministers, aren't most district conventions happening or about to happen? What's the news there, what's being discussed at convention or anything being mentioned by district bishops?
Let's get out of New Mexico and back to the issues.
John:
Well its about "the same issues" why we are "losing Pastors"
Precisely ....why we are losing Pastors, is because "NO HAY CONTROL", what so ever to monitor the "scamming that is going on with 'SELF GAINING SALES FROM OUR APOSTOLIC SONGS.
IN THE MEGA BUCKS, AND NO ONE CARES, THAT THE FAMILIES OF THE "OLDER SONGS ARE NOT BEING RESPECTED AND GIVEN TO THE "RIGHTFUL PERSONS" THE MONIES DUE TO THEM FROM THOSE "CLANDESTIEN SALES".
THAT GO DIRECTLY TO THIS INDIVIDUAL RIOS.
in scamming and fraud, by this individual Rios. who pretends to be "our friend" of the AA but in reality is "exploiting the familes of the APOSTOLIC SONG WRITERS.
So what we need here in New Mexico is for the Lord to deliver us all from this evil scamming individual Rios. And as long as his deplorable Web page is there for scamming, with his "tooting, and tooting, and tune less wanna be muisicial.
We will keep informing our Apostolic Pastors and church members not to "purchase these C. D.'s for the personal gain of this individual Rios.
Please Brothers and Sisters pray for us here in N. M. Because eventhough this individual Rios does not attend any of our Apostolic Churches, he still makes "alot of trouble" AGAINST us Pastors and wants us all 'OUSTED" OUT OF THE AA.
THE MESA DIRECTIVA IS COMPLETELY FOOLED BY THIS INdDIVIDUAL RIOS.
PLEASE PLEASE DO NOT ANSWER TO HIS PLEADS FOR "MORE AND MORE AND MORE DONATIONS!!!ITS ALL A SCAM...
HE HAS NO "SHAME" SETTING UP A NON PROFIT" AND NOT HAVING TO PAY TAXES, AND THEN "SCAMS" OUR APOSTOLIC SONGS!
THE NERVE..RIOS. YOU HAVE NO SHAME..
IF YOU ARE IN FINANCIAL PROBLEMS, WELL GET ANOTHER JOB, AND LEAVE OUR SONGS ALONE...THEY ARE NOT YOURS....
WE KNOW OUR SONGS., WE HAVE THEM IN THE HIMARIOS...SO SING THEM..
AND HAVE SOMEONE IN OUR CHURCH PLAY THEM FOR US, AS WE DO HERE IN CRUCES.
WE DO NOT NEED THE "TOOTING, TOOTING, AND OUT OF TONE TOOTING OF THIS INDIVIDUAL RIOS.
GOD BLESS YOU ALL, BRETHREN AND PLEASE CONTINUE TO PRAY FOR US HERE IN NEW MEXICO.
WE GET THE "BIGGER FORCE".(IMPACT)
BECAUSE THIS INDIVIDUAL RIOS(AMARGADO)
HAS ALOT OF "PULL" WITH PRADO, AND UNFORTUNATELY WITH ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS...
IF THE MESA DIRECTIVA ARE TRULY MEN OF GOD, WHY CAN'T THEY SEE RIGHT THROUGH THIS INDIVIDUAL RIOS?
TO give you some information on the District conventions, Yes they are being held, for "one day" only. This year is "district convention year.
Next year 2010 is election's year.
We are praying for God's grace to help us.
What we need is to continue for "SCAMMERS AS THE RIOS TO BE TRULY EXPLOSED ON THE , MUNIPULATING AND CONTROLING HE TRIES TO ENFORCE WITH PASTORS HERE IN NEW MEXICO..
BELIEVE ME BROTHERS AND SISTERS, WE HAVE "SUFFERED" WITH THIS INDIVIDUAL RIOS, FOR OVER 1/2 A CENTURY!!!!
[PLEASE HELP US WIN THE BATTLE IN JESUS NAME.
KEEP UP IN THE GOOD WORK ON NO MORE ORDERS OF THOSE C. D.'S , THAT HAVE BEEN GOING ON FOR OVER 4 LONG YEARS!
THANK YOU...BROTHERS AND SISTERS.
Hermanos y Hermanas:
Dice "John" en su blog que ya no hablemos mas de aqui de Nuevo Mexico sobre lo malo que esta haciendo ese individo Rios en seguir con su "web page." la pagina en el internet, para defraudar a los hermanos que le ordenan NUESTROS HIMNOS APOSTOLICOS., QUE NO SON DE ESE INDIVIDO RIOS.,
SON DE NUESTRA IGLESIA LA ASAMBLEA APOSTOLICA Y DE LA IGLESIA DE MEXICO, "Y LAS REGALDIAS",
NO SE LE ESTAN DANDO CON RESPECTO A LAS FAMILIAS DE LOS COMPOSITORES DE ESTOS HIMNOS..
SOLO ESTE INDIVIDO RIOS, SE ESTA HACIENDO RICO CON NUESTROS HIMNOS., Y NO TIENE RESPETO A LOS COMPOSITORES DE ESTOS HIMNOS..
OREN HERMANOS Y HERMANAS POR NOSOTROS LOS PASTORES Y MIEMBROS DE LA ASAMBLEA AQUI EN NUEVO MEXICO.
HEMOS SUFRIDO MAS DE 50 ANOS CON ESTOS RIOS. SOLO DIOS SABE LO QUE HEMOS PASADO.
porque siempre han engando a todos en la Mesa Directiva, con sus "chismes, y ofensas a todos nosotros los Pastores.
Este individo tiene bien enganados a todos los de la Mesa Directiva.
Especialmente a Victor Prado, quien fue Obispo aqui en N. M.
Dios los va a contestar., ayudenos a orar que Dios reprenda a todas malas obras de este individo Rios.
Dice "John," que debemos de hablar sobre tanto Pastores que se estan saliendo de la Asamblea. Pues esto si se debe de dar a cuenta. Pero es precisamente por razones de "chismes" y mala informcion que se da contra los Pastores que estan cosas estan pasando AQUI EN NUEVO MEXICO, POR MALA INFORMACION DE ESTE INDIVIDO RIOS.
La Mesa directiva debe de ser sabios y ver que ya La Asamblea no quiere mas ser "ultragada" y mas con "ventas" clandestinas, y de propia ganancia solo para ese individio Rios.
Gracias por sus oraciones por todos aqui en Nuevo Mexico.
Dios les pague.
Tambien ore por La Mesa Directiva, que 'DESPIERTE' y mire lo que este individo Rios esta haciendo de torpes ganancias propias.!
LA MESA DIRECTIVA SE VE MUY MAL EN CREIRELE A ESTE INDIVIDO SUS MENTIRAS.
HERMANOS GRACIAS, Y SIGAN ORANDO POR NOSOTROS AQUI EN NUEVO MEXICO.
Y Dios les bendiga.
Hey Bloggers;
New Mexico district is in serious need of prayer. One of the GB members made a horrible mistake in Albuquerque NM. Victor Prado use to pastor Global Evangelism.
According to my General Office source, Victor Prado had a church building that was paid off. Victor Prado decided that he wanted a new building. Needless to say, he sold the paid off building and built a new one. Unfortunately, Victor took the church into some major debt the local church could not afford.
While Vprado was Pastoring, Headquarters was covering a portion of the mortgage, of course whatever portion they would pay the church in Albuquerque was going to be required to pay it back. In essence the local church was going to be in debt to the AA for an eternity.
Victor Prado receives his orders from Daniel Sanchez to take a church here in California with a membership of 200 + members. In other words, they pulled Victor out of the mess he created and rewarded him with a bigger church with almost no debt. The Good ole boy system
Now my source at headquarters tells me, when the church sells the GB is going to pay Victor Prado 30,000 dollars. They say the church burrowed that money from Victor Prado. Excellent Justification to reward their Good ole boy.
If they sell the building, what is their plan to ensure that the local church has a building with no debt? Word is the GB does not care about the people, but only money.
To all bloggers, please keep Pastor Duron and his local church in prayer as the General Board make more ungodly decisions that only benefit them.
A word to the wise - If you are already being dogged by the gb, GET SMART, RIGHT NOW because it probably means that they have already targeted you and they are on the warpath to oust you! If they are doing things such as withholding your ministerial license, demanding to see the church books, or just coming to see you for no reason at all TAKE ACTION NOW! Incorporate your church immediately under a new name and prepare for the worst. Inform yourself as to your specific available options. Maybe call some of the pastors who have already been through all this and have suffered the disgraceful actions of the AA gb.
TO:
The truth from New Mexico!!! DESPIERTA!! AND ALL THE OTHER "TRUTHS"
WHATS WRONG WITH THE ASSEMBLY OF GOD? WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY TRINITARIAN? DO YOU KNOW THAT THE AOG'S ARE TRINITARIAN IN THEOLOGY? Do you know the apostolic history between the AOG and the AA? In either case, lets say they are. So what? If they are not against us, they are for us. Read the bible on this. Dont be a hater...and oh yeah, here in the OC, I hear that the Apostolic AssEMBLY in East L.A. is having their District Convention at an Assemblies of God Church!!! Templo Calvario in Santa Ana, Calif.
TO:
CAMINANDO VOY...and ALL the other PERSECUTED, BEAT DOWN, OVERTAXED, OVERTITHED, HUMILIATED, BROKEN, BACK-STABBED, BLACKMAILED AND BLACK BALLED PASTORS OF THE APOSTOLIC AssEMBLY;
AMEN BRO...JUST GO TO THE AWA AND BE READY TO FULLFILL GODS WILL IN YOU...TODAY...YOU DONT HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL TOMORROW IN THE AWA...JUST GET TO DOING THE LORDS WORK NOW...AMERICA IS QUICKLY BECOMING A NON CHRISTIAN NATION AND WE NEED A REVIVAL HERE, IN THE U.S. IF YOU WANT TO WORK, THERE IS A LARGE HARVEST AND NOT ENOUGH WORKERS....LETS PUT YOU TO WORK....CALL ON ANY AWA PASTOR AND YOU WILL SEE...THEY WILL PARTNER WITH YOU AND GET YOU WORKING ASAP....
John
District Conventions are schedule for this year.
But, if you notice the November Coventions are only for pastor, ministers & families. (people that bounce with them ) If they open the convention for everyone like previous years,people are going to notice that members have left the aa. I don't think the aa wants that.
Quote:
"NOW...AMERICA IS QUICKLY BECOMING A NON CHRISTIAN NATION"
More like the AA is becoming a non Christian organization.
come Pastor's day and they want a money love offering, come Bishop's Day and the churches get a letter from the district to sell the banquet tickets, its not enough to throw him a banquet. Each church has to take a pretty hefty forced LOVE OFFERING.
So than they can write a genetric thank you note and post on the bulletin in church and thats suppose to make you feel better.
The thing is that we're expected to pay for their little vacation. Guess they need to get together and figure out how to scum more and more money from us. While making us feel guity about not providing for the chosen anionted.
To all bloggers!
When we write to the AA Pastors I do my best to write also in Spanish.
Because when you write only in English you are "preaching" to the congregation, and not to the Pastors that many of them do not read or speak English.
Sure I know all you "wanna" say that everyone should learn Enlish, that this is the USA., good, but remember you are blogging to many Pastors etc., in Latin America.
So in all fairness do your best to transpose in English. thanks.
On all of you on your recent day blogs. Its sure is true all you say.
But for that wanna be Theologian,
Study the history of the AA and the AOG.
Wow they "hate" us, but if you are one of them then you must love us., and if you love the word of God, get baptized as Peter the Apostle baptized in the Name of Jesus christ. Acts 2:38, not on the Titles, as Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
This is only a sign of obedience. Coming out of the Azusa street Gospel Mission whose Pastor Seymour baptized in the Name of Jesus.
The three organizations AA AOG and UPC came out of that Gospel Mission.
That's where the anomisity started, from Pastor Ball one of the Founders of AOG. They are called Trinitarins because they "believe that there are three thrones. Father (old man) Son Jesus a young man, and Holy Spirit, in a form of a Dove.
You must be Larry Rios, the scammer here in New Mexico making "Megga Dollars: on our own Apostolic songs., when Rios does not congregate in any Apostolic Assembly church nor the Iglesia de Mexico.
Rios congregates in several Trinitarian churches, to "scam" them also with 'OUR APOSTOLIC SONGS', WHOSE FAMILIES OF THE APOSTOLIC SONG WRITERS, ARE NOT GETTING ANY MONIES. JUST TWO FAMILIES.
SO IF TWO GET ROYALTIES, THEN ALL THE 200 OR MORE SHOULD TOO.
AND NOT FOR RIOS THAT IS GETTING RICH AND PAYING OFF HIS $6,000.00
MONTHLY MORTAGE.
HE SAID IN A PREVIOUS BLOG, THAT WE CANNOT LIVE IN HIS NEIGHBORHOOD, BECAUSE NO "MEXICANS' ARE ALLOWED THERE.
ONLY "HOPI" INDIANS, LIKE THE TRIBE RIOS AND CHUMINA ARE FROM.
That is why Victor Prado was part of the scamming of our songs, toward the Apostolic song writers, except for two families that even their names are in the Web page of Rios, where he has a Visa and Master Card logo, to make it with big stolen mega dollars from all of us Apostolics FROM 'our song writer's songs.
THAT ARE NOT RIOS., BUT BELONG TO THE FAMILIES OF THE APOSTOLIC SONG WRITERS....
Please continue to pray for us here in New Mexico, for all the churches, because the forces of evil are attacking us with the last of the reamants of the "fossils" of the Rios family.
Prado and Rios are "golfing" partners. Prado was here at Cruces just a short time ago to challenge, Trophy man in golf.
Of course, the Megga Bucks Rios, pays for the fees. and the AA for the first class ticket for Prado, to visit Cruces, and his back slider partner, Rios.
We were under the impression, but once "salidos", chismosos and liars, and scammers, we are not to "hang" with "these home boys"., but Prado, being a "home boy" from Tijuana and Compton sure knows how to "hang".
The AA needs Prado in California for the "money grants" he gets from a Community Base orgaization, that allots money in grants to the AA.
And Sanchez who recently spoke to Larry Rios, and told him to "go ahead" on the C.D. scams, as long as the AA gets 25 % of the sales.
It should be for the 100%"royalties" of the song writer's families but of course Sanchez,Valverde etc., want all the money they can get, because finally the Pastors, and Bishops are getting the "idea" of not sending "all the monies"..
Heard that La Flor Azul's is also "wiseing up." to SAnchez!
Please pray for us here in New Mexico, that this "scamming' on our songs "stop".
God bless all of you.
God loves you. Defend His church, for for God's church and also to rebuke this "Apostolic song scammer, Rios". In Jesus Name.
Apreciables Hermanos y Hermanas:
Lo que dicen en los blogs en los ultimos dias, de que Los de la Asamblea de Dios aman a los Apostolicos que bautizamos como dice en Hechos 2:38, y en otros versos de Los Hechos., que dice que los Apostoles bautizaban en el nombre de Jesus. eSTO NO ES VERDAD. lOS DE LA ADD., AOG, NOS ABORECEN!
PORQUE NO BAUTISAMOS EN LOS "TITULOS, SINO COMO LOS APOSTOLIES CUMPLIERON EL MANDAMIENTO DE JESUS., EN HECHOS 2:38.
La historia Evanglica surgio de un avivamiento de la calle Azusa, que de alli La AA,Asamblea de Dios y la UPC o y otras formaron sus "priopas dominaciones."
Yo no voy a entrar en que si nos aman los AOD oh no.
Pero si ellos no bautisan como los apostoles en el Nombre de Jesucristo.!
Ahora gracias a WHAT IS UP" QUE NOS DICE QUE AQUI EN NUEVO MEXICO NECESITAMOS MUCHO LA ORACION.
Gracias hermanos por sus oraciones.
Nosotros dicimos que lo que hiso Victor Prado y la Mesa Directiva, de darle toda la libertad a este individo L. Rios, NOMAS POR SER COMPANIERON DE "GOLF" RIOS Y PRADO.,
que esta todavia vendiendo 'NUESTROS HIMNOS APOSTOLICOS' que no SON DE RIOS, PERTENECEN A LA ASAMBLEA APOSTOLICA Y A LA IGLESIA DE MEXICO,
Y ESPECIALMENTE A LAS FAMILIAS DE LOS HIJOS DE LOS COMPOSITORES APOSTOLICOS, Y NO DE RIOS!!!!
QUE SOLAMENTE A 2 FAMILIAS LE ESTA DANDO REGALDIAS, Y A LAS 200 O MAS FAMILIAS NO.!
Prado hizo mucho mucho mal en Albuquerque, el "hizo y deciso",
Pero se lo llevo Sanchez para California porque Prado "le saca dinero" a una "Communidad de Base,"
mucho dinero para la Mesa Directiva..
QUE SIEMPRE NECECITAN DINERO PORQUE--- esta sufirendo mucho porque ya NOSOTROS PASTORES NO LES ESTAMOS MANDANDO TANTO DINERO, Y LOS OBISPOS SE ESTAN TAMBIEN "DISPERTANDO"...
Y NO ESTAN PONIENDO TANTA "PRESION" A NOSOTROS LOS PASTORES..
NI TAMPOCO ESTAN LAS HERMANAS "EMBELESADAS," CON MANDAR TANTO PARA
LA fLOR AZUL, QUE ES TOTALMENTE DE LA MESA DIRECTIVA.
DICE MI AMIGO AQUI EN NUEVO MEXICO QUE SANCHEZ HABLO CON RIOS Y LE DIGO QUE "SIGA CON SU VENDIMA" DE LOS HIMNOS APOSTOLICOS, PERO QUE LE MANDE A MAFFEY, EL DINERO QUE CORRESPONDE..
PERO EN VERDAD,
QUE RIOS LE DE LAS FAMILIAS A LOS HIJOS DE LOS COMPOSITORES QUE NO ESTAN RECIBIENDO "NADA".
SOLO DOS FAMILIAS, Y ESTO NO ES GUSTO, NI ETICO, PERO QUE SABE RIOSS Y LA MESA DIRECTIVA DE ETICA, CUANDO NI A LA SECUNDARIA FUERON...
RIOS "DICE" QUE FUE A LA UNIVERSIDAD, PERO NADA DE "ETICA, NI RESPECTO DE DEJAR DE CHISMARLE A LA MESA DIRECTIVA, CONTRA LOS PASTORES DE NUEVO MEXICO.
HERMANOS LES PIDIMOS ENCARECIDAMENTE QUE PORFAVOR OREN PARA QUE "DINOSOURAS" SALGAN., EN EL NOMBRE DE JESUS!
GRACIAS POR SEGUIR "ORANDO" POR NOSOTROS TODOS AQUI EN NUEVO MEXICO.
QUE DIOS QUITE ESTOS "DINASORES DE ESA FAMILIA RIOS".
OREN HERMANOS POR NOSOTROS..!
DIOS LES BENDIGA POR ELLO
NO COMPRE ESOS C.D'S QUE NO TIENE TONO, NI TIEMPO, "DESENTONADOS," Y FRAUDLULENTES.
QUE NO SON DE RIOS, SON DE LA ASAMBLEA Y DE LA IGLESIA DE MEXICO,
Y DE LOS FAMILIARES DE LOS COMPOSITORES APOSTOLICOS....
GRACIAS POR NO COMPRAR PASE LA VOZ, QUE NO COMPREN ESOS C.D.'S QUE NO SON DE L. RIOS, SINO DE LA ASAMBLEA, LA IGLESIA DE MEXICO, Y DE LOS FAMILIARES DE LOS COMPOSITORES APOSTOLICOS!
To The Truth from New Mexico:
Hey, keep up the good
work. I know its a hazzle
but the truth must be
repeated.
Thank God, that the AA
Pastors and members are
waking up.
Maybe its still not "too late".
This scamming must stop on "our songs"
Its a sin, to fool so many
persons, in the name of keeping
the songs.
But it is not worth it. If
scamming is involved.
You are all so "right" we
have "had" it with samming.
Why doesn't the families
of the song writer's families
protest in their own churches.
Have their Pastor call Sanchez.
Sanchez is not that bad.
Especially Valverde and Eddie.
They will "surely" reason with
you Pastors.
And especially the song writer's
families.
The General Board, are quite
reasonable as of lately.
They will surely make arrangements for Rios to include "these song writer's families
to be "justiably" re-inversed
"their monies".
Call them..or E-mail them.
Song writer's families.
To stop this "swindler" what's
his name? Rios.
We hear he is as hard "core" as
an aligator skin.
Wow...
And he sounds so sweet. What
a scammer.!
Don't be fooled! !Beware!
Listen To Truth from New Mexico,
he otta know. This Pastor has
seen it all..and more Pastors
too.
Do some research on Rios, from
the NM Pastors. I did and Wow..
Unbelieable what they told me.
Ask Prado and he will tell
you it is a lie that he golfs.,
But, that is what "one" does, when
an "obession" to golf is involved.
Prado denies it. Call him. I did.,
and he totally and completely
denied it.
Wow!
Rios., Prado does not want any one
to know "he associates with you".
He told me "Rios and I never
speak nor see each other.
Wow...
What a blow to Rios.
Call Prado @ (818) 361-6006.
Leave a message, he "never"
answers.
can somebody provide more details as to what happend in Las Vegas involving pastor Zuñiga and the angel of death,oops i mean! Lugo, why was lugo sent there to put a hit on this church??
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