Thursday, November 13, 2008

BUSTED!!



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Orange County District Attorney
Press Release


Tony Rackauckas, District Attorney
401 Civic Center Drive West
Santa Ana, CA 92701


For Immediate Release
Case # TBA

November 12, 2008

Contacts:
Susan Kang Schroeder
Public Affairs Counsel
Office: 714-347-8408
Cell: 714-292-2718

Farrah Emami
Spokesperson
Office: 714-347-8405
Cell: 714-323-4486


PROTESTANT PASTOR CHARGED WITH MOLESTING
14-YEAR-OLD FEMALE PARISHIONER

NEWPORT BEACH– A Protestant pastor of the Apostolic Christian Church in San Clemente was charged today for molesting a 14-year-old female parishioner that he met through his job. Ricardo Avalos Maffey, 42, Santa Ana, was charged with three felony counts of lewd acts upon a child between the ages of 14 and 15, and one felony count of contacting a minor with the intent to engage in child molest. If convicted, he faces a maximum sentence of five years and six months in prison. He is out of custody on $100,000 bail. Maffey is scheduled to be arraigned Dec. 5, 2008, at 8:30 a.m., Harbor Justice Center, Newport Beach. The Department will be determined later.

Maffey met Jane Doe through his role as a pastor. Between May 2008 and August 2008, the defendant is accused of violating his position of trust by engaging in illegal sexual contact with Jane Doe. On multiple occasions, he is accused of passionately kissing Jane Doe on the mouth. He is also accused of contacting her several times to meet and engage in kissing.

Anyone with additional information or who believes they have been a victim is encouraged to contact District Attorney Supervising Investigator Randy Litwin at (714)347-8794 or the Orange County Sheriff’s Sex Crimes Investigation Unit at (714)647-7419.

The Orange County Sheriff’s Department investigated this case. Deputy District Attorney Tony Ferrentino of the Sexual Assault Unit is prosecuting this case.

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Wasn't Richard Maffey in line to serve on the Apostolic Assembly General Board? Has the organization made a public comment? How far in advance did they know Maffey was performing these lewd acts and did nothing?

Don't worry, the insurance companies will pay the attorney's fee's and penalties.

http://orangecountyda.com/home/index.asp?page=8&recordid=1074&returnurl=index.asp%3Fpage%3D8

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/OC-Pastor-Accused-of-Kissing-Teenage-Girl.html

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/orange/la-me-pastor13-2008nov13,0,1568393.story



http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=4226712&cl=10649090&src=news

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Unknown said...

Ricardo "Richard" Maffey is going to trial for sexual crimes. He'll be found GUILTY. He'll likely be sent to Chino State Prison for a term of years. Get Jail Raped for being a sexual predator against a 14 year old.

The Rev. Ricardo "Richard" Maffey will have to register himself as a SEX OFFENDER for the REST OF HIS LIFE.....

Rev. Ricardo Richard Maffey
Sexual Predator

SLJ said...

Quote:
"richard maffey entered a not guilty plea and there will be a pre-trial hearing set for march 24 at 8:30 am.

the 4th district division 2 court of appeals has issued tentative opinion or disputed issued memo."

normago said...

No Rome, we are in southern California. We are a border state therefore we have a population were people speak spanish and english.
Stop hating yourself and embrace who you are, a mexican-american.

lito said...

rome no seas tan paisa, te aseguro que eres un chicanito del USA. Vives en una tierra que gracias a los ESPANOLES CATOLICOS fue descuvierta y explorada para que se hablara ESPANOL o CASTELLANO. Descubre la historia y conoce el suelo donde pisas y cagas, pendejo pelele. ha, ha,

InglesConBarreras said...
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InglesConBarreras said...

Oyes LITO:
Que no estas en LENT? Durante este tiempo tienes que sacrificarte huey. No debes pelear, maldecir, etc. O ya no vas a misa? Que se me hace que te botaron porque la has regado mas de 100 veces. Te hubieran puesto por nombre "Mangueras"! Por favor banate ya con la manguera que traes y deja de hechar de la madre a tus paisas!
ICB

SLJ said...

Found this and thought it was funny.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSLb7JOtyCI&feature=related


This sounds like Pastor_ _ _ _ _ _
wife ( fill in the blanks)

SLJ said...

Here is one on tithing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3xAiSLG9N8&feature=related

lito said...

dispensen que me exprese de tal manera, como soy humano reconosco y confieso que cometo pecados porque nadie es santo. confieso mis pecados y ruegen por mi pues soy pecador. (recomendacion del APOSTOL SAN PABLO, el confesarnos los unos a los otros).

LET ME TELL YOU WHAT'S NEXT! said...

Spread the Word:
Well-----------------What happened
to you?

Last comments you wrote you truly were for "spreading the word" for the truth and nothing but the truth!

Did a piece of "ice hail hit you?"

Yes I have the kind of feeling you have as far as "exposing" the UPC and also the "Honorables"

Why?
Because I have told that "why did I not speak up before all the years that " accomodations" were provided for the "elite" in the AA?

Although I have been raised in the Apostolic Assembly, when ever the "Honorables" are around they
deliver the "message" of move over , We have arrived!.

Arrived to what? To what the stolen heritage they have taken from all of us members of the AA.

As far as the youth is concerned.

I sincerely believe that if for one reason, which that of accepting the Lord as their personal Savior, then "just like a tree planted by the Waters they will not be moved".

The Apostole Paul has taken, "What will separate us from the love of God? Nor persucussion, nor fire, nor hunger, nor war, nor anything will separate us from the Lord.

You young people have to "fight" for your church. Why because of
troubles against one another. Men have reviled with such much jealously toward each other.

The only way the AA will survive is with the help of the Lord.

Prayer is extremely power. Satan does not want us to pray, because when we pray, "we have authority from God to rebuke, and "remove" anyone that is "fooling us" .

The members of the AA are sincere, and most Pastors are too. Other wise....these Pastors would have already "thrown in the towel". But no they hold on. And the more they find out the "source" of the illness...the more they will pray to have it removed.

To be extremely honest with all of you...and the Lord knows Iam saying the truth..and many of you know that Iam...when you read what Iam going to say.

There has been in the whole History of the AA a handfull of "evil people"...
With all races, cultural issues of "jealouy and envy and evil prevails."

This is why we need to know the "source" where is this 'FRAUD' on elections and "OBESSION OVER MONIES COME FROM"?

How will we survive?

A true Warrior when he needs to win a war, will first find out the "weakness" of the people.

What is the AA weakness right now?

1-Lack of prayer.
2-"one thing I have against you is that you have "left your first love"!!!!

Love conquers all!!!!
So without God and love we have nothing.

Therefore young people fall in love with God more than ever.

God is begging us to pray, so that he will then :administer" Angels to "fight for us."

Pray, for our church: When you love someone...you defend that person...So love your God and church...
Don't leave the AA. Too many young people "suffered", but yet had joy for you to enjoy the fruits of their work..

God bless all of you..

All things are worth, fighting for.

If we did not have so much "apathy" we would really see that Jesus is coming very soon.
insecurity and jealousy we would "tell that tree, be thou removed"..

Look back and see where these so called :honorables" are coming from? and where they are soon!.

Pray and Pray and Pray...God will remove them. Keep the love of God in your heart. Remember Jesus loves you and he died and resurrected for you...

You are worth more than Gold in the eyes of God.

Pray and you will have ministering Angels day and Night!
But
Love and protect. Expose and help heal...in Jesus Name.


If we did not have these blogs, nothing would you truly know on the :honorables:

Thank you Remembering!

MijoTonio said...

Hey TLC/Christie

Nowwwwww I know why you are defending Art Tafoya. You are Arties little meatball. Do you remember as a child when your dad use to take you out to the praries so that you could roam free with all the other buffalos. You and auntie Rose, were beautiful Buffalos. I remember when Rose use to feed off the front lawns of our churches.

You know if you are still obese, you are not going to heaven. For two reason: Gluttony is a sin and gravity will prohibit you from lifting off the ground when the Rapture comes. Anyway my little moo moo, maybe you can tell remembering to pull his head out of your daddies ass.



Remembering you are still a dumbass.

Alembic E said...

LET ME TELL YOU WHAT'S NEXT!

Wow! That was a mouth full!

You're skills on talking smack is great. You're rank is Jedi..

You are a example of the AA's down fall. Hate, greed, "always talking about money". Who was talking about the little Mexican or trying to be a gringo? HA lol.

Every one here understands that Jesus is the only way to heaven. But you think the UPC "the white man" is trying to take all of the sis away. The AA will never let a member grow. They rather tax them, use them, over work them, and drain the money out of them.

You miss the whole point of my statement about the G-12. You rather spread you hate and drag everyone with you.
2 Timothy 3 (King James Version)

2 Timothy 3

1This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.

2For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,

3Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,

4Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;

5Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

6For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
Vs 1-5- sounds like the AA
Vs 6 - sounds like G-12

Peace....

rsvp said...

apostolic news-NO-apostolic gossip!my last blog,in ()cbg on Feb 18 @3:50pm you ADMIT your age of being a 2 yr.old!and STEVEN-Tcomments, he knows 2 yr olds w/ more common sense..me too.cbg needs to grow up ! or shut up !

I owe an apology to Pastor Art and ALL his family.I meant well to speak only good and not evil as some do.and now his children are being attacked. I see all I am doing is fanning the flames of satan and his followers. I want GODS BLESSINGS UPON ME AND MY FAMILY! not satans curse ! so I will tell you what I intended TLC to mean..ready? TENDER, LOVING, CARE !! Nothing more ! nothing less ! I cant believe how I had you ALL fooled ! you insisted I had to be a tafoya for the letter T. it only showed how NOT very smart you were. I LOVE MY APOSTOLIC FAITH TOO MUCH AND MY APOSTOLIC BRETHREN TOO MUCH, AND THE ONE WHO SHED HIS PRECIOUS BLOOD FOR ME, JESUS! all I have to say now, GET READY ! JESUS IS AT THE DOOR. ITS LATER THEN WHEN WE FIRST BELIEVED !! GOD BLESS YOU ALL, FROM T.L.C.

Remembering said...

Poor, poor "little cbg." I hurt his feelings. Why would he have gotten so hurt? I was just informing you bloggers what happen in Indio this past weekend. Folks, the kingdom of the GB is coming down it's just of matter of time so "little cbg" don't be a WHIMP take it like a man!

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MijoTonio said...

Remembering!!!

You are following into my trap? You know why, because I am mentally superior to you. No one's angry I just enjoy calling you a dumbass. Why do you keep attending District Services?

Remembering said...

Brother Albert Lucero: I commend you for your concern regarding all that has happened and is happening in the organization. Unfortunately, the system has failed us because of the constitution being so weak. We the people are at fault as well because we have executed all rights to the leaders by allowing them to have all power over us by making all decisions regarding the church and by not defending our rights to govern our own churches. This is why the leaders do what they do because the constitution protects them and not us. You might say it has always been this way for years since the very beginning. If you think about it those men from the past were humble, fearful and servants of God. They were men of character! There is a saying that I once read which says;
"Ability may get you to the top but only character will keep you there."
That is so much truth to it. Though LMTYWN has been ridiculed many times he or she makes a lot of sense especially when the pastors,elders and bishops are challenged to stand and speak up. Sad to say they are like children who have been physically abused and who are also threatened by the abuser if they speak up. Are we going to wait for more spiritual children to die from the hurt,anger, discouragement and bitterness that can destroy their lives? Just look around and see what they have done to many especially Pastor Torres, Baldemar Rodriguez, David Zuniga and many many more for speaking up. My brother with all due respect have you tried to contact any of the GB members to share your concern and maybe even give them some spiritual advice regarding this matter?

MijoTonio said...

Albert Lucero


Thank you for wanting to reach out to us bloggers. First of all remembering is an idiot.

2nd: how many years have you been in this horrible organization? How many years was Baldemar President? He was the Apostolic Pope for years and he never pushed have local churches incorporated?

Since Abel Torres was a Bishop, do you know if he ever removed pastors when the congregation still wanted them there? What about preventing potential pastors from starting churches?


What do you know About ART. TAfoya: As Bishop he sure ran Pastors out of the Organization. One of those Pastors was his own brother. He said many mean things about his Brother Nat to GAC.


Daniel Solomon: He has lost some good men from his church and prevented them from starting churches. Frank Gallegos was his assistant pastor and now pastors an independent apostolic church in Denver. Imagine if local churches would of been incorporated, Frank could still be in the AA. Andrew Ochoa is now UPC because of Solomon. The Ochoa's are pioneers of the Colorado and New Mexico Districts. Under Daniel Solomons leadership, how many churches did he establish in Denver?

In my opinion, the AA and AWA leaders are evil men. The only reason Torres wants to Incorporate local churches is because he and his congregation are out of a home.


Remembering have you confronted the AWA leaderships about their evil actions as leaders. Please Ask Daniel Solomon about people that have left his church. Ask Abel Torres about Art
ramirez. Ask Art about the Pastor he has ran out of the Organization?


Albert Lucero you are couragous about giving your real name and Thank you. As far as remembering he is a stupid ass. The leadership of both Organizations are not Men of God. All they care about is the properties they have lost.

What do you think of Abel Torres putting his letter on AA.info? He is trying to take more Pastors from the Assembly? He is so full of crap when he says he is not Proselyting?

What do you think of Remembering attending AA district services? This is a true sign of a dumbass.

Remembering the stupido, keeps thinking I defend the AA, but the truth is I despise both sides.


Remembering you are still a dumbass

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Factsonly1 said...

CBG is an Athiest! Pray for him to recieve the Lord!

I call on all Tri-Unified Prophets of Prophet Anthony Romo, Prophet Jess Aguilar and Conservative Prophet Rev. Republican Steve Montenegro to spend a minute and pray for the salvation of the person known in blogosphere as CBG!

CBG needs the the spiritual A Team to pray for him so he can see the way!

Amen!

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Remembering said...

Cbg: Before I say good-bye for the last time to all the bloggers. I feel I owe you an apology for offending you with my words. I pray and hope that someday you will find peace. Believe it or not I have read most of your comments and I can sense that you have been hurt too! Someone I love very much once told me "you know all people are good" and I said "huh!" That person continue saying "when there is a terrible car accident on the road it seems everyone stops to see what they can do." I stopped to think about the observation that was made and you know Cbg, that's true! I am sure some of those folks that have stopped to help have probably cuss or done wrong to someone but when it comes to a terrible car accident or some type of tragedy the good in people comes out such as the "Good Samaritan." Someday I hope to meet you to shake your hand. God bless you!

justice_will_prevail said...

update of aa matters...

sam valverde and edward pacheco just finished firing germain garcia and vince alvarez today. I wonder why they decided to do this after all the help these men provided for them? I wonder how the aa is going to spin this?

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BLACK LIST said...

BISHOP TAFOYA DID A LOT OF GOOD THINGS FOR AZ, LIKE BIBLE COLLEGE AND CAMP!!! IT WAS A BLESSING TO MY LIFE!!

. said...

REMEMBERING, don't you know better then to not use GOD's name in vain?

I'm not asking "let me tell you whats next" to stop, I'm asking him to tell the WHOLE TRUTH and not just part.

What do I know you ask? Quite abit! Enough to expose this fool and the likes of him. Notice he wont answer my questions? Why not? Because he allowed this junk to go on for years, hes' a rat just like the gb.

A real man of God would not stay silent! Even if that means being lynched!

He talks about fighting for the AA, hes only harming her! He is not who he says he is, so that tell us hes fake. He is a fool.

The AA doesn't need the like of him, he will never be remembered because of his cowardness.

So Remembering, you can defend this COWARD of COWARDs but he is still a COWARD! No matter how much history he knows......

Just remember Remembering he WAS there when all this crooked junk was taking place, and kept SILENT!
Am I saying he liked it? No! Did he wisper to his other Coward Pastor friends that he didn't approve? Yes.
But like the Dog with his tail between his legs, he said NOTHING!
KEPT SILENT!

You know why he never talked? Not because he loves the AA, If he loved her he wouldn't hurt her.
Its because of his PAY CHECK!
CHURCH BUILDING! AND TO LORD OVER GOD'S FLOCK! (POWER and MONEY)

The things he accuses the honorables of, he is guilty of himself!

What we need in the Assembly for her to survive is to rid ourselves of these degenerate leaders and their memory STARTING with PAPA NAVA! And put young MEN of GOD like Bro. Sola dei Gloria in leadership, because they are not in it because of the organization but because of love for GOD and his WILL.

Thank you....

P.S. Let me tell you whats next,
God is not begging anyone to pray!

MijoTonio said...

Albert:

Thank you for your response.

Sorry if my comments do not align with biblical principles. Do you think this blog aligns with Godly priniple?.

Do you know Richard Maffey? Do you think it is appropriate to smother his name on the blog when the man has not been proven guilty? Have you rebuked the blogmaster and asked him to align to Godly Principles? If you have please discose. Do you think it is Godly to say Richard Buffett? If you do not, why have you not exhorted the blogger to become more Christ like?

Do you think it is Godly character to call Sam Valverde Pelon? Do you think it is Godly character to attack his family like calling Timo a homosexual?

Do you think it is Godly to attack Bro. Nava? Do you think it is Godly for our psuedo leaders to go to court? This goes for both sides.

This blog is hateful to the defendants, but the way I see it plantiffs deserve to be disgraced as much as the GB.

Baldemar deserves to be called names just as much as the GB because he was President for such a long time.

Why is it when I would call Anti GB people dumbasses then it was ok, but now that I have only aired out dirty laundry from our so called righteous men (defendants) then I get a friendly exhortation. Well my brother, I will respect your advice when I see postings rebukings comment such as richard buffet. Go back through all the postings and rebuke ungodly insults.

Good to know that Art. Tafoya prayed you through the holy ghost. I sure wish his gifts would rid him of his love for money.

Anyway, if the GB deserve the horrible that are being then so do the plantiffs. Sorry I can not take the highroad. I prefer the low road and I will keep blogging.


Cabezon, Burro, Guey (By the way Enrique gave me that Godly name).

Remembering it is all good!!!

. said...

Albert Lucero,

who are you to come here and rebuke? You're nobody BUBA! If you want to make a name for yourself find another place fool.

You talk alot and say nothing (your last post) what can you comment on? Not a Damn thing! You Fool! Who cares if you give your real name? Your Nobody! Even in California!

So go pat yourself on the back, for trying but you failed!

Oh I will take you up on the offer and contact your wife :) For counseling :)

im4reform said...

Can anybody confirm that brothers Germain Garcia and Vince Alvarez have been fired from the AA and why?

SLJ said...

I don't think Brother Albert was rebuking anyone. He was just giving a brotherly word to CBG.

On my behalf Brother Albert thank for the words you have written on here. It has cause to me double think what I write and make sure what I have written what is true and not heresay.

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MijoTonio said...

Albert Lucero

You did advise everyone to watch their words. You are the only one ammong us that is wise (I say this with sincerity).

If Art. Tafoya is the blogmaster of this blog, then he is a true scumbag. For one who has a gift of praying people through the holyghost, if he is the blogmaster, then he truly is pathetic.

I hope you have a wonderful evening and maybe someday I will try to contact you.

Anonymous said...

Bro.'s Garcia & Alvarez were in fact FIRED for a presumed leak of financial information, during the deposition of Valverde & Pacheco at Bro. Willie Mendozas hearing a few days ago. Information that was believed to be known only by those in the Gen. Offices. A very reliable source that spoke to one of the unemployed Bro.'s confirmed that the information obtained by the deposing attorney was highly confidential, but was not shared by either of the two Bro.'s as assumed by the K-GB.

lehan said...

Im4reform it is true that Vince and Germain were fired.

Let me surprise you all with the background Story.

Valverde and Pacheco were deposed and they kept on saying that they could not recall the count of votes that Pacheco had and he said he could not recall. Well Bro. Willie Attorney pulled out the exact votes. Showed them to pacheco and pacheco had nothing he could say.

So him and his cousin fly back and fire Vince and Germain.

For a short little man he sure has a loud voice he was screaming in the offices.

So we will see how this turns out.
Now the attorney has the evidence to confirm what Torres witnessed.

Hang on folks there seems to be a twist in the PLOT.

SLJ said...

Its was predicted that 2009 was going to be the fall of the dishonorables.
You can only lie so much till it catches up to you.
Look like bishop Pacheco got caught with his pants down.
Whats the story of Tovar and the Italy trip?
If anyone knows.

SLJ said...

K- GB LOL..good one!

Skotty Will Show You said...

hmmmm... Who Were They Official Vote COunters... and Where Are They Now???

Ne1???

DOES THAT MEAN THAT VINCE IS OUT OF THE AA NOW???

im4reform said...

Bro. Germain,

Don't loose heart, Rejoice in that you don't have to show up any longer to a place of fraud and deception. The Lord rescued you. We are praying for you. You have a servants heart. The Lord will take care of you and your family. He will also judge those who hold the Truth in unrighteousness.

M. R. Burgos said...

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I would like invite all to come to my website as it pertains to the apostolic faith...

www.onenessheresy.blogspot.com

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ynos said...

According to insiders at AA- South Texas District, Bishop David Tovar has not resigned nor will he but he realizes that the "kgb" is after him. The kgb will pull any ploy to remove the men they don't like to insert their men. I am pretty sure that Bishop Alfredo Peña is turning in his grave in seeing all this drama that has taken place after he left. If they manage to pull Tovar down, then Arcadio Peña is next in line for that position.

sola dei gloria said...

Faithful Witness

You have let Greek philosophy corrupt the Christian concept of God.

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Anonymous said...

Faithful Witness,

I respectfully ask you to take your Man Made Trinitarian, Tri Une Doctrine elsewhere.

There are errors in the way Trinitarians view The Godhead and there are errors in how Apostolics view Grace and works.

However this is not a site for proselytizing.

Stick to the topic dude !

cbg said...

I will have my Tri-unified prophets of Aguilar, Romo, and Montenegro pray for this unfaithful witness so he can come to know the TRUE trinity of prophets.

Thank God I can pray to these men to get answers!

lehan said...

Factsony you might want to get them to pray that they can ask God to burn the votes before the GB trail date in houston. lol

cbg said...

OK bloggers here is the latest from Az! A person (nameless) who is close enough to Tafoyas told me that exbishop Art IS NOT happy with the AWA leadership, and this week confirmed a deal with Sanchez to return back to the AA.

(nameless) told me just to wait and see everything unfold within the next couple of weeks. WOW!!!

cbg said...

Ho, and apparnetnly Valverde and Tafoya are buddy buddies again! Go figure!

lehan said...

So I wonder what the Board is going to do because Vince is appreciated at the church.

I wonder how Sam's church is going to be like this coming sunday.

Maybe pretty empty as it is he has already lost a lot of members

SLJ said...

Like they say rats of a feather stick together, or was that birds?

what is going to happen next said...

The new latest developments on Valverde & Pachecos tantrums in the General Offices that lead to the firing of two good men is unbelievable! All this time these two members of the GB had us all fooled that Abel Torres was a liar and a troublemaker and the rest that are with him.
Now I'm hearing of this good lawyer W. Mendoza has in Houston,Tx that caught these two GB members in a lie when he asked if they had any knowledge of the fraud that was commited in 2006 and they denied it! But being the good lawyer he is then he threw them a curve ball when he showed them the ballots he had before him and caught them (Valverde,Pacheco) telling the biggest lie. NO ONE HAD BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT!! WOW!!

WatchOut! said...

I wish Garcia and Alvarez had gotten their cell phones out and gotten some footage of Pacheco and Valverde throwing their tantrum!

This is crazy! Wow! Down with the gb!

As I said before "LA MENTIRA DURA MIENTRAS QUE LA VERDAD APARECE".

La VERDAD esta apareciendo!!

Unknown said...

CBG Said:

QUOTE:

"
Do you know Richard Maffey? Do you think it is appropriate to smother his name on the blog when the man has not been proven guilty? Have you rebuked the blogmaster and asked him to align to Godly Principles? If you have please discose. Do you think it is Godly to say Richard Buffett? If you do not, why have you not exhorted the blogger to become more Christ like?"


Wow! That coming from someone who slimes people on a hourly basis.

Now we are supposed to believe that CBG is a spiritual man?

I guess the pedofilia, accused pedofilia of Richard Maffey hit a nerve....

WatchOut! said...

TWO VOTES!

PACHECO obtained his well payed position on the GENERAL BOARD OF THE AA with TWO VOTES!

WatchOut! said...

TWO VOTES!

PACHECO'S two votes were his and Valverde's! What a laughingstock duo!

WatchOut! said...

Its NO longer "yo me bautizo si oras por mi".

Its NOW "yo voto por ti si tu votas por mi".

WatchOut! said...

OH, I bet Pacheco and Valverde are on the blogs big time watching their ratings go like the stock market!

IAMREAL said...

to: Caminando Voy...
you're right...their ratings have hit the underside of a pregnant ant. There is NO bailout for them...

to: KnowitinAZ
RE: Art Tafoya... it doesn't make any difference if he goes back or not, the AWA doesn't work on that principle...you can fellowship or choose not to fellowship with whomever you want...no hassles. In the AWA, your "church" is incorporated and is a "sovereign" entity unto its own. I for one hope that they do stay friends, perhaps they can heal each others woes'

Albert....dude...thanks but no thanks...keep on posting if you like...but the truth cannot stay hidden for long...either with the K-GB or at FLC, it will come to light....oh, by the way, we know you make mistakes...we do too...you dont have to keep reminding us how "pious" you are...

IAMREAL

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Anonymous said...

KnowitinAZ,

A very reliable source, with Authority in the AWA, has told me that Art may not like the AWA, but it goes both ways cause the AWA is on the move to kick him out anyway. I think that is why he hurried himself to the AA, he is trying to beat them to the punch. Hopefully soon, so that the AZ churches can unite without worry of the ____________(fill in the blank).

SLJ said...

Quotes of the week

"The K- GB"

"yo voto por ti si tu votas por mi".

"their ratings have hit the underside of a pregnant ant."
_____________________________

Funny funny stuff....LOL

SLJ said...

Quote

A very reliable source, with Authority in the AWA, has told me that Art may not like the AWA, but it goes both ways cause the AWA is on the move to kick him out anyway. I think that is why he hurried himself to the AA, he is trying to beat them to the punch. Hopefully soon, so that the AZ churches can unite without worry of the ___RAT_________(fill in the blank).

Unknown said...

Wait, let me get this straight, wasn't Art Taf the suject to an infamous AA "Audit" not long ago?

Didn't you people, CBG and company accuse Art Taf of stealing money from his church and the Az District?

Now the AA are welcoming him back? huh?

you guys crack me up. I'm getting the impression you are bi-polar.

The AA is a real organization like the Southern Baptist Convention.

lehan said...

Sorry to say but your reliable source is good for reliable chisme.

It is not even close to true about themm kicking out Art they are not like the AA.

The AA kicks out people even from their own office.


So what is the news on vince and brother germain.

I can not believe how sad Sam church is going to look this sunday.

SLJ said...

Probably like this

http://nakedpastor.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/authority_2.jpg

SLJ said...

Emergency Board meeting"

http://www.baptiststandard.com/2003/1_27/images/cartoon.jpg

Factsonly1 said...

You guys are the devil manifested on earth! Bishop Valverde's services have been jamm packed with members and souls!

LIARS! I rebuke you! Liars go the middle of the earth! That place is hell and you'll be there with your father, SATAN!

Bishop Valverde is dedicated to winning souls! He has reaped a a harvest of souls!

Sow your seeds is lies Satan! Your end is to be put in the inner part of the earth to burned forever!

Amen!

cbg said...

I call on the Tri-unified prophets of Romo, aguilar , and Montenegro to send down fire from heaven and fry all you whoremongers! I light candles to these Tri-unified prophets and have asked them to save your souls.

Look unto to them and be saved!

cbg said...

I also commend bishop art tafoya for leaving that Satan led AWA and returning back to the ONLY church that will take you to heaven, the AA. If we could make canonize saint Sanches would be our pope and the Tri-unified prophets of romo, aguilar, and montenegro would be his trinity!

SLJ said...

Light candles?
Sanches would be pope?

" factsonly1 said...
I call on the Tri-unified prophets of Romo, aguilar , and Montenegro to send down fire from heaven and fry all you whoremongers! I light candles to these Tri-unified prophets and have asked them to save your souls."

Wow looks like things are hot at headquarters....LOL

IAMREAL said...

"fatsonlyonce"....you bust me up..you have absolutely nothing intelligent to say...you must be on the K-GB...I am pretty sure that's your plan here in this blog...what else would someone like you want than to throw the "hounds" off the scent....we can smell you...you are filled with the stench of K-GB....keep up the "good" work...I am sure that you will be rewarded from on high for your silly rants...

IAMREAL

LET ME TELL YOU WHAT'S NEXT! said...

It is just a matter of time when "everything will explode" in the "honorabales faces>

The avalanche is already ""ROARING".
AND FAST!!!!!!!

What they think they were "doing" messing up BiG Time with the Church of the Lord. That was redeemed at Calvary?

Brother Vince Alvarez, and Brother Garcia were both "born" in the AA.

The Alvarez's, through "thick and thin., suffered, fought, condemed all sin and were the "biggest legalists in the entire AA.




So 'NEVER' WOULD Vince Alvarez, not do what he did."SELL THEM OUT"!!!!THANK YOU BROTHER VINCE!!!!


THAT IS EXACTLY WHY I HAVE BEEN WRITING AND WRITING, BECAUSE IT WILL BE YOU YOU AND YOU AND YOU "BEAUTIFUL YOUNG" PEOPLE AS THE YOUNG MEN WITH "GIDEON" THAT "FOUGHT" AND THE YOUNG MEN LIKE JOSHUA AND CALEB", THAT WERE NOT "COWARDS"...

FIGHT, PRAY AND INTERCEED FOR YOUR CHURCH.
"EXPOSE THEM' AND GOD WILL POUR DOWN HIS BLESSINGS ON YOU...

FACTS ONLY HA!
WHAT DO YOU MEAN VALVERDE IS "DEDICATED IN SAVING SOULS"..
YOU MUST BE "KIDDING" YOU ARE HUH?

YOU ARE?????
WHAT PASTOR WOULD "FOR SELF GLORY" COMMITT HIS CONGREGATION TO "BRING UP $80,000.00 PER MONTH....AS A MORTAGE PAYMENT....

"FOR SOULS" WINNING......YOU GOTTTTTAAAAA BE JOKING....PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!

THANK YOU SISTER JUANITA AND THANK YOU BISHOP (RETIRED) VICENTE ALVAREZ SR.!!!!
For "teaching your son" to Defend God's church.....that cost 100 years of 'HARD" SACRIFICES AT CALV ARY AND FROM THE "FIRST WORKERS OF THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST.

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU..
How did Pacheco and Valverde, the two Tijuana "wanna be" never been "Bishops", come to the reality that these two brothers were the "whistle blowers"?

What do you think Valverde, Sanchez and Pacheco, that all the ones working in the GB office are"backstabbers, "JUDAS INCARNATE? "Like all of you "honorables are to the AA???"


THE CHURCFH THAT "TRIED" TO GIVE YOU CARACTER AND "TRIED" TO HELP YOU BE "GOD FEARING" AND THE CHURCH THAT "MADE YOU WEATHLY"??????

You "honorables" are absolutely "wrong" if you think that these "YOUNG THIRD, FOURTH AND FIFTH BEAUTIFUL GORGEOUS AND EDUCATED YOUTH., ARE GOING TO "QUIT FIGHTING FOR THE AA, GOD'S CHURCH......................................................................THEIR ROOTS...............
"THESE YOUNG PEOPLES HAVE HEEARD ENOUGH OF YOUR "SCAMS" AND ARE TOO EDEUCATED AND CONCECRATED TO GIVE UP.....

coming up leaders, THEY ARE DEFINATELY going to 'EXPOSE YOU"..

But then what am I thinking. You all "honorables" are lacking alot of things. Lack of fear of God, lack of respect for the Church and the Brethren and 'NO COMMON SENSE".

YOUR "GREED" FOR POWER, CONTROL AND MONEY HAS "BLINDED YOU"...

NO WONDER YOUR WIVES LOOK LIKE "MONIQUE OF THE ADAMS'S FAMILY.

YOU HAVE TOTALLY "WASTED YOUR WIVES" AND THERE IS "NO RETURN, FOR THOSE POOR SOULS."

Just ask Dan Jauhall on that one.
He was one of those always "PLAYING CHURCH.."
WANNA LOOK .GOOOOOOODD AND HIS POOR SPOUSE...LOOK NOW..

These poor women are "asorbed" with no "personal I. D. with no taste, with "no choices" with no
ministry of their own.
Hey buddies, Salvation is "individual" Not "subduded" no "personality identification"..

Christ came to also "deliver" the women from "bondage". But these "honorables" are "pros at destroying these poor unidentied women...."

That big time, Mafia, control and machismo.
That;s not "holiness", that "Control and munipulation".

But these women love it!!!
Well now look what happned to David Tovar...he also got "fed up and what did he do in Italy?"

TODAY HE CALLED THE GB AND He just "resigned this morning" from the Espiscopal Appointment, and is now independent...

Has already "set up the "corner stone of the New "Church" he is building ...and where did he get the money to buy 12 acres of land...???????
FROM THE AA AND THE G-12 GROUPS.


And see that is what happens when you "establish in foreign foundation"..

www.G-12.com


Those of you that were at the last convention did you "read" right through the "words" of Valverde , he had "Sanchez" standing by his side, at the "power of the podium" , and saying to all of us at the service...how "ill and withered and "feeble" and how "beat and decreptive Sanchez looked!!!.
That Sanchez "faints", but doesn"t fall, every day at the GB office. that Sanchez cries and cries...

That Valverde is strong, and holds him and "give Sanchez courage".

Well "bite the bait",PASTORS... and know that what is going on is that "Valaverde is "already" in his 'POLITICAL CAMPAGIN FOR NEXT ELECTIONS.'

SAYING , "LOOK AT ME I"M STRONG,I'M NOT FALLING APART.
"CHEAT ME IN" in fraud elections.


To be honest with you....Listen to this....Valverde should be impeached becausse he is in violation of the AA 's constitution.
AND THE AA CONSTITUTION IS CERTIFED AND SEALED IN SACRAMENTO AND IN WASHINGTON D.C.

Becauses Valverde was never in line with the ConstitutioN. He never was a District Supervisor, not a Bishop which is the same thing.

So he "violated" the constitution of the AA., and those that "pulled him in."


SAYING "I'LL BE A NEXT PRESIDENT.
HE CANNOT BE ...BECAUSE HE NOT ONLY "CHEATED FOR HIS COUS" BUT HE "ALLOWED TO VIOLATE THE CONSTITION AND NEVER WAS DISTRICT SUPERVISOR, NOT BISHOP...

HIS COUS...PACHECO WAS A MISSIONARY, RUNNING FROM "THE LAW ON THE CAR SCAM, IN CHILE"

EVEN IF HE "SO CALLED" SUPERVISOR IN CHILE...HE WAS ALSO IN "VIOLATION OF THE AA'S CONSTITUTION..BECAUSE HE WAS NEVER A SUPERVISOR HERE IN THE STATES.

LIKE THE SAYING GOES...ITS NOT WHAT YOU KNOW NOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE, BUT "ITS WHO YOU KNOW"..

DIRTY POLITICS...

SAVE YOUR CHURCH., FIGHT FOR IT. CLAIM IT AND "BRING BACK" "LA SANA DOCTRINA, FROM JESUS CHRIST AND THE APOSTLES..

"LOVE YOUR BROTHER AS YOURSELF"..

"IN AS MUCH AS YOU DID IT TO ONE OF MY LITTLE ONES...YOU DID IT "UNTO ME."


GOD BLESS YOU.

KEEP UP THE "GREAT WORK GB INSIDERS"...

WARS HAVE BEEN WON, WITH THE "WORK OF THE UNITY OF THE BRETHREN...

REMEMBER THE ERLY CHURCH PERSECUCION?

THERE WAS "BIG TIME SPIES, INFORMERS, AND CHRISTIAN BRETHREN SAVERS...

INTERSESORY PRAYER...AS THE BRETHREN DID FOR THE APOSTOLES WHO WERE INCARCERATED....!!!

THANK YOU BROTHER VINCE AND BROTHER GARCIA. THE LORD IS GOING TO BLESS YOU IN A MIGHTY WAY.

You were in the postion to defend the church and you did!

THAT'S COURAGE!!!

The Lord will honor this, as he did with Joshua and Caleb.....
And David...

lehan said...

From the way we here Valverde has had a loss of membership and then selling out Vince who is loved and appreciated.

You kingdom falls. I heard you all had a convention as soon as it was inaugurated and you made no amount of money and it was very lame.

Unknown said...

Regarding 2Vote Eddie. If you read the constitution, it does NOT say that he has to be a bishop in the US.

Eddie became a Bishop in Chile because he was supervising a few countries in South America.

east los said...

TO R.R.

GIRL CALL ME, FIX THAT PHONE...
THE SISTER AT THE CHURCH HAVE BEEN TEASING ME ABOUT THIS BLOG...

DID YOU READ BLOG. SENT TO ME ON MARCH 6th

WOW... HIS DESIRE, SCARE ME
WHATS GOING ON?
LUSTFUL PASSION ON/LINE?

...QUOTE...I INVITE YOU TO E/MAIL ME SO WE CAN DISCUSS YOUR CONCERNS OFF LINE FROM THIS BLOG.

...QUOTE...TAKE CONVERSATION OFF LINE SO YOU CAN FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE AND YOUR CONVERSATION COULD BE KEPT CONFIDENTIAL.

WHAT IS HE THINKING?

HES A MARRIED MAN,NOT ONLY THAT HES A APOSTOLIC MARRIED MAN, AND HE SHOULD KNOW BETTER.

WHY DOES HE WANT TO TALK TO ME OFF LINE TO MAKE ME MORE COMFORTABLE.

MORE COMFORTABLE?
MORE COMFORTABLE DOING WHAT?

AND ARE CONVERSATION COULD BE KEPT CONFIDENTIAL.
CONFIDENTIAL?
WHAT DOES HE WANT TO SAY TO ME THAT A CONVERSATION WOULD HAVE TO BE KEPT CONFIDENTIAL?

NOTICE HE HAS A BLOG. WITH A PICTURE OF HIMSELF AND HIS WIFE BUT I WONDER IF HIS WIFE KNOWS HE IS ASKING ANOTHER APOSTOLIC SISTER TO TALK TO HIM AWAY FORM THE BLOG. I HAVE CHOSEN TO VOICE MY OPINION ON.

HE SEEMS TO QUOTE THE BIBLE A LOT..

BUT SO DID PASTOR RICHARD M.
AND LOOK WHAT HAPPEN TO HIM.

DIPPITY DOO
A LITTLE DAB WILL DO YOU IN...

DESIRE IS A MOTIVATING FORCE
IT CAN MAKE YOU DO THINGS
YOU NEVER THOUGHT YOURSELF CAPABLE
OF DOING.

LUST CAN MAKE A MAN
BREAK HIS COMMITMENT TO HIMSELF

IT WILL CAUSE PEOPLE TO
REACH AFTER THINGS THEY
NEVER THOUGHT THEY WOULD REACH FOR.

GIRL CALL ME IT GETTING CRAZY OVER HERE...

east los said...

TO REMEMBERING...

GOOD=BYE ... YOU WILL BE MISSED

REMEMBER YOU CAN ALWAYS CHANGE YOUR BLOG. NAME

AND POST A COMMENT AND GIVE YOUR
OPINION ON WHAT YOU THINK OR FEEL

ITS YOUR OPINION AND IT COUNTS
WE ARE HERE FOR YOU
WE READ IT ALL
GOOD OR BAD
AND YOU DONT HAVE TO GIVE YOUR NAME
ITS A BLOG.

sola dei gloria said...

What happened to faithful witness??

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WatchOut! said...

SO 2Vote Eddie became a Bishop while on the run from the law due to his car-scamming operation! Now that's a new twist.

Sounds like an addendum for the already holeee AA Constitution or maybe for the infamous CID.

Clause __a.1
. . . One may ascend to the position of Bishop even though he is running from the law but has skedaddled and is safely out of reach from the law in another country. Once things cool down he may then return to said country and run for a well paid position on the general board, for which only TWO VOTES are required IF, and only IF, you are related to another board member. . .

trophyman said...

To CBG!
OK! We are all in accord that you are ASStupido no question! It was fun watching u @ FOT you are just as asstupid as I thought! Your papi pelon Valverde preached his regular TBN message! Yous mamita Rachel does need to sign up at Curves, and yo sista she needs some skincare products! I have some clips that I will post here at a later date you folks are pretty strange. This will be my last post here as trophyman! I no longer have access to Rancho Cucamonga they fired my insider!
So long my audience!

LA DIST. W/No Insight into Rancho Cucamonga

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MijoTonio said...

Trophyman


You are the greatest dumbass of all.

What I find funny is that you still attend FOT. When it was offering time you gave the biggest offering. When Pelon, as you say it, made an altar call you ran to the altar. At the altar, you cried like the pussy you are or the first time USMC stretched your rectal muscles. You probably cry, because youR LOVER USMC is getting gang raped by his Marine Corp lovers.


Another ASStupido would be Germaine. Slick willie Mendoza handed his ass to him. Germaine was Slick Willie's useful idiot. Germaine gave him info and in the end slick willie exposed him and now Germaine is unemployed. That my friend is what you call an "USEFUL IDIOT" MAYBE SLICK WILLIE CAN HIRE GERMAINE AS HIS ASSISTANT PASTOR SINCE GERMAINE PUT HIS NECK ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK. (lol)

Ding ding ding Dumbass of the year award goes to Germain. Take this award and see how much it helps you on unemployment dumbass,

Vince alvaraz he will be OK since he still has his police pension. Maybe now that he is fired, the AA can rightfully return their insurance business to Gregory Ruff.











Vince Alvaraz, cou

Unknown said...

I hardly ever post my comments. I like to do is hit and run, post my comment till its my turn again. Nothing could be further from the truth about Arturo Tafoya. There is no reconciliation between him and the ol a.a. the gbers have their people writing these lies about A.T. In fact we all know the it is the a.a. that is falling apart before our very eyes. Who ever is posting about A.T. is a mountain of information. A.T. will stay with the A.W.A. Sounds like a good wrestling match eh.

Unknown said...

Sorry, mopuntain of misinformation.

east los said...

TO MR AND MRS LUCERO

I APOLOGIZE TO YOU BOTH...

I WAS BEING TEASED A LOT ABOUT YOUR
BLOG. ABOUT ASKING ME TO TALK AWAY FOR THE BLOG. I HAVE CHOSEN TO VOICE MY OPINION ON..

AND YES I AM HIDING BEHIND A ALIAS
BUT SO IS EVERY ONE ELSE WHO BLOG.

AND IF I AM NOT WRONG, I THINK YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE WHO IS NOT. GOOD FOR YOU...

PLEASE LET ME VOICE MY OPINION, JUST LIKE YOU HAVE LET EVERY BODY ELSE...

I APOLOGIZE

LORD I APOLOGIZE FOR WHAT I MISUNDERSTOOD,AND WROTE IN THIS BLOG... TO THE LUCERO

GOD BLESS YOU BOTH

east los said...

TO MY SISTERS

THANK YOU FOR CALLING ME AND TALKING TO ME REGARDING BROTHERS POSTING...

LOVE YA ALL

polloloco said...

ALERT ALERT ALERT ALERT!!!!

BISHOP DAVID TOVAR FROM SOUTH TEXAS DISTRICT RESIGNED YESTERDAY! APPARENTLY FROM SOURCES DOWN IN SOUTH TEXAS HE DID NOT WANTED TO BE ENJUICIADO BY THE GB SO HE DECIDED TO RESIGN BEFORE. I KNOW PEOPLE IN SOUTH TEXAS AND I ASK FOR EVERYONE TO PRAY FOR THAT DISTRICT. THIS DISTRICT HAS A LOT OF HISTORY AND GOOD MEN HAVE EMERGED FROM THIS REGION. FROM WHAT MY SOURCES TELL ME I THINK IT HAS TO DO WITH SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED IN ITALY WHILE BROTHER TOVAR WAS A MISSIONARY IN THAT COUNTRY AND ALLEGEDLY BRO. TOVAR WAS HAVING A RELATIONSHIP WITH A MARRIED WOMAN FROM THE CHURCH IN ITALY. WELL, THIS DISTRICT HAS HAD TWO BISHOPS AND BOTH HAD BEEN KICKED OUT FOR SIMILAR CAUSES. WHATS GOING ON WITH OUR LEADERS? THEY ARE HAVING AFFAIRS LEFT AND RIGHT? I DONT KNOW WHAT TO THINK NOW, BUT PLEASE PRAY FOR SOUTH TEXAS DISTRICT ITS GOING THRU VERY TOUGH TIMES. GOD BLESS!!!

Unknown said...

Kicked out of church for an affair with another woman? lol Some of these fat old farts should be promoted to Arch Bishop for that.

Now and days we should be thankful their not having affairs with other men! lol

Besides, some of these fat old farts deserve a side of pooo taang. The GB, the whining ministers, the sector elders, the fatass bishop, fatass Georgina Marron squeezing more Flor Azul. The pressure is enourmous. Our pastors need a break from it all.

An order of some side poooh tang is ok.

We should be greatful their aint these girlymen/ladyboys on the American apostolic praise team idol circcuit, ala Jospephina Espinoza, those feminine faggots of gb5.

Anonymous said...

TO ANY CONCHO THATS INTERESTED:

THE AA HAS WON THE APPEAL.

ynos said...

tumero...

If the AA did win the appeal then it does make sense that they fired Bros. Vince and Germain. If you thought that Sanchez and his crew ruled with an iron fist, you all in the AA better hold on because the bulldozer is on a clearing path for your highness, Sam the Sham and the Pharohs, singing "Wolly Bully"!

lehan said...

Yeah tumero your right the have won the appeal but they already started losing key players in Pastors in these past two days.

I would not be to excited yet.
It is such a bad thing to fire your bookkeeper you never know what he will bring out of the closet get ready AA.

We are about to see one of the biggest divisions now that all the skeletons are about to come out of the closet.

justice_will_prevail said...

ynos...

Your the man and must be a throw back because Sam the Sham and the Pharohs are a group back from the 60 with their gold hit "Wolly Bully". I found this clip on You Tube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHF558u6Q_8 Could you post the lyrics to this song?

Perfect description of what is going on in the AA as they prepare the way for 2010 elections. I just hope that the electorate then will not allow the KGB to do it to them once again.

ynos said...

walla...

Wolly Bully Lyrics by Sam The Sam And The Pharaos
Hatty told Matty about a thing she saw:
had two big horns and a wolly Jaw.

Wolly Bully
Wolly Bully

Wolly Bully
Wolly Bully

Wolly Bully.

Hatty told Matty
let's don't take a chance

let's not be just someone come and learn to dance.

Wolly Bully
Wolly Bully

Wolly Bully
Wolly Bully

Wolly Bully.

Matty told Hatty that's the thing to do

get you someone pretty to pull the wool with you.

Wolly Bully
Wolly Bully

Wolly Bully
Wolly Bully

Wolly Bully.


http://www.lyricz.net/

Anonymous said...

I'M NOT EXCITED OR GLAD EITHER WAY ABOUT ANYTHING, JUST POSTING INFO.

JUST OUT CURIOSITY WHAT PASTORS HAVE LEFT?

Seven-T said...

Does anyone have an update on End Times Restoration?

From LA District said...

End Time Just ended an hour ago .
It was awesome as usual . Good preaching
Dr. Jeffers was really good.
So was Bro. Fortino,Hoyer,Mendoza,Tenny
&Loammi Diaz,

Factsonly1 said...

End Time has come for the AWA! They lost the appreal and now are eating there words! Liars and decieters!

The truth is with God's appointed! The Apostolic General Board! Today they proved to justified! Amen!

Victory goes to all Tri-Unified Prophets for praying in a intercessory prayers! Amen!

Amen!
Amen!
AMEN!!

MijoTonio said...

Trophyman:
Trophyman!!

Your boys efforts were in vain? You, Vince and Germain should start an End Restoration conference for Dumbasses. You guys can be the speakers.

Were you in the altar at End Time crying like a big Wuss? Asking the lord to forgive you for putting the chingas to germaine?


Did you hear (that is after you pulled your head out of USMC's ass) that the GB had the victory from the legal system. Oops I meant their second victory.

Germaine should come and blog with us. If he does blog, he should use his real name.

IAMREAL said...

If the AA Constitution has allowed these so called "HONORABLE" men to do what they do, it STILL DOES NOT MEAN THAT IT IS RIGHT BEFORE THE LORD!!!! Keep in mind that the Court was ruling on the validity of the AA Constitutional Document and the application of it in this case. Not, Are they righteous or perfect or morally or ethically justified in doing what they did. If the AA constitution allowed these mean to Rape, Murder and Pillage and the local authorities said that it was "allowed" by the constitution, would it make it right? NO, IT wouldn't. This just makes the AWA much more attractive to all of those that want OUT of this CORRUPT system. Daniel, you and all of your cronies will pay for your transgressions against the general church body.

IAMREAL

SLJ said...

And pay they will!!!!!

Unknown said...

Surely both sides,without a doubt have said, We'll leave it in Gods hands. My ? is, has God truely anwered or has the law of the land answered. With out a doubt both sides have said one or the other, yes the Lord has answered or no the Lord has not answered.

SLJ said...

The only losers are us. We have been left out in the pasture, because of uncaring Bishops. Who rather be off preaching at endtimes then to deal with the real issues of bad pastors.

porq said...

Listen precious saints, friends and all supporters of the AAFCJ Inc.!!
Take heed and beware, it's more of a devious eco-political bitterly driven machinery and not so much a religious organization nowadays.
It's full of deception, nepotism, cronyism and ingrained with carnal
vindictive practices.

Someone once said - Woe to the nation
that receives her conquerors beating the drums. Woe to the nation that hates oppression in her sleep and accepts it in her awakening. Woe to the nation that raises her voice only behind a coffin and prides itself only in the cemetery. Woe to a nation that
does not revolt until her neck is placed on the scaffold. by kg

Scripture - for the love of money, is the root of ALL evil. by Ap


FLEE ... for your lives and souls!!

porq said...

Clarification and corrections =

.. eco-political means is economic-politically

and ADD

...inherently and generationaly
ingrained with carnal vindictive ways and practices.

Unknown said...

Its Over. The AA will never be the same. It has abused God and has turned the Cross into a profit center.

God will not tolerate the prostitutionalization of Christ.

Anonymous said...

The AA may continue to win the court battles.

However the time will come when they will have to answer to a higher authority !

Just like King Nebbuchednazzar who was proud and boastful, these men will some day be humbled.

And if you do not humble yourself, repent and turn from your ways, while God is tugging at your heart.

He will get your attention in a much harsher way and it will be big, nasty and very very public.

We would all do ourselves alot of good to just focus on our own walk with God, contribute to our local church and let the sinking ship that is The AA GB sink into the depths of the ocean of greed and power.

Save yourselves and let them sink !!!!!!!!!

porq said...

Match the pair to their known fact:

Daniel/Eva Sancheese
Sam/Raquel Vasverde
Eddie/____ Pachueco
Leos/_____ Masfeo
Martin/___ del Bosque
Abel/_____ Aguilar
Arturito/Ruth Espinozados
Victor/____ Padrasto


Just here 4 da ride & son's driving

Bernice Molina ties / scam / 2 vote

Produce marketer / grand plagiarism

"Quemame" song / Projecto Mi Canto

Spit, speed and hurt my ears preacher / Here's to my sons wealth

Señor Bean / U gotta march to our drum beat boys or else (AA pastors)

"I'm in charge here!" / Mexican-China man Lirarace w/ no cajones

"Yo quiero mas taco bell / el CIDa

An exercise just for fun during the Spring break... ha ha ha ha ha

porq said...

Correction - Abel/______ M' Aguitas


Oh, saben q? AA tambien ya se fue a la Chihuahua y con las Chivas?!?

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ynos said...

Hear ye, hear ye AWA is coming at us...

Event: Apostolic World Alliance Youth Conference
Dates: Thursday July 23, 2009 - Saturday July 25, 2009
Time: 6:00 PM
Place: Phoenix, Arizona

Prepare for a Youth Conference that will EMPOWER YOU, STRENGTHEN YOU, and SUPPORT YOU!

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Be on the lookout for GEN-M's new website, a event poster and newsletter coming soon.

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porq said...

TO: Ynos, otros seniors q activity?

jk

But, seriously and as a heads up. Please make sure youth pastors or more importantly parents know where their own kids are at? You be prepare to have a few monitors in the hotel lobbies and to walk the hotel main hallways, to try to encourage everybody 2 be @ events.

At all costs, avoid the sad, known Californication of the 80's & 90's!

Be watchful should any Flor Azulers
of the AA show up aka as timmos, el
Jontes, los ponchos y de los tales.

For the love of God and our youth,
don't be complacent, ignorant or be ignorant of this tendency TODAY!

Just a word of caution and advise.

Paz del Reino llueva sobre nosotros

Keep up the good Word and work ...

MijoTonio said...

Porq.


Did you know that Enrique USMC, and Trophyman are jotos/Flor Azulers.


CBG

porq said...

Pa cbg, acho!! de veras q si?! Ellas son las q se jotaron en favor de la maldita Prop. 8 asi como sus papis de la muy famosa DGB 8 jotolonNachos!

porq said...

Correccion: digo jotosCoNachos .....

From LA District said...

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Unknown said...

Clausewitz has come.

fuegoenlasangreII said...

JOHN AND YVETTE HUIZAR

3 PROPERTIES FORECLOSED IN CLARK COUNTY NEVADA

PROPERY #1

Address: 8052 Tolbooth St., Enterprise, NV
Parcel No: 176-11-413-031

Current Owner: Bank New York TRS
Recorded Document No. : 2009115:02686
Recorded Date: 1/15/2009
Amount of Unpaid Debt: $ 316,982.29

Huizar Purchase Grant Deed
Recorded Document No : 20060626:04353
Recorded Date: 06/26/2006
Escrow No.: 601576-TA

http://sandgate.co.clark.nv.us/servlet/Assessor?instance=pcl2&parcel=17611413031

fuegoenlasangreII said...

PROPERY #2

Address: 8989 Castledowns St., Enterprise, NV
Parcel No: 176-20-510-028

Current Owner: Bank New York TRS
Recorded Document No. : 20081210:03647
Recorded Date: 12/10/2008
Amount of Unpaid Debt: $ 284,525.00

Huizar Purchase Grant Deed:
Recorded Document No : 20060731:00579
Recorded Date: 07/31/2006
Escrow No.: 01905914-CB

http://sandgate.co.clark.nv.us/servlet/Assessor?instance=pcl2&parcel=17620510028
8:51 AM

fuegoenlasangreII said...

PROPERTY #3

Address: 6728 Donside Ct., Enterprise, NV
Parcel No: 176-11-413-007

Current Owner: ELSINORE L L C
Recorded Document No. : 20090130:04815
Recorded Date: 01/30/2009
Amount of Unpaid Debt: $ 330,437.91

Huizar Purchase Grant Deed:
Recorded Document No : 20060814:04067
Recorded Date: 08/14/2006
Escrow No.: 601827-TA

http://sandgate.co.clark.nv.us/servlet/Assessor?instance=pcl2&parcel=176-11-413-007

WatchOut! said...

So what's up with this info. Are these church properties?

Unknown said...

LOL So much for the Pacheco/Valverde Prosperity Doctrine.

Looks like the Huizar wasn't faithful with his First Fruits. lol

Thats what you get when you only tithe 9.99 percent instead of the full 10% lol

Pay the full 10% or get foreclosed on your "blessings"...

fuegoenlasangreII said...

EDWARD AND REBECCA PACHECO

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1 PROPERTY FORECLOSED IN CLARK COUNTY NV

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Address: 5089 Moberly Ave., Enterprise, NV
Parcel No: 176-12-710-112

Current Owner: AVELO MORTGAGE L L C
Recorded Document No. : 20080904:02927
Recorded Date: 09/04/2008
Amount of Unpaid Debt: $ 304,534.51
Escrow No.: T864595

Pacheco Purchase Grant Deed:
Recorded Document No : 20060724:02817
Recorded Date: 07/24/2006
Escrow No.: 6057086-RAS
http://sandgate.co.clark.nv.us/servlet/Assessor?instance=pcl2&parcel=17612710112

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fuegoenlasangreII said...

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Second and Third FORECLOSURES
Of Edward and Rebecca PACHUECO

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Resolution NO CFD 2008-29
Resolution of Community Facilities District NO> 04-2 (Lakehills Crest) of the county of Riverside ordering that action be brought in SUPERIOR COURT TO FORECLOSURE on certain Real Property for DEFAULT OF PAYMENT OF SPECIAL TAX

http://www.clerkoftheboard.co.riverside.ca.us/agendas/2008/07_29_08/08.01.pdf

Page 22

Assessment#: 140341003-0
16649 Morning Mist Ct
Riverside CA
Dec. 10, 2007 $ 2,585.00
April 10 ,2008 $ 2,585.00
[ Special Taxes Owed ]


Assessnebt #: 140370010-6
16892 Ridge Cliff Dr.
Riverside CA
Dec. 10, 2007 $ 2,585.0 11:16 AM

fuegoenlasangreII said...

wait

add this after DEC 10 2007

April 10 ,2008 $ 2,585.00
[ Special Taxes Owed ]

******* said...

Why was Bro. Daneil Salomon in Palo Alto, CA?

fuegoenlasangreII said...

PACHUECOS FORECLOSED PROPERTIES

Assessment#: 140341003-0
Address: 16649 Morning Mist Ct
Riverside CA
Recording Date: 05/16/2007
Loan Amt: $ 159,000.00
Recording Date: 06/01/2007
Loan Amount: $840,000.00

http://www.fntoc.com/nodcenter/files/RIV_TS_Report_11-24-2008.pdf

page 67

Assessment #: 140370010-6
Address: 16892 Ridge Cliff Dr.
Riverside CA
Recording Date: 11/22/2006
Loan Amt: $ 828,000.00
Recording Date: 11/22/2006
Loan Amount: $ 165,568.00


Assessment #: 176-12-710-112
Address: 5089 Moberly Ave.,
Enterprise, NV
Recorded Date: 07/24/2006
Amount of Unpaid Debt:
$ 304,534.51

PACHUECO’S
FORECLOSURE TOTAL OWED:

$ 2,297,102.51
$ 2,297,102.51
$ 2,297,102.51
$ 2,297,102.51
$ 2,

fuegoenlasangreII said...

Interesting that Pachuecos Local Church owns 50% of Church Property !!!!

http://riverside.asrclkrec.com/acr/OSVitalChekmsg.asp
Click: ACCEPT
Click: I AGREE
Under Grantee/Grantor Box Type: APOSTOLIC ASSEMBLY
Click NEXT 6 times
RECORD 67

Document Number: 2008-0328698 Recording Date: 6/17/2008
Number of Pages: 4 Cost to Buy: $5.00
Add $1.00 for certified copy

polloloco said...

ALERT ALERT ALERT ALERT!!!!

ANOTHER PASTOR IN SOUTH TEXAS DISTRICT HAS LEFT THE ASSEMBLY. APPARENTLY BROTHER VASQUEZ FROM HARLINGEN WAS A GOOD FRIEND WITH EX BISHOP TOVAR AND HAS DECIDED TO JOIN HIM IN HIS NEW MOVEMENT. MY SOURCES DOWN IN SOUTH TEXAS TELL ME THAT TOVAR RESIGNED DUE TO THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED IN ITALY WITH TWO ITALIAN FEMALES. I WONDER WHO IS NEXT IN THAT DISTRICT? NOW YOUNG PEOPLE DONT HAVE NO ONE TO LOOK UP TO, NO WONDER APOSTOLIC YOUTH ARE CHOOSING THE WORLD NOWADAYS! WE HAVE TO PRAY FOR OUR YOUNG PEOPLE HERMANOS!

The_End_is_Near said...

Quote from Apostolic Letters

Now it has come to my attention that one of the original candidates that was wronged by the President and general board that had threatened to leave as been "bought" by the President to become the new vice-president of the new organization that has been set up by the GB to be the leader of the eastern part of the US. Bishop Fortino, you were allowed to be bought. Why was that? I had wondered at first what had happened to you and now it is clear that you drifted away from the issue, and now that I have been told about this deal, I now understand what happened. You ignored all this for a position? I thought God was the one that raises up leaders, did the pastors go in prayer for God's direction to select you? It does not appear to be the case. By accepting this position you allowed a wrong to continue that will affect so many others in the future.
When will all this stop? when will God's people take a stand? when will someone stand up for truth and call things as they are? Where are you Bishops Quiroz?, Bishop Mendoza?, Bishop Rodriguez, Bishop Jauhall, Bishop Arrellano? Bishop Diaz. Bishop Lopez? Bishop Hoyer? Where have all the men of God fled to? are you that frightened about man? Stand up for truth and you will know how quickly people will forgive.
________________________________
Yes Bishop Fortino tell us how many pieces of silver did you sell out for?

Hoyer...LOL General board wannbe..didn't take much silver for him to sell out. He would have done it for a cracker from Sanchez

Unknown said...

Didn't know if you knew that John Huizar is Little Eddie Pachueco's son in law and of course Yvette is his daughter. They both left the Corona church on some bad terms. Know I'm sure you know that he is Pastoring a church there in Corona. Alongside with Ralph Mendes, who once was a minister there in Corona also.

lehan said...

You know what either way if the plaintiffs had lost or won the AA was severely damaged by what the current AA GB has done.

No matter what they do from this point on. The AA has lost its credibility in front of numerous ones doctrines and has lost its credibility in front of many different countries.

So even if though the plaintiffs have lost the mere mention of their names haunts the current GB.

AA Pastors I say to you that as surely as we live and breathe that the Lord has not finished what He has already set in motion.

I hope that every one of us including myself will be prepared to deal with what happens next.

Unknown said...

Hope many of the Pastor's in the a.a. boycott the up and coming congresso pastoral in fot. That, will hopefully let the gbers know that their are many pastors with them.

lehan said...

Well that is true but the event to come will make or break any person's character.
This single event will change the face of the AA from the very moment it happens and it will re-sound throughout AA.
Metaphorically speaking it will be like the shot that was heard around the world.

LL said...

Bloggers, it might be over in the courts but, look how much(members & $$) the aa has lost because of TWO Votes.

To the Californians
Can you guys tell me around how many churches the aa has lost there?

porq said...

Pastors and ministers take heed to what us the lay people, your flock that provide you wool- your salary are saying 2 U for the good of ALL!

BOYCOTT Sammy's Congreso! BOYCOTT any & all future AA unspiritual events that are ONLY planned to generate "mas dinero" though they might be free, they'll PRESSURE you to give, empty your bank
to them so that they can regain their lofty and snotty life-styles b4 this TRAVESTY took place. You NOW have the power that they so MUCH fear. Don't be a walk-on, be BOLD, take courage for you have ALL the backing of the LORD, His truth and
us the people that wait for you to ACT now. Take courage and we'll be
in constant and fervent prayer 4 U

To you- Sam, Dan, Eddie, Artie, Ishmy, Abel, Leo, Vic

You have mess around enuff, played with the Lord's heritage, and have
NOT really deceived us this time boys. It's coming to an END now. Be
prepared to receive the FULL power of the IRS, ICE, and the impatience
& ANGER of your members/supporters!

You have also messed around and dissed some of the most respected,
admired & anointed men of God you
should have protected and covered!

Get ready, get ready, no mas quick and easy, unearned money or respect

Enough! No mo sheets, rats, cheats or shylocks will be TOLERATED by US


You have demanded respect thru fear
and pressure. Now you will discover
the fear of the Lord and His people

Respect and trust have been flushed

Ram Shackle said...

There should be an effort win over the good pastors to the AWA. This would be the ultimate knockout.

Ram Shackle said...

The AWA should not waste time trying to win the unsuccessful pastors. Go for the churches and pastors that finance the AA.

porq said...

Repost: FINALLY signing off 4ever,
I'll now lay low and let God ARISE!

Someone once said - Woe to the nation
that receives her conquerors beating the drums. Woe to the nation that hates oppression in her sleep and accepts it in her awakening. Woe to the nation that raises her voice only behind a coffin and prides itself only in the cemetery. Woe to a nation that does not revolt until her neck is placed on the scaffold(guilotine)!
by kg

Unknown said...

CBG

Crying

Bitch

Gjoto

Anonymous said...

*******,
I heard Pastor Salomon was in Palo Alto for a celebration of yet another church coming to the AWA. They had him as guest speaker to inagurate the beautiful Church building they are now renting. And confriming their alliance with the AWA.

As someone once said "Move over AA, here comes the AWA"!!! and look for more to continue.

lito said...

Hola amiguitos, les habla LITO.
No se si les interesa pero fuentes de informacion del "IRS" dicen que estan investigando pastorados e iglesias que no coinsiden con sus ingresos e ingresos.
Lideres que tienen recidensias de $1,000.000.00 pero sus ingresos no los justifica.... y de pilon manejan mercede benz? de plano usds. quieren competir con la empresa AIG.

Unknown said...

LOL AIG

Apostolic
Insurance
Group


The only church where you can steal from the members tithes and get a new church and a raise for running the church into the ground..

lito said...

usmc, se escucha chistoso el comemtario pero es la realidad. DIOS no es un juego como para hacer dinero. A JESUCRISTO LE COSTO SU SANGRE EN EL CALVARIO COMO PARA ESTAR JUGANDO Y ENGANANDO A FILIGRESES.

SLJ said...
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SLJ said...

True the AA has become the DEN OF THIEVES!!!

MijoTonio said...

USMC:

AIG, did you come up with that on your own. Dumbass Marine. You fit the mold of all asvab flunkies join the Marines.

ohdear said...

Praise the Lord Saints....Thank God for another beautiful morning. Our pastor this past weekend told the congregation that we have left the AA and have joined the AWA. We are here in Bakersfield, CA @ Grace Christian Fellowship. We as a whole stand behind our Pastors decision because it was not something thought of overnight he has been talking to the ministerial staff and to the saints and we have been in prayer that God direct us in the right path and make the right decision. I can say that by the way the saints were talking after the announcement it was all well and we are glad to be moving forward. Personally I grew up in the AA and have lots of good memories the friendships, my mentor, my past pastors, my brother and sisters, camps, conventions and so forth. I can say that I have had my issues with some of the things done in the AA. But this new chapter has opened up and I am grateful...I can also confirm what QueSi wrote that Pastor Salomon was in Palo Alto. God Bless You and Keep You.

SLJ said...

ohdear:
God Bless and I hope the AWA doesn't turn into another AA dictatorship in a few years.
Money and power hunger have brought the AA to its sliding decend downhill.
Uncaring District Bishops that don't give a dime for the condition of the congregations. Their only purpose in life is to please the DGB, and hope that Sanchez throws them a bone.

lito said...

that's right "the truth for once"... corperate for christ churches and denominations. like the song " take the money and run".

Desafortunadamente sigen enganando a paisitas y gente celosas de sus doctrinas que supuestamente salvan.
A la ora de la ofrenda piden $20.00 dlls y que sean americanos, porque tienen el ambre de la codicia. pero.... eso si.... jeucristo la unisidad es la unica manera de salvacion.

befaithful2God said...

Estimado y "carisimo" Pueblo de Dios:

Despues de ver y oir tanta basura de parte de pastores (sin llamado de Dios, sino de hombre convenenciero), despues de ser testigo de tantas injusticias departe de obispos - en especial Obispo Johnny Sanchez. He llegado a la clara conclusion que ninguno de ellos se preocupa por nuestro estado espiritual, ni porque guardemos nuestra salvacion. Tampoco les quita el sueño si seguimos dentro del camino de Dios o no. De eso se ocupan solo los que son verdaderamente HOMBRES DE DIOS.
Se creen muy sabios e inteligentes (no hay mejor ejemplo de esto que Sam Mascareño - lo digo porque me consta). Pero como dice la Palabra de Dios..."no sabes que eres un gusano , desnudo y miserable" delante de los ojos de Dios. Se ponen la capa de juez con una facilidad impresionante...con el mayor descaro abusan del inocente y del que tiene pocas fuerzas, creen levantar manos limpias al cielo; pero las tienen atasacadas de lodo.

Amados Hermanos, yo les invito a que sigan sirviendole a Dios de la mejor manera posible. Yo soy una oveja agradecida con Mi Buen Pastor y Salvado Jesucristo, porque una vez mas me ha dado las fuerzas para levantarme y seguir caminando en su senda - porque prefiero mil veces la senda antigua que marco Jesus a sus discipulos (y a nosotros), que los "shor cuts" que muchos enseñan, predican, y ponen en practica. Quieren llenas las iglesia, aunque sean un chaos delante de Dios. Para ellos lo importante es que entre mayor cantidad de dinero y que sean reconocidos como los pastores de iglesias "mega". Eso no es pastorear, hermanos....eso no le dijo Jesus a Pedro. Lo que le dijo fue: "Me amas?...Pastorea mis ovejas." NO le dijo que se pastoreara el mismo.

Y de otra cosa no me canso de darle gracias a Dios, hermanos....el que yo no este en los zapatos de estos hombres abusivos, delante de Dios.
Acuerdense, hermanos...Dios tambien tiene un "hasta aqui" - oremos los unos por los otros. Y a los necios dejemoslos en las manos del Dios Vivo y Justo. Si quieren saber "algo" de lo que Dios tiene para estos necios, lean Ezequiel capitulo 34.

Nosotros como Pueblo de Dios valemos muchisimo, hermanos...y El que nos compro no puede estar nada contento con todo lo que nos han hecho estos necios.

Dios les bendiga y les guarde siempre.

Being here and there said...

To all Bloggers, that want a change.

Only God will cahnge this.

I say to Brothers Germain Garcia , and Vicente Alvarez, Jr. YOU MUST WRITE A BOOK ON ALL OF YOUR MEMOJOIRS" YOU WILL DEFINATELY BECOME MILLIONARIES LIKE THE "Honrables"

Write it Expose them. What you two"really" know will destroy their
"ants" hill!!!

To porq:

How old are you? Young huh?
Why are you calling out these "scared ex-bishops"
I won" list them. "pero tienen mucho que pagar.

Especially Jauhall. Ask him why?
If Bishop Tovar is in trouble, he really was "smart" to get out.
Who in the World do these "honorables think they are?
Pleassssssssseeeee!
Who do they they are to be judges to him, when The Honorables have "so many sins...."

Believe me every one of them has "their flaws."

The Bible staates "he that does not have sin , let him cast the first stone".

One of the biggest trouble makers and "lsawless" board members were
"some of the Bishops you called out to "Come Forward"

Ask the rest of the Honorables on their
"miseseses".
Ask Jauhall on Sister Margaret in Panama., ask him about San Jose, the Santiago's daugther?
See porq that is why?

Except for Bishop Diaz all the rest "have many skeltons>'
That's why??????
All you have to do is "mention" their names and "out resurrect the skeltons!' Thats why???

Think and think again said...

Being There:
Don't be such a "scared rabbit".
Who are you not to say the truth.
If you and porq want to know the
truth on these "Old Bishops", ask Sanchez he knows very well.
Adam Lopez, flor azulers iniciators of the AA.
Some one wrote "big time " to have the AWA look out for "these contaminated perverts that will go to the AWA conventions and
'CONTAMINATE' Youth, like the Union City Flors did>

And "everyone looks the "other way, and their old time Father still prevails.. The HIPROCRATE!
Quiroz, the leagalist married a "twice divorced woman"
Excuses were "made for him".
But he sure did not make "excuses"
for Sister Maria in his congregation in Houston.

Recall" That is why "they under the
bushel tree. That's why?
"THAT'S WHY?

YOU SURE "BAITED ME?" DIDN'T YOU?
THANKS.....

Think and think again said...

Being There:
Don't be such a "scared rabbit".
Who are you not to say the truth.
If you and porq want to know the
truth on these "Old Bishops", ask Sanchez he knows very well.
Adam Lopez, flor azulers iniciators of the AA.
Some one wrote "big time " to have the AWA look out for "these contaminated perverts that will go to the AWA conventions and
'CONTAMINATE' Youth, like the Union City Flors did>

And "everyone looks the "other way, and their old time Father still prevails.. The HIPROCRATE!
Quiroz, the leagalist married a "twice divorced woman"
Excuses were "made for him".
But he sure did not make "excuses"
for Sister Maria in his congregation in Houston.

Recall" That is why "they under the
bushel tree. That's why?
"THAT'S WHY?

YOU SURE "BAITED ME?" DIDN'T YOU?
THANKS.....

middleoftheroad said...

Porq
You sure are right.
Germain Garcia and Vivcent Alvarez are the answer to our Prayers.

Pacheco blew it and Valverde by firing them..

These two fired ex-employees have
"alot of family"..
NO ONE WANT TO GET IN BAD WITH
EX-BISHOP VICENTE ALVAREZ SR.

He has "no boundaries" , and he will tell all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IF I WERE VALVERDE AND PACHECO AND SANCHEZ-----
WHAT ABOUT WHAT SANCHEZ DID IN TUCSON WITH SISTER GLORIA AND
IN SOLANA BEACH WITH THE ESPINOZA WOMAN?
WHAT ABOUT THAT WENT ON FOR YEARS.
SO WHY ARE THEY SO "LEALISTIC WITH
BISHOP TOWAR!!!!!!

THE "NERVE"...

REPENT....
GALATHIANS 5:1...

If things continue like this all the Alvarez will go AWA:

Bishop Baldemar and Ex-Bishop
Alvarez, have been "old croonies", for a llllllllllloooooooooggggggggggggg
time.
"Blood is thicker that the hardest
wind!!!!!"

On the Honorables"
Humpty Dumpty sat on a Wall,
Humpty Dumpty had a GREAT FALL.

ALL THE KING'S HORSES, ALL THE KING'S MEN CANNOT EVER PUT

Hey, 'THINK' WHAT ABOUT ARRELLANO
"WAS MARRIED TWICE, AND DISOWNED A DAUGHTER"

If you are going to make "lists"
list alL on the TRUTH OF " Your fovorite Bishops," then "List of Your BISHOPS and what they really did!

THEIR SKELETONS OR ELSE "SHUT UP".
HUMPTY DUMPTHY TOGETHER AGAIN...

"THAT FOR YOU PACHECO SAM AND ALL THE "HONORABLES".....

LET ME TELL YOU WHAT'S NEXT! said...

Camindo voy Good comments
March 13 etc.,

With the elections coming up next year.
These guys will have a "lonnnnng"
time to "clear up like the Gestapo
did when the "Yanks are coming"..

But it did dissolved.
Meanwhile back at the farm of Cucamonga it will continue to be "defended" by the "Select Personnell there". No matter
who Pacheco and Valverde and Sand., hire. These "Office Personnell. "WILL BE UNDERGROUND SOURCE!!!
THESE "UNDERGROUND SOURCES ARE OUR HEROS AND OUR ANSWER PRAYERS.



If they hire the "Ochos, they have a long legacy from their Grandpa,from New Mexico.

The only ones they can hire, for"No" betrayal will be "their own families.

But their families are also "through with them"..

The Lord is answering our prayers.

Thank you again and again Brother Vince and Germain....

Publish your book...
You owe IT to 'YOUR CHURCH'!!!


"THE TRUTH WILL PREVAIL"

GOD BLESS YOU.

THANK YOU "JUSTICE WILL PREVAIL".

SLJ said...

Quote:
"WHAT ABOUT WHAT SANCHEZ DID IN TUCSON WITH SISTER GLORIA AND
IN SOLANA BEACH WITH THE ESPINOZA WOMAN?
WHAT ABOUT THAT WENT ON FOR YEARS."
______________________________

I Wonder if the honorable Bishop will publish that in the honorable history of the AA?

LET ME TELL YOU WHAT'S NEXT! said...

When an Organization has been in existence for almost 100 years.

How do we "experts" in the law
think that a Court of Law will go against "any Organization" that "keeps Mexicans and Latin Americans,
"together". FOR 100 YEARS....

Hey no way will the people that "want, desire the AA to disolved by
the court, get "their wish"..

The "Only answer is Prayer".

The plaintiffs, SHOULD HAVE NEVER
ORGANIZED...(PROVE TO THE COURT THAT THEY CAN STAND ALONE AND SURVIVE)...

THE COURT SAW THAT "THEY ARE SURVIVORS," "HAD ORGANIZED AND ALL IS WELL "AT THE WESTERN FRONT"...

SO LET THEY SURVIVE ALONE, WITHOUT THE AA.

IF THE PLAINTIFFS HAD WAITED...AND NOT "ORGANIZED".....

THEN MAYBE THEY WOULD HAVE WON...

ALL THE COURTS WANT TO DO IS KEEP
PEOPLE "TOGETHER" AND OUT OF TROUBLE WITH THE OUTSIDE WORLD.


"THAT IS WHY MASSES OF PEOPLE, ORGANIZED ARE "LABLED CULTS"..

THE "HONORABLES ARE CHAMPS AT "CONTROL, MUNIPULATION, MIND CONTROL......"
ESPECIALLY MONNNNNNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEEEEEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
CONTROL...



SO WHAT DID YOU EXPECT?

YOU PLAINTIFF ARE IN THE "RIGHT" AS FAR AS THE AA MEMBERS ARE CONCERNED....

BUT THE COURT "SAID, KEEP THEM TOGEHTER." THE OTHERS ARE NOW ABLE TO "SURVIVE"..

REMEMBER...ALL OF YOU AS "LONG AS THE "BOARDS" KEEP YOU "PARTYING",

CONVENTIONS, BANQUETS, RETREATS,
TRAVELS, ETCS., AND ETC.,
THE PEOPLE "WILL STAY"...

QUIT THE CONVENTIONS, THE PARTIES, AND THE OUTINGS AND YOU LOSE.

"THE OLD TIMERS WERE "TRAVELERS".
THEY WOULD GO TO A CONVENTION WITHOUT A "PENNY IN THEIR POCKET"....
ACROSS STATES....FROM INTERNATIONAL SOUTH OF THE BORDER.

EVEN IF IT TOOK WHAT "BROTHER ORTEGA AND HIS "NEWLY ACQUIRED BRIDE DID IN 1930. gOD REST THEIR SOULS....THEY WORKED HARD, AND SO ALL THE REST.

THEY WERE TOTALLY AND COMPLETELY
BROKE AND THEY HAD "A SINGING"
STREET RALLY, BROTHER ORTEGA....PLACED HIS
HAT ON THE SIDE OF THE CURB., AND
SANG AND SANG , (HIS STYLE) AND
GOT MONEY TO CONTINUE TO GO TO TULARE'S CONVENTION...

(SEE LA HISTORIA DE LA ASAMBLEA, VOLUME I 1916-1965.

ITS ALL THERE!!

SO VALVERDE KEEP THEM GOING TO "CONVENTINS, RETREATS, BANQUETS., AND YOU WILL KEEP EVERY ONE HAPPY."

THE AWA IS "SURELY GOING ON TO THE PARTIES".. ITS ONLY GOING TO BE "VERY HARD" FOR VALVERDE, PACHECO AND SANAD TO 'KEEP UP WITH THE PARTIES OF THE AWA'S BECAUSE.........

"THE HONORABLES ARE "BURNED OUT"., THEY ARE NOT MAKING "ENOUGH MONEY AT THE CONVENTIONS....THE PROFITS
HAVE BEEN LOW...

NO MATTER IF THE CONVENTIONS ARE IN "FONTANA, LIKE "MO GREEN WITH VIVA LAS VEGAS.."

THE PEOPLE OF THE AA WE ARE "THROUGH GIVING TO THE "HONARABLES"...NO MORE MONEY...

NO MAS DINERO.....NO MAS DINERO.

THE MONEY IS NOW GOING TO THE AWA...

SO "BIG DEAL"...

GOD BLESS OF ALL.

MAY THE LORD ANSWER OUR PRAYERS..
"OUT" HONORABLES...




OH DEAR......
By the way....You in Bakersfield, with Brother Obed Aguilar...or is he UPC?...

Does the Pastor Obed own the church building that you worship in?

Or are you renting?

Is the church going to be in the name of the Pastor and kiddoss?

This is why many AA pastors do not "leave".

They do not want to leave the church properties., and they do not want to "start all over again with The Never ending "Building Fund drive....Like the UPC!!!

May The Lord answer our prayers, and send Ministering Angels..

amen.and amen. THANK YOU LORD.

cbg said...

Gentlemen,
The word is in Arizona that mr. Tafoya is on his way out of the AWA. Someone close to his family told me he is upset because several board members want him out.

She also told me he cut a deal with Sanchez in return for some information he gave the GB of the AA about the AWA.

IAMREAL said...

to: JCinAZ
You are sooo full of Pony Poop...even if its all true, it makes no difference to anyone in the AWA if one of its "fellowshipping Ministers" decides not to fellowship with the AWA. There is nothing wrong with this...this is the whole point to being in the AWA...you are autonomous!! You are incorporated!!! If he no longer wishes to be part of the board, no big deal...There are at least 300 other ministers that can be voted in to the position...Besides, there is NO financial gain...but, there is one if he returns to the AA...Perhaps thats what he is doing??? Anyway, this is all speculation on our parts...You dont know squat...keep your mouth shut about things you dont know about...talk to us about cookies, cakes or something like that...i'm outta here....

IAMREAL

Nacho Libre said...

Grace Christian Fellowship in Bakersfield,Ca. We have nothing to do with Obed Aguilar.It's a church that was always on it's own as the 3rd church here in B-town. We own our own propertie.We are blessed to own 5 Akers!We are also blessed to be renting a 14,000 sq foot building for a very good price until we can build on our Worship Center on our land that is own by our church.

See you at church Sunday bro Ohdear!

God Bless!

Michael said...

Hello Bloggers,
I'm an old time Apostolic dating back to the 60's. I have some questions I'd like to ask to see if anyone has an answer. Back in the 60's and 70's Television and Movie theaters considered a very bad sin. I remember that some people were put on "preva" (I think I spelled it correctly). Anyway, today everyone has TV's and many Apostolics even have home entertainment systems with blue ray DVD plays and watch movies from home. My questions is what is wrong with going to the movie theater (other that it being expensive)?

GOD IS JUSTICE said...

and my question to you is.... arent we duppos to be discussing the 06 elections not what the AA believes? i mean just wondering this Blog is to discuss the frauds the GB has comited not the doctrinal standards of the AA because hm let me tell you back the it was bad for a sister to cut her hair and you go to a church and its rare the one that has long hair and some of the AA churches dnt wear headcovering and they wear jewerly and the sisters wear pants and blah blah blah so whats your answer to that?????

Unknown said...

I have heard from a secret source, that Skotty was able to sneak in a video camera and taped a session of the gb where Sancheeze went into a tantrum.

It will be released in about week. Just checking the legalities.

LET ME TELL YOU WHAT'S NEXT! said...

Siempre ha sido que si la Representacion "HONORABLES"

no quiere a alguien,O ALGUIEN LES ESTORBA, O ALGUIEN SABE MUCHO.....
LO HECHAN.....FUERAAAAAAAA!

Comenzado con el Primer Pastor General, Franciso Llorente, de una manera de 'HACERLO FUERA'

EL HERMANO NAVA QUE NO "HALBABA, SIEMPRE CALLADO "MISTICO"...

CALLADITO, CALLADITO, CALLADITO, CALLADITO, CALLADITO, CALLADITO,

PERO POR DEBAJO, POR DEBAJO...

CALLADIO, Y AFUERA......SIN ME "ESTORBAS" QUE TE VALLAS AL INFIERNO....NO LES IMPORTABA......

ODIO, ODIO, ODIO DE LO MAS PROFUNO ODIO, ES LO QUE SE "SIENTE DE ESTOS "HONORABLES".!!!!!!!

ASI COMO UN PERFUME SE SIENTE.

ASI SE SIENTE EL ODIO QUE NOS TIENEN.....
POBRESITOS PORQUE ESTAN PERDIENDO SU TIEMPO....AL PURO INFIERNO VAN A IR....SE!


EN ESE TIEMPO, COMO AHORA,
ERA DE LEVANTARLE "UN FALSO" AL PASTOR GENERAL FRANCISO LLORENTE, DIOS LE TENGA EN PAZ...

LO ACUSARON DE QUE NO---
"QUE NO EVANGELIZABA SUFICIENTE, Y PORQUE NO TENIA ZAPATOS DE VARON, Y TUBO QUE USAR LOS ZAPATOS DE SU ESPOSA. POR LA POBREZA QUE HABIA EN TODO ESTE PAIZ..

HABIA MUCHOS QUE SI LES LEVANTABAN FALSOS, POR "DARSE CONOCIMIENTO" Y POR PONESE "UNA PLUMA" EN SUS SOMBREOS.....


Y si HABIA MUCHOS QUE LO HICIERON, DE DAR "ACUSAZONES CUANDO EL PASTOR LUPE LARA, Y FRANCISO LLORENTE..

NOMAS POR QUEDAR BIEN CON "EL QUE" NAVA....HABIA DE QUEDAR EN "CONTROL"

Asi paso con El Pastor Lupe Lara.
El era un organizador, y se puede
ver en el Libro Volume I de La Historia de La Asamblea Apostolica, 1916-1966.

Que en las
fotos de ese "TIEMPO" El Pastor Lupe Lara y su esposa estan alli en la Foto, con una de los Coros de
ese tiempo.

Al Hermano Lupe Lara, Dios lo tenga en paz, se le levanto un "falso, de que lo habia visto "borracho", por tres miembros de La Iglesia que el pastoreaba aqui en Los Angeles por la Calle Wall.

Estas tres personas que acusaron al Hermano Pastor Lupe Lara.

no se puede mencionar sus nombres, porque ERAN de tres familias muy conocidas y MALAS Y MUY "poderosas," En la Asamblea.

Y lo triste es que el Pastor Lara, fue removiedo, por el Pastor Antonio Nava, PORQUE RECIBIO LA ACUSACION .

LUEGO EL HERMANO NAVA QUE RECIBIO.. la acusacion......asumio la congregacon de el Hermano Lupe Lara, de esos anos, aqui en Los Angeles.

Ya le habian hecho el otro tipo de "acusacion" al Pastor General Franciso Llorente. Y tambien el Pastor Antonio Nava assumio en ese entonces La Presidencia por 30 largos anos "Sin Permitir" elecciones.

Ahora esta "Representacion" usando
EL mismo estilo...Le iban hacer "juicio al Pastor Obispo David Tobar.

Yo no digo "que hay culpa o no hay culpa." Pero el Hermano Pastor Obispo Tovar fue muy intelligente, y se salio antes de que "Lo crucificaren!
"HOMBRES CON MANOS MUYYYYYY SUCIAS"


Que si a unos de estos "Honorables" se les hiciera una "acusacion"

los otros lo "taparan" se callaran, y hechaban "fuera" los que se "atrevieran de hacer esa acusacion".
(CONTRA EL UNGIDO DE DIOS)

PARA ESO SI "ELLOS SI SON "UNGIDOS"

Yo digo o pregunto: Porque de despues de 5 anos de que el PASTOR OBISPO DAVID TOVAR estubo en Italia SE LE IBA A HACER JUICIO?

Porque se siente "TAN" 'SANTIFICADO Y JUSTO, QUE Valverde, cuando a el tambien se le ve como se porta con las mujeres de su Iglesia.

Especial mente con la Hermana Mary. Porque tambien con la Ochoa que es su secretaria. Porque tambien con la que canta en El Praise Team, (Groupo de Alabanza) la que usa la "tallas" tan apretadas.

Porque a Pacheco "no" se le "hizo jucio" cuando "tomo parte" en tanto robo de la ventas de "carros" con Bernice Molina de Tucson, Arizona.

Porque no se le "hizo jucio a Abel Aguilar cuando tubo que dejar la Iglesia en San Jose, cuando se le acuso con la Joven Perez?

Porque a Martin del Campo no se le hace "jucio" cuando toma tanto tiempo coon "su prima" la secretaria?

Porque no se le hace juico al Pastor Daniel Sanchez, cuando deja que su hermano Eliseo siga de Pastor, cuando hizo tanto mal en Houston, Texas. Usando a su misma Esposaa como esclava?

Porque no se le hace Juicio a Adan Lopez, porque deja a sus hijos, arruinar a tanto joven varon. Y se le sigue dando "LA OPORTUNIDAD DE HACER MAS Y MAS DINERO"
EN THE "END TIMES" (TIEMPO FINAL), que solo lo solo por HACER MAS Y MAS DINERO....LO HACE ANO TRAS ANOS?

Y QUE AUN Juan Fortino lo mandan "traer desde Miami, Florida, a predicar, con etos corruptos, danadores de jovenes varones.

Porque Fortin porque? Unos si y otros no?????????

PORQUE JUAN FORTINO.? PORQUE?
ANDAN CON LOS DE LA "FLORERSAZULER" COMO SE DICEN
ELLOS MISMO?
PORQUE/ PORQUE JUAN FORTINO ES ARGENTINO....POR ESO??????

WOW!

Felicitamos al hermano Pastor Obispo Tovar, porque no se dejo
"INJUCIAR POR HOMBRES CON MANOS SUCIAS"

Yo no digo que no es verdad, de la acusacion, o si es mentira>
Pero si digo que puedo decir, "que los que injuciaron a el Pastor Guadalupe Lara ellos todos sufieron con "ALCOLISMO EN SUS FAMILIARES"

ESTA FUE LA MALDICION QUE RECIBIERON.

Ahora que todos los dias vemos la foto de Richardo Maffey. Me da lastima, porque todos lo Maffey, sufrien de un "Baja propia estima"
ESPECIALMENTE "SERGIO, QUE TIENE UN CORAZON AMARGO, Y TAMBIEN ES MUY PELIONERO.....
SE PELEA TANTO CON SU "POBRE ESPOSA DEBBIE, Y TAMBIEN LEROPARDO.

y lo esconden con su "arrogantes, como la Mama de Ellos Esther Avalos Maffey...

Pero ahora que triste. Dios libre..
Pero asi van ha estar, "Todos lo Honorables" porque "JUGARON IGLESITAS"

se han reido y burlado de la obra de Dios y de Ustedes Pastores. Que son 'TAN INNOCENTES' Y SIEMPRE BUSCAN LA PAZ, Y TODOS SUS DINEROS LES DAN USTEDES A "LOS HONORAB LES' Y LA FLOR AZUL, CON GEORGINA, QUE TODO ESE DINERO SE VA A LOS SUELDOS. ALTOS QUE RECIBEN POR MES..

MANDELEN A LOS MISSIONERO DIRECTAMENTE...AYUDE DE ESA MANERA , MAS SEGURO.

PORQUE ELLOS SE LO TRAGAN...

PROGUNTE A EL HERMANO GERMAIN GARCIA, Y A EL HERMANO VICENTE ALVAREZ JR.!!!!

ABRAN SUS OJOS Y YA DEJEN DE DARLES, DINERO, Y MAS DINERO, Y MAS DINERO--------------------

NO MAS!!!!!!!!!
SINO USTED TAMBIEN ESTA CONTRIBULLENDO A LA DELIQUENCIA DE TODOS ELLOS...

TENEGAN MISERICORDIA DE USTEDES MISMOS. "DEFIENDA SUS IGLESIAS"..

JUNTENSE Y NO PERMITAN QUE EN LAS ELECCIONES DE 2010, SE PERMITA LA "DESCALIFICADORA" QUE SE "CONTRATE UNA AGENCIA, NUTRAL, PARA QUE ADMINISTRE LAS ELECCIONES.


HAGALO DE DESDE AHORA. BUSQUE ESA INFORMACION....AHORA MISMO!!!!!

1
SINO NOMAS CAMBIARAN DE "SILLAS MUSICALES" (MUSICAL CHAIRS) Y SEGUIRAN LOS MESMOOOOOOOOO LOS "MESMOOOOOOOOOO"
2
NO SE DEJAN MINIPULAR.
SI TODOS ORAMOS AL SENOR, NUESTRO GRAN DIOS...EL NOS ESCUCHARA!
3
SEA UN CALEB, UN GEDEON.
4
DE QUE LE SIRVE ESTAR PREDICANDO TODOS LOS DOMINGOS....SIN NO TIENE
"CONSIENCIA" DE LO SUCEDIDO.

5 DE que le sirve estar predicando que Cristo viene, y de EL AMOR, Y QUE SIN AMOR NO VA HA IR AL CIELO"


6
ESTA

NOMAS PERDIENDO SU TIEMPO, SI NO RECLAMA SUS DERECHOS...

7
DE QUE SE "HAGA JUSTICIA" Y QUE NO SIGA ESTE ROBO DE DINERO.

8
QUIEN LE DIO LA AUTORIDAD A NAPOLEON Y A VALVERDE DE "DESUCUPAR A LOS HERMANOS GERMAIN GARCIA Y A VICENTE ALVAREZ JR?
QUIENEEEEEENNENENNENEN?????????
QUIEN LES DA ESA AUTORIDAD, A ESOS MALVADOS,

SI "NADA MAS" CON 2 VOTOS ESTAN EN LOS "PUESTOS QUE CONTROLAN Y GANAN TANTISIMO DINERO?

QUIEN LOS DEJAN HACER LO QUE QUIERAN?

QUIEN LOS DEJA?

USTED LOS DEJA....USTED LOS DEJA!!!
CON QUEDARSE MUDO!!!!!!


"DEFIENDA SU IGLESIA......."

SEA VALIENTE...

O SINO LA MISMA MALDICION DE QUE LOS ACUSADORES CONTRA EL PASTOR LUPE LARA, Y FRANCISO LLORENTE LE PASARA A USTED Y A LOS SUYOS.

DIOS VEN PRONTO!
AMEN.

ORE MAS Y MAS "

"CRISTO RESPONDE AL ALMA HERIDA.
"CRISTO RESPONDE A LA ORACION...
EL SALVA AL ALMA, Y TAMBIEN SANA...O ALELUYA DE GLORIA A DIOS."

UN CANTO DE CONSUELO Y ANIMO PARA USTEDES:


FIEL SIERVO SIGUE, SIGUE ADELANTE DE TRUINFO EN TRUINFO POR TU SENOR.

SIGUE ADELANTE Y NO DESMALLES QUE ALLA TE ESPERA TU SALVADOR.

SIGUE ADELANTE. SIGUE ADELANTE, DE TRIUNFO, EN TRIUNFO POR TU SENOR...
SIGUE ADELANTE, SIGUE ADELANTE
Y NO DESMALLES QUE ALLA TE ESPERA TU SALVADOR.

DIOS LES BENDIGA:

Michael said...

GOD IS JUSTICE

Thanks for your response. I think this blog has been used for other discussions other than discussing the 2006 elections and wanted to put this doctrinal topic out for discussion.

You bring up good points about “it was bad for a sister to cut her hair, the head covering, jewelry, and pants.”

I was going to bring up about pants later, but didn’t think of the hair and jewelry.

Would anyone like to comment about my topic and “God is Justice’s” topics?

Thanks.

-----------------------------
LET ME TELL YOU WHAT'S NEXT
¿Puede usted comentar por favor en Inglés? La razón es que algunos bloggers no pueden leer en Españoles pero pueden beneficiar de sus comentarios.

Gracias

ohdear said...

Praise the Lord Saints!!! Nacho Libre whats going on? LMTYWN, did you read Nacho Libre's comments...
I can say Amen to what he wrote....
Regarding all these other issues that have nothing to do with salvation....We have spent so much time arguing over non esstenials that we drive people away from salvation..is salvation that hard to attain...I think not but thats what I think...the standards that I was taught the velo, no pants, no TV.....come on I think when you become a mature christian you tend not to let those things bother you..what do those things have to do with salvation...not one thing..
and before you correct me come with some Biblical back up..not the same old thing I have been hearing...cause lately it has not been practice what you preach....what about the internet....in what time were the Corinthians living in when he wrote about the velo...read the whole chapter look at history..not just a few chapters....about the ring some say it is vain...come on and I see pastor in these expensive suits, watches...and they want to talk about vanity...
los pantalones...I ask has anyone ever cared to look up the hisotry of the pants....thats it just look em up...Man made rules are not for the church..I will follow the Bible and what it teaches the rules it lays down for me...but man made rules come on..for my benefit...no I think more for their benefit...One thing that the Lord has impressed in my heart lately is UNITY...as christian believers...think about it UNITY!!!
Imagine how much we could accomplish if we would just unite.

GOD IS JUSTICE said...

my Point of view on this standards (PANTS, JEWERLY, MAKE UP, HAIR, VELO)is ok true this things by them selves are not gonna take you to hell but the bible says "Hay de aquel se save hacer lo bueno y no lo hace" its not the fact of the Veil and haird and pants its the fact that all these things are in the bible and once you are told and they explaine to you what they mean and why then it become to obidience its like God gave us this standards to live and by not following them we are desobing God i dont know that how i explain to my young people why we SHOULD follow this standards. Now thats my point Im not saying its right because it might not be i come from a very liberal denomination which is the Assemblies of God and when they explained to me all this stuff i researched it my self and came to the understanding that yes we have to follow them BUT we need to becareful and not become extremists! like a preaching from brother Juan Campos said not to much to the Left or to the Right or up or down but just in the middle to the Target which is Jesus Christ!!!!

SLJ said...

Suspects leave trail of cash during freeway chase!!!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090320/ap_on_re_us/trail_of_cash
_________________________________
Rumors say that members of the DGB were out in the middle of the freeway trying to cash in.

LET ME TELL YOU WHAT'S NEXT! said...

Ladies Try attending church services at theAA churches, oreven down town etc., even to a car wash, or whatsoever with the 3 P's design and see what
you will get from the "self-righteous" HOLIER THAN THOU11111


Look how they have had their wives all these years.....

Looking worse antiquated THEN the "Little House in the Prairre episodes ..BECAME OLD BEFORE THEIR TIME....

- While the woman izers go around in the "wanna be modern fashions.

I do not see them dressed like the Disciples with tunics robes and sandels !!!

For Ohdear!

True..... none of this helps with "Salvation" but what Iam "trying" to tell you is that "the Honorables are so eager to "MAKE" judgements...condemn, especially
Pacheco, Valverde and Aguilar,mA, saND., when they too have "their accusations very available.

Iam giving you this information, so in case you too are in- justicely "framed" or lied about.

Tell them que ellos tambien tienen "cola que les pisen". They also have a long tail that can be stepped on....long story of "womanizing."

Why should THEY go around believing accusations, and also "having trials, " when they selves "cover up their garbage.

Who gives the "right to Valverde, Pacheco to hire and fire....
Who fires them......
God certainly will FIRE all of them
very soon..

Just look back in history to all those that accused and "tried injusticely they are all "old and dicrepted Gone!! and their curse continues with their families...

God save them. May they repent before it is too late....

___________________

Ohdear said:

When you were talking about Bakersfield I thought you were talking about Duarte...He is one of those "middle of the Road"

Calls Brother Baldemar every day.

And calls Sanchez right after to tell Valverde, Pacheco what Bishop Baldemar said.

There are so of those, like Herman Garza from Down in Texas, and also
the Arellanos...

All spies......

Who is the Pastor of this "Grace Fellowship. He apparently, from what you said , did not have your church property in the AA corporation name....
So that was easy....

He lost nothing...but what happens when he realizes there are things at the AWA that also have to looked out for.....

But I guess anything is better then these "screamers and dictators. God save us.

Think and think again said...

LLEGO LA MAFIA A SUR TEXAS.

LOS TRES CHOLOS DE TIJUANA.
VALVERDE, PACHECO Y PRADO.

ES UNA VERGUENZA Y UN DESCARO QUE
ESTOS "MANOS SUCICIAS" SON LOS QUE
MANJEAN LA OBRA DE DIOS.

USTEDES OBISPOS, PASTORES, Y ANCIANOS Y TODO MIEMBRA QUEPUEDA

MANDENLE "FILICITACONES" AL EX-OBISPO DAVID TOVER, POR NO HABERSE DEJADO EN QUE LOS MAFIOSOS
LO ENJUICIARAN!

NO TIENE NINGUNA VERGUENZA PACHECO, QUE AL EL QUIEN LE HIZO JUICIO CUANDO LE "ROBO" TANTO DINERO EN ESA VENTA DE CARROS, Y EN LUGAR DE INJUICIARLO LO SALVARNON CON MANDARLO PARA CHILI COMO MISSIONERO.!!!

QUE VERGUENZA, Y VALVERDE CON LA HERMANA "MARY" DE SU IGLESIA, COMO A ESE NO LE HACEN JUICIO.

Y A PRADO CON TODO EL DINERO QUE PIDE PARA NAVA'S FOUNDATION...Y SE ROBA TODO EL DINERO.
Y LE QUITO EL CARRO A LA FAMILIA RODIRUGEZ, CASTORENA, DESPUES QUE MURIO EL HERMANO CASTORENA.

NO TUBO VERGUENZA "ROBARLES" EL CARRO PORQUE NO QUIERA SEGUIR DANDO LOS PAGOS.

PURA PURA PURA PURA MAFIA!!!!!!

Y USTEDES SIGUIEN Y SIGUIEN Y SIGUIEN DANDOLES MAS Y MAS Y MAS Y MAS DINEROSSSSSSSS!!!

PARA QUE ELLOS ANDEN EN LOS AVIONES, COMO MILLIONARIOS, Y USTED CON "DOUBLE" EMPLEYOS, PARA
SEGUIR DANDO LES MAS Y MAS DINEROOOOOOOSSSSSSS!!

QUE DIOS TENGA MISERICORDIA DE NOSOTROS.
Y SAQUE A ESTOS MAFIOSOS!!!!

SI USTED SE ACERCA A ELLOS, LE
PUEDE "OLER" LA MAFIA....

VAN A PONER UNO DE "SUS AMIGOS DE AQUI DE CALIFORNIA DE SEGURO DE OBISPO Y TAMBIEN "UNO MAFIOSOS COMO ELLOS DE SUS "PANDILLA".

TENIA QUE VENIR PACHECO, Y VALVERDE, ELLOS FORMULAN TODO!!!
Y EL MANDILON MANDADERO DE PRADO, PUES TAMBIEN...

DIOS MIO A LO QUE HA LLEGO LA ASAMBLEA APOSTOLICA DE LA FE EN CRISOTO JESUS...

A LO QUE HEMOS LLEGADO..
Y SOLO POR QUE "NO ESTAMOS UNIDOS, NI TENEMOS "VOZ NI VOTO"!!!!!!!

Think and think again said...

THE MAFIA HAS ARRIVED TO SOUTH TEXAS.

THE 'HONORABLES' WITH"CLEAN" HANDS.,
HAVE ARRIVED, ACCORDING TO GOOD SOURCES, TO BRING IN A NEW BISHOP AND A NEW PASTOR WHERE EX-BISHOP DAVID TOVAR WAS BISHOP AND PASTOR.

THAT'S WHAT THEY GET FOR HAVING "ONE MAN WITH TWO POSITIONS"..
NOW THEY HAVE TWO VACANCIES.....

IF YOU GET NEAR PACHECO, VALVERDE AND THEIR "GO FOR BUDDY" PRADO, YOU WILL "SMELL THEIR SCENT OF "MAFIA"......

THEY WALK IT , TALK IT AND LOOK IT....PURA MAFIA......

EVERYONE SHOULD SENT CONGRATULATIONS NOTICE TO EX-BISHOP TOVAR, THAT HE DID NOT "GIVE THE "HONORABLES" THE "CHANCA", TO HAVE THEM "JUDGE HIM"...

AFTER ALL WHAT PACHECO DID WITH THE CAR SCAM, AND VALVERDE WITH "SISTER MARY" AND PRADO WITH NO MERCY "TOOK THE CAR AWAY FROM THE CASTORENA FAMILY, AFTER BISHOP CASTORENA PASSED ON TO BE WITH THE LORD....
PRADO HAS NO SHAME....

WHO "JUDGES THEM" WHO GIVES THEM A "CARPET CALL"... THEY GET AWAY WITH ALL...

IT IS INCREDIBLE WHAT THE APOSTOLIC ASSEMBLY OF THE FAITH IN CHRIST JESUS HAS COME TO...

BUT ITS ALL "OUR" FAULT....
BECAUSE WE ARE ALL COWARDS, NOT TO STAND UP TO THEM...
WE ARE "NOT UNITED...WE HAVE NO VOTE NOR VOICE!!!!!

MAY THE LORD HAVE MERCY ON US!!!!!!

WE ALLOW THESE TIJUANA CHOLOS TO RUN EVERYTHING..............

EVEN THE BIBLE STATES:
"DO NOT GIVE YOUR PEARLS TO THE SWINE".....

PLEASE KEEP ON PRAYING!!!!!

IAMREAL said...

CBG....sticks and stones...ah heck, you know the rest....you are a fool to use the language that you do....the truth bothers you doesn't it?....hahahahaha...i am laughing at you....any good cookie recipes for us?....i'm waiting......

IAMREAL

corpsman said...

I believe that everyone should and will be held accountable for their actions. But it worries me when I see us wanting to be the harolds of bad news. Let the media and the people run the guilty through the well deserved mud, but far be it from us to run our own through the mud. We all know someone that has fallen and failed in one area or another, we should pray that this never happens to us or to our children, that God spare us the reproach and the shame that would hit our families if such a thing would ever happen. It is never good thing when a person falls into the hands of the enemy. Look at king saul, by the time the enemy got done with saul, he was hanging decapitated on a wall. I feel the frustration and the anxiety of these blogs, but my word to Richard M. is this " you will pay the consequences for your sin, but dont ever believe for one minute that God wants you to die lost. The corpsmans job on the battlefield is to stop the bleeding, save the life, save whatever is left of a man after the devastation.

elias said...

mucha paz de Cristo
amen brother,
in Gods army we not accuse judge or laugh about fallen soldiers
but we keep on guard on the attacks from the enemy,

Seems like astarot had given more bubble gum to chew to the spirits in this blog,
but there still people of God around, to figth this thouthgs
captiving minds in obidience to God
el Espiritu de Dios:
no acusa, ni expone, ni se burla
i think we have to evangelize each other again,
to return to God principles,

El que crea que esta firme(is on the edge)mire que no caiga

polloloco said...

PAZ DE CRISTO! JUST RECEIVED NEWS FROM MY SOUTH TEXAS SOURCES. THE BOARD WAS THERE YESTERDAY EXCEPT PRESIDENT SANCHEZ TO APPOINT A NEW BISHOP. PASTOR ARCADIO PENA FROM MCALLEN WAS ELECTED BISHOP. ALSO THERE IS A NEW TREASURER FROM EDINBURGH, TX ALFREDO HERRERA. THE NEW BISHOP FOR SOUTH TEXAS IS A LOCAL HERMANO WHO HAS BEEN BISHOP IN THE PAST. ACCORDING TO MY SOURCES DOWN IN SOUTH TX EX BISHOP TOVAR HAS ALREADY TWO NEW OBRAS AND APPARENTLY STARTED THEM BEFORE RESIGNING, SO SEEMS HE HAD IT WELL PLANNED, KIND OF CLEVER ON HIS PART. I DONT KNOW THE DETAILS OF WHAT HAPPENED WITH TOVAR IN ITALY, BUT BASICALLY TOVAR WAS HAVING AN INTIMATE RELATIONSHIP WITH A MARRIED ITALIAN SISTER WHO ENDED UP DIVORCING HER HUSBAND WITH HOPES TOVAR WOULD DO THE SAME. PERHAPS SHE GOT UPSET THAT TOVAR DIDNT DO IT AND THUS ALL OF THE SUDDEN MAKES AN OUTCRY ABOUT THEIR RELATIONSHIP. ANYHOW, I THINK TOVAR DOES NOT DENIES IT, BECAUSE HE DECIDED TO RESIGN BEFORE BEEN "ENJUICIDADO", PERO EL QUE ESTE LIBRE DE TODO PECADO QUE ARROJE LA PRIMERA PIEDRA AND I WONDER WHO IN THE GB OR ANY OF US CAN DO THAT. DIOS LES BENDIGA.

The_End_is_Near said...

Quote:
" PERO EL QUE ESTE LIBRE DE TODO PECADO QUE ARROJE LA PRIMERA PIEDRA"

So what you saying is that if anyone here is a sinner even of anything small, like stealing a piece of candy. He shouldn't throw stones at the pervert.So its ok that he stuck his penis into a married woman, because we are sinners our selves.
Goes to show you why the AA is in the mess we're in right now.
Little pervert should have had a train dumped on his behind.
And the Dishonorable General Board? What can they Do?
Why didn't Sancho go?
Is it because most of them have had their heads stuck up where it shouldn't be either. Nope I wasn't talking about the head they think with.
I'm sorry about the words I used but I am a sinner 2.
But enough is enough, perverts have no place on the board of the AA. Let alone the Pastorship.

lito said...

Hola mis hermanos, por dondequiera se les escucha sus quejas y
malestares concerniendo su "AA".

Hay una gran molestia entre el 90% de los filigreces "AA" y "IAFCJ", incluyendo pastores,ancianos,obispos. El principal problema no son los filigreces,(pueblo, hermanos)sino la cabeza (gb), que manipula sus propios intereces personales. Y la razon por la cual ellos actuan como actuan, es por que hay dos armas muy poderozas que por el momento ellos utilizan, y que usdes. mismos (filigreces) se las dan. Las armas son DINERO ($$$) y PODER.
El DINERO, ($) es algo de mucho poder adquesitivo (to athquire), pues eso es algo real y facil de entender.
El PODER, eso no es REAL, pues es algo imaginario. UDES. son los que les dan el poder. Los "gb" tienen poder "imaginario". La autoridad que ellos supuestamente ejercen es un mito (lies) pues no esta respaldada en bases de la ignorancia y falta de educasion teologica y secular. En primer lugar, de los 8 del "GB", la mayoria (4 de ellos)son de la famosa TIJUANA, excepto (1) que es de D.F. mexico (chilango).Los otros son pochillos de baja educasion secular, inclusive la misma iglesia les ayudo a pulirce un poco con la sociedad.
Imaginence pues, que lacra de jefes tienen ante usds. Con ese retrato, es muy facil de entender el porque hacen lo que hacen con la pobre gente. Subeleban gente que no se les pueda subir a los hombros (go up the ladder, faster than they can)y haci tener a todos la paisanada(gente,hermanos) bien controladitos para ellos gozarla muy bien.

Little Eddie said...

Malverde on his way to TJ

http://www.bfcollection.net/cities/mexico/On%20my%20way%20to%20Tijuana.jpg

LET ME TELL YOU WHAT'S NEXT! said...

More than ever we should look into the Pastors' that hide behind the "consecreation" mask and stay behind the "golf game" live or die, just so they can "have "relaxation" instead of "having "relaxation in prayer and studying the word of God.

The Problem with the Majority of the "honorables" and the Obispos, Pastors is that they "have never really received the Holy Spirit" as the Spirit of the Lord gives them utterance.....

You can "feel" it as you get near them and "feel it" when you hear them "try to preach" that they are not definately "Holy Ghost filled."

That the bottom line, of why the Apostolic Assembly of the Faith in Christ Jesus Incorporated is in the fix we are in..

And also the AWA they are also not "Spirit Filled" other wise they would have never "sued"...

A Spirit Filled, Holy Ghost Filled, God powered filled Person would have never "cheated in elections...."

The Bible States, "that the Brethren preserviered in Prayer and Fasting, and the Lord added to the Church those that were to be saved."

These "Worldly men , The "Honorables" that we have running the AA do not and have never "received the Holy Spirit."

The bible states, "By "THEIR FRUITS"
YOU SHALL KNOW THEM..."

What "fruits" do we see in These "Honorables"?

That is why I must come to these conclusions.......

A "Spirit filled" Holy Spirit Person does not need to plegarize the sermons of Bishop T.D. Jakes...

Or others....

The Disciples were so "full of the Holy Spirit" they spoke for hours on God's love, grace and Escathology.

The reason it was so "easy" for Ex-Bishop Tovar to exit. was because he was so engrossed in the G.12 movement that all was prepared for him...

Those "reencuentros" that Martin De Forest introduced to the AA, are anti-Bibilical.

They bring out all the "done away"
sins and "recreate their days of prositution, drunkness, drugs, robberies,battered and sexully abused women, etc., and God clearly states in the Word of God, that our sins were paid at Calvary, and if we have repented and were Baptized in his name as Acts 2:38., an act of obedience...THEN WHY bring in the "buried sins, to dramatize the long "forgotten" sins by the Lord.

The AA is in a "HUGE hurry" to bring "new people" to church "come as you are", as in Valverde's Church.

To bring in more "DINERO'

IT IS VERY SAD TO SEE, THE WONDERFUL COVENENT OF REPENTENCE AND BAPTISIUM, A SOLEMN ACT OF OBEDIENCE TO THE LORD BUT IT SO MINIMIZED, JUST SO THE AA CAN "BEAT LA IGLESIA DE MEXICO AND THE NOW NEWLY FORMED AWA!!!!!

SURE ITS GREAT TO EVANGELIZE...ITS MANDATED BY THE LORD, BUT TO CHEAPENED IT AS "AS A "CHEAP GOSPEL" WILL BE THE HEAVY PRICED PAID BY THOSE "RACKING IN THE MONEY" AS SOUL WINNING.

THE SOULS COST THE GREAT SACREFICE AT CALVARY...AND THE PRICE TO BE PAID BY THOSE PASTORS THAT CHEAPENED IT FOR "THEIR CONVENIENCE" WILL PAID TO THEM DEARLY....

THE RESPECT FOR THE WORD OF GOD AND FOR "OTHERS" IS DONE AWAY WITH.....


MAY THE LORD HAVE MERCY ON US.

Think and think again said...

Polloloco:

Es increible leer que "Los Honorables" que fueron a Sur Texas, no pusieron uno de Los de Ellos "SUS COMPRADES" MERCIDOS-- como Obispo para remplacar al Ex-Obisopo Tover.


Que Paso con uno de Sus Familiares, o comprades. Si Aguilar no tiene mas hijos que
darles Iglesias ya formadas.????..

O pero que el hijo de Prado?
O de Valverde?

La verdad es que Los Honorables estan confiados en que cuando quieren Los cambian.......

Ahora para la Iglesia que quedo vacanta..

Esto es lo que pasa cuando el Obispo tiene 'DOS PUESTOS" A LA MISMA VEZ...1. OBISPO Y 2. PASTOR...

TODO CONFUNDIDO.


TODO LOS "HONRABLES" TIENE IGLESIAS, Y SOLO VAN "LOS DOMINGEROS"

Y LUEGO TIENEN "OTRO GRANDE" SALARIO DE LA MESA DIRECTIVA...

SOLO ELLOS" LOS HONORABLES, PUEDE HACER LO QUE LES DAN SU MUCHA GANA!!!!!!!


AHORA SI VAMOS A VER QUE "LOS HONORABLES VAN A TRER UN DE SUS FAMILIARIES PARA PASTOR EN LA IGLESIA QUE TENIA EL EX-OBISPO TOVAR....

TAL VEZ MAFFEY VA A TRAER A SU HERMANO RICARDO O A SERGIO EL "MALO" QUE DA TANTOS PROBLEMAS AQUI EN EL DISTRICO INTERIOR DE CALIFORNIA...


VAMOS A VER A QUIEN SIN MERECERLO LE VAN A "DAR LA IGLESIA" QUE NO LE CONSTO A SUS "ACES" NADA.....

Y AL QUE SI LE COSTO Y TRABAJO MUCHO COMO ASISTENTE PASTOR OH DIACONO ORDENADO "QUE SE VALLA" A LA "LOMA...."

LOS HONORABLES VAN A PONER DE PASTOR AL QUE ELLOS "LE DEBEN FAVORES".....

LE DEBEN "FAVORRES" A USTEDES????

DIOS TENGA MISERICORDIA DE NOSOTROS...

Y DEL SUR DE TEXAS QUE COSTO LA "SANGRE EN EL CALVARIO..."!!!!!

middleoftheroad said...

Well what do you know??????
Pastor S.M.from the San Diego area, willl again sponsor ,hosted by one of them..VAMP..

TYPICAL REPROBATE....
Liz Ramos, will have the Union Florazulers back in his church in May 2009!!!

Can you believe it? after all his apologies and defensive mechanisums., THE SO CALLED PASTOR SAM. is back at his "obession" cannot stay away from
the florzuers....

UNBELIVEABLE!!!!!!!

SURE IS AN "OLD DOG, FOR "OLD TRICKS.

AFTER ALL THE CRIME THE UNIONS CITERS DID TO "HARM" SO MUCH OF OUR YOUNG MEN...RUINED FOR LIFE....WHOSE ROOTS ARE APOSTOLIC ASSEMBLY

AND TO HAVE
CONTAMINATED SOOOOO MUCH YOUNG BOYS.
PASTOR SAM IS BACK AT HIS OLD TRICKS..

AND ALSO ARTHUR DIAZ FROM FLC
WILL HOST THE "FLORERAZULER MAY 1.---ONE OF THEM TOOOO??????...

WOW NO WONDER WE ARE IN THE MESS
WE ARE IN.......

THESE HOODS GET AWAY WITH MURDER!!!!
THE LORD "REBUKE THEM"....

THESE PASTOR SAM AND DIA MUST BE "DEVELOPMENTALLY DELAYED AND "TINTED....."""

WHAT A SHAMEFUL EXAMPLE TO THE YOUTH AND THOSE THAT WERE SO HORRIBLY "TINTED".....

PEOPLE PLEASE COME FORWARD.....

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH

AWA PLEASE BE ON THE "LOOKOUT" FOR THESE LEACHERS!!!!!
GUARD YOUR YOUTH AT YOUR CAMP MEETING, YOUTH CAMPS., AND CONVENTIONS....

PASTOR SAM IS ON THE LOOSE WITH THE FLORERSSSSSS!!!!!AGAIN....

NO APOLOGIZE NEEDED...

ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS!!!

OH MY GOD HAVE MERCY....

WatchOut! said...

ARCADIO PENA? Hasn't he been supportive of the Plaintiff's all along?

Unknown said...

Middleoftheroad:

What on heaven's earth are you talking about? Can you please put up some more specifics/details to inform the rest of us on EXACTLY what S.M. and Dia are doing?

I imagine you are referring to Pastors Art Diaz and Sam Mascareno.

Art Diaz a FlorAzuler? No way in the devils hell.

Sam Mascareno? I tell you again, no way in satan's hell is or was a FlorAzuler.

But you are entitled to your opinion. If you are going to make such accusations, then please provide evidence.

Knowing both, I serverly doubt you have any.

Unknown said...

Is it not today that Richard Buffet goes to trial and try to convince the jury that it was the girls fault that he shoved his tounge down that girls throat?

Unknown said...

I think Richard Maffey needs a new name.

Some help would be appreciated.

Richard Lenguas?

Rev. Besitos?

LOL

Question:

Whats Richard Maffey's favorite taco?

Answer:

De Lengua!

LMAO!!

Little Eddie said...

Richard I. Likeit


Favorite Taco:
Al La Diabla

Favorite meal in prison:
Chorizo

Unknown said...

Hamburger is going to love calling Buffet "Chorizo" lol

Unknown said...

Today at 6:00pm begins the "congreso pastoral there in the interior district at f.o.t. As someone quoted, I hope this will be a major turning point in the aa. all pastor boycott this thing.

factsonly1 said...

Re: Richard Maffey

I think Richard Maffey took "Speaking in Tongues" to a whole new level.

Unknown said...

Rev. Lenguas(Rev. Richard Maffey, brother of Bishop Leo Maffey) is a vegitarian, because he's going have lots of salad tossed when he gets to the pinta.

LET ME TELL YOU WHAT'S NEXT! said...

BY SPECIAL INVITACION


YOU ARE CORDIALLY INVITED

TO

ATTEND
THIS SATURDAY MARCH 28, 2009
AT 1 O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING

THE RETIREMENT PARTY FOR



THE

HONORABLE DANIEL SANCHEZ WHO

WILL BE RETIRING FROM ALL HIS

LYNCHINGS DUE TO HIS


WINTERING

YEARS

OF HIS LIFE BORN 1925

IN MEXICALI,


BAJA CALIFORNIA



TO BE SEATED WATCHING THE


ORANGE COUNTY ANGELS

BALL GAME, AS IT IS HIS

FAVORITE MEDITATION

TIME...FOR THE REST OF

HIS LIFE

THE HONORABLE SANCHEZ WHO HAS
NO

DEGREE


WILL BE AWARDED HIS

HONORARY HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA,
RECEIVED AFTER MUCH
DELIVERATION


REACHED THE EXCLUSION



OF

79 YEARS OF AGE


NOW FREE TO GO FOREVER MORE.
LA DISTINGUIDA WILL ALSO BE

RECIEVING HER HONORARY

JUNIOR HIGH

SCHOOL DIPLOMA DUE TO HER 78 YEARS

OF AGE.

ACCOMPANYING HIM IN HIS DREARED


FULL OF


REGRETS JOURNEY.


ATTIRE: COME AS YOU ARE.

RSVP: BY TODAY: TUESDAY MARCH 24, 2009.

@(909) 987-3013
EXCLUBERANCE: THE LEFT BEHIND

HONORABLES: HOSTING THE EVENT.


SAM VALVERDE, PACHECO, MAFFEY, PRADO, MARTIN DEL CAMPO,




P.S. THIS EVENT WILL BE HOSTED IN "MANDATORY" TO THE MANDATE CONSTITUTION AMENDMENT, TODAY

MONDAY, MARCH 23, 2009


BY THE HONORABLES THAT ALL CLERGY OF THE APOSTOLIC ASSEMBLY WILL BE OBLIGATORALLY "FORCED TO RETIRE AT THE AGE OF 70.


EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY:

SIGNED AND SEALED AT THE MINISTERIAL MEETING: FOUNTAIN OF LIES....FONTANA, CALIFORNIA..


(IF SANCHEZ AND THE HONORABLES ARE
"FORCING ALL CLERGY TO "RETIRE MANDATORY, EFFECT TODAY MONDAY, MARCH 23, 2009..

THE FIRST ONE TO "GO" IS SANCHEZ BECAUSE OF HIS "MATURE AGE OF 79.
ANDSANCHEZ SECONDED THE
MOTION
BROUGHT TO THE FLOOR BY THE HONORABLE VALVERDE.

HE IS A PASTOR AND PART OF THE RANCHO CUCAMONGA HOME BOYS.


PLEASE RESPOND.RSVP:

BY TODAY: IF LATER TAN WEDNESDAY

YOU WILL HAVE TO PAY THE FULL PRICE OF $10,000.00.




-----------------------------
EL HONORABLE SANCHEZ PROPUSO EN LA REUNION DE AHOY, MARZO 23,2009

QUE TODO PASTOR QUE TENGA 70 ANOS VA TENER QUE FORSOSAMENTE "JUCILARSE"..

IMMEDIATAMENTE EFFECTIVO.
MARZO 23, 2009.

ESTO TIENE QUE COMENZAR CON EL HONORABLE SANCHEZ TIENE 79 ANOS.


ESTO TIENE A SAM VALVER Y A LOS DEMAS MUY CONTNENTOS PORQUE AHORA VIENE LA DE ELLOS....


QUE DIOS TENGA MISERICORDIA DE NOSOTROS...HAGA RESPLANDECER SU ROSTRO SOBRE NOSOTROS.
PUEBLO SUYO SOMOS Y OBEJAS DE SU PRADO. ENTRAR POR SUS PUERTAS CON ALABANZA.



DIJO EL SENOR: PEDRO ME AMAS?
PEDRO REPONDIO"SI SENOR TU SABES QUE TE AMAS?

"APACIENTA MIS OVEJAS"


NO LE DIGO JESUS A PEDRO" MATA MIS OBEJAS.'

NI TAMPOCO LE DIGO
"PEDRO ROBA A MIS OVEJAS"...


"QUITALES TODO EL DINERO.".....TODO EL DINERO.........

ES TODO LO QUE QUIEREN.....EL DINDERO


PARA ESO HACEN TANTAS REUNIONES, Y MAS Y MAS "REUNIONES"

PORQUE? PORQUE NO ESTAN RECIBIENDO LO SUFFICIENTE PARA SUS ALTOS SALDOS DE $10,000.00 POR MES!!!!!
Y A DE MAS RECIBIEN "DOBLE SALARIOS"

IGLESIA Y LA DIRECTIVA.....NO SE PUEDE TOLERAR MAS ESTO1111


DEJELES DE DARLES NO MAS DINEERO...!!!
EN EL NOMBRE DE NUESTROS DIOS. NO LES MANDEN MAS DINERO...

"QUE SALGAN DE "REAL"Y QUE BUSQUEN

TRABAJO...COMO MUCHO DE LOS PASTORES TIENEN DOS TRABAJOS PARA MENTENER A SU FAMILIA.


NO ES JUSTO, NO LO ES NO LO ES...
UNESE CON SU HERMANO PASTOR Y TENGA VOZ, Y VOTO...


QUE DIOS LES BENDIGA......

SEA UN GEDEON!!!!!!

UN JOSUE, UN MOISES, UN ABRAHAM, UN DAVID.....

ESTO NO ES JUSTO...QUE USTED SI..
Y ELLOS NO....

LET ME TELL YOU WHAT'S NEXT! said...

Tomarrow is Wednesday:
Do not forget to RSVP for The Honorable Sanchez's retirement party.

To be held on Saturday at 1 a.m.on
Fountain of Lies in Fontana, here in California the domain of the Wanna Bee Bishop Valverde.

The "retirement" is simply in OBEDIENCE TO THE NEW RULING OF THE HONORABLES THAT
NO ONE OVER THE AGE OF 70 CAN ANY
LONGER BE A PASTOR, OR ANY OTHER
CLERGY POSITION IN THE AA.


I GUESS ALL THE "RETIREES" WILL
EXODUS TO THE NEW AWA!!!!

BE CAREFUR...BE CAREFUR, BE CAREFUR
BISHOP SALOMON...

ALSO BE CAREFUR, BE CAREFUR WITH ALL THE "GAYS" FLORAZUERS WANTING TO MAKE "MEGA BUCKS PEDDYING THEIR WIVES IN WANNA SONG.

KEEP ALL THE "FLORSZAURERS OUT OF YOUR WONDERFUL AWA ORGANIZATION...


SEE YOU AT THE HONORABLE SANCHEZ RETIREMENT PARTY...WHO IS 79 YEARS OLD. NEXT IN LINE WILL BE VALVERDE AND PACH., AND MA...

IF YOU DO NOT RSVP BY WEDNESDAY.,
YOU WILL BE FINED $10,000.00.
(909) 937-987-3013)
ASK FOR LA DISTINGUIDA....

WatchOut! said...

Ummm, so what is the Prez retiring from? The AA? The local pastorship? The presidency? Christianity? Kicking people out of the AA? Or is he simply retiring from his bad ways?

LET ME TELL YOU WHAT'S NEXT! said...

CAMINANDO:
IN REPLY TO YOUR POST.


This week all the Ministerial Body and their "distinguidas" are at FOL, "Fountain of Lies" facility...To get all the Monies from the local churches.

$10,000.00. is the LOWEST BID., GIVE MORE IF THEY WANT A "FEATHER IN THEIR HAT"...AND THEY NAME "VOICED BY THE "HONORABLES"..


THE HONORABLES DO NOT NEED THE AA MEMBERS IN ANY OF THEIR FUNCTIONS.

AS LONG AS THE BISHOPS, ANCIANOS AND PASTORS TAKE TO THEM "THE GREAT OFFERINGS...THEY DESERVE).....


IT ALL MONEY, MONEY, MONEY AND MORE MONEY...

EVEN IF THE COUNTRY IS IN A CRISIES...
THE HONORABLES DO NOT CARE....

THE CHURCH MEMBERS "KEEP ON GIVING, AND GIVING, AND GIVING.

BECAUSE THE MEMBERS HAVE BEEN "CONDITIONED, MENTALLY THAT IF THEY DO NOT GIVE....THEY WILL BE "CURSED"......

SO THEY KEEP ON GIVING AND GIVING, AFTER ALL THEIR gods, ARE THE HONORABLES....

THAT IS OBIOUS.....SAD AS IT MAY SOUND...

THE BIBLE STATES TO GIVE 10%!!!!


PRIORITY of the main agenda AT THE

MINISTERIAL POW WOW THIS WEEK,is that any pastor or clergy person of 70 years
of age is to be "retired effective" Saturday...MARCH 28,2009..

BUT DOES THIS NEW AMENDMENT ALSO APPLY TO THE "HONORABLES"????
THAT IS THE "BIG QUESTION"?

WE THINK IT DOES...

SO WE ARE PLANNING A RETIREMENT
PARTY FOR THE HONORABLE SANCHEZ...
ON SATURDAY MARCH 28,2009 @ 1 A.M.


AT THE FOUNTAIN OF LIES COMPOUND...IN FONATANA.

MOO GREEN WILL HOST IT....AT THIS DESERT COMPOUND.....



Sanchez is in that catagory, he is 78 years old, give or take., THERE FORE HE IS "BEING RELEASED" OF ALL OF HIS MINISTERIAL DUTIES...

CHURCH PASTORSHIP, AND THE GB HEAD HANCHO"..

THIS IS IN ACCORDANCE TO AN AMENTMENT PROPSED BY VALVERDE, WHO "WANTS SANCHEZ" OUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.SANCHEZ IS TO BE RETIRED OF "EVERYTHING"...PASTORSHIP, WHICH HE SHOULD NEVER HOLD THAT POSITION, AND ALSO TO BE THE "HEAD HANCHO."

SO THIS APPLIES TO THE "ORCA DE MARDUQEO"


THE "SAME NOOSE". SANCHEZ APPROVED, THE SAME "NOOSE" IS APPLICABLE TO HIM..... "OUT"....

so now who is in the next "MUSICAL CHAIR?????
VALVERDE.....AND WHO IN VALVERDE'S PLACE......

WELL OF COURSE......THE GUY THAT HAS THE CHURCH PROPERTY IN "HIS OWN NAME".....

(I FORGOT HIS NAME.)

GOD BLESS YOU

lehan said...

Sanchez thinks he has it bad so he is going to retire.

Who is next to retire because sam is not going to have it easy either.

You think you can try and fool God but God is a real God.

No matter what happens you can not escape him.

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