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Orange County District Attorney
Press Release
Tony Rackauckas, District Attorney
401 Civic Center Drive West
Santa Ana, CA 92701
For Immediate Release
Case # TBA
November 12, 2008
Contacts:
Susan Kang Schroeder
Public Affairs Counsel
Office: 714-347-8408
Cell: 714-292-2718
Farrah Emami
Spokesperson
Office: 714-347-8405
Cell: 714-323-4486
PROTESTANT PASTOR CHARGED WITH MOLESTING
14-YEAR-OLD FEMALE PARISHIONER
NEWPORT BEACH– A Protestant pastor of the Apostolic Christian Church in San Clemente was charged today for molesting a 14-year-old female parishioner that he met through his job. Ricardo Avalos Maffey, 42, Santa Ana, was charged with three felony counts of lewd acts upon a child between the ages of 14 and 15, and one felony count of contacting a minor with the intent to engage in child molest. If convicted, he faces a maximum sentence of five years and six months in prison. He is out of custody on $100,000 bail. Maffey is scheduled to be arraigned Dec. 5, 2008, at 8:30 a.m., Harbor Justice Center, Newport Beach. The Department will be determined later.
Maffey met Jane Doe through his role as a pastor. Between May 2008 and August 2008, the defendant is accused of violating his position of trust by engaging in illegal sexual contact with Jane Doe. On multiple occasions, he is accused of passionately kissing Jane Doe on the mouth. He is also accused of contacting her several times to meet and engage in kissing.
Anyone with additional information or who believes they have been a victim is encouraged to contact District Attorney Supervising Investigator Randy Litwin at (714)347-8794 or the Orange County Sheriff’s Sex Crimes Investigation Unit at (714)647-7419.
The Orange County Sheriff’s Department investigated this case. Deputy District Attorney Tony Ferrentino of the Sexual Assault Unit is prosecuting this case.
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Wasn't Richard Maffey in line to serve on the Apostolic Assembly General Board? Has the organization made a public comment? How far in advance did they know Maffey was performing these lewd acts and did nothing?
Don't worry, the insurance companies will pay the attorney's fee's and penalties.
http://orangecountyda.com/home/index.asp?page=8&recordid=1074&returnurl=index.asp%3Fpage%3D8
http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/OC-Pastor-Accused-of-Kissing-Teenage-Girl.html
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/orange/la-me-pastor13-2008nov13,0,1568393.story
http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=4226712&cl=10649090&src=news
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Can someone post the Summit(Califas)info that's scheduled for January . Thanks!
Can anyone confirm verdict on
Pastor Ricahrd Maffey
Maffey Requested and was Granted a "Continuance" for January 23rd, 8am.
Was given a Restrictive Order as part of his Terms and Conditions to remain free on Bail Bond, set at $100,000.00
On January 23rd he will enter in a plea.
If he enters a "Not Guilty", then trial will be set for another date.
Its going to be a while folks...
Henry,
Was he represented by his Own attorney or the aa's?
Henry!!!
will you join me for dinner at Mariscos? I would like for us to have another elicit encounter!! It is your turn to provide blankets.
Sola the harlot please do not surprise us because we need our privacy.
Mr. Maffey was represented by counsel. However, I doubt he was the AA lawyer. They specialize in churches and civil litigation whereas Mr. Maffey is in need of a Criminal Defense Lawyer.
I don't expect him to plead guilty or enter a plea bargain. He's looking at time in State Prison. With the particular charges against him, it could make for a rough stay if he pleads or is found guilty. Remember, when they charged him, Jane Doe was 14. But the alleged acts go back a year, making her 13 years old at the time of the first alleged encounter.
The verdict came in on O.J Simpson he has been sentence to 15 years to life in prison. I really thought he was going to get away with everything he's done being that he was a celebrity and had money and was also famous because he played in the NFL.
This proves that one can commit wrongdoings and get away with it. No matter who they are it will catch up to them because as "Geraldo" said referring to O.J Simpson "what goes around comes around." That is so true.
paz de cristo
this place really needs it,
este lugar es una cueva,
Dios NOs guarde
arrepentios y convertios
my deseo DTB
Henry, thanks for the info but, I did not know she was 13 yrs old at the time of the incident.
TO FACTSONLY1 ARE YOU FROM FAMILY LIFE CENTER........
Mary,
We are boycotting factsonly. We are ignoring him. Please do not engage in conversation with him, her or it.
O.K SORRY... HE OR SHE ONCE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT F.L.C. JUST THOUGHT HE OR SHE WAS FROM THEIR. MY BAD
I had a busy working for the kingdom. But the lord impressed upon my heart to send you greatings and blessings in the blessed name of Jesus.
"friend or foe"
Listen buddy, find your self another word other then "pathetic" and another person that you can use it on. I am not sticking up for factsonly1, I am just stating a fact. And the fact is that he/she gets to you.
If I happened to mispelled a word and you want to make an issue out of it what can I say? Pathetic?
I apologize for the typo.
You are plain boring and your comebacks are lame. Actually you would really miss factsonly1, because at least he/she brings something interesting and entertaining and sometimes educational.
I said what I had to say and I didn't stutter! By the way I never said I was leaving maybe that is wishing thinking on your part. I also agree with Ross Perot in the fact that too much nonsense and filthy language goes on here apart from the bashing of some underserving people as well. It is sad since we are all supposed to be christians, rather AA or not.
Just do yourself a favor and do not respond to my blog. PLEASE!!
The point was and is and will be to you and everyone who wants to say Frank and his team did not do a good job to keep their comments to themselves!
If you haven't done as much work for The Lord as all these young men did, you do NOT have the right to opinionate.
I am moved to pray for all the people that are blogging in here as I see there is a great need for it. If only all this negative energy could be used for something positive......WOW that would be something!!!
People Orad sin cesar!
God be with all and be blessed!
Que El Senor les bendiga.
I've read over and over again about Pastor Richard Maffey on this site and all of you talking smack about him...isn't a christian site aren't we suppossed to love and respect other's...I used to attend the church in San Clemente and to tell you the truth the Maffey Family were the only decent one's of the whole congregation.Those people over there are the reason why I never ever went back...So look at the facts before you open your mouth not everything is what it seems...So before you guys point the finger and through the rock watch your testimony first because we all have skeleton's in the closet and like the bible say's "Quita primero la paja de tu ojo".If Pastor Richard did the things that he's accused of then God will deal with him.So stop being fake ass christians and just pray for the man!!!
"we are all supposed to be christians"
Yeah, too bad our general board doesn't seem to quite grasp that concept. Seem like all sort of unethical, well really "unethical" is waaaay too nice a description for what they are doing.
stop hating - Hey did you have to say "fake a_ _ christians"? Now I have this horrid picture in my mind of all the hermanas/hermanos wearing inflated booty girdles.
Isn't this a christian site...I thought so I keep reading about Pastor's Richard situation..and it's funny to me how some christian's can be so cruel and ignorant.It reminds me when I used to attent the San Clemente congregation and how horrible those people were and how blind they are...The Maffey Family were the only decent one's there.So stop hating on the Pastor you fake ass christians because we all have skeleton's in the closet so before you open your mouth check yourself first(starting with sister's cristina salgado,luz rodiguez,margarita aranda,elena rendon) you know who you are!!! If Pastor Richard did what they say he did then God will deal with him...but if it's lie from that family then they'll get their pay sooner or later...
Gosh you called them "fake a_ _ christians" and then you asked them to pray. I'm sure that's not gonna put them in the right prayer mood.
Let's get back to the $4 million dollar question. Has anyone heard about a certain tourist resort being built down in Baja CA? Board member? Any of you heard anything about this?
Surely someone in the west coast knows something. I mean here we are all the way in the midwest and reports are coming in to us here in the "boonies", so can somebody fess up if you know something. Gb? Valverde? Pacheco? Aw, come on like I said before "lies only last until the truth appears". Is that where the $4 million big ones went?
Don Fernando, are you out there? You seem to know quite a bit, do you know anything about this at all?
Pray for Sis. Del & her family we don't know everything and will probably never will. Specially for the children involved.
WE KNOW ONE THING THAT RICHARD WIFE WAS NOT TAKING CARE OF HER HUSBAND WITH LOTS OF LOVVVVVVVVVVVVVVE AND KISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSED AND HUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
Mary, It is ONE (kiss,love...)of the issues but, not all. That's not the only thing men need. I'm sure t/were some red flags that she ignored.
That does not excuse him from putting his tongue down a 13 year olds throat.
If there was problems with his marriage its not for you to come on here and air them out, you don't know that for sure, and if there were problems it was not right for him to try to get chon chon from a 13 year old.
For crying out loud go find a hooker, if your that disperate
OH I KNOW...SHE WAS NOT BEING THE WOMAN OF GOD, GOD HAD CALLED HER OUT TO BE.. A WIFE,LOVER, PASTOR WIFE THE LIST CAN GO ON BUT AS A PASTOR HE NEED TO BE LOVED 24/7 NOT ONLY WHEN SHE WAS IN THE MOOD...
In other words your saying he was horny 24/7?
How would you know that?
Even if that's the case, you don't go find a 13 year old and stick your tongue down her mouth.
TO IDONTKNOW...AND YOU DONT..IM NOT AIRING OUT HIS MARRIAGE PROBLEMS THE NEWS DID THAT, THATS HOW YOU FOUND OUT ABOUT HIM....AND YOUR ON THIS BLOG. TO FIND OUT MORE SINCE YOU DONTKNOW..LOL
Don't know,
I'am not worried about Maffey .
If it's true, he has been exposed. Worry about the ones you cannot detect. Some men "Nos desvisten con los Ojos" My daughter is a teenager and I don't allow her to go to the ladies room (church)alone. I don't care how much of a Hot Pepper preacher they are you have to keep an eye . "mucho ojo"
TO LL...ITS SAD WHEN YOU CANT EVEN LET YOUR OWN DAUGHTER USE THE LADIES ROOM ALONE AT YOUR CHURCH AND HAVE TO KEEP IN EYE ON HER WHEN SHE DOES....I PRAY WHEN ITS TIME FOR HER TO MOVE ON IN HER LIFE SHE FINES A GOOD MAN IN THE LORD AND NOT A RICHARD M. OR A MAN LIKE HIM. ON FIRE FOR THE LORD FOR A SEASON AND OUT FOR LUST IN ANOTHER SEASON.
QUOTE:
"ON FIRE FOR THE LORD FOR A SEASON AND OUT FOR LUST IN ANOTHER SEASON."
lol... good one Mary
YA...JUST LIKE I SAID IT....
YA.. IS LIKE THIS, YOU SERVE THE LORD FOR 1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8/9/10YRS. ECT.AND GIVE UP THE LORD TO PARTY WITH THE DEVIL IN THE PLAYFUL WORLD OF SIN.........
Abel Torres claims that he was offended because Daniel Sanchez linked him with us bloggers.
I do not know about Abel Torres, but Baldemar sure gave me his blessing concerning my posts. The truth is Baldemar is just as evil as the current GB. After spending time with Baldemar, I have concluded that he is full of Bitterness.
Bro. Rodriguez and Bro. Torres I challenge you two to post on this blog and share you true sentiment about this blog. Baldemar do you agree with my blogging? You know who I am so I ask that if you blog to use your real name. Do not use codes name such as 95thesis(Art Tafoya). Also, I would like to extend the challenge to Daniel Solomon and Sister Rita "Fema Nazi" Solomon.
"Fema Nazi"???????????
Mary:
You sure know a whole lot about R. Maffey!! Do you have a thing for him?
Do you feel uncomfortable going to the ladies room? I doubt it because you seem to be nothing more than a two dollar tramp.
How do you know R. Maffey's wife was not meeting his needs? Please give details you gossiping putita.
aight... so
what to do with FOT bloggers...
Your Time WILL COME
-Skotty
Don't know
Sound like another name for Dumbass!!!!!!
What the heck! Is it a full moon or what.
nice cbg nice... note the swiss cheese pic for the original bro...
Lots of angry people out tonite.
OK THATS BETTER...
Original up in this!
WHATS UP FOT HATERS???
funny it took them so long to figure out what was going on ...
then factso cried to daddy or mommy... or even his sancho...
now they rallied up the troops huh?
ok im tweakin my user name... so bare with me people!
ssfasdfa
The sad part about this blog is that it is a clear picture of how the AA is ran.
AA LEADERS - read this blog and you will see what you have produced. Hats off to you Apostolic Assembly - you are an embarrassment to Christianity.
ps. No, I am not in the Assembly, I take my salvation seriously.
LOL! WOW! LOOKS LIKE MANY ANGRY PEOPLE OUT THERE TONIGHT! LOOKS LIKE THEY DIDN'T GET THEIR "SUNDAY BLESSING" TODAY! LOL
what else is new?
Sup with Convention bein hated on by Factso...
wasnt worth his time so he ducked out after the brown nosing was done...
So whats up with the $4million... that is missing?
whats up with the imposter bein crazy with Panties??? (did someone not get enough hugs as a child?)
how could you get the blessing when you got valverde up at the pulpit Sweatin Bullets!
LOL
wheres EDDIE???
he might have told you how to take the money sam... but dang he ditched you at the right time eh?
RIGHT ON MANO!
sad part is this has been goin on since 06!
I guess none of the pastors at the Dallas convention were brave enough to ask about Valverde's "brush" with the law. Wow, first Pacheco, now Valverde. I guess they figure if they can get away with riggin an election and naming a car scammer to the general board they can go on to bigger and better game. Namely $4 million$$$.
I wonder if Pacheco's been "questioned" yet. . . Or maybe he took a flight to Chile straight from Dallas.
With the mega ofrendas in his pockets.
TO TROPHYMAN...WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT.. DID I HIT A NERVE... YOU NEED TO REREAD THE BLOG... WHY ARE YOU ON THIS BLOG. DO YOU HAVE A THING FOR RICHARD OR WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT TO KNOW ABOUT HIM THAT YOU ALREADY KNOW..HOW DO I KNOW RICHARD WIFE IS NOT MEETING HIS NEEDS..LOL IT WAS ALL OVER THE NEWS. AND DONT GET IT TWISTED IM NOT GOSSIPING...NEWS FLASH HE WAS ALL OVER THE NEWS.. HE WAS MY PASTOR. SO TROPHYMAN OR IS IT TROPHYWOMAN WHO AM I..WE KNOW EACH OTHER..LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL its funny, that out of all the bloger. you want to call me out..lol
Praise the Lord Bloggers!
It’s been a while since I last got on here to comment and it seems that not much has changed. Still seems to be the same people talking about the same things
I would like to know what happened to the revolution. Where are the leaders of this rebellion against the AA? Why is it that we no longer see Scotty’s videos and what’s happened to that 80 something year old pastor blogger “thought for the day”
Where is the Revolution? Why don’t see blogs with Specific information about the mass exodus of Pastors and churches going over to the new organization.
If I recall correctly the whole purpose of the blog was to do something about the wrongs of the 2006 elections. Are we to assume that reality has set in and those who tried to stand up for “justice” have given up or was it just a bunch of talk.
Where’s “thought for the day” at least his ramblings made things entertaining in here?
I guess the GB was right when they said, Revolution? What Revolution?
God Bless!
What an embarrassment, not even your own pastors speak on your behalf. They're too focused on trying to keep their own position, otherwise, how else would they pay the bills?
A system based on "SELF" in every which way. Integrity and morals have been thrown out the window in order to preserve position and to save face while the members have to flip the bill.
Redeemedintheblood
The answer to your question.
Acts 5
When they heard this, they were furious and plotted to kill them. Then one in the council stood up, a Pharisee named Gamaliel, a teacher of the law held in respect by all the people, and commanded them to put the apostles outside for a little while. And he said to them: “Men of Israel, take heed to yourselves what you intend to do regarding these men. For some time ago Theudas rose up, claiming to be somebody. A number of men, about four hundred, joined him. He was slain, and all who obeyed him were scattered and came to nothing. After this man, Judas of Galilee rose up in the days of the census, and drew away many people after him. He also perished, and all who obeyed him were dispersed. And now I say to you, keep away from these men and let them alone; for if this plan or this work is of men, it will come to nothing; but if it is of God, you cannot overthrow it—lest you even be found to fight against God.”
Redeemed...
VISIT OUR NING COMMUNITY...
REDEEMED...
NO NEW VIDS LATELY
BECAUSE I HAVE to work...
sorry i choose not to follow the ways of the gb and TAKE other peoples money... and act like nothing happened...so that i can live my lifestyle...
but yeah .. no new vids because of work...
dont worry though... my next vid is in the works...
-skotty
May the lord bless this blogg this day. May the lord fill it with holy ghost filled christians that follow christ.
PRAISE REPORT!
I have been sowing and working for the great apostolic harvest. I spend many hours talking to people about the lord at bus stops, coffee places, bookstores, everywhere I go.
I came accross a young lady and invited her to church saturday night while I was at somewhere.
She came to church! The seed has been planted. Her parents are very influential and wealthy people and so she is a very important soul for the lord.
May the lord bless you bloggers this day, amen.
REMINDER:
we are boycotting factsonly1. please do not engage in conversation with him.
he/she/it is an attention whore and gets a thrill out of getting everyone bent out of shape. Do not contribute to his/her blog fetish.
how can you say such a thing. all I did was give a praise report. since when did giving a praise report become a sin?
Blogger there is a very interesting conversation going on in the blog, "http://thetruthatlast-justice.blogspot.com" under the spechless section. It concerns the new organization (AWA) and some of their board members.
Only Serious, Christian bloggers check it out! please.
Wow...This blog is truly entertaining!
Yes, very entertaining. The worst part about it is, this blog is a snapshot of the AA. You want to know what the AA is like? Just read how people interact on this blog.
Redeemed
The reason I do not have any video is because all the plantiffs have been kicked out. Most of the pastors in the AA think I am idiot.
Do you think Iam an idiot? If you do you are correct. My behavior has prevented me from progessing in my llfe. My church life the majority of Apostolics think I am an idiot. My work life, I
am unable to go into lower management at mariscos.
I have thought of attending church with AWA but I think Baldemar is a backslidden leader.
Factso, you said, "Her parents are very influential and wealthy people and so she is a very important soul for the lord."
So any other non-influential or wealthy person is not a very important soul for the Lord? You fool. But I see where you're coming from ITS THE gb WHO needs the WEALTHY NOT THE LORD!
She's a very important soul because of the influence her family has in the higher cirles of life.
Every soul is precious. But some souls are diamonds while others are coal. Each is of value but some have a higher use for the kingdom.
I am trying to be the best and number one soul winner thats not a minister.
I have some good skills I bring to the lords table, networking.
Before I got saved, I used to be part of 2by2.net, then Primerica.
The lord showed me my talents and to use them for the lord.
Its like brother Efrain Valverde says, "if the devil can use the power of mind control for his kingdom, then why not the saints for the kingdom of God?".
God Bless you bloggers.
Even bless the person who uses my login id of the same, factsonly1.
Have blessed mid afternoon.
the apostolic assembly has moved forward, im sad many people
still in the same limbo "patinando"
telling the same old gossip
everyone knows,
we had a glorious convention God spoked to his people
lets do God's job
get over it
en las luchas y en las pruebas
la iglesia sigue caminando
NADA la detiene para predicar
en esto conocereis que son mis dicipulos...........
i dont have many time to comment ,im to busy preaching the gospel,
i encourage the real christians
not to waste any more time here,
remember what was said in the convention, in the old times members had RESPECT for bishops
pastors even deacons
(when a bishop visited a house people were so happy in the spirit even speaking tongues)
in this time people think we all r the same but in gods kingdom
is the other way around
.as for brother maffey he is just a sinner like me, and you
consider yourself before judgind anyone
internet is not evil
but a TREMENDOUS TOOL for belzebu
we r all in danger here
dios les bendiga
wow.... so much hate goin on...
M0P. dont you guys have your own site to PLAY around on?
keep hatin FOT...
the original skotty!
is still here!
In the old times I remember bishops fulfilled their calling as well as pastors, but now it seems everyone wants a part of the bank. Even bishops programing there own bishops day. I wonder who the objects are now, the money or the congregants.
Yes, the convention must have been so glorious with the AA pastorship dwindling. What happened to the gold, silver and bronze participants.
TO..FACTSONLY1..WHY DONT YOU INVITE US TO YOUR CHURCH WE ARE ALL VERY INFUENTIAL AND WEALTHY BLOGERS..AND IM SURE VERY INPORTANT TO THE LORD TOO...TAKE A STEP OF FAITH AND INVITE US BLOGERS....
although i lean more for one side then i do for the other. both are shunning what yall are standing for. especially that cake ass factsonly1. yea yea i know boycott him. but he has got to be the biggest idiot ive ever run across. and i visit california alot. so ive encountered plenty of idiots. "influential" "wealthy". what the hell did u all of a sudden turn into a dago whop gangster of mick politician. My ball sucking friend u got no scruples. u think u got us all in shame or in the hide. but u no...of course not u got "friends in the know" NIGGA PLEASE. i hope u still got ur clan of prayers to figure out my identity.
Does anyone know if there will be churches from the southern cali area to join AWA. Will anyone start a church out here?
Does anyone know if there will be churches from the southern cali area to join AWA. Will anyone start a church out here?
fast not diet,
i don't think any church wants to join the new awa. I mean, come on, Art Tafoya is on their BOD.
That's like hiring George Bush to be your english teacher.
Or hiring OJ Simpson to watch over your baseball card collection.
Another praise report!
Glory to God in the highest! I just found out that Prophet Montenegro, through his hard work in the evangelical gift, has personally saved 10 souls in the Arizona State Federal government.
That means, that apostolic church in Arizona will be more fluential in the area of world affairs.
This will bring to fluition the prophesy given by Prophet Aguilar that people world wide would be saved by our works.
It won't be long before we hit 2,000,000 souls saved for the lord for the apostolic church.
Praises be the lord! Amen!
groovy,
and the AA has atr leasts 4 "Art Tafoyas" on there GB. The difference is the system. As corrupt as you are making Tafoya out to be, the system in place does not allow for his alleged corruption to affect others.
We need more prophets like Aquilar
who can take care of everybody else
but his wife.
is the prophet aguilar still neglecting his wife? I thought he learned his lesson from when he was messing around when he was in san jose.
It bit him the butt, look at his dauther now, she followed his footsteps.
When I say Prophet Aguilar, I am referring to Prophet Jason.
As for his father, Pastor Aguilar, he's a pastor, not a Prophet.
Its the new generation of apostolic prophets that are winning the 2,000,000 souls for the lord for the apostolic church.
Its the Prophets from the young people who have our focus on the lord. We will be that last revival of the modern day church.
We are waging revival to all the world. We are waging a techno savy revival using the internet, technology and modern mechanisms for the evangelisming of the world.
Its the new generation of apostolic prophet winning the world!
Amen!
Fast not Diet,
What part of Southern Cali are u in?
Fast not Diet,
What part of Southern Cali are u in?
Hey factso, so is that the AA's new idea giving a title to the "prophets" as in Prophet Jason? Should we also now say Mr. Bad-Mouthed President Sanchez, or how about Mr. Car Scammer Pacheco, even the $4million Dollar Man Valverde?
Has this blog come close to its end?
Who is the winner? AA? AWA? Maybe both? What started out good is maybe coming to a miserable end.
candy, you are right on with ur comments they will not respond to you because the truth is set before them and yes this is a christian site if they prefer to use foul and discusting words they should go to their worldly sites. im surprised the blog master does nothing or say nothing shame on you and all that have no respect for others .
oh so quiet on this site all of a sudden! Goodnite and God Bless you all !
As we can see, most of the ones blogging are backslider who really have no desire for the well-being of the church. These reprobate minds can really pervert what was meant to be a good resource of what is going on within the church community.
Wish,
Los Angeles area.
I agree with some of you that this blog has taken a different direction. I support the men who stand for justice and those who do not want to continue in bondage but the foul language and the sexual content of words used on this blog by those who don't know any better is unacceptable. It is one thing for someone to express an opinion in a diplomatic way and another thing to express in uneducated manner. Unfortunately, this blog has turned into a joke! Those of us who have fought and continue fighting for what is right need to do so without giving up. PUSH! (Pray Until Something Happens!)
The people have spoken!! It is just a matter of time.
Romans 6:1
1What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? 2By no means! We died to sin; how can we live in it any longer?
Yes, this blog has turned into a joke. In fact, it's part of the Apostolic tradition, to ruin anything that perhaps may be of good use.
No wonder the assembly is in shambles, it's members can't even handle a blog. You all should be embarrassed.
That is a great statement, Remembering. And just because not much is being said on this blog about the new organization does not mean it is not moving forward. As long as we have God that is all we need. If people are not brave enough to stand up for the betterment of the AA for fear of losing material things or positions, then that is their loss. We who have left to tread new waters with our beloved pastors are happy to have such courageous great leaders that we can be proud of. God bless them and us as we move forward with His direction.
I agree, this blog should be used for only praise reports.
We should dedicate our lives to the evangelicking of the world and lift up his great and mighty name!
Amen!
Praise Report!
I just wanted to let you all know that the church will climb the great and mighty mountain. We will overcome all trials and great tribunals!
Amen!
Does Anyone have info on what Pastors Are going to the AWA? I heard its around 200
The dishonorable general board would love to see this blog close.
Sad to say it has turned somewhat vulgar. My opinion is that maybe themselves or family members are behind most of it. No not all of it but I think most of it.
They would love nothing better then to have it closed. That way nobody knows that 4 million dollars are missing, and all they dirty tactics they use to get their way.
Someone said something about lowering yourselves to the standards of the devil, I think it should have read lowering yourself lower then the dishorable Board.
Thats about how many pastors that I have heard about not counting the ones that are still on the verge of making a decision.
You can now get some information as to a couple of the activities the AWA will be having in the near future. Check it out at:
www.apostolicworldalliance.com
It seems that the AA has come to their knees!!! Word has it that the GB(Especially Valverde and Sanchez) were walking around conference in a remorseful state. Supposedly Sanchez anounced the low attendance was due to the activities that transpired over the past year.
Word has it that the AA is hurting financially. There has been a large exodus of ministers and Pastors. As pastors leave, their congregations follow and take pews, instuments and whatever they can. Unforntunately for the AA headquarters, they have to cover the church mortgages which is an added expense to Rancho Cucamonga. Without these congregation they are losing revenues as well as losing revenues from pastors in the organization who have not been paying the tithes of tithes. Long story short finances are pretty tight.
By the way, the majority of preachers that have left joined AWA. The truth is it does not matter where people go but that they focus on the mission given to us in Matthew 28:19.
RE: People of California v. Armando Fierro Barrientos
Tomorrow at 9:30am, Imperial Valley Superior Court, the Judge will decide whether or not to grant Barrientos an Appeal of his Guilty Verdict on the Sexual Assault Charges.
THIS BLOG. CAME ALIVE NOV.12 2008
LETS ENJOY IT..APOSTOLIC OR NOT
YA THERE MAY BE A LOT OF TRASH TAKING BUT AGAIN A LOT OF APOSTOLIC TALK TRASH IN CHURCH ANYWAYS ABOUT THE BROTHER,THE SISTER,THE PASTOR,ETC...DONT COME ON THIS BLOG BEING ALL HOLY NOW AFTER YOU READ ALL THE TRASH TALKING BLOG.
Just ignore factsonly and this blog will be more effective.
I have a feeling his only purpose was to destroy the purpose of this blog - and he was successful at it because most people can't hold back from responding to him/her/it.
From now on, we IGNORE factsonly.
Can anyone confirm how many members followed Tafoya from his congregation? Has it been confirmed that he is joining the new organization?
Barrientos Update:
Barriento's request for an Appeal was denied.
For the one charge of Sexual Battery, Barrientos was Sentenced to 60 Days County Jail.
Additionally, the Judge has Ordered that Barriento's Register as a Sex Offender for the rest of his life.
At todays hearing, the Judge rebuked Barriento's in open court for having no remorse for his actions and no remorse to his victim while he had begged for mercy in his sentencing.
Video's of the news coverage will be posted in the coming days.
Re:
People of Calif. v. Isaac Gutierrez
For those interested, Mr. Gutierrez has court on Dec. 16th at 8:30am at the Indio Criminal Court.
The DA has filed 12 Felony Counts of Grand Larceny against him. At a minimum, he's looking at 12 years in State Prison if convicted.
The Criminal Complaint will be up on the AA.info soon.
It will be interesting to see if Barrientos is allowed to keep his position as pastor.
Being registered as a sex offender sucks! I know someone who is registered, and no one wants to hire them. It sitcks with your forever!
Wonder what the oucome of Maffey's trial will be.
Thanks for the update Henry
Of course he is going the new Orgaization he is on the Board
Of Course Tafoya is going the new organization he is on the board.
To Blessedone2008,
Tafoya IS a board member of the new organization (AWA), and here in AZ no church outside the AA will join because of his past injustices as a bishop. I know because I have talked to several pastors in the state and ALL of them say NO WAY will they ever work with such a crook as Tafoya! It will be interesting to see how many other churches will join with him to have activities here in Arizona.
As far as how many members followed Tafoya from his congregation? The Tafoyanites will tell you that most of them did. However, I know several families from Glendale, Arizona, and they tell me that only some family followed him but MOST of the congregation stayed in Glendale!
And now that Sam Rojas is pastor in Glendale other families are returning back to Glendale. I personally was thinking of going to the new organization, but now that tafoya is a board member, I'm staying were I'm at! Anybody in Arizona would be a fool to join the AWA with him on the board.
Oh and one last thing, according to Sam Rojas, he told his members in Glendale that the AA is pursuing a lawsuit against Tafoya for all the missing fund in the district and local church!
Tafoya did in Arizona what the GB is doing to all the plaintiffs. As bishop of Arizona Tafoya kicked out pastors and left them out on the streets.
Deon Fowler
Eric Rangel
Frank Hernandez
Miguel Hernandez
Santos Navarrete
Roberto Gonsalez Jr.
Are all men of God in Arizona Tafoya kicked out of the district during his dictatorship!
Don't think that by Tafoya going to the AWA you got rid of all the pastors and bishops that may or may not of had committed some kind of fraud.
I personally know a few that are here in the central district of cali who magically made thousands of dollars to disappear. And your glad you got rid of Tafoya. They are all over. Money can make strange bedfellows no matter whether its a religious organization or not.
Great work Henry!! can't wait for the videos!!! It just amazes me how some people on the local newspaper website were leaving messages like, "we're praying for you pastor" "we know you're innocent" "we know you'll be aquitted of all charges" just like some in here...amazing...
HENRY...GOOD WORK!!!A+.....100%
HENRY ..GOOD WORK!!!A+.....100%
HENRY ..GOOD WORK!!!A+.....100%
HENRY.. GOOD WORK!!!A+.....100%
HENRY ..GOOD WORK!!!A+.....100%
HENRY ..GOOD WORK!!!A+.....100%
HENRY ..GOOD WORK!!!A+.....100%
HENRY ..GOOD WORK!!!A+.....100%
HENRY ..GOOD WORK!!!A+.....100%
HENRY ..GOOD WORK!!!A+.....100%
can someone tell me who is
Isaac Gutierrez?
Quepizas,
Was Eric Rangel from San Jose?
BTW..what's with celebrating PASTOR'S DAY anually is this mandatory?? and should we have this glorious event even when the pastor has not done.. let's put it nicely..NOT such a good job? Shouldn't it be the general congregation to organize it, instead of all the brown nosers..hoops!the local leaders appointed by the pastor...are there any pastor that organize their own special day??
LL
I don't know if he was from San Jose but he was pastoring in Yuma when the dictator (Tafoya) kicked him out!
pastor gino jennings adrresses all the things happening in the aa right now. hera him preach on you tube. listen to " the church today" preaching and the "office of a bishop" preaching. let me know what you think. i think he nails it right on the head!!!
Erik Rangel is brother Valverde's nephew. He used to be the membership pastor at FOT a few years back. Valverde pretty much threw Rangel under the bus and dissed him.
The valverde's pretty much trash talk about Erik Rangel, even though he was their pride and joy when he was at FOT.
That's the valverde way.
LL,
Isaac Gutierrez is one of the GB5 singers from the AA, they used to attend Union City:
gb5online.com
If you want to find out what he did, just go to:
http://www.kpsplocal2.com
and do a search for isaac gutierrez
quepisas said...
Tafoya did in Arizona what the GB is doing to all the plaintiffs. As bishop of Arizona Tafoya kicked out pastors and left them out on the streets.
Deon Fowler
Eric Rangel
Frank Hernandez
Miguel Hernandez
Santos Navarrete
Roberto Gonsalez Jr.
Are all men of God in Arizona Tafoya kicked out of the district during his dictatorship!
Quepisas, check your facts on this. Not all pastors were kicked out, some left voluntarily =) Thank goodness for that, those churches I'm sure are better off and are not involved in the AA messes.
POW
Thats olds NEWS!!!
Another Minister caught with a minor.
Rigo Cruz from the Ramona, Ca church was arrested for innapropriate beahavior with a minor.
It's really a shame that men are being caught/accused/convicted of unappropriate behavior with minors...Now more than ever, it's important that when selecting leaders you are hearing from God before appointing them. Children are the church of tomorrow. If they are being traumatized by such behavior can they lead tomorrow's church? It's sad.
Issac Gutierrez is the father of the Gutierrez Brothers. The singing group.
Isacc Gutierrez is the father of the Gutierrez Brothers, the singing group.
Blessedone2008,
I agree 100%.
It is apparent thatfor years the Assembly has practiced the bad habit of appointing Ministers Pastors and Bishops without seeking God's leading and will.
How do I know this ? You just have to examine how a Pastor or Minister comports themselves.
If there is any arrogance, pride, indifference to souls and greed then they were clearly not called.
If they cannot teach,Preach or manage people they are not called.
The true mark of a Man of God is humility and love.
And the tyrants that we have in the AA show that their buddy or uncle or daddy hooked them up with a position.
Appointed yet never annointed.
Chumina,
Thats Louie Gutierrez. Isaac is one of the singers in the gb5 group. The criminal complaint and the tv coverage all shows the singer.
You can check out CBS2 News, Dan Ball was the reporter that broke the story.
Wow, with all these ministers getting arrested, its been a banner year for the amable asamblea.
Blessedone2008 said, "Quepisas, check your facts on this. Not all pastors were kicked out, some left voluntarily..."
I Rechecked with my sources and all of them told me Tafoya had a hand in kicking EACH pastor out of the district.
So according to your info, which pastors left voluntarily?
Navarrete was not kicked out. He left voluntarily.
praise the lord
well what about you enrique ,
are you in gods plans have you been choosen for Him,
or...was it the man?
lets stop eating the flesh of Christ
remember:
mas los PERROS estaran FUERA y los HEChiCERos loS foRniCARiOs LOs hoMIcidAS Los IdoLaTrAs Y tOdO AquEl Que Ama Y hAcE MeNtIrA revelations 22
lets concentrate in each one of us, before typing SPIRITUAL nonsense,
we r all sinners
sea Dios veraz y todo hombre mentiroso
GEt on your feets in JEsuschrist NAme
repent y sean borrados todas NuestrAs rebelioneS
either in the AA or the AWA
we NeEd to get BacK to the BaSicS of FaITh para ser reconocidos
en esto conocereis que son Mis DiCiPuLoS en que............... os amais loS UnOs A lOs OtRoS
In regards to all of the sexual abuse happening in the church these days, no matter what organization, religion. It's a well known fact that sexual offenders target churches because they can disguise themselves as a willing volunteer. As a leader in my church involving children, I found this book in a local bookstore.
"Protecting your church against sexual predators" By: Boyle A. Glover This is an eye opening book written by a christian lawyer. I have read this book and will read it over and over.
Blessedone2008, everyone in the district of Arizona knows that Tafoya was after Navarrete for over a year. The dictator bishop even said some things about him from the pulpit during a district convention.
And the reason he left was because Tafoya tried to take him out of his church for some alleged missing funds (hipocrite) but was not able to do it because Navarrete was no incorporated with the AA.
My friend told me his pastor Navarrete had been under Tafoya's gun for a while and were ready to go to court but the AA told Tafoya to back off when they saw the writting on the wall.
So eventhough NAvarrete left the AA it was because of Tafoya's dealings as a bishop!
Quepisas, on that you are correct. Tafoya targeted that church for a long time. Thank God the church is in the UPC now. Every organization has it's struggles, but now seeing all of the problems in the AA. The UPC looks a lot better. At least each church governs itself and does not have to worry about Tyrants such as Tafoya hunting them down...
Eliseo,
Why do you say I am typing spiritual nonsense ?
Do you not believe that there are some ministers and pastors that are serving in the AA that were never called ?
You have to be kidding me it is so blatantly obvious open your eyes.
If your pastor puts you to sleep when he preaches was he really called ?
If your pastor is a tyrant and power hungry is that what Christ intended a pastor to be like ?
Or are you one of those that is ignorant of nepotism and cronyism and believes that if they are in that position it must be God's will ?
If you believe that I have some land to sell you in Florida.
Or maybe it hit too close to home since maybe your uncle or daddy appointed you.
If you are truly annointed and serving in the capacity in which God called you it would have not hit a nerve.
Examine yourself.
Elias
Good point about Enrique
Elias
Enrique is a prime example of a dumbass!!!
In his words he has the Bolas to man up and be a Christian. In my opinion, he should change his blog name to enriqueer.
He is MENTALLY CONSTIPATED? Poor molested little boy who has BITTERNES toward every person in ministry.
Quepizas & Pow
Well, I rember a Eric RAngel that went to Bible College in San Jose. Back in the 80's . Thanks for the info.
We all have to remember that we are serving Jesus Christ and have to carry out his mission in our ministries. For me and my family, our ministry is Children's Ministry as well as music and my husband is a preacher. We KNOW for a fact that God has called us for all of them. Although sometimes it becomes unclear in which we are supposed to put first but we are glad that we have not only the passion for the ministry but that we are not appointed but selected because God put it in our Pastors heart to have us in Children's Ministry and other ministries. We do not want to be appointed because of a need, but to be appointed because our leaders heard from God. For this reason, God has been at work in our children's ministry and over 20 children have been baptized under our ministry in 3 years. You know you are called and God's hand is in your ministry if you are seeing results. You have to worry when there are no results. When people are just thrown in a position because of a need, that I believe to be wrong because they may not be qualified.
Blesssedone2008,
Amen exactly my point.
You know that you are called when you see results and you have a passion for it.
There are too many ministers that are in it for self gain whether it be financial gain or to gain notoriety and exaltation which feeds their egoes.
Enrique
Do you have the bolas to be in ministry?
Blesssedone2008,
Amen exactly my point.
You know that you are called when you see results and you have a passion for it.
There are too many ministers that are in it for self gain whether it be financial gain or to gain notoriety and exaltation which feeds their egoes.
old CBG you DING DONG dont you understand and read that this is a CHRISTIAN blog site go play somewhere else! you are a poor excuse and your upbringing from your parents yes your parents is inexcuseable GET OFF THIS SITE !
very upsetting to have to read garbage from non-christians or luke warm christians or perhaps dead christians old cbg dont waste our time and yours if you have nothing good to say then don't. get right with the Lord !
PRAISE THE LORD EVEY BODY......
MY BAD..PRAISE THE LORD EVERY BODY...
Old Cbg
Paz de Cristo! Take it easy.
.
I CANCEL EVERY PLOT, PLAN AND SCHEME THE ENEMY HAS DEVISED AGAINST THIS
BLOG.. IN THE NAME OF JESUS AND I DECLARE NO WEAPON FORMED AGAINST US WILL PROSPER.
Has anybody noticed that everytime bloggers write about Tafoya, fouled mouth people like old cbg, cbg, seekers, and others highjack blognames and come on board.
Huuummmm, I wonder if there is a connection?
Que-PISS
So you think I am with Tafoya? What if I am part of Pacheco, FOT, CT, FLC, San Clemente or someone from AWA. Every saved and unsaved person thinks this blog is crap. The way I see I am not Christian and neither are the bloggers. So all in name of jesus idiots you have no spiritual power. However, I find it funny how the bloggers write hateful things against their own leaders and then try to have religious conversations. Now you know why I think this is a dumbass blog NOT s CHRISTIAN BLOG.
Mary I like the way you use the phrase "My Bad" That tells me that you are nothing more than a closet hoe.
TO OLD CBG.. WOW, LOL..IT WAS JUST THAT A PHRASE *MY BAD*..AND FROM THAT PHRASE YOU GOT CLOSET HOE. LOL..SORRY MY PHRASE MAY HAVE OFFENDED YOU AND MY PHRASE MAY HAVE TAKEN YOU BACK TO YOUR CHILD HOOD, BUT NOT ALL WOMAN ARE CLOSET HOES LIKE YOUR MOM... BUT NEVER THE LESS WE WILL KEEP YOU IN PRAYER CHRISTIAN, NON CHRISTIAN, APOSTOLIC NON APOSTOLIC, BACKSLIDER THE LORD STILL LOVE YOU MY BRO. OR SIS. P.S. DONT TAKE MY BAD TO HEART ITS JUST A NEW LANGUAGE BEING USED NOW A DAYS 2008..
MY BAD....... LOL LOL LOL
If you look at Isacc Gutierrez my space page, you can truly see the guy is in love with himself. He will surely have his dance card filled up everynight at the country club.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=62795622
Mary!!
I am not offended with you saying my bad. I am just identifying another apostolic tonta. I know my bad is used amongst middle schoolers and early highschoolers and old folk trying to act young. I am not sure what catagory you fall under but it seems the latter. Did I offend by calling you a hoe, I know it is not your fault you were molested by you father. Get some help so you do not sound like dumb b@#$% anymore.
Mary!
Do people still mistake your face for vomit? Is that why no one puts their hands on you head during the altar calls?
SO YOU GOT JOKES..LOL LOL.. SO YOU ARE A APOSTOLIC..LOL LOL SO WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU WENT TO THE ALTER AT YOUR APOSTOLIC CHURCH..IM REAL GLAD YOUR ON THIS WEB.SITE GOD HAS A BLESSING FOR YOU, HE LOVES YOU ..AND IM PRAYING FOR YOU MY BRO. OR SIS. YOUR WORDS DONT HURT ME THEIR JUST WORDS...LIKE VOMIT AND RIGHT NUT LOL.LOL.LOL.LOL.LOL.LOL.LOL.LOL.LOL...
SO TELL ME A NEW JOKE...LOL
Mary, Oldme and Enrique, I'm so sorry I don't know what got over me. It's just that I've been violated by my daddy for so long, I am now bypolar.
I went to FOT for help, and all the flor azules got a hold of me there and had their way with me! I'm still sore from the experience.
Please pray for me cause I'm thinking of going to Pachuecos, church, or Tafoya's church and maybe there I can find some that will care for me.
I promise I won't highjack any other blog names. If I do may the curse of the pink bottom strike my ..ss!!!
TO OLD CBG....OR WHO EVER YOU REALLY ARE....JESUS LOVES YOU AND HE GOT JOKES TOO..BUT THEIR IS POWER IN PRAYER AND WE ARE PRAYING FOR YOU MY BRO. OR SIS. SO THE JOKES ON YOU.LOL
TO OLD CBG....YOU KNOW WHO I AM LORD FORGIVE ME IM A SINNER SORRY FOR TRASH TAKING..LOVE YOU LORD.
patrick is back with his donut donut donut.
Convention was monotonous, nonetheless typical. I'm sure you all heard by now that DS didn't drink from the cup. I sure did.. I had a couple of cups, no one told me we were only to drink one, so I helped myself. I drank one for DS since he didn't bother.
I'm now dunking my donut in champurado.
So why did everyone else have "communion", even Sam V. and he was just questioned by the big guys. It's communion Sam, you're not doing Hail Mary's. Or are you? We can't tell who you're copying these days.
Champurado is not that good with a donut, note to patrick, donuts are better with milk. Champurado is better with churros.
Pachueco, well we all know Pachueco doesn't mind drinking from any cup...instead his cup runneth over, good cup of Jo right there.
i'll leave you here with a song i couldn't stop singing at the convention...it just seemed completely accurate.
You're a mean one, Mr. GB.
You really are a heel.
You're as cuddly as a cactus,
You're as charming as an eel.
Mr. GB.
You're a bad banana
With a greasy black peel.
You're a monster, Mr. GB.
Your heart's an empty hole.
Your brain is full of spiders,
You've got garlic in your soul.
Mr. GB.
I wouldn't touch you, with a
thirty-nine-and-a-half foot pole.
You're a vile one, Mr. GB.
You have termites in your smile.
You have all the tender sweetness
Of a seasick crocodile.
Mr. GB.
Given the choice between the two of you I'd take the seasick crockodile.
You're a foul one, Mr. GB.
You're a nasty, wasty skunk.
Your heart is full of unwashed socks
Your soul is full of gunk.
Mr. GB.
The three words that best describe you,
are, and I quote:
"Stink. Stank. Stunk."
You're a rotter, Mr. GB.
You're the king of sinful sots.
Your heart's a dead tomato splot
With moldy purple spots,
Mr. GB.
Your soul is an apalling dump heap overflowing
with the most disgraceful assortment of deplorable
rubbish imaginable,
Mangled up in tangled up knots.
You nauseate me, Mr. GB.
With a nauseaus super-naus.
You're a crooked jerky jockey
And you drive a crooked horse.
Mr. GB.
You're a three decker saurkraut and toadstool sandwich with arsenic sauce!!!!!!!!!!!!
P.S. Old CBG is FactsOnly1 - Ignore the sick twisted freak. The GB is just trying to get everyone off of the blog and are using a foul mouth to do so. That's what a guilty conscience will do to you.
Praise Report!
Its raining in California. When the rain and dark clouds come, water usually falls that give is the nourishment to our mother earth that God the father created.
As part of the evangelic efforts to help the apostolic church save 2,000,000 souls by 2010, I have decided to start e-evangelizing.
By e-evangelizing, I will be able to reach the mass of masses that surf the world wide web of the internet.
Taking the message to the streets will still be my bread and butter for the Lord, but I figuered that if satan can promote sin by the internet, then I can promote the Lord and save even more souls.
Trust me my fellow brothers and sisters, there wont be a convention center big enough to have the 2010 convention.
If only .25 % of the new converts go, that will be over 500,000 in attendence. That will be an awesome and mighty accomplishment for the Lord.
If only we charge $5.00 for entrance, then that will $2,500,000 in gate charges. If we pick up some offerings, that will mean even more money for the works of the Lord.
Let me ask you bloggers,
What have you done for the Lord today?
Patrick said...
"You nauseate me, Mr. GB.
With a nauseaus super-naus.
You're a crooked jerky jockey
And you drive a crooked horse.
Mr. GB"
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That sure brought on the LOL's!
This blog is funnier then Youtube.
ok ok... i have stood by way to long and have not said n e thing to help this person... but seriously
if we do not help. or if the gb does not help this individual... we are LOOKING AT A MASS SUICIDE OR SOMETHING of that sort...
WACO TEXAS???
PLEASE GB... help out ur own people...
FACTSONLY1 is going insane with depression and if you do not help this individual ...
THE BLOOD IS ON YOUR HANDS
SKOTTY....
About time
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What about removing "Maffey's" picture? He's getting too much "prime-time", besides, it's old news, don't you think?
Necios, "limpien sus casas porque vienen tiempos duros y dificiles para todos nosotros", acuerdense que les di aviso como su hermano en Cristo.
Cristo vive y viene!
ICB
funny... how it (facts1only) always comes down to a money issue..
ah.. the Ponzi Scheme mentality is still alive and kicking...
MONEYonly1.......$$$$cha ching$$
Factsonly1...
There was 2,000 in attendance at the convention this year. What percentage of the assembly is that?
500,000 in attendance at a convention? Apostolic convention?? I'm still rolling on the ground!!!
Where do you see this happening at??
Do you think before you blog??
Exposed, Exposed
Factsonly1 in his room at the convention
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4hpbOD5sCo
www.apostolicworldalliance.com
check it out.
The sad reality of the whole situation going on in the AA or AWA can be seen in - 1 Timothy 6:10 - For the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil. And some people, craving money, have wandered from the true faith and pierced themselves with many sorrows. I am neiter an AA member or AWA memeber but grew up in the AA and to this day respect and love an organization that has been blinded by man's LOVE of money. Funny how people who leave and have left the AA in the past, almost never leave on good terms, rather leave cursing.....Even the new "AWA" members. It is so sad because being a neutral observer, it saddens me to have friends on both sides of the fence who now have turned on each other, much like two kids growing up as best friends, and as they continue to grow, become rival gang members and seek to bring death upon each other. It is no different in this case...we are seeking and wishing spiritual death upon our brethren....WWJD? The new "AWA" were not oblivious to what was going on all of these years but when their time to be cut off from their source, or LOVE of money, it was then their true colors became evident.....We talk about the GB, which most definitely has its issues at hand, but remember these men of God who are now "AWA" were all one in the same. There is only one constant in life and we all know that is change....Baldemar had his time and I respect him for that, but he knew what was going on and has been going on for a long time now. We must all, not only the AA or the AWA or any other "independent" movement, turn away from what has blinded us and turn to God for refuge, strength and character so that as men of GOD, that are struggling in these perilous times, can turn away from corruption, evil, lust and most of all the HATRED that has destroyed friendships of many years to perhaps never again to be mended or restored.... WAKE UP CHURCH, WAKE UP!!!
The sad reality of the whole situation going on in the AA or AWA can be seen in - 1 Timothy 6:10 - For the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil. And some people, craving money, have wandered from the true faith and pierced themselves with many sorrows. I am neither an AA member or AWA member but grew up in the AA and to this day respect and love an organization that has been blinded by man's LOVE of money. Funny how people who leave and have left the AA in the past, almost never leave on good terms, rather leave cursing.....Even the new "AWA" members. It is so sad because being a neutral observer, it saddens me to have friends on both sides of the fence who now have turned on each other, much like two kids growing up as best friends, and as they continue to grow, become rival gang members and seek to bring death upon each other. It is no different in this case...we are seeking and wishing spiritual death upon our brethren....WWJD? The new "AWA" were not oblivious to what was going on all of these years but when their time to be cut off from their source, or LOVE of money, it was then their true colors became evident.....We talk about the GB, which most definitely has its issues at hand, but remember these men of God who are now "AWA" were all one in the same. There is only one constant in life and we all know that is change....Baldemar had his time and I respect him for that, but he knew what was going on and has been going on for a long time now. We must all, not only the AA or the AWA or any other "independent" movement, turn away from what has blinded us and turn to God for refuge, strength and character so that as men of GOD, that are struggling in these perilous times, can turn away from corruption, evil, lust and most of all the HATRED that has destroyed friendships of many years to perhaps never again to be mended or restored.... WAKE UP CHURCH, WAKE UP!!!
JLCJR06....WELL SAID
JLCJR06,
Good point BUT, the problem is that the AA leaders all raised us to believe that anyone who leaves the AA is a rebel and is no longer in the truth. That is why you have best friends ending up becoming enemies because BFF Juan left the AA and BFF Carlos stayed in the AA. So BFF Juan is the rebel, and BFF Carlitos is the Holy one who is not to pollute himself with BFF Juan.
It is sad, but this is how were taught. So, the AWA is unsaved, rebellious and filthy and not worthy of anyone's association.
The AA pretends to have mastered the mysteries of God, and anyone not aligned with the AA is a false movement.
Like they say on SNL, "REALLY??"
To Mano:
Oye, Acaso SNL significa "salte no lease?" Que no? Really?
ICB
inglesconbarreras,
jejeje... me refiero al programa que sale los sabados. El programa se llama "Saturday Night Live."
Que diran de la Asamblea si se darian cuenta de este rollo?
Mano
Nice Job!!
Not only does the AA think they have mastered the mysteries of God, they have brain washed everyone else into believing so.
To me, the AA is a “moderate” cult that uses fear and ignorance to manipulate its constituents.
No schools. No seminaries. No adequate training. Just a bunch of emotionally charged minorities.
Mano:
La verdad es que seria una "burla" y a la misma vez nada sorprende a "nuestra suciedad" (LOL!) lo que esta aconteciendo hoy en dia.
Yo siempre he creido que... lo que esta aconteciendo en nuestro mundo natural, es evidente de lo que esta aconteciendo en el mundo espiritual!
Por eso y muchas otras razones valemas que nos "pongamos las pilas" y pongamos orden a nuestra casa espiritual y fisica.
Dios esta sacudiendo todo lo que puede ser sacudido y lo que no puede ser sacudido permanecera!
Voy a empezar un blog y le voy a entitular... SNL (Salganse, No Lease). Siempre hay un lado ligero en todas las cosas! A que si?
Bueno cuidate y te banas porque este blog apesta demasiadamente!
ICB
TO MANO AND SOLA DEI GLORIA...WHAT FALSE MOVEMENT... LIVE FOR YOUR SELF MY BRO. OR SIS. NOT FOR THE AA THERE IS NO WAY YOU CAN BE BRAIN WASHED IF YOU READ THE BIBLE FOR YOURSELF WITH UNDER STANDING IN WHAT YOU ARE READING,PRAY AND FAST FOR YOUR OWN SALVATION,WE ARE LIVING IN 2008 WHAT AA CHURCH DO YOU GO TO, TO THINK THAT THE AA PRETEND TO HAVE MASTERED THE MYSTERIES OF GOD AND ANYONE NOT ALIGNED WITH THE AA IS A FALSE MOVEMENT..IF YOU THINK THE AA IS ALL ABOUT MONEY DONT GIVE THEM ANY MONEY KEEP IT FOR YOUR SELF, GET A LIFE.
Mary,
Thank you for your comments. Where do I begin? Praying and fasting is a good start. But that’s the cycle that the AA has put you in. Praying and fasting only changes your circumstances, it does not advance your spiritual walk. What advances a Christian to maturity is the special revelation of scripture. Most Apostolics don’t know what that is or how to get there.
This is why you see many backsliders in the church. They were never really converted. They were pressured into baptism (Christianity). Many people (especially the youth) just assimilated into the “culture” of the church.
The problem of the Apostolic Assembly, it is not what they preach; it is how they preach it.
Mary. Your mad not because of what we wrote, but because to some extent the AA has exploited your spiritual walk as well.
God Bless!
Seems to me like apostolic doctrine has the "holy ghost" all wrong.
How is it that people like Maffey, Barrientos, Isaac Gutierrez, Uriarte, ect...are all "holy ghost" filled Christians?
Got to be something wrong....
Can someone filled with the HG go committ statutory rape, child molesting, sexual assault, larceny?
I don't get it...
Keep the Flor Azul funds that suppose to go to missions for themselves.
Line Themselves up for the 2010 elections to make sure they win again.
And the list goes on and on and on!!!
Bad thing is when you complain about a Pastor to the Bishop he has just one line.
Your bringing up stuff against a "MAN OF GOD"
Some man of God when he does not do what God says about what a Pastor should do.
Yes that means you Davy Boy.
You don't even know when people in your congregation are having Surgery or in the hospital but I guess its ok since the Bishop considers you a MAN OF GOD
It was the week before Christmas, not a creature was stirring, not even a mouse!
WAIT!!!! But some really big rats sure are stirring. A total of 8.
MANO - You are right, many of us were raised like that and when Bro. Efrain Valverde seceded from the AA way back when, he became the "rebel/demonio" or whatever word you choose and sadly enough, many years later, there are generations of "Right Wing Valverdes" that have no communion with their own AA blood relatives. As you all can see, history has repeated itself once again and now Bro. Baldemar has seceded and those he once considered friends are now mortal enemies. We, the younger generation "Apostolics" (I do not refer to any particular organization), must go beyond those barriers of hatred and animosity. Many of us who are of voting age have witnessed history in this past election.....we have seen an afluent, caucasian, baby boomer generation turn on one of its own and turned to a black man as their leader to guide this nation for perhaps the next 8 years....they have crossed what plagued this country for centuries....bigotry and racial barriers and now change is coming, whether good or bad. How sad is it that as younger apostolics, we too can not be radical in this sense and seek change but in a diplomatic and respectful manner and cross all barriers of "religious falsehood" and just realize that whether AA, AWA, PAW, AWCF, UPC, IDJ we are all the body of christ.....IT IS TIME FOR CHANGE & THE TIME IS NOW....LETS LOVE OUR BROTHERS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FRONT & UNITE AS ONE...LETS NOT LET GENERATIONS OR YOUR YOUTH PASS US BY WITH FEELINGS HATE, RESENTMENT AND BITTERNESS AGAINST HE OR SHE WHO DID US WRONG....AGAIN I SAY, WAKE UP CHURCH, WAKE UP!!!
Any truth to the comment that Houston #2 (Joel Montes) wil be going independent soon (Maybe as late as April at ots Distict Convention)?
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