Thursday, July 31, 2008

Revolutionaries for Justice




So the Revolutionaries for Justice want to come with video camera's in hand and try to affect change?

Have you not seen the Rodney King Video? It doesn't matter what the video shows, they were found not guilty.

Do you realize that a very well respected group of pastors just tried to sue our Beloved Assembly and ended up losing their churches. You think our leaders are going to listen to a few foul mouthed, name calling, disrespectful noobs? I think not! You must realize one thing; the Apostolic Assembly of the Faith in Christ Jesus, Inc.(Texas and California) has the legal system behind them.

You can't fight City Hall. I am surprised they sued. I am surprised that some of these pastors are apologizing. "I'm sorry for pointing out how the AA and its constituents were defrauded from a fair election, can I have my church back"? But I do understand why they are apologizing: It is their livelihood at stake. That is very unfortunate because most of these pastors have nothing else to fall back on.

I did read Sister Rita Solomon's letter over on AA.info. She is very well respected, intelligent and well spoken. She articulated very well her feelings and emotions through her ordeal. The anxiety, the unknowing, the embarrassment, the humiliation, the frustration of trying to do what was right and being told you where wrong, the lack of clarity as to what the future holds, being called rebellious. As Bill Clinton said, "I feel your pain".

Now you know what countless other pastors wives, who where excommunicated and removed while your husband was on the General Board and stood their and said nothing, feels like. Welcome to the real world. And I do say that with the utmost respect and admiration for you and your husband's ministry...but it had to be said. This type of politics has been bred in our Assembly, many generations have been through this. You held the reigns and did nothing to change this, not only did you do nothing to change this, you fostered this corruption. You lived high of the hog and now the hog has turned and kicked you out of the pen.

You are free now, there is no need to come back. What are you going to come back to? Its easier to see how dirty things are when your not rolling around in it. Run free and be clean no one can hold property over your head anymore. All the other pastors are held hostage by their properties. John 8:32 Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free. The truth is that Jesus did not intend for pastors to be slaves to an organization. An organization that can do what it wants, when it wants to whom in wants in the name of Jesus. Pastor's do not realize that they are held captive because of the structure of the AA. It controls the property therefore holds captive its pastors. I may not be Bible scholar but I don't think this is what God intended. It breeds corruption, pride of the flesh.

Back to the Revolutionaries...

If you want to really affect change, you must change from within. Lose the slang, lose the hostility, put on a tie and a suit and STUDY TO SHOW YOURSELF APPROVED. Speak clearly, assertively and with the peace and kindness of Christ. You must grow into a position of respect and admiration, then...when you hold the reigns, you must not let the power go to your head. You must be a giver, not selfish and look out for future generations of Latino's across this country. Not you and your children's fancy houses and cars. This is how we must build wealth, by effecting the lives of others beyond your site and reach. YOU MUST AFFECT THE EFFECT!(That is for Freddie Jose, some of the old timers will understand the FJ reference). It will take time, be steadfast.

I am afraid if you don't, this may be the beginning of the end of our beloved social.

Apostolic Voice
BlogMaster Extraordinaire


ps.
For our revolutionaries....

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truth said...

ANYWORD ON PASTOR BARRIENTOS TRIAL

Factsonly1 said...

There's an IMPOSTER! I'm the only true and ORIGINAL factsonly1.

YES, I know for certain fact that Julio Leal has tracked all your internet addresses and has informed all your pastors.

YES, the GB has acted on this information and passed it to thier lawyers.

YES, the end of this blog is coming SOON.

truth said...

FACTSONLY1

YOU MEAN OUR LAWYERS BECAUSE WE ARE PAYING FOR THEM WITH OUR DIEZMOS AND ALL THE OFRENDAS.

I DON'T THINK OUR GB WANTS MORE TROUBL..WHEN EVER THE I.R.S COME IN PLACE THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE THEIR HANDS FULL. HOW ABOUT THAT, YOUR PROBABLY RELATED TO THE GB OR YOU MIGHT BE ONE OF THE GB...

Factsonly1 said...

IRS? Yeah right. Sure, I beleive you. What a liar! No IRS is coming over. There are no audits. Nothing. The only audits will be against those who dare challenge the men of God.

For all the discords you are cauing in the church, with all the divisions, you'll are only digging yourself a deeper hole in the pits of hell.

The last I checked, the men of God are still in power. They are un-touchable because they have the annointing.

Your secular humanistic thinking will only get you into hell. All you people with your secular humanistic degrees from Arizona State, Yale, Harvards, Fuller, are not doing anything for the church of God. Your evil is destroying a great and mighty movement started at Azusa Street.

Thought for the day said...

Dear Brother Antonio,
No Iam not a contempory of Brother John Ortega. So that settles it.
He is the son of Marcario Ortega.
Left the Assembly many years ago because he was a "warrior" and got fed up with Quiroz in Houston.

I am also not Sal Mendoza, nor Ruben Romero, Nor Andy Provencio, Daniel Jauhall's pet.
NOW BROTHER JUNIOR GARCIA THAT 'TRIED TO PREACH' IN ANHEIM ON 'HOMOSEXUALITY ON THE APOSTOLIC ASSEMBLY. HE WAS MOP PRESIDNET. BUT ARIEL MEZA WHO WAS A VERY EVIL PERSON AND WOULD 'CONTROL THE MICROPHONES 'TURNED; THE MICROPHONES COMPLETELY OFFFFFF AND THE NOICE WOULD SCREEEEEKKKKK AND IT WAS JUST AWFUL. IT WAS THEN THAT THE FLORS WERE BEING FORMED 'BIG TIME'
AND VALIENT BROTHER JUNIOR GARCIA BEING MOP PRESIDENT WAS 'COURAGEOUS' ENOUGH TO PREACH OPENING ABOUT IT , BUT ARIEL MEZA TOOK CARE OF THAT........WONDER WHY??? THE SO CALALED DOCTOR WAS IN IT 'BIG TIME' AND THE UNION CITY CHICKENS.
You know I just "tipped the HUGE ICE BERG.. so leave it at that.

My purpose is to "enlightenen the Youth, that people like you and I stay in the AA eventhough we all know so much "humanist behavior".


The AA had FIRST BEGINNING members that were "Intercessors AND WERE USED BY GOD TO BE MESSENGERS OF THE BETHLEHEM AND JERSALEM MESSAGE. OF SALVATION AND OF JESUS CHRIST AND HIS SSECOND COMING SOON TO APPEAR. and Prayer Warriors and Founded the AA as a "shelter and a Path of faith and hope to reach Heaven and be with the Lord forever.
To form a family under the auspices of a "True Evangelical Truth" Based on the ACTS of the Apostles and the Gospels of the Life of Christ.
I can thank the Lord over and over because the AA gave me a hertiage of "a beautiful family in Christ" and also gave me a foundation to study and love the Word of God and also gave me "structure" to form Character.
Sure, some say" what character did the GB have?.WHAT CHARACTER DO YOU HAVE WRITING ALL THIS IN THE BLOGS AGAINST GOD'S ANNOINTED. ' THEY TELL ME IAM JUST GOSSIPPING'.
GOSSIPPING I WAS ONCE TOLD BY A BRAVE AND PRAYER WARRIOR, GOSSIP ARE LIES.
AND I DO NOT CARE ONE BIT IF YOU CALL IT LIES AND GOSSIP. IF IT BOTHERS YOU WEAR THE BOOT.....
OR THROW IT AWAY...

Well what were they "taught at home by their parents? What did they experience in their family life?. Was it a real true dedicated GOD FEARING family?. Was the father a "tyrant with them and their Mom.? Did the Mother go to "heaven prematurely because of the Father's Machismo and Patronizmo"?
There are "only" three TYPES OF ESCAPES FROM A MACHISMO CONTROLLED
HOUSEHOLD FOR A WOMAN;
1-divorce, insanity, as an escape and death. Many chose death.

So what did our parents give us and the GB that are in the Ministry?
What has made The GB so money hungry and so greedy and so "self righteous as a part of I.D. complex?
sALRIES FROM THE gb AND sALARIES FROM THEIR CHURCHES.
No GB Member should Pastor a church at the same time. This should be in the Constitution?
Two much money and it goes to their HEADS.
They were poor, so they do not know how to "handle" the money. They become greedy and even take the inheritance from the children of parents that have "gone with the Lord.
So this I had to write about..
NOT TO DESTROY, BUT TO ENLIGHTEN THE ROAD FOR THE 'FUTURE' OF THE AA.
You must have read on that "young man that was abused at a Youth Camp?
In a Church oriented Youth Camp?. Where his parents sacrificed so much to have that young men and others "escape" the gang and homies outside the Church.

To have that young man and many other, believe me Brother horribly "molested" and the GB laughed at me...Called me "OVER-REACTING".
Well when three or more I do not know , REALLY HOW MANY, young full of life young men died. Even then nothing was done about it.
The Fathers of those young men that died. DID NOTHING. IT WAS TOO 'ENVOLVED' BUT MY GOODNESS DO IT TO SAVE THE OTHERS. The innocent coming up youth and the juniors. But No they do nothing...
Believe me, I tried. I went with Brother Jose Ortega and confronted the GB. and they told me "get out."

Because we learn from our own "Past in order to Know the present and the "Future"and from the AA mistakes.

It has been said. "Experience comes from "bad judgement" and
good judgement comes from experience.
From becoming so "Self righteous and super Supremacy." that we forget to even "greet our brothers and sisters>
AND LET US NOT EVER FORGET THE 'POWER OF THE PODIUM SYNDROME'
A "LA DANIEL JAUHALL AND ADAM LOPEZ SYNDROME. THEY TAUGHT THEM WELL. "Bashing Women" They were the heores of the "Past". No education at all and writing all those "copied books' from other authors with no credit on the "real authors".
BECAUSE WE WERE 'SO CONDITIONED' AND 'BRAIN WASHED, SO CONTROLLED, SO MUNIPULATED. THAT WE FORGOT 'CALVARY AND THE GREAT SACRIFICE GOD DID FOR US.' THAT BLESSED GIFT OF SALVATION"


WE ARE SO CONTROLLED AND MUNIPULATED AND MACHO MAN 'BRAIN WASHED' THAT WE CAN NOT EVEN THINK ON 'CALVARY AND JESUS' SOON COMING.
THAT IF WE DID NOT GET A , MACHISMO, PATRONISMO AND NACIONALISMO SO CALLED SERMON OF 'BEATING' WE WOULD NOT BE SATISFIED.

We have the "battered" wife syndrome that if we do not "get a sermon, UJPC and AA sermon,,,bashed, basshed and bashed we do not feel complete and loved. ?????WHY IF HE DOESN'T BEAT ME WHO WILL BEAT ME THEN...

OH MY GOD HELP US.....HAVE YOU HEARD ABLE AGUILAR 'SCREAM' GIVE ME A J GIVE ME J GIVE ME A J.
HOW SCRELIGOUS....

I REMEMBER SPECIFICALLY , RICHARD ALMARAZ, GOD REST HIS SOUL. HE HAD 'THE POWER OF THE PODIUM IN ANAHEIM ON NOTHING BUT 'WOMEN'S MAKE UP'. TELL ME MY DEAR BROTHER WHAT DOES THIS EDIFY THE CHURCH. .
ALL THE SISTERS WERE TAKEN INTO A BLESSINGS. TO SHOW THE AUDIENCE THAT THEY WERE 'BEING BLESSED' BY THE LORD AND NOT CONDENM, NOR REBELLIOUS.'
If anyone would get "up and confront" Those Power of the Podium" Know Nothing Evangelists, that "bash Women,AND SCREAM TILL WE THINK THEY WILL DROP.,with their 'so call" sermons.

They become full of "rage and machismo syndrome because they do not pray nor study the word of God, to present the "true word of God. TEE TIME IS AN ADDICTION TO THEM. TOTALLY AND COMPLETED ADDICTED. AND THEY CALLED 'HEROIN AND COCAINE AND ADDICTION. THIS TOO TTEE TIMES IS AN ADDICTION. ITS A VERY EXPENSIVE ADDICTION YOU ALL HAVE ON TITHES AND OFFERING MONEY...

BROTHER ANTONIO..THIS IS TRULY NOT FOR YOU...IAM JUST BEING INSPPIRED BY THE LORD...PLEASE BELIEVE ME. ITS SO UNFAIR. THAT MANY OF OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS WORK SO HARD IN MINIMUM WAGES.JOBS ETC., FOR THESE 'GALLOS' TO BE HAVING 'TEE
TIME' INSTEAD OF 'PRAYER TIME'.

Wow someone is 'screaming at me" No I do not think golfing is a sin. But these Pastors should not be so "legalist" that some one can not even wear "shorts' to go to dinner with family or friends, while these Pastors were "shorts:"
for TEE Time. See what I mean.?

The 'DOUBLE STANDARD"...

If anyone would "actually" confront them. The 'ENTIRE AUDIENCE WOULD ATTACK THAT PERSON WITH THE COURAGE TO MAKE A CHANGE.'

FIRST OF ALL SOMEONE WOULD GET UP AND DO THE SAME OF 'SCARY TACTICS'
"Thus saids the Lord"
Start rebuking that person and litering "condmn to Hell."
THE UPC IS FAMOUS FOR THIS.......
'THUS SAIDTH THE LORD' THE LORD ALREADY SAID IT MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS''''
ITS ALL IN THE WORD OF GOD. AND HE IS COMING VERY SOON...
ARE WE READY.?
Well rememember we are "Saved by Grace and not by Works."


Iam told I have alot of "hate and bitterness. Yes, I sure do...For the many of our beloved brothers and sisters that have left us. To many other denaminations like the UPC Hispanics., only to get the "same old bashing".and same "only spanish" that they "running away from at the AA.

That's why my dear Brother we are in the "situation" we are in"/

We are"scared stiff" to be rebuked and to be "shunned" as the "Amish Community" "shun" their members if they fail to perform to the "Laws" of the Amish Culture.

I recommend for every single Apostolic and EVERY UPC ON LINE.....to go to Block Buster and get the video. "BURNING FIRE WITH PATTY DUKE'". See the Amish Culture in action..."shunning, Shunning, same Old Apostolic Tactics" AND UPC. TO induce "fear".
"shunning at its FINEST force".

God bless you.

Factsonly1 said...

IRS? Yeah right. Sure, I beleive you. What a liar! No IRS is coming over. There are no audits. Nothing. The only audits will be against those who dare challenge the men of God.

For all the discords you are cauing in the church, with all the divisions, you'll are only digging yourself a deeper hole in the pits of hell.

The last I checked, the men of God are still in power. They are un-touchable because they have the annointing.

Your secular humanistic thinking will only get you into hell. All you people with your secular humanistic degrees from Arizona State, Yale, Harvards, Fuller, are not doing anything for the church of God. Your evil is destroying a great and mighty movement started at Azusa Street.

sola dei gloria said...

Factsonly1 (sam)

Secular Humanism is a way of thinking and living that aims to bring out the best in people so that all people can have the best in life. Secular humanists reject supernatural and authoritarian beliefs. They affirm that we must take responsibility for our own lives and the communities and world in which we live. Secular humanism emphasizes reason and scientific inquiry, individual freedom and responsibility, human values and compassion, and the need for tolerance and cooperation.

Your'e way off.

nonanonymous said...

sola

per your 1 Samuel post:
so who is "ebenezer" and what or where is 'ashdod"?

you probably wont respond, huh gloria?

beth

sola dei gloria said...

nonanonymous (Beth)

I Samuel is meant to illustrate the current condition of the Apostolic Assembly. Not all of the components are applicable.

sola dei gloria said...

Factsonly1 (sam)

So all of our doctors that earned degrees from a secular institution are from the devil?

truth said...

factsonly1

well since you know a lot of what the GB is going to do tell me something...What are they gonna do? Take our credentials and descomulgarnos maybe that'll be a good thing..but i dought it they preach so much but they live opposite.
they preach about love,compassion,patience, and so much other things but they can't handle their own and what do i mean, love,compassion,patience we know they don't have any of that otherwise they would've never done what they did to all the Pastors that got lynch..i just can't believe they still preach about the color of your hair or how short it is or that you can't wear rings, but the truth is that they all wear rings in their local churches thats why they grow so much because there is no limitations but other Pastors try to still be conservative and guess what their churches don't grow.
HOW ABOUT ALL THE BISHOPSWIFES WITH NO WHITE HAIR, IS THAT DOUBLESTANDARDS OR WHAT..people open your eyes please the AA is not going to SAVE you it's GOD so wether you are an AA or independent just believe in GOD and he will SAVE you...
Sanchez with all that history you got I can't believe all the dirt you are spreading around, you should just resign with all your GB coronis.

nonanonymous said...

thought for the day said:

I am also not Sal Mendoza, nor Ruben Romero, Nor Andy Provencio, Daniel Jauhall's pet.
NOW BROTHER JUNIOR GARCIA THAT 'TRIED TO PREACH' IN ANHEIM ON 'HOMOSEXUALITY ON THE APOSTOLIC ASSEMBLY. HE WAS MOP PRESIDNET. BUT ARIEL MEZA WHO WAS A VERY EVIL PERSON AND WOULD 'CONTROL THE MICROPHONES 'TURNED; THE MICROPHONES COMPLETELY OFFFFFF AND THE NOICE WOULD SCREEEEEKKKKK AND IT WAS JUST AWFUL. IT WAS THEN THAT THE FLORS WERE BEING FORMED 'BIG TIME'
AND VALIENT BROTHER JUNIOR GARCIA BEING MOP PRESIDENT WAS 'COURAGEOUS' ENOUGH TO PREACH OPENING ABOUT IT , BUT ARIEL MEZA TOOK CARE OF THAT........WONDER WHY??? THE SO CALALED DOCTOR WAS IN IT 'BIG TIME' AND THE UNION CITY CHICKENS.
You know I just "tipped the HUGE ICE BERG.. so leave it at that.

there it is!! i didnt missunderstand you thought for the day! i had been trying to get you to elaborate about your previous posts. you either ignored my questions or...?

lmao!! UNBELIEVABLE, BUT YET SO BELIEVABLE!!

LL said...

Nonanymous,

I remember Jr Garcia, I think he was one of my favorite presxidents.

factsonly1 said...

To All bloggers:

Please notice the carnality Scotty
shows in his posts. This is the Leader of the revs 4 injustice. If this is the leader and the carnality he expresses, imagine how much more carnal his followers are. They show no sense of spirituality. They are a shame.
And a greater shame is for some of the plaintiffs and former AA pastors to affiliate with them. This is how low they have come.

To the impostor who keeps using my blog name. You are a liar and use tactics of Satan. You have no fear of God since you lie and say you speak in front of God. God will deal with you. These are the tactics of revs. of injustice.

You are being expose for who you really are.

sola dei gloria said...

Whatever happened to Junior Garcia. Didn't he go by Rod.

factsonly1 said...

The real factsonly1 will never insult the GB or bash the AA.

The real factsonly1 has only one hero, Jesus Christ!

These other people put their trust in men (as their heros), but the Bible says cursed is the man who puts his trust on man.

Think and think again said...

Sola de la Gloria de quien?

We are not saying that on the Doctors' We are only saying "Only the ones that are Florazluers?
Check on their credentials from Duke???
Pero a ti no te importa nada tu andas en "otra onda".....You know
nothing "Doctora????

Keep loving the Gb.

nonanonymous said...

thought for the day,

you said: They have been exposed and they "still SHOW THEIR PERVERTED FACES AT THE CONVENTION...THEY HAVE 'RIDDLES' TO SPEAK TO EACH OTHER

What do you mean by 'riddles'?

The AA has always been full of incest and pedophilia! I am in my mid 30's and i can remember it since i was a kid in the AA.

i have been a member of at least 4 different churches that have silenced this. the most recent one a couple of years ago. does anyone want to know what church that is? i went to one of the pastors and nothing was done. one of the people doing this still smugly sits in the pews! even the now independent church. they got away with it in the AA and now in the independent church one of the plaintiffs has established. what difference does it make? they (the leaders) are STILL pretending nothing is wrong. blind eyes and deaf ears!

AA/upc/ recently ex-communicated independent/ independent= all the same. they all care about what you look like not the inside! double standards! no differant than anyone else that they call "worldy "or "backslidden"!

sola
Thanks for the response. getting a response from you is like pulling teeth. lol

nonanonymous said...

ll,

why was he one of your favorites?

Skotty Will Show You said...

Skotty Will Show You said...
TeeTime...

Isnt This Kinda like The Pot Calling The Kettle Black??

YOu try to expose me yet you are anonymous yourself...

"For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye."

Matthew 7:2-5


If you Want To Make A point...
step out and be bold as I AM

IM NOT THAT ANONYMOUS... I WAS BEHIND THE CAMERA...

Thank you ...

SKOTTY

September 2, 2008 1:30 AM



LOL im sooo Carnal???

hahaha USING SCRIPTURES IS CARNAL NOW... HAHAHAHAHA

FAX... U SHOULD BE A COMEDIAN... OH WAIT .. YOU ALREADY ARE!!!!!

LL said...

Sola de G.
yes, he did go by Rod(from Puerto Rico) . I believe he still an attorney . I heard he still lives in California.

Thought for the day said...

nonanonymous:
In a convention in Anaheim years ago..I will not count.
Brother Roger Garcia Junior , then MOPP was "attemting to preach" on the topic of the "epidemic of homosexuality" that was invading the AA.
But "controlling" the P. A. system was no other but -- the evil man of Ariel Meza, co-Pastor now in Santa Ana with GB Abel Aguilar, his brother in law.

Follow me please...I know you baited me..
The mocrophones went WILD.....skreeeeching and of and on and on and offfff. It was horrific. No one came to the "rescue" of Brother Junior Garcia. I guess microphoes have a way of intimating people for every one will "glare" at them...

But Ariel Meza, being a Meza and they were in their "hey" days, as Mezas...munipulated and controlled the microphones, even with Choirs...and soloists.

It was horrible. He was evil and still is Iam sure. Welll I wonder why Ariel did not want to hear the 'then epidemic on homosexuil;ty" in the Church?
Wonder why???????

Anyone one could see the "cloud" creeping in with the now called by the "blogs "florazuers" We could see the Union city gallos being victimized and of coursed the so called Doctor, candidate from Duke..And others from Chicago. they were definately victims.

Anyway I saw HM and D I won't elavorate...

But there were------ "NO "guys in the lobbies of the Hotels after the services. All beautifully well dressed young ladies...But "NO--- guys...So MOPP Brother Junior Garcia , being very consecreated and intelligent was trying to "give an alarm...

He got 'bigtime black-balled and he and others many many many other beautiful married couples left the AA thanks to Danile Jauhall blackballing them...

Ask Abel Aguilar he was "runnning like a little beaver" even was told by Jauhall whom to marry...

Brother Jauhall never became President and we have Ex.Presiding Bishop Baldemar Rodriguez, he saved the AA from the jAWS OF jAUHALL.


READ THE LETTER ON LETTERS THAT Brother Jauhall wrote on Why No revival???That's why my dear Brother Jauhall, why no Revival..
You were part of that conspiracy.. for the Messengers of Peace.

Now I AM SURE THE GB DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THE EPIDEMIC EVADING THE AA. THEY WERE ALL IN THE SAME NEED OF EVANGELINZING .

Iam saying that there was so much blackballing from Brother Jauhall he forgot the real reason of Salvation and Calvary and Jesus soon to come.
He was also much to blame on what is going on now, ON THE FRAUD AND GB PROBLEMS. AND 'BASHING ON WOMEN.
Iam sure he has repented because he is one of the supportors on the Plaitiff.
Once not there...lets destroy. Its is just "not fitting' Not fitting.

The fraud and the lies and the humanist part of our Culture, the Machismo...the "controlling of their wives. Making them "old" before their time while they parade as "catrinos".
Well dressed , up to date. while their wives look like The Little House in the Praire attire...

Double Standard?. Its just not 'fitting, not fitting....

I hope this "gossip" that is nothing but the truth can give you all "some Past enlightening."""
Learn from that..Keep your eyes "wide open" in the convention protect our boys..


God bless all of you. "Dare to be a Gedion"

God bless you..I love you brother Jauhall and I forgive you too. We all forgive you..

Remember everyone we are "saved by Grace and not by Works.

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Skotty Will Show You said...

btw ... to whomever made the video...

HA HA


first off if you are going to put a video camera infront of ANY shiny OBJECTS... Make Sure Your Face IS NOT visible through the Reflection...

btw NICE DARK MUSIC YOU USED...
ALTHOUGH ALL OF MY VIDEOS WERE RIDICULED FOR HAVING A STRING QUARTET... IM SURE THE
GB PRAISED YOU FOR THE MUSIC...

BUT just FYI...

GOOD TRY...

VIDEO 5/10 -To Blurry, And You Need To do further research... who is jose?... how could he be skotty? i need more info dude!

Audio 6/10- Good Choice Of MUSIC although it was not fully synchronized all that well, Dark MUSIC yet Your Video Is Supposed to be A GLORIOUS video... i mean u did just figure out who skotty was right?


so overall you need to work on clearing up your vids. or atleast upload them to youtube with the HIGHEST QUALITY setting. btw.. lack of narraration kinda killed it... words on the screen were not there long enough... im not a speed reader and i doubt that most ppl were able to read what it said...
so your video pretty much juxtaposed itself...
DARK MUSIC yet a Glorious Message.. right???
i mean you were happy that you found out who skotty might be... right?? yet the dark music Cancelled out that feeling... which is why most people took it as a joke...including myself...


so overall your video gets a
d- .. dont worry you didnt fail but you were on the boarder...


-SKOTTY

btw.. thanks for the new slogan...

ALWAYS ORIGINAL
NEVER COPIED...

called2proclaim said...

STAY UP Skotty!
looking forward to CONVENTION.......

Skotty Will Show You said...

I find it FUNNY that facts only came on after what he calls "an impostor" got on using his name...

so.. is that ALL YOU DO EVERYDAY FAX??

YOU WAIT AND READ WHAT EVERY1 ELSE POSTS... THEN YOU POST HOW YOU FEEL ... THEN YOU CHANGE YOUR POSITION AND SAY THAT "AN IMPOSTOR"
WAS TALKING FOR YOU???

Skotty Will Show You said...

Thanks For Taking Over THE bLOGMASTERS position Fax...

thank you for monitoring what everybody discusses!

nonanonymous said...

thought for the day

you have to elaborate...you absolutely must! otherwise, how will anyone attempt to "fix" this? you need to let those names be known. all the victims didnt and dont have a voice. and people just pretended and kept quiet. are you one of these people still?? ARE YOU REALLY GOING TO JUST GIVE HALF OF THE TRUTH?? ARE YOU REALLY TRYING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE?? ARE YOU GOING TO BE LIKE ALL THE OTHERS?? YOU WILL BE JUST AS ACCOUNTABLE...YOU KNEW/KNOW ABOUT IT AND JUST GIVE "SOME TRUTH".

like i posted earlier...all the same. whats the damn difference? yeah i said DAMN!!

LMAO!!! UNBELIEVABLE YET SO BELIEVABLE!

nonanonymous said...

thought for the day

you have to elaborate...you absolutely must! otherwise, how will anyone attempt to "fix" this? you need to let those names be known. all the victims didnt and dont have a voice. and people just pretended and kept quiet. are you one of these people still?? ARE YOU REALLY GOING TO JUST GIVE HALF OF THE TRUTH?? ARE YOU REALLY TRYING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE?? ARE YOU GOING TO BE LIKE ALL THE OTHERS?? YOU WILL BE JUST AS ACCOUNTABLE...YOU KNEW/KNOW ABOUT IT AND JUST GIVE "SOME TRUTH".

like i posted earlier...all the same. whats the damn difference? yeah i said DAMN!!

LMAO!!! UNBELIEVABLE YET SO BELIEVABLE

nonanonymous said...

thought for the day

you have to elaborate...you absolutely must! otherwise, how will anyone attempt to "fix" this? you need to let those names be known. all the victims didnt and dont have a voice. and people just pretended and kept quiet. are you one of these people still?? ARE YOU REALLY GOING TO JUST GIVE HALF OF THE TRUTH?? ARE YOU REALLY TRYING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE?? ARE YOU GOING TO BE LIKE ALL THE OTHERS?? YOU WILL BE JUST AS ACCOUNTABLE...YOU KNEW/KNOW ABOUT IT AND JUST GIVE "SOME TRUTH".

like i posted earlier...all the same. whats the damn difference? yeah i said DAMN!!

LMAO!!! UNBELIEVABLE YET SO BELIEVABLE

LL said...

Thought4tday

I remember that convention! The System was LOUSY! I was sitting in the front .
If it's the one I'm thinking I believe Gaddi Vasquez mentioned the next day that they had to fire the person in charge.

nonanonymous said...

Thought for the day said...
nonanonymous:
In a convention in Anaheim years ago..I will not count.
Brother Roger Garcia Junior , then MOPP was "attemting to preach" on the topic of the "epidemic of homosexuality" that was invading the AA.
But "controlling" the P. A. system was no other but -- the evil man of Ariel Meza, co-Pastor now in Santa Ana with GB Abel Aguilar, his brother in law.

Follow me please...I know you baited me..
The mocrophones went WILD.....skreeeeching and of and on and on and offfff. It was horrific. No one came to the "rescue" of Brother Junior Garcia. I guess microphoes have a way of intimating people for every one will "glare" at them...

But Ariel Meza, being a Meza and they were in their "hey" days, as Mezas...munipulated and controlled the microphones, even with Choirs...and soloists.

It was horrible. He was evil and still is Iam sure. Welll I wonder why Ariel did not want to hear the 'then epidemic on homosexuil;ty" in the Church?
Wonder why???????

Anyone one could see the "cloud" creeping in with the now called by the "blogs "florazuers" We could see the Union city gallos being victimized and of coursed the so called Doctor, candidate from Duke..And others from Chicago. they were definately victims.

Anyway I saw HM and D I won't elavorate...

But there were------ "NO "guys in the lobbies of the Hotels after the services. All beautifully well dressed young ladies...But "NO--- guys...So MOPP Brother Junior Garcia , being very consecreated and intelligent was trying to "give an alarm...

He got 'bigtime black-balled and he and others many many many other beautiful married couples left the AA thanks to Danile Jauhall blackballing them...

Ask Abel Aguilar he was "runnning like a little beaver" even was told by Jauhall whom to marry...

Brother Jauhall never became President and we have Ex.Presiding Bishop Baldemar Rodriguez, he saved the AA from the jAWS OF jAUHALL.


IS THIS ALL YOU ARE GOING TO SAY?? YOU WONT ELABORATE?? YOU JUST WANNA THROW IT ALL UNDER THE RUG STILL?? THEN YOU ARE JUST THE SAME!! IF YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE THEN MAKE IT!! DONT BE WRITING HALF OF THE TRUTH!! AND EVERYONE WONDERS WHY WE ARE SO FUCKED UP?? YEAH I SAID THE "F" WORD...MAYBE MY LEADERS ARE TO BLAME??!!

nonanonymous said...

re-posted on purpose:


Thought for the day said...
nonanonymous:
In a convention in Anaheim years ago..I will not count.
Brother Roger Garcia Junior , then MOPP was "attemting to preach" on the topic of the "epidemic of homosexuality" that was invading the AA.
But "controlling" the P. A. system was no other but -- the evil man of Ariel Meza, co-Pastor now in Santa Ana with GB Abel Aguilar, his brother in law.

Follow me please...I know you baited me..
The mocrophones went WILD.....skreeeeching and of and on and on and offfff. It was horrific. No one came to the "rescue" of Brother Junior Garcia. I guess microphoes have a way of intimating people for every one will "glare" at them...

But Ariel Meza, being a Meza and they were in their "hey" days, as Mezas...munipulated and controlled the microphones, even with Choirs...and soloists.

It was horrible. He was evil and still is Iam sure. Welll I wonder why Ariel did not want to hear the 'then epidemic on homosexuil;ty" in the Church?
Wonder why???????

Anyone one could see the "cloud" creeping in with the now called by the "blogs "florazuers" We could see the Union city gallos being victimized and of coursed the so called Doctor, candidate from Duke..And others from Chicago. they were definately victims.

Anyway I saw HM and D I won't elavorate...

But there were------ "NO "guys in the lobbies of the Hotels after the services. All beautifully well dressed young ladies...But "NO--- guys...So MOPP Brother Junior Garcia , being very consecreated and intelligent was trying to "give an alarm...

He got 'bigtime black-balled and he and others many many many other beautiful married couples left the AA thanks to Danile Jauhall blackballing them...

Ask Abel Aguilar he was "runnning like a little beaver" even was told by Jauhall whom to marry...

Brother Jauhall never became President and we have Ex.Presiding Bishop Baldemar Rodriguez, he saved the AA from the jAWS OF jAUHALL.


IS THIS ALL YOU ARE GOING TO SAY?? YOU WONT ELABORATE?? YOU JUST WANNA THROW IT ALL UNDER THE RUG STILL?? THEN YOU ARE JUST THE SAME!! IF YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE THEN MAKE IT!! DONT BE WRITING HALF OF THE TRUTH!! AND EVERYONE WONDERS WHY WE ARE SO FUCKED UP?? YEAH I SAID THE "F" WORD...MAYBE MY LEADERS ARE TO BLAME??!!

September 2, 2008 4:58 PM

Factsonly1 said...

The speaking lineup has been released for the convention. The Lord will be delivering powerful and mighty messages through powerful and inspirational men of God. Bishop Sanchez, Bishop Maffey, Bishop Aguilar, Bishop Valverde, Bishop Del Campo followed up by a friday night double sermon by Bishop Sanchez and Bishop Pacheco.

All you young preachers and ministers need to attend to be inspired and learn from the great and mighty wisdom of these awesome and mighty men of God.

nonanonymous said...

re-posted on purpose:


Thought for the day said...
nonanonymous:
In a convention in Anaheim years ago..I will not count.
Brother Roger Garcia Junior , then MOPP was "attemting to preach" on the topic of the "epidemic of homosexuality" that was invading the AA.
But "controlling" the P. A. system was no other but -- the evil man of Ariel Meza, co-Pastor now in Santa Ana with GB Abel Aguilar, his brother in law.

Follow me please...I know you baited me..
The mocrophones went WILD.....skreeeeching and of and on and on and offfff. It was horrific. No one came to the "rescue" of Brother Junior Garcia. I guess microphoes have a way of intimating people for every one will "glare" at them...

But Ariel Meza, being a Meza and they were in their "hey" days, as Mezas...munipulated and controlled the microphones, even with Choirs...and soloists.

It was horrible. He was evil and still is Iam sure. Welll I wonder why Ariel did not want to hear the 'then epidemic on homosexuil;ty" in the Church?
Wonder why???????

Anyone one could see the "cloud" creeping in with the now called by the "blogs "florazuers" We could see the Union city gallos being victimized and of coursed the so called Doctor, candidate from Duke..And others from Chicago. they were definately victims.

Anyway I saw HM and D I won't elavorate...

But there were------ "NO "guys in the lobbies of the Hotels after the services. All beautifully well dressed young ladies...But "NO--- guys...So MOPP Brother Junior Garcia , being very consecreated and intelligent was trying to "give an alarm...

He got 'bigtime black-balled and he and others many many many other beautiful married couples left the AA thanks to Danile Jauhall blackballing them...

Ask Abel Aguilar he was "runnning like a little beaver" even was told by Jauhall whom to marry...

Brother Jauhall never became President and we have Ex.Presiding Bishop Baldemar Rodriguez, he saved the AA from the jAWS OF jAUHALL.


IS THIS ALL YOU ARE GOING TO SAY?? YOU WONT ELABORATE?? YOU JUST WANNA THROW IT ALL UNDER THE RUG STILL?? THEN YOU ARE JUST THE SAME!! IF YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE THEN MAKE IT!! DONT BE WRITING HALF OF THE TRUTH!! AND EVERYONE WONDERS WHY WE ARE SO FUCKED UP?? YEAH I SAID THE "F" WORD...MAYBE MY LEADERS ARE TO BLAME??!!

nonanonymous said...

thought for the day

IS THIS ALL YOU ARE GOING TO SAY?? YOU WONT ELABORATE?? YOU JUST WANNA THROW IT ALL UNDER THE RUG STILL?? THEN YOU ARE JUST THE SAME!! IF YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE THEN MAKE IT!! DONT BE WRITING HALF OF THE TRUTH!! AND EVERYONE WONDERS WHY WE ARE SO FUCKED UP?? YEAH I SAID THE "F" WORD...MAYBE MY LEADERS ARE TO BLAME??!!

Anonymous said...

ALERT ALERT ALERT!!!

The speaking lineup has been released for the convention! Lucifer will be delivering powerful and mighty messages through powerful and inspirational men of the Anti-Christ. The disqualified GB will be relaying what Satan asks of them to!

Friday night will be a double standard sermon by Sanchez and Pacheco.

All R4J and Skotty need to attend to video the truth and to further expose the lies of the GB!

This convention will be unlike any other, as the devil himself rears his head to the people of God (and the immigrants that actually attend after the GB proved it's racism for their own)

For such a time is this to learn from God the gift of discernment and see the great and mighty fall of these blind and self absorbed men.

Come see what happens when your super ego taints your ministry. There will be prime examples sitting directly on the platform.

From their mouths will come anger, stress, deceit, malice, and much more!

Anonymous said...

Was it just me or did that video of the supposed Skotty show a big fat head at the general offices making that video?

Look behind the picture..you can see the glare of the person and a computer in the picture.

A research team that clearly has no degree.

Anonymous said...

To the original factsonly1 (GB):

You are being exposed for who you really are.

Please notice the carnality the GB
shows in their recent wannabe video and exposes the general offices in the glare of the video. These are the leaders of the AAFCJ. If this is the leader and the carnality they express, imagine how much more carnal their followers are. They show no sense of spirituality. They are a shame.
And a greater shame is for those that affiliate with them. This is how low they have come.

To the original factsonly1 (GB) who keeps using this blog to defamate the plantiffs and all those leaving willingly. You are a liar and use tactics of Satan. You have no fear of God since you lie and say you speak in front of God. God has already began to deal with you and will continue to deal with you. These are the tactics of AAFCJ GB.

The ArchAngel said...

Signs of the Endtimes:

.http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1220186494776&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Are you waiting for the endtimes? You are ALREADY in it!!
REVELATION 9:13-18

Unknown said...

To nonanonymous :

I really don't like what is going on in the AA and it's leaders who have dragged down this organization.

Having said this, you are stooping lower than the GB by using profanity.

We are trying to have dialogue about the 2006 elections and yes a little bit of information from guys like Thought for the day, but this type of talk with cussing is a whole new low!!!

Get a life and go wash your mouth with soap.

The ArchAngel said...

Lets not forget about GOD'S apple, the Holy Land and the people of Israel. While their is conflict here in the AA, there are much greater and prophetic times that are right in front of us!! We are living in the Endtime days folks.
Be Watchful...........

nonanonymous said...

don said:

We are trying to have dialogue about the 2006 elections and yes a little bit of information from guys like Thought for the day, but this type of talk with cussing is a whole new low!!!

we?? this is the first time you blog...and you only blog about chastising me about my profanity??hahaha typical...figures! can you email me some soap??

nonanonymous said...

don

Brother or sister(as ya'll so fondly call eachother),do you honestly believe that your harsh/chastising/ugly approach towards me was any "better" than my cuss word??

its no wonder....im not trying to be evil/ugly/rude. its just that im not pretending anymore. im not gonna indulge any person that believes him/herself to be holy, when in reality you're no different than me or the next "sinner"!! capiche? me entiendes mendes o te explico federico? comprenez moi?


beth

Unknown said...

You tell me not to be judgmental, but are the one that is judging!

I don't judge you because God will do that.

Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved(reprobate) mind, to do what ought not to be done. Romans 1:28

Your light bulb is out!

nonanonymous said...

don

throw your bible at me because this will make my light bulb come on!!! lmao...typical,figures.

nonanonymous said...

don

no hard feelings right? after all, you are a christian right?
i'm not...but maybe after throwing alittle of YOUR scripture my way, i will become like you.

beth

Thought for the day said...

to nnnonanoymous:

What? I do not "elavorated"
What? again, I ask. You want a book.
Iam telling you the truth. I cannot elavorate any more because of "space". I already "write" such long blogs. I'm giving you "facts", places and "names.
That's the best I can do in a
little "tiny" square of a 'blob".

Iam giving you almost 100 years of history. I can only do this much of evavoration...in this little space.

Iam angry too.. But I will not "swear". I am not "pushing" anything "under the "rug" Iam getting it out of the "forgotten arcivies" of the AA to tell you young people that eventhough all this has been going on.
We need to "prevail" and fight from "within".There has always been evil does in the churches. But we have to follow and look at Christ. Iam telling you Iam not trying to write as if Iam "self-righteous" Iam writing to tell you all the "past' to learn why the GB used Fraud and deceit.
If you can't get it then Iam sorry.

Thank God for Brother Leybas. He has given us alot of "insight" too.

If you are "upset" and "angry" because I commented on somthing you did not want to know about. That you were in "denial" of. There are thousands, even my dearest friends, that love the AA and tell me they do not want to know. They are in "big denial". That is why the gb gets away with all this for years.

Because they know our fears,and the respect we have for the HOLY men of God..they sure evolved, but the women cannot.

The florsazuler have to be "rebuked" and out of AA.
What went on in Anaheim Hotel rooms has to stop. And we can pray for this to stop. By exposing them.
Sorry I stepped on your "denials."

Iam writing to the young men to look out for "wolves". Iam writing to the "Young evangelists that the "Double Standard" has been exposed on "bashing" Women.
That they need to "study the word of God, exegesis the scriptures from the "original" languages.
So they do not "preach" out of context.

To do their "Home work" before they come to "bash women" and men to be so modern because "they need to be to represent the "church" in modern attire...Good for them...
But the Women too should be left to be the way they are and not be "bashed."

Iam not 'gossiping". Gossiping is lying.
Again I say, "Expose the Past to understand the present and the future in Our church.

You want to "bait" me but PLEASE DON'T SWEAR...
THANK YOU. GOD BLESS YOU.
THIS IS THE 'BEST' I CAN DO UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES.
TO ELAVORATE MORE WOULD BE TOO LONG. IT'S ALREADY TOO LONG......

God bless you.

Thought for the day said...

Too ii:
Praise the Lord;
You were there in Anaheim.. Well I hope you remember "What brother Junior Garcia was "attemping" to preach...

The next day the GB had a "very extremly heated meeting with Ariel. They really let him have it.
He was the "one fired"....

Later on when Ariel Meza became tresurer of the District of Los Angles. He was "discoverd" to have had "stolen" from the tresure $5,000.00.
His brother Azael was and is very good friends with Daniel Ramirez.
Got in a lot of trouble, but his Father that was then Pastor in Santa Ana, may he rest in peace.
Bailed him out. Now he is co-pastor with Gb member Abel Aguilar, can you imagine...

Some can others can't.
But remember we all repent. "We are Saved by Grace and not by Works.'
Keep up the good work Ariel..I think he is about 55 years old.

Go For It said...

my mother has been an apostolic since she was 13 years old - back in 1928 - i was baptized since I was 13 - i've heard an lot and seen a lot and so has my mother, but we did not have the guts to speak out - back then you would be the devil and so on - this has been going on since then - i am so proud of all of you (pro or con) - you are doing what I wished I could do - education is something that the assembly did not promote because then you were asing the questions you are asking - thank God that all of you are doing something about it - please don't let anyone make you feel guilty - please help the young to continue educating themselves - I am so proud

Thought for the day said...

Cali Warrior:
Praise the Lord:

Why? Because the Lord loves us so much.. Because the Lord is hearing the prayers and accepting the fasting sacrifices of his people.

The church in Jerusalem went through the same "exodus."

Peter, James and Paul had a "big power struggle" Paul fighting for the Gentiles and Peter and James for the Jews. They got so tangled up on "foods' and cultural customs, and convenants that they
forgot "Christ" Paul even "rebuked" Peter for no longer eating of the food of the Corinths because "James" spies were present.

Its the same with us with the "Double Standard" The "wedding ring" that should have been approved "years" ago by the original Gb in the 30-40-50 etc., But power struggles and " wanna be me " enforcers' negated the use of the wedding ring.

But when "fancy cars" evolved that was not an extravagant expense.
Nor the 3 piece suits worn during the"great depression". But the Women had to "sacrifice" modern attire.

Well now, a very wise "Old Timer" Gb memember once told me.
"EL PASTORADO, CONSAGRA'. LA ADMINSTRACION DEVILITA'

See, if I can "translate this"
'THE PASTORSHIP CONSECRAATES.. THE ADMINISTRATION (gb) DISCONSECRATES>

But that is why I think of the "Double Standard, how the AA Doctrine has evolved...
Golfing is okay now.....When Brother Nava etc., would place someone playing ball in 6 months discipline (preuba).
But see it has evolved because mostly its a Man's (Pastor's game. Although I have heard some wives are "golfing" to with them.

With this "Excudus" The ones "lynched" will definately miss the other Pastors that "stayed behind". There is, I understand a great "rapport" from the inside AA Pastors to the ones that were forced to leave.

So the Plaintiffs will most certainly feel" the harsh,"separation". Many will "seek" God like never before and they will call unto the Lord for help and the Lord will hear them. "

"IF MY PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN CALLED BY MY NAME SHALL HUMBLE THEMSELVES AND PRAY AND SEEK MY FACE. THEN I WILL HEAR FROM HEAVEN AND FORGIVE THEIR SINS AND HEAL THEIR LAND."

There is a "Great Healing" being done. Alot of humility and consecreation. On behave of the Plaintiffs.

There is "renewal" going on with them. They have re-juvenated" they are "Preacdhing like in their youth".. I've been there with them..
It is wonderful....But it took this "trial and crises" to get them to this stage.

Sanchez, Valvederde, Pacheco,aand the rest of the GB. They are concentrating on "Survival" Every saingle day. They are restless., and some are very sick.
they are not at this "level" of consecreation...
"Never will" There is too much "hate and too much Power"
But wow when they will be humilated...
They better repent..

The Plaintiffs are "working" hard to stay together and Keep their members involved.
They HAVE TO. BECAUSE THE MEMBERS ARE Very Persuasive AND WILL LEAVE...
Same with the AA. We need to have this kind of reconciliation and humility to the Lord. And to seek His face, OTHER WISE THEY TOO WILL LEAVE.

THAT is why this convention is so important for the Gb. But they have lost it. They do not mingle with the members in this convention. They are "scared". They do not know "Where Henry, Where Scotty where nonanonymous and the likes that will approach them?
The Gb is afraid of being rebuke and stay away from "crowds"

They are afraid of "being confronted by some memember and "blogger" that will remind them of the ill they have cost to the Assembly and especially the Lord and his children.

Believe me they are "running scared". I have seen them.

They leave to their Hotel
rooms. while the dismissal Prayer is going on.

And they "get room service" they do not go to restaurants. Mostly they will go with "controlled Bishops from the district that the convention is being held so they can take them to "far off restaurants where the AA members will not be.

They are "really scared.""Believe me and then like Henry asked why don't they give it up?
Because $10,000.00 per MONTH PLUS THE CHURCH SALARY..THEY CANNOT GIVE UP THAT KIND OF MONEY...
That is what it all about money, and power and control and munipulation.

Where is the love of God for the Souls> What can we tells the New members in the Cellular groups and Los Encuentros...???
The members are in denial and the Pastors cannot afford to tell them,.


Good night. God bless you.

Thought for the day said...
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Thought for the day said...

Dear Go for it:
Praise the Lord:
Thank you for your comment...
I try to "reply" when I see the "comment" I miss alot of them so I do not reply.

Iam almost positive I know both you and your Mother. Please tell her to keep praying...This is God's Church and we are his children.
We love the AA and we love the brothers and sisters.
We do not want any to leave. But we must "know the past" so this GB can know that we know their tricks. of black-balling, discrediting and lynching..Its been done before you guys.

I have some wonderful friends that are closer to me than my own parents. So I love and fight for the AA. I have been talking about this for years. Many "run" they do not want to be black-balled too.

Yes. I know how it is to be "forced to be quite."
It was through my education, that I realize the importance of "speaking" out.

I encourage the youth to seek God first and education.

But to utilize that "education in the church...
But let me tell you the "truth" in the Apostolic Assembly. If you are educated "you will NOT be called to speak, or give conferences.

I remember so well the Medical Daughter of Ex. Presding Bishop Manuelito Gaxiola, who was one time in the "Dorcas" conference in Anaheim.
Her father told me later that Georgina and Santa Leon that are now to and have been for years being in a Fraudlent reign "forever". They otally and completely ignored Sister Miriam.
Did not introduce her nor acknowledged to speak.

She has had some experience of being "kidnapped" while doing Medical Work in Central America.

Her brother also, a great concert pianist was never utilized by the church, the AA nor with the Iglesia de Mexico.

I know Reverend Alfred Jose a Doctor of Ministry from Fuller Seminary, that has been ignored too.
Yet, look at his brother in -law Aguilar that so much has been said about and does not have a formal education is up in the GB without ever having been a Bishop.

Its the Georgina, Santa Leon and Franciscas type that they utilize. They are no threat to them.(gb) Look at Linda Montes here from California, Fresno area. No Education...

I know there are alot of wonderful sincere hermanas, that are ignored. Its the same...
That is why we are as we are.
To much envy and strive and hatred.

Sanchez, Valverde and especially Pacheco have no formal education.
Nor Abel.
But you see they 'claim" that the Apostoles did not have an education either.

But this is not true. All Jewish youngsters went to Hebrew School at the synagoge.
Also even Elijah had a school where those in ministry would study..For prophets.

Keep your prayers going for the Youth my dear brother or sister.
We will prevail in Jesus Name.

God bless you.

We must know the "past to see the present and to work for the "future."

Thought for the day said...
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Unknown said...

Dr. Gaxiola's daughter's name is Miriam and his son's name is Adoniram. They are both wonderful and educated people.

Just trying to help you out Thought for the day.

Anonymous said...

non anonymous,

Why are you on this blog ?

You said your not christian so why would you care about what is going on ?

What difference does it make to you ?

You talk about people judging why would you care if anyone judges you if your not christian and could care less ?

You sure are spending some precious time arguing with people you say are the same as you.

You got that very wrong !!!!!

We are the same as you only in that we have a fallen sinful nature.

The difference is we even though being sinners are washed by the blood of Christ and are redeemed because Christ is merciful not because we are better than you.

However if you reject Christ because we are hipocrite's and judges the you are the only one that will lose.

Rush said...

EVERY APOSTOLIC MUST VOTE FOR THE JOHN MCCAIN AND SARAH PALIN TICKET. THOSE WHO DON'T WILL BE EXCOMUNICATED JUST LIKE BALDOMERO RODRIGUEZ.

Anonymous said...

Who's Baldomero Rodriguez ?

Unknown said...

I think he may be a soccer player?
LOL...

truth said...

factsonly1
wow firt you were defending the men of GOD and now you are calling them fools,you should really watch it buddy, one thing is not agreeing with them and another calling them fools....
Henry any word on Barrientos trial.

LL said...

Rome

Rush, meant to say Baldemar Rodriquez. He was one of the aa president's.

LL said...

BlogMaestro

How many cities are on this blog now ?

truth said...

We might have to remind uor GB what the BIBLE says,that the rud of all evil is money... $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.They cuold preach about everything else but I have not heard them preached about this that the Apostol Paul sid..
unless ypur a broke preacher and your hating on some one that is doing good from their hard work...

truth said...

meant to say root of all evil

Factsonly1 said...

This is what the futuro holds for the DGB.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Rj1MdTpGy8&feature=related

truth said...

o k here it goes the info I was able to get from Dan Sanchez younger brother Steve Sanchez is that he was an Ordain Minister for his brother Dan for about 4 years.
first of all no one liked him in church because he was a really bitter person always a loner and his wife all she wanted to do was sing in the praise team but never helped the dorcas or anyone else on anything..
When Steve Sanchez lost his job he decided GOD was calling him to be Pastor decided to go to Imperial Valley where he could get a church no questions asked.
I guess he has been Pastor for about 3 years and already made ELDER but that's not surprising do to the fact that his brother is Bishop President and the other one is District Bishop..
So now what's next get Pastor Brrientos out of El Centro so Steve could go to El Centro where their dad was Pastor at one time..
some members at Dan Sanchez church and friends from around said that at one time Daniel Sanchez was going to to take Steve back to his church to be JR PASTOR but the most of the congregation didn't want him.
Probably Seve's own son Sergio don't want him there. By the way Sergio got married about 2 years ago and his wife already left him I believe she went to Las Vegas,I wonder if that's because Sergio had the same attitude daddy has.Also Steve has a daughter up North some where I wonder if Steve buts in her business like he did with his son Sergio.
but anyway I'll try to get more info on the disfunction Sanchez family I understand they got another brother in San Diego wich he is also a pastor I'll try to find out on him see if he is good or he is just like the rest of the Sanchez.

Unknown said...

To all the California Delegation of the 2006 elections:

Your vote doesn't count and we will soon be removing most of you as you are not qualified to be a pastor. We are planning on merging the smaller churches and missions into the larger churches.

Dear Apostolic Assembly members be ready to make longer commutes to attend church if you live in remote areas.

May God bless you,


The General Board


1 Pasadena
Pastor: Felipe E Velasco
2080 N. Fair Oaks Blvd.
Altadena, CA 91001
(626) 791-2965

2 Bethel Apostolic Church
Pastor: Gil Moreno
1112 N Homer St
Anaheim, CA 92801-2422
(714) 761-2812


3 Angels Camp
Pastor: Carlos T Nino
1734 S. Main St.
Angels Camp, CA 95222
(209) 943-1128

4 Antioch
Pastor: Juan A Navarrete
912 G St.
Antioch, CA 94509
(925) 777-1242

5 Baypoint
Pastor: Alejandrino Mendoza
47 Bella Vista
Antioch, CA 94565
(925) 755-8540

6 Apple Valley
Pastor: Samuel G Soria
11818 Slying Seather Rd.
Apple Valley, CA 92308
(951) 654-6781

7 Arvin
Pastor: Juan M Pinon
604 Haven Dr
Arvin, CA 93203
(661) 322-3821


8 Atascadero
Pastor: Jose R Benitez
9325 Borde Ave.
Atascadero, CA 93422-4139
(805) 461-3667


9 Avenal
Pastor: Carlos R Rodriguez
717 Skyline Blvd.
Avenal, CA 93204


10 Iglesia Apostólica "La Misión"
Pastor: Henry S Patino
235 N San Gabriel Ave
Azusa, CA 91702-3535
(626) 815-0319


11 Bakersfield
Pastor: Elias N Duarte
519 Mount Vernon Ave
Bakersfield, CA 93307-2438
(661) 327-2417

12 Bakersfield
Pastor: Robert S Chavarra
3637 Hughes Lane
Bakersfield, CA 93313
(661) 827-8110

13 Bakersfield - South West
Pastor: Juan Rodriguez
425 S. H St.
Bakersfield, CA 93304
(661) 444-9481

14 Apostolic Worship Epicenter
Pastor: George C Barbosa
14579 Pacific Ave
Baldwin Park, CA 91706
(626) 968-9919

15 Bell Gardens
Pastor: Guadalupe J Munoz
7812 Eastern Ave
Bell Gardens, CA 90201
(562) 862-3100

16 Puerta Del Cielo
Pastor: Mauro H Pereyra
8718 Cedar Street
Bellflower, CA 90706
(562) 630-9611

17 Bloomington
Pastor: Raul Chavez
10140 Vine St
Bloomington, CA 92316
(909) 875-4012

18 Blythe
Pastor: Alvin G Rodriguez
173 N Solano Ave
Blythe, CA 92225
(760) 922-7264

19 Brawley
Pastor: Stephen G Sanchez
1230 J St
Brawley, CA 92227-2825
(760) 351-8903

20 Banning
Pastor: Loreto C Beltran
80 N 8th St
Banning, CA 92220
(951) 318-6496

21 Beaumont
Pastor: Prospero Jacobo
690 Maple Ave
Beaumont, CA 92223
(951) 845-8772

22 Centro Cristiano Buena Park
Pastor: Marco A Angulo
7641 Ninth Street
Buena Park, CA 90621
(949) 232-6010

23 Burbank
Pastor: Justin Garcia
2811 N Glenoaks Blvd
Burbank, CA 91504
(818) 242-1551

24 Buttonwillow
Pastor: Paulo V Salinas
200 E. First St.
Buttonwillow, CA 93206
(559) 380-8920

25 Calexico
Pastor: Nicolas S Garcia
304 Encinas Avenue
Calexico, CA 92231
(760) 357-5275

26 Canoga Park
Pastor: Alfred Rodriguez
6914 Eton Ave
Canoga Park, CA 91303
(310) 671-2637

27 Carson
Pastor: Samuel A Martinez
1708 E Carson St
Carson, CA 90745
(310) 835-0401

28 Cathedral City
Pastor: Lucio Leon
69099 Dinah Shore Dr
Cathedral City, CA 92234
(760) 321-2077

29 Ceres
Pastor: Ezequiel D Barron
2813 Don Pedro Rd.
Ceres, CA 95307
(209) 312-1951

30 Chino
Pastor: Eliseo Ramirez
13170 Central Ave.
Chino, CA 91710
(909) 628-8232

31 Otay
Pastor: Isidro A Sepulveda
257 Tremont St
Chula Vista, CA 91911-4948
(619) 691-6232

32 Chula Vista # 3
Pastor: Jorge T Ley
632 Marsat Ct Ste A
Chula Vista, CA 91911-4688
(619) 423-2653

33 Chula Vista # 4
Pastor: Juan E Macias
456 5th Ave
Chula Vista, CA 91910
(619) 690-3545

34 Chula Vista - East
Pastor: Samuel J Mascareo
630 Corte Maria Ave
Chula Vista, CA 91910
(619) 427-9700

35 Clovis Apostolic Church
Pastor: Albert S Moya
410 Cherry Lane
Clovis, CA 93612
(559) 765-5790

36 Coachella
Pastor: Domingo Esparza
84947 Bagdad Av
Coachella, CA 92236
(760) 398-5226

37 Colton
Pastor: Richard G Luna
147 L St
Colton, CA 92324
(909) 824-7737

38 Grand Terrace
Pastor: Eddie J Campa
850 Via Lata, Suite 105
Colton, CA 93276
(909) 370-2055

39 Compton
Pastor: (none)
2343 E El Segundo Blvd
Compton, CA 90222
(310) 763-0793

40 Corcoran
Pastor: Benny G Tualla
2725 North Ave
Corcoran, CA 93212
(559) 992-8437

41 Corona "Strong Tower"
Pastor: (none)
1133 Railroad St
Corona, CA 92882
(951) 371-5488

42 Costa Mesa Apostolic Church
Pastor: Steve H Roman
610 W. 18th Street
Costa Mesa, CA 92627
(714) 774-1716

43 The Fellowship Of Covina
Pastor: Paul Hernandez
17880 E. Covina Blvd.
Covina, CA 91722
(626) 331-0371

44 Iglesia Apostólica
Pastor: Delfino Santana
100 N. 3rd Street
Covina, CA 91723
(626) 274-6589

45 Culver City
Pastor: Jorge E Rivas
4208 Centinela Av
Culver City, CA 90066
(310) 397-4219

46 Cutler
Pastor: Gilbert Y Balderas
12527 Amethyst Ave
Cutler, CA 93615
(559) 528-6535

47 Daly City
Pastor: Ben Flores
515 Winchester St
Daly City, CA 94014
(661) 725-5428

48 Delano
Pastor: Benjamin Diaz
1101 Albany St
Delano, CA 93215
(661) 329-9395

49 Desert Hot Springs
Pastor: Gregorio Sarmiento
12155 Little Morongo Rd.
Desert Hot Springs, CA 92240
(760) 409-9837

50 Dinuba
Pastor: Joseph L Arroyo
200 L St.
Dinuba, CA 93618
(559) 591-6748

51 Dos Palos
Pastor: (none)
8336 Christian Ave
Dos Palos, CA 93620
(209) 392-3623

52 Earlimart
Pastor: David Aguilar
1120 S. Front
Earlimart, CA 93219
(661) 637-5672

53 El Siloé Apostolic Christian Center
Pastor: Abel E Rodriguez
701 S Ferris Ave
East Los Angeles, CA 90022
(626) 274-6589

54 East Palo Alto
Pastor: Joe Prado
721 Donohoe St
East Palo Alto, CA 94303
(619) 463-9425

55 East Rancho Dominguez
Pastor: Jose G Vasquez
4238 E Compton Blvd
East Rancho Dominguez, CA 90221
(310) 637-6856

56 El Cajon # 1
Pastor: Daniel Contreras
514 S 3rd St
El Cajon, CA 92019-2514
(760) 337-5784

57 El Cajon # 2
Pastor: Trino V Renteria
772 S Johnson Ave
El Cajon, CA 92020
(619) 335-0376

58 El Cajon # 3
Pastor: Filiberto Hernandez
760 W. Palm Ave.
El Cajon, CA 92020
(619) 596-1737

59 El Cajon # 4
Pastor: Rafael H Osegueda
395 Ballantyne St.
El Cajon, CA 92020
(619) 997-4735

60 El Centro
Pastor: (none)
427 S Hope St
El Centro, CA 92243-2613
(760) 996-4425

61 Living Word Apostolic Church
Pastor: (none)
4434 Santa Anita Ave
El Monte, CA 91731
(626) 443-1128

62 Iglesia Apostólica De El Monte
Pastor: (none)
3924 Cogswell Rd
El Monte, CA 91732
(626) 442-3455

63 El Sereno
Pastor: Pedro Almejo
5244 S. Huntington Dr
El Sereno, CA 90032
(323) 841-9475

64 Echo Park
Pastor: Elias Z Arce
5244 S. Huntington Dr.
El Sereno, CA 90032
(323) 257-5024

65 Empire
Pastor: Jose F Barron
P.O.Box 920
Empire, CA 95319
(209) 538-3327

66 Encanto
Pastor: Jose L Cortez
6409 Imperial Ave.
Encanto, CA 92114
(619) 843-3456

67 Encinitas
Pastor: Samuel Valdez
925 Balour Dr
Encinitas, CA 92024-3946
(760) 781-5771

68 Escondido # 2
Pastor: Elias G Samano Sr.
995. Escondido Blvd.
Escondido, CA 92026
(760) 781-5771

69 Escondido # 1
Pastor: Philimon Anaya
1402 Lincoln Ave.
Escondido, CA 92026-3702
(760) 728-1717

70 Escondido #3
Pastor: Jesus Jimenez
731 W. 4th Ave.
Escondido, CA 92025
(760) 505-3044


71 Exeter
Pastor: (none)
255 S. Filbert St.
Exeter, CA 93221
(559) 592-5455

72 Fairfield
Pastor: (none)
1685 Sunset Ave.
Fairfield, CA 94585
(707) 720-7784

73 Fallbrook
Pastor: Rudy M Verdin
135 E Ivy St
Fallbrook, CA 92028-2054
(760) 518-8982


74 Farmersville
Pastor: Abraham Mendoza
514 Oakland
Farmersville, CA 93223
(559) 679-6735

75 Firebaugh
Pastor: Lorenzo B Alvarez
1066 "O" Street
Firebaugh, CA 93622
(209) 675-1706


76 Fontana
Pastor: Brigido A Leon
6954 Citrus Ave.
Fontana, CA 92316
(909) 429-8622

77 Fort Bragg
Pastor: Miguel Estrella
24521 N Highway 1
Fort Bragg, CA 95437-9537
(510) 471-9044


78 Fowler
Pastor: Benjamin C Carrillo
330 S 4th St
Fowler, CA 93625
(559) 834-5899

79 Fremont
Pastor: Samuel M Salazar
4251 Peratta Bl
Fremont, CA 94587
(559) 846-6474

80 Fresno # 3 - "A W C"
Pastor: (none)
3159 W McKinley Ave
Fresno, CA 93722
(559) 436-0573

81 Fresno "Kerman"
Pastor: (none)
11165 W California Ave
Fresno, CA 93706
(559) 846-6474

82 Fresno # 1
Pastor: Felipe Gaxiola
4546 E Thomas Ave
Fresno, CA 93702
(559) 251-5541

83 Fresno # 2
Pastor: Raymond Micro
110 N. Yosemite
Fresno, CA 93702
(559) 498-0640

84 Fullerton - "God's House"
Pastor: Abel Villanueva
598 S. State College Blvd #F16A
Fullerton, CA 92801-2611
(714) 449-1245

85 Fullerton - "Family Worship Center"
Pastor: Arthur Diaz
701 S. Lemon St.
Fullerton, CA 92832
(562) 699-4579

86 Gardena
Pastor: Gabriel R Adame
16421 Ainsworth Blvd.
Gardena, CA 90247
(310) 892-8047

87 Gilroy
Pastor: Miguel Arias
8603 Church St
Gilroy, CA 95020
(831) 675-0379

88 Gonzales
Pastor: Jose Medina
801 Center
Gonzales, CA 93926
(805) 343-2526

89 Grayson
Pastor: Ruben A Castillo
1420 Amalia St.
Grayson - Patterson, CA 95363
(209) 544-8790

90 Guadalupe
Pastor: (none)
893 Pioneer St
Guadalupe, CA 93434
(805) 343-2688

91 Gustine
Pastor: (none)
689 South Ave. #9
Gustine, CA 95322
(408) 644-0087

92 Family Christian Center
Pastor: Larry Salvador
15002 Clark Ave
Hacienda Heights, CA 91745
(626) 855-1100

93 Hanford
Pastor: Felix Luna
223 E 9th St
Hanford, CA 93230
(661) 834-1712

94 Harbor City
Pastor: Ruben U Lopez
25312 Belle Porte Ave
Harbor City, CA 90710
(323) 560-3296

95 Hayward
Pastor: Peter S Ybarra
28436 Harvey Ave
Hayward, CA 94544-5740
(510) 783-0144

96 Heber
Pastor: Amadeo Lopez
72 E. Main St.
Heber, CA 92243
(760) 336-9135

97 Hemet
Pastor: Luis Roman
140 Buena Vista St.
Hemet, CA 92544
(951) 660-1959

98 Hesperia
Pastor: Rutilo Q Borja
11022 11th Ave
Hesperia, CA 92345-2306
(760) 949-1176

99 Hollister
Pastor: John Benavides
153 5th St
Hollister, CA 95023
(714) 843-6191

100 Huntington Beach Apostolic Church
Pastor: (none)
8221 Newman Ave
Huntington Beach, CA 92647
(714) 843-6191

101 Huron
Pastor: (none)
16935 11th St. Bldg. C
Huron, CA 93305
(661) 565-8217

102 Imperial
Pastor: Juan R Bermudez
158 7th & J St
Imperial, CA 92251
(760) 342-4199

103 San Diego # 10
Pastor: Victor M Cortes
1439 Imperial Beach Blvd
Imperial Beach, CA 91932
(619) 262-5353

104 Imperial Beach # 2
Pastor: Daniel Ballon
455 Palm Ave.
Imperial Beach, CA 91932
(619) 247-2138

105 Indio
Pastor: Luciano M Montes
46601 Vargas Rd
Indio, CA 92201
(760) 342-4199

106 Templo Fuente De Vida
Pastor: Cipriano Serna
17601 Fitch
Irvine, CA 92614
(949) 724-1044

107 Joshua Tree
Pastor: Severo Vizcarra
6580 Arizona Ave
Joshua Tree, CA 92252
(951) 769-3540

108 King City
Pastor: Joel L Rubio
209 South Vanderhurst
King City, CA 93930
(909) 243-8860

109 Casa De Oración
Pastor: George Lopez
150 N Palm St
La Habra, CA 90631-4968
(714) 776-4693

110 La Mesa
Pastor: (none)
4463 College Ave.
La Mesa, CA 92115
(619) 227-7456

111 Iglesia Apostólica De La Puente
Pastor: (none)
15047 Amar Rd
La Puente, CA 91744-1912
(626) 963-4087

112 La Verne
Pastor: Oscar R Astorga
3660 "D" Street
La Verne, CA 97654
(626) 337-2813

113 Roca Eterna
Pastor: Porfirio A Rentera
23331 Moulton Parkway
Laguna Hills, CA 92653
(714) 242-2803

114 Lake Elsinore
Pastor: Philip Saenz
21020 Malaga Rd
Lake Elsinore, CA 92532
(951) 245-0124

115 Iglesia Apostólica
Pastor: Salvador Moreno
22600 Lambert St. Bldg. D
Lake Forest, CA 92630
(949) 472-8693

117 Lamont
Pastor: Joel H Olvera
8409 Panama Rd
Lamont, CA 93241
(661) 389-4110

118 Lancaster
Pastor: Humberto Yepez
773 E Avenue K12
Lancaster, CA 93535-4710
(661) 948-3918

119 Lathrop
Pastor: Genaro R Bernal
15074 5th St.
Lathrop, CA 95330-9444
(209) 604-4690

120 Le Grand
Pastor: Julian B Flores
13324 Woodrow St
Le Grand, CA 95333
(209) 389-4110


121 Lemon Grove
Pastor: (none)
9617 Campo Rd.
Lemon Grove, CA 91977
(619) 838-1810

122 Lemoore
Pastor: (none)
221 Fox St.
Lemoore, CA 93245
(559) 572-5190

123 Lennox
Pastor: Andres Mayoral
10906 S Inglewood Ave
Lennox, CA 90304
(310) 671-8860

124 Barstow
Pastor: Samuel L Torres
34380 Paris St.
Lenwood, CA 92311
(909) 721-1593

125 Lindsay
Pastor: Abraham Jiron
802 N. Standford
Lindsay, CA 93247
(805) 735-3281


126 Livermore
Pastor: Jose M Cota
2346 Walnut Ave.
Livermore, CA 94551
(925) 371-8380

127 Livingston
Pastor: Joe L Salas
810 Hammatt Ave
Livingston, CA 95334
(209) 394-4955


128 Lodi #1
Pastor: Steve G Montelongo
945 N Stockton St
Lodi, CA 95240-0627
(209) 570-9759

129 Lodi # 2
Pastor: Fred G Diaz
843 N. Sacramento St.
Lodi, CA 95240
(209) 369-3217

130 Lompoc
Pastor: Jose R Zamora
437 S I St
Lompoc, CA 93436
(661) 835-6936

131 Long Beach #2
Pastor: (none)
1000 E. Hill St.
Long Beach, CA 90804
(562) 591-6811
Homepage: (none)

132 Long Beach #1
Pastor: (none)
1333 Locust Ave
Long Beach, CA 90813
(562) 218-1841

133 Los Angeles "Monte Horeb"
Pastor: Audon Pelayo
9822 S. Vermont
Los Angeles, CA 90037
(213) 846-8839

134 Los Angeles "Aposento Alto"
Pastor: Eliseo Garcia
1640 W. Córdova St.
Los Angeles, CA 90042
(323) 257-0749

135 City of Terrace
Pastor: Jaime J Montenegro
3300 3rd.St
Los Angeles, CA 90063-1241
(323) 224-8360

136 Los Angeles "Peniel"
Pastor: Javier S Vasquez
8800 S Fir Ave
Los Angeles, CA 90002-1809
(323) 773-8242

137 Los Angeles "Fuente de Agua Viva"
Pastor: Mario Vasquez
5453 Alhambra Ave.
Los Angeles, CA 90032
(323) 227-6841

138 Los Angeles "Gethsemani"
Pastor: Ramon Damian
1500 N. 53rd Av
Los Angeles, CA 90042
(323) 939-8133

139 Los Angeles "Emmanuel"
Pastor: Val Jimenez
2450 Griffin Ave
Los Angeles, CA 90031
(323) 441-8547

140 Los Angeles "Casa De Dios"
Pastor: Carlos C Ceniceros
1328 E. Florence
Los Angeles, CA 90002
(714) 521-1965

141 Los Angeles "Roca de Salvacion"
Pastor: (none)
2330 Naomi Ave.
Los Angeles, CA 90011
(323) 231-0467

142 Los Banos
Pastor: (none)
501 F St
Los Banos, CA 93635
(209) 827-9011

143 Lynwood
Pastor: Jose M Soto
3801 Lugo Ave
Lynwood, CA 90262
(310) 631-1411

144 Madera (Mision)
Pastor: Rolando Villa
500 Sunset Ave
Madera, CA 93637
(559) 264-4482

145 Madera
Pastor: Gilbert Flores
16294 N D St
Madera, CA 93638-1642
(559) 674-1487

146 Maywood
Pastor: Eduardo Saucedo
5001 E 60th St
Maywood, CA 90270
(310) 491-6463


147 Mecca
Pastor: Francisco Quezada
91-140 6th St
Mecca, CA 92254
(760) 396-0626


148 Mendota
Pastor: Gabriel D Escobar
636 Juanita St
Mendota, CA 93640
(559) 655-3429

149 Menlo Park
Pastor: Arturo E Arias
965 O'Brien Dr.
Menlo Park, CA 94025
(209) 523-0104

150 Merced
Pastor: Joe A Aguilar
2427 E Santa Fe Ave
Merced, CA 95340
(209) 722-6142

151 Mira Mesa
Pastor: (none)
9380 Activity Rd.
Mira Mesa, CA 92126
(858) 967-2669

152 Modesto #2
Pastor: (none)
821 Lassen Ave.
Modesto, CA 95358-1084
(209) 523-0104

153 Modesto #1
Pastor: Martin T Amador
917 Sonora Ave.
Modesto, CA 95351
(209) 523-8614

154 Montclair
Pastor: Juan A Alegria
9950 Fremont Ave
Montclair, CA 91763-3222
(909) 261-5364

155 Monterey
Pastor: Juan M Zamora II
52 Soledad Dr.
Monterey, CA 93940
(831) 392-1549

156 Moorpark
Pastor: Raymond Aguirre
14494 Ave Colonia Ave
Moorpark, CA 93021
(805) 529-2144

157 Moreno Valley
Pastor: Ignacio Leon
23706 Meyer Dr.
Moreno Valley, CA 92518
(951) 259-6838

158 Moreno Valley
Pastor: Israel Carlos
24903 Sunnymead Blvd
Moreno Valley, CA 92553-3756
(951) 485-0074

159 Morgan Hill
Pastor: Tito Lopez
17666 Crest Ave
Morgan Hill, CA 95037
(408) 224-1305


160 Murrieta "House of Prayer"
Pastor: Victor E Lopez
35991 Capra Rd.
Murrieta, CA 92563
(951) 600-0805

161 Napa
Pastor: (none)
4149 Linda Vista
Napa, CA 94558
(707) 647-3848


162 National City # 2
Pastor: (none)
1806 D Ave
National City, CA 91950-5621
(619) 434-4741


163 National City # 1
Pastor: Ismael N Zaragoza
125 Palm Ave
National City, CA 91950-1719
(619) 474-5643

164 Newhall
Pastor: Rolando Murcia
23490 San Fernando Rd
Newhall, CA 91321
(818) 765-4217

165 Nipomo
Pastor: Agustin J Munoz
726 W Tefft St
Nipomo, CA 93444
(661) 344-8821

166 North Highlands
Pastor: Jose G Rivera
7031 Watt Ave.
North Highlands, CA 95660
(916) 991-4785


167 Hollywood - North
Pastor: Carlos R Alvarez
5122 Tujunga Ave
North Hollywood, CA 91605
(818) 885-1768

168 Monte Calvario
Pastor: Rogelio Rivas
16513 Horst Street
Norwalk, CA 90650
(562) 802-7073


169 Oakdale #2
Pastor: Moses Pacheco
233 East G St.
Oakdale, CA 95361
(209) 846-0826

170 Oakdale #1
Pastor: Manuel R Casas
185 East Ave.
Oakdale, CA 95361
(209) 847-4673

171 San Leandro Apostolic Church
Pastor: (none)
28295 Fox Hollow Ave.
Oakland, CA 94601
(510) 207-5952

172 Oakland
Pastor: (none)
3715 Foothill Blvd
Oakland, CA 94601-3629
(510) 534-1405

173 Oakland
Pastor: Victor M Sanchez
2336 14th Ave
Oakland, CA 94606-3228
(805) 481-1377

174 Oceano
Pastor: Rudy Rentera
1960 Warner St
Oceano, CA 93445
(661) 941-8217


175 Oceanside # 1
Pastor: John A Hernandez
2904 Macdonald St
Oceanside, CA 92054-4534
(760) 809-6534

176 Oceanside # 2
Pastor: Daniel C Perez
208 S. Clementine St.
Oceanside, CA 92054
(760) 419-0146


177 Ontario
Pastor: David V Jimenez
808 E Maitland St
Ontario, CA 91761
(909) 947-7629

178 Apostolic Church Of Orange
Pastor: Jesse E Rodriguez
259 S. Park St.
Orange, CA 92627
(714) 538-8422

179 Orange #2
Pastor: Alberto Torres
121 South Center
Orange, CA 92886
(714) 318-9749

180 Orosi
Pastor: Rodolfo R Solis
12589 413th Ave.
Orosi, CA 93618
(559) 591-8052

181 Oxnard
Pastor: (none)
2640 Alvarado St
Oxnard, CA 93030
(805) 485-4787

182 Pacoima
Pastor: (none)
13230 Van Nuys Blvd.
Pacoima, CA 91331
(818) 896-3840


183 Littlerock
Pastor: Andres T Franco
10238 E Palmdale Blvd
Palmdale, CA 93591
(661) 944-6935


184 Palmdale
Pastor: Jorge Gonzlez
924 East Ave
Palmdale, CA 93552
(661) 267-1223

185 Paso Robles
Pastor: Miguel C Alvarado
2706 Spring St
Paso Robles, CA 93446
(661) 281-2090

186 Perris # 1
Pastor: Sergio A Maffey
2003 Sunnysands Dr
Perris, CA 92570
(909) 943-7735

187 Petaluma
Pastor: Jesus Q Mendoza
2005 LaVonne Ave
Petaluma, CA 95116
(707) 888-2241

188 Phoenix - N. West
Pastor: Daniel R Picado
3210 NE Grand Ave.
Phoenix, CA 85033
(623) 363-2982

189 Jubilee Apostolic Tabernacle
Pastor: (none)
152 W Beechwood Ave
Pinedale, CA 93650
(559) 436-0244

190 Pittsburg
Pastor: Daniel S Moya
166 Sunset Way
Pittsburg, CA 94565-5426
(909) 656-3259

191 Pomona
Pastor: Efrain Ramirez
1382 S White Ave
Pomona, CA 91766
(909) 629-9340

192 Pomona "Rancho San Jose"
Pastor: Josue P Cristobal
2079 N Towne Ave
Pomona, CA 91767-2420
(909) 629-1733

193 Poplar
Pastor: Raymundo Z Huanaco
14524 Rd. 192
Poplar, CA 93258
(559) 920-2696

194 Porterville
Pastor: Francisco R Castro
448 N E St
Porterville, CA 93257
(661) 629-1733

195 Poway
Pastor: Mario E Alas
14034 Poway Rd. #5-J
Poway, CA 92064
(619) 921-3555

196 Ramona
Pastor: Samuel C Pacheco
421 9th St
Ramona, CA 92065-2322
(760) 315-1525

197 Rancho Cucamonga
Pastor: Benjamin D Guerra
8719 Center Ave
Rancho Cucamonga, CA 91730
(909) 980-3540

198 Red Bluff
Pastor: (none)
1321 Nelson Dr
Red Bluff, CA 96080-4412
(760) 787-9861

199 Redlands
Pastor: (none)
1205 Texas St
Redlands, CA 92374
(909) 792-5214

200 Redlands "Highest Praise"
Pastor: Lupe A Arroyo
721 Nevada St Ste 408
Redlands, CA 92373
(909) 335-2325

201 Redwood City
Pastor: Jesus A Valdez
1345 Hancock St
Redwood City, CA 94063
(909) 792-5214

202 Reedley
Pastor: Alfonso D Huerta
765 E. 11ST.
Reedley, CA 93654
(559) 638-5244

203 Reseda - East
Pastor: Jesus Villa
18403 Sherman Way
Reseda, CA 91335
(818) 886-8031

204 Reseda - North Hills
Pastor: Elias S Horta
7913 White Oak Ave.
Reseda, CA 91335
(818) 996-7037

205 Reseda - West
Pastor: Eber Pleitez
18363 Sherman Way
Reseda, CA 91335
(818) 665-9891

206 Ridgecrest
Pastor: Isai C Baeza
100 E. Dolphin
Ridgecrest, CA 93555
(760) 375-2440

207 Riverbank
Pastor: Efrain Amaya
6248 Jackson Ave.
Riverbank, CA 95367
(209) 869-5203

208 Riverside
Pastor: (none)
2997 Cottage St
Riverside, CA 92507
(951) 781-9103

209 Riverside "Arlington"
Pastor: John M Almaraz
5662 Crest Ave
Riverside, CA 92503
(951) 359-8448

210 Sacramento
Pastor: Everardo R Castro
7020 E. Parkway
Sacramento, CA 95823
(916) 686-5051

211 Salida
Pastor: Nathaniel Montez
5670 Pirrone Rd
Salida, CA 95368
(209) 480-6589

212 Salinas Apostolic Community Life Center
Pastor: Andrew S Lopez
180 Williams Rd
Salinas, CA 93905
(831) 422-4161

213 Salinas
Pastor: Jesus Varela
1104 Fontes Ln
Salinas, CA 93907
(415) 468-1652

214 San Bernardino
Pastor: Abel C Jimenez
1242 W. 6th St.
San Bernardino, CA 92411
(000) 000-0000

215 San Bernardino
Pastor: Eusebio Ceballos
179 E King St
San Bernardino, CA 92408-1120
(909) 381-2998

216 San Bernardino
Pastor: Felipe Lugo
7160 Glasgow Ave
San Bernardino, CA 92316
(909) 888-0704

217 San Bruno
Pastor: Manuel R Hermosillo
850 Glenview Dr.
San Bruno, CA 94131
(415) 269-0051

218 San Clemente Apostolic Church
Pastor: (none)
35522 Camino Capistrano
San Clemente, CA 92672
(714) 542-4462

219 San Diego
Pastor: Eliseo V Avalos
3771 54th St
San Diego, CA 92105-3209
(619) 338-8207

220 San Diego # 2
Pastor: Gerardo N Zaragoza
3060 Broadway
San Diego, CA 92102-2321
(619) 263-9017

221 San Diego # 5
Pastor: Gustavo Galaviz
4037 39th St
San Diego, CA 92105-1309
(619) 463-8919

222 San Diego # 1
Pastor: Jaime A Santos
611 S 35th St
San Diego, CA 92113-2717
(619) 323-0851

223 San Diego # 11
Pastor: Jorge I Ramirez
2885 Clay Ave
San Diego, CA 92113
(619) 263-9017

224 San Diego # 9
Pastor: Lazaro S Perez
4101 University Ave
San Diego, CA 92105-1418
(619) 702-6418

225 San Diego # 6
Pastor: Raul M Cardoso
6869 Tait St
San Diego, CA 92111
(619) 690-4947

226 San Diego # 12
Pastor: Roberto E Hernandez
4168 Market St
San Diego, CA 92102
(619) 702-6418

227 San Diego # 7
Pastor: Jimmy P Morales
3666 Madison Ave
San Diego, CA 92116-3627
(619) 282-3905

228 San Diego # 3
Pastor: (none)
3714 Teak St
San Diego, CA 92113-2856
(619) 266-1747

229 Casa de Oro
Pastor: Reynaldo F Pizano
2778 Sweetwater Spring Blvd. Suite #B
San Diego, CA 91977
(619) 300-7821

230 Imperial Beach # 1
Pastor: Josue M Bueno
1465 30th Street Suite F
San Diego, CA 92154
(619) 405-3343

231 San Diego # 13
Pastor: Julio C Roman
3628 National Ave.
San Diego, CA 92113
(619) 259-3994

232 San Diego #4
Pastor: Juan A Guardiola
1045 S. 29th St.
San Diego, CA 92113
(619) 419-7917


233 San Diego # 8
Pastor: Claudio P Zavala
3771 54th St.
San Diego, CA 92105
(760) 468-5673

234 San Fernando
Pastor: Victor O Prado
872 N Brand Blvd
San Fernando, CA 91340
(818) 361-6000

235 San Francisco
Pastor: Daniel D Nava
100 Felton St
San Francisco, CA 94134
(415) 468-1652

236 San Jacinto
Pastor: Freddy J Canizales
201 N State St
San Jacinto, CA 92583-3224
(909) 654-6778

237 San Joaquin
Pastor: Arthur M Gallardo
21700 California St.
San Joaquin, CA 93660
(559) 655-4033

238 San Joaqumn
Pastor: (none)
21700 California
San Joaqumn, CA 93660
(909) 654-6778

239 San Jose # 2
Pastor: (none)
77 N 5th St
San Jose, CA 95112
(408) 297-1273

240 San Jose # 3
Pastor: Joseph V Rodriguez
99 N Bascom Ave
San Jose, CA 95128
(408) 294-2257


241 San Jose # 1
Pastor: Andres Provencio
480 McCreery Ave.
San Jose, CA 95148
(408) 929-2764

242 Misión Apostólica En San Juan Capistrano
Pastor: Juan C Perzabal
31442 El Horno St.
San Juan Capistrano, CA 92675
(949) 855-7818

243 San Lorenzo
Pastor: (none)
18651 Via Toledo
San Lorenzo, CA 94580-3440
(408) 294-2257

244 San Marcos
Pastor: Gilberto Meza
256 Smilax Rd
San Marcos, CA 92069
(760) 727-6353

245 San Pablo
Pastor: Leopoldo R Gonzalez
1309 Rumrill Blvd
San Pablo, CA 94806
(760) 727-6353

246 San Pedro
Pastor: David C Martinez
399 w. 10th St.
San Pedro, CA 90731
(562) 422-5548

247 San Rafael
Pastor: Oscar M Esquivel
245 Bellam Blvd.
San Rafael, CA 94901
(415) 457-3141

248 San Ysidro
Pastor: (none)
3747 Sunset Ln
San Ysidro, CA 92173-3302
(619) 948-4034

249 Sanger
Pastor: (none)
1242 Olive Ave
Sanger, CA 93654
(559) 875-8977

250 Santa Ana Christian Tabernacle
Pastor: (none)
308 N Main St
Santa Ana, CA 92701-4853
(714) 543-3951

251 Iglesia Apostólica Santa Ana #3
Pastor: Felipe Hernandez
120 E Pomona St
Santa Ana, CA 92707
(714) 564-9339

252 Iglesia Apostólica Santa Ana # 5
Pastor: Heliodoro Guerrero
513 N. Bewley
Santa Ana, CA 92703
(714) 953-2835

253 Templo Betel
Pastor: Ruben D Villegas
702 N Minter St
Santa Ana, CA 92701
(714) 748-8442

254 Iglesia Apostólica Sion
Pastor: Leobardo A Maffey
525 E Myrtle St
Santa Ana, CA 92701-6015
(714) 953-5315

255 Iglesia Apostólica De Santa Ana
Pastor: Mario Landa
1501 W. Santa Ana Blvd.
Santa Ana, CA 92703
(714) 437-7182

256 Iglesia Apostólica Santa Ana # 6
Pastor: Victor M Munoz
201 S. Sullivan St.
Santa Ana, CA 92704
(714) 401-5927

257 Santa Barbara
Pastor: Oscar C Barbosa
2035 Bath St.
Santa Barbara, CA 93105
(805) 566-0902

258 Santa Cruz
Pastor: (none)
530 S Branciforte Ave
Santa Cruz, CA 95062
(805) 566-0902

259 Santa Maria
Pastor: (none)
400 Mary Dr
Santa Maria, CA 93458
(408) 423-7506

260 Santa Paula
Pastor: Celedonio Saldaa
116 Davis St
Santa Paula, CA 93060
(805) 525-1499

261 Santa Rosa
Pastor: Celestino S Madriz
1236 Milton
Santa Rosa, CA 95404
(805) 525-1499

262 Saticoy
Pastor: Anastacio Rubio
11163 Azahar St.
Saticoy, CA 93004
(805) 647-7920

263 Seeley
Pastor: Juan N Alvarez
1774 W. Hewes Hwy
Seeley, CA 92273
(760) 337-8805

264 Selma
Pastor: Robert A Velasco
2201 Knowles St
Selma, CA 93662
(559) 313-8029

265 Shafter
Pastor: Jose L Nino
30372 Richland Ave
Shafter, CA 93263
(661) 746-1528

266 South Gate 1
Pastor: (none)
5792 Main St
South Gate, CA 90280
(562) 633-1120

267 South Gate 2
Pastor: Joel Ledezma
4513 Tweedy Blvd
South Gate, CA 90280
(323) 771-0341

268 South Lake Tahoe
Pastor: Leopoldo Montejano
2733 Lake Tahoe Blvd.
South Lake Tahoe, CA 96510
(530) 544-2276

269 Spring Valley
Pastor: Rafael De la Mora
3310 Brancroft Dr
Spring Valley, CA 91977
(619) 461-0194

270 Stanton Apostolic Church
Pastor: Rogelio Roman
10591 Flower Ave
Stanton, CA 92680
(714) 397-4326


271 Stockton #1
Pastor: Abner Arias
116 W. Willow Ave.
Stockton, CA 95202
(209) 956-1933

272 Stockton #2
Pastor: Joe Mendoza
2222 Lever Blvd.
Stockton, CA 95206
(209) 478-8227

273 Sultana
Pastor: Juan Miranda
41505 Road 106
Sultana, CA 93666
(559) 595-1830

274 Menifee
Pastor: Robert Garcia
26805 Murrieta Rd.
Sun City, CA 92585
(951) 809-8454

275 Sun Valley
Pastor: Javier Cuevas
7607 Vineland Avenue
Sun Valley, CA 91352
(818) 764-3187

276 Taft
Pastor: (none)
102 4th Street
Taft, CA 93268
(661) 978-1788

277 Temecula
Pastor: Florencio Garcia
71710 Enterprise Circle South, Ste. F& H
Temecula, CA 92591
(909) 296-6798

278 Thousand Palms
Pastor: Francisco S Esquibel
31819 Robert Rd.
Thousand Palms, CA 92276
(760) 578-7293


279 Tulare #2
Pastor: Arturo A Alvarez
265 S. Lanfond Rd.
Tipton, CA 93272
(559) 686-5759

280 Torrance
Pastor: Hector Hernandez
1237 Sepulveda Blvd
Torrance, CA 97502
(310) 539-7027

281 Tracy
Pastor: Rogelio Bravo
10657 W Larch Rd
Tracy, CA 95304-1503
(209) 832-7282

282 Tulare
Pastor: Isaac H Cota
540 W Kern Ave
Tulare, CA 93274
(661) 688-2416

283 Turlock
Pastor: Ralph H Meza
232 Lander Ave.
Turlock, CA 95380
(209) 667-9470


284 Union City
Pastor: Adam Lopez
33700 Avarado Niles Rd.
Union City, CA 94587
(510) 489-0687

285 Upland
Pastor: Jorge A Pazos
814 Alpine St
Upland, CA 91786-4513
(909) 659-3480

286 Ventura
Pastor: (none)
1000 N Ventura Ave
Ventura, CA 93036
(805) 643-3387

287 Victorville
Pastor: Juan M Soriano
13265 El Rio Rd.
Victorville, CA 92392
(760) 955-2034

288 Phelan
Pastor: Guillermo R Pena
14211 Bonanza Rd.
Victorville, CA 92392
(760) 241-0823

289 Visalia
Pastor: Elias F Mosqueda
100 W. School St
Visalia, CA 93277
(559) 627-8313

290 Vista # 1
Pastor: Juan P Sanchez
310 Hacienda Dr
Vista, CA 92081-6707
(559) 627-8313

291 Vista - East
Pastor: Victor M Banuelos
1855 E. Vista Way #11 Vista
Vista, CA 92083-4961
(760) 731-3195

292 Vista #3
Pastor: Juan M Castro
305 W. California Ave.
Vista, CA 92083
(760) 295-7305

293 Wasco
Pastor: Jose A Seplveda
D & 16th St
Wasco, CA 93280
(661) 726-0451

294 Waterford
Pastor: Odilon V Rodriguez
601 C St.
Waterford, CA 95386
(209) 883-0697


295 Westchester
Pastor: Samuel L Angulo
8740 La Tijera Blvd.
Westchester, CA 90045
(323) 757-7601

296 Westmorland
Pastor: (none)
177 N. Center St
Westmorland, CA 92227
(760) 344-1595

297 Tabernáculo De Vida
Pastor: Daniel Sanchez
13223 Beaty Ave
Whittier, CA 90605
(562) 944-5357

298 Family LIfe Center Apostolic Church
Pastor: (none)
7435 Norwalk Blvd
Whittier, CA 90606-2151
(562) 692-9396

299 Whittier Apostolic Faith Center
Pastor: Ron Fernandez
5724 Esperanza Ave
Whittier, CA 90606
(562) 692-8567

300 Wilmington 1
Pastor: Alfred Carrillo
1508 E Robidoux St
Wilmington, CA 90744
(310) 549-6621

301 Wilmington 2
Pastor: Casto J Narváez
629 Avalon Blvd. Suite E
Wilmington, CA 90744
(562) 861-2509


302 Winton (IC) Joe Salas
Pastor: (none)
6990 Cottage Street
Winton, CA 95388
(209) 769-5933

303 Woodlake
Pastor: Juan P Alvarado
199 N. Palm St.
Woodlake, CA 93286
(559) 564-8352

304 Yuba City
Pastor: Moses R Varela
1461 Walnut Ave
Yuba City, CA 95993
(530) 673-6213

Unknown said...

(to the last post) Its funny most pastors wives or children sing in the praise team and they are probably the worst singers or LEAST qualified.
So hows all my peeps in Cali? The weathers weird here today !(overcast).
Thought for the day: thank u for replying and accepting my apology. You make me very curious as to who you are though. Im in my mid 30's and 2nd generation and seen "enough" but you sound like you've been in this thing way too long.
In my earlier youth after I was blasted before my congregation and all my sins were pardoned... I was introduced to our Black-brothers and though i keep my ties close to the AA (my roots) and stay involved somewhat, i get my substance from the PAW. I know you get politics everywhere you go, but at least I hear some WORD there and its not all about "appearance". My cousin who "graduated" from "BIBLE COLLEGE" aka - AA required schooling - my family threw him a grand ol'bash, the apple of their eye, he is esteemed highly. On the other hand myself, who graduated from a "higher learning UNIVERSITY" - i got a "good job mijo, but what is that going to do for God?".... R U KIDDING ME!
these topics get me heated so I will stop while I get ahead.

Outraged said...

I am furious at what I see going on in the AA! For so long this deception, manipulation and outright greed has been quietly accepted for fear of being rebuked for not being obedient to the administration and leadership of the church! Enough is enough! When are the "hermanos" sitting in our churches going to wake up and realize that its not a sin to question the leadership/pastorship of their local church when clarification and accountability is demanded! I am fearful for the times we are living in especially when the state of our orginization is in such disarray and our children's futures are at stake! How can you proclaim to be preaching the truth one Sunday and the next be lining your pockets with offering intended for your church building fund! Greed and power is running rampant in the leadership of our orginization and its time we as well informed member voice our distrust and demand change!

called2proclaim said...

Pastors Daniel & Rita D. Salomón and El Bethel Community Apostolic Church convenes an Apostolic Summit:

“Reconnecting the 21st Century Church with the LORD’s Mission”


Thursday September 25th, 2008 and Friday September 26th, 2008
Renaissance Denver Hotel
3801 Quebec Street
Denver, Colorado 80207
888/238-6762  303/336-5213
$99.00 per room night plus applicable taxes
Lodging reservations are under “Apostolic Summit”
Complimentary shuttle to and from Denver International Airport

Activity commences on Thursday September 25th, 2008 at 1:00 PM
Activity concludes on Friday September 26th at 9:00 PM


Presentations/Services:
Formation of new association
Formation of local incorporations
Facilitation of the Gifts of the Spirit
Facilitation of the 5-fold Apostolic Ministries
The Role of Women in Ministry
Corporate Worship Services including an Anointing Ceremony

Everyone welcome!

~ Casual attire recommended ~

For more information please contact our Apostolic Summit Coordinator:
Diana Salgado  11369 Kingston Street  Henderson, Colorado  80640
Email: dsalgado72@hotmail.com  Telephone: 720/933-1681
Apostolic Summit Program

Thursday September 25, 2008 1:00 PM
1:00-1:15 PM Words of Welcome/Prayer/Worship Daniel Salomón
1:15-2:45 PM Formation of Association Abel V. Torres
2:45-3:45 PM The Role of Women in Ministry Miguel A. Hernández
3:45-5:00 PM Association Survey Salvador V. Mendoza

5:00-7:00 PM Break

7:00 PM Spanish Worship Service Carlos Iván Álvarez
Spanish Message Rafael David Zúñiga
Anointing Ceremony Baldemar Rodríguez

Friday September 26, 2008 9:00 AM
9:00-9:30 AM Prayer Efraín Andrade
9:30-9:45 AM Worship TBA
9:45-10:45 AM Preparation for Impartation Daniel Salomón
10:45 AM-12:00 PM The Gifts of the Spirit Saúl L. Ávila

12:00-1:30 PM Break

1:30-2:30 PM The Five-Fold Apostolic Ministry Rafael David Zúñiga
2:30-3:30 PM The Formation of Local Incorporations Salvador V. Mendoza
3:30-5:00 PM Panel Discussion Baldemar Rodríguez

5:00-7:00 PM Break


7:00 PM English Worship Service Worship Leader: Carlos Iván Álvarez
English Message Daniel Salomón

Program subject to change

LL said...

Called2Proclaim

Thank you, for the Summit info.

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called2proclaim said...

LL:

u can also fin it here

http://apostolicassembly.info/Others.html



word of mouth...peace

accion said...

2:45-3:45 PM The Role of Women in Ministry Miguel A. Hernández
Finally someone is going to address this important issue.

LL said...

Called3Pro

I did get the email on the dates but, not the schedule.

LL said...

Called3Pro

I did get the email on the dates but, not the schedule.

Thought for the day said...

To all Bloggers:

I am really at AWE...
Unbelieveable ..Profesy at its Best.
"PRAISE BE TO GOD AND AGAIN I SAY 'PRAISE BE TO GOD'...FOR HIS MERCIES ENDURE FOREVER...

Ex-Presiding Bishop Baldemar Rodriguez, Bishop Daniel Salomon and Reverend and great friend Salvador V. Mendoza, home base Oxnard, California..
''TOGETHER AND RE-UNITED. PRAISE THE LORD.

God does do miracles. These men ARE GREAT LEADERS....AND TOGETHER..
PRAISE THE LORD..
"LEADERS HAVE A VERY DIFFICULT TIME TO AGREE,BECAUSE 'THEY ARE 'LEADERS.'
BUT FOR GOD'S WORK AND SINCERITY...FOR GOD'S PEOPLE IT CAN BE DONE.

FINALLY MY EYES HAVE SEEN THE '
"RE- BIRTH IN A MORE SPIRITUALLY RECONCILATION AND RE-REVIVED.

BROTHERS THAT I JUST MENTIONED.
DO YOU REALIZE AND I MEAN EVERY WORD...DO YOU REALIZE.HOW MUCH THE LORD LOVES YOU THREE?

I know from VAST EXPERIENCE that I have seen and lived it that Daniel Sanchez and the GB, especially the Gb are "sorry"they "dismissed you"

Well not Brother Sal Mendoza,.
HE WAS NOT DISMISSED.
Reverend Sal Mendoza as many of you know was the 7th.(if Iam not mistaken, the 7th., President of the Messenger's of Peace. Could have done much more, but remember, "Ala Jauhall..obsticals from all "sides".

But Iam so happy to "read" in this "blogs on the "Association" these men are doing. With them Iam sure Bishop Abel Torres and Reverend David Zuniga.
All Great Leaders. That Iam sure will work " As Dedicated re-annointed Christian experienced "Team"

If any one in this Entire Planet should have been an "Esquire in Law" is Reverend Salvador Mendoza.
I Hope one of your children does become an "Esquire".

PLEASE AND I BEG YOU PLEASE.....
NAME THIS ASSOCIATION.
"APOSTOLIC RE-FORMATION CHURCH."
I am may interject that there may already be a Church names as such...If that's the case, then let it be. But I still "strongly suggest" and Iam only suggesting..."LET IT HAVE THE WORD, 'APOSTOLIC'
BECAUSE ITS BASED ON THE 'DOCTRINE OF THE APOSTOLIC PRIMITIVE CHURCH.
IN THE NAME OF JESUS.

AGAIN I REPEAT.
'PLEASE ENTITLE THIS NEW Association:
"Apostolic Reformation Church"

Because you know "Early Church ' History, and then the "Dark Ages" and then the "reformation" Church period when Martin Luther, brought the "new light" by giving us the "Bible" "God's Word...
Also why???
'APOSTOLIC REFORMATION CHURCH'
You are "coming Out of the "Dark ages..of selfish, egocentric, fraudant and "money hungry individual, the Gb.

WHY? AS A GREAT "tribute TO HONOR GOD BECAUSE OF THE 'REAL FOUNDERS' OF THE APOSTOLIC ASSEMBLY WHO TOILED, LABORED, AND
WHOSE PRAYERS ARE STILL, AT THE TRONE OF GOD.
AS JOHN THE 'REVELATOR' WAS TOLD, WHEN HE ASKED., ' WHAT ARE THOSE LIGHTS THAT AT THE THRONE OF GOD.?

AND HE WAS told"
'THOSE ARE THE PRAYERS OF THE SAINTS THAT WILL NEVER CEASE.

I WISH YOU ALL OF GOD'S BLESSINGS.
FOR I KNOW THAT 'YOUR HUMBLE SPIRIT THAT GOD HAS RE-NEWED IN YOU WILL BE EXTENDED TO MANY 'NEW SOULS' AND TO MANY MANY 'WOUNDED IN THE APOSTOLIC ASSEMBLY OF THE FAITH IN CHRIST JESUS INCORPORATED.
That are 'PREDESTENED' TO JOIN YOU.
I ALSO SUGGEST THAT THE ONE THAT SHOULD BE 'THE PERSON TO ORGANIZE AND SPEAK ON WOMEN'S MINISTRIES SHOULD BE A WOMAN:,
INSTEAD OF A MAN AND THIS WOMAN SHOULD BE NAMED TO DO THIS HONORABLE CAUSE',FOR THE LORD, AS SISTER DAHLIA TORRES..

SHE HAS ALWAYS BEEN HUMBLE, SWEET AND A PRAYER WARRIOR AND THE APOSTOLIC ASSEMBLY KNOWS THIS VERY WELL.

SISTER DAHLIA SHOULD BE IN 'YOUR STORY' AS THE 'ONE THAT ORGANIZED AND GAVE HER ALL OF HER WONDERFUL CONCREATED EXPERTISE.
FOR THE HONOR AND GLORY OF GOD.
GOD BLESS YOU. PRAY FOR US, AS WE
PRAY FOR YOU.

WE LOVE YOU ALL.

WatchOut! said...

AA board

How true is this? Really 300+ churches are being shut down? Anyone else know anything about this?

nonanonymous said...

truth said:
but anyway I'll try to get more info on the disfunction Sanchez family I understand they got another brother in San Diego wich he is also a pastor I'll try to find out on him see if he is good or he is just like the rest of the Sanchez

there's no disfunction in your family?? And i'm the one thats judging?? remember, im not the one claiming to be a christian!

thought for the day said:
What? I do not "elavorated"
What? again, I ask. You want a book.
Iam telling you the truth. I cannot elavorate any more because of "space". I already "write" such long blogs. I'm giving you "facts", places and "names.
That's the best I can do in a
little "tiny" square of a 'blob".

i was just asking you to give the names of all these people. you only gave some initials of some people.(like that will help) what if some os these people did something to someone on here??


thinkfirst said:
You are beyond soap, little girl!
What you need is a slap to the mouth!

You said you blame YOUR leaders for your foul mouth? YOU MUST BE TALKING ABOUT YOUR OWN PARENTS, RIGHT? SO IS THAT WHAT YOUR PARENTS TOLD YOU ALL YOUR LIFE? YOU WERE BLANKED UP???


lmao...again i say, i'm not the one claiming to be a christian! is this how you approach all the "unsaved" people? (starting with your family members, because i'm sure you got "unsaved" family.)

so i'm beyond soap...i need a slap to the mouth??? LMAO!! WOULD'NT YOU ENJOY GIVING IT TO ME HUH?? (in the name of Jesus of course!)

truth said...

Nonanonymous) I might have disfunctional family but I don't claim to have a perfect family like the Sanchez.tI guess Sanchez just forgot that a lot of peopla still knows them from the past. and thanks god for that.

Thought for the day said...

Action Neutrality:
Praise the Lord:

Sorry I did not answer you "blog" on August 6th. Please excuse me.
But I was reading it.

Martin Luther King, was shot and killed. He is a "world hero"

Rosa Parks was arrested.
Iam not that "brave" I will remain

I will by choice "remain anonymous like everyone else, except Henry and Scotty.

nonanonymous said...

enrique said:
Why are you on this blog ?

You said your not christian so why would you care about what is going on ?

What difference does it make to you ?

You talk about people judging why would you care if anyone judges you if your not christian and could care less ?

You sure are spending some precious time arguing with people you say are the same as you.

You got that very wrong !!!!!

We are the same as you only in that we have a fallen sinful nature.

The difference is we even though being sinners are washed by the blood of Christ and are redeemed because Christ is merciful not because we are better than you.

However if you reject Christ because we are hipocrite's and judges the you are the only one that will lose.

i was'nt arguing. i was discussing certain issues. i'm on this blog because i can be, just as much as you can be. i reject Christ?? no i dont reject Christ! AND there is NO difference between us...you are still a sinner like me!! i'm sure you do sinful things still, just as i do.(or the next person) i never judged anyone here...i merely "baited" someone for names. i was the one that was "judged" because i said a cuss word. you have been "washed in the blood" you never, ever have thought/said/did anything sinful after being "washed in the blood and redeemed" right?? lol....
"washed in the blood"??? you mean you were baptized? i'm baptized too!

beth

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To AA Bloger:
With the gasoline crises and with this Country At War and you are messing "removing" Pastors..

You want people to "hate you more"..

I have a good one for you give up either one past GB or Church..
I ddare you...But youuuuuuuuuuuwon"T the money is too good.

Have "fun"because it will soon be over like it says in the
"despues de la altivez, viene la callida."

"After the "highrise" comes the "fall."

"And remember " Say "hello" to your brother on your "Way up" because when you come down> You will surely meet with him again."

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truth said...

I vote we don't pay attention to nonanomyos anymore I reallu think he is. AGB or GB son.

nonanonymous said...

truth

okay. i'm not here to be bashed on or judged because i say a cuss word. i was directing the cuss word to myself. (it's called venting.)i was not cussing at anyone. i'm not here to judge. i'm here to discuss different issues like everyone else. i'm asking alot of questions and trying to get answers.
we cool? can we be friends?

nonanonymous said...

truth

how nice of you! i'm not gb or son of a gb....lmao!! my name is beth and unlike you, i will say who i am!!

are you aware of how you sound??
unbelievable...but so believable!
typical...figures!

Thought for the day said...

Dear nonanonymous,
we learn from our mistakes and our words have to be measured. I have tried to do this for years.
Hope you give your heart and life to our Lord and Savior.
People dissapoint us every day. People that do not "care" but at the end they are "left alone."

Go bless you and seek God> He loves you very much.

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nonanonymous said...

thought for the day

thank you! you're kind and gentle. that is needed. and i appreciate it.
p.s. will you be in Denver? maybe i can meet you.

beth

thinkfirst said...

lmao/beth said,

lmao...again i say, i'm not the one claiming to be a christian! is this how you approach all the "unsaved" people? (starting with your family members, because i'm sure you got "unsaved" family.)

TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YES, ESPECIALLY IF THEY USE DIRTY WORDS LIKE YOU DID!! You need to quit hidding behind that, -'I'm not saved bit , so leave me alone.'

For your information ppl on her are saved and do not enjoy seeing your ignorant words(cursing) on this post!
And then you try to put guilt by saying I'm not saved. Whatever!Your probably not who you say you are. You probaly need some attention and lack it.

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thinkfirst said...

Skotty-

What about Indio?

. said...

Back to the real issue people!

More dirt on the gb, please!

You two sisters stop fighting.

thinkfirst said...

To Pink,

True. Let's move on. Next!

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Thought for the day said...

Dear Truth,
I had stopped "blogging" because I was "baited" so much I thought I could "finish" my book on this.

But people from everywhere started calling me to "continue".
I just feel bad for the person that "takes so much time" "bloging and then no one answers them.

So here it goes to yuu.
"I am answering you."

Thank you for the info on the dysfuntional Daniel Sanchez"'s. family.

Ever since he "wanna be" like my dearest friend Reverend Robert Ramirez,; may God rest his soul.

Sanchez "made a name for himself" trying to M.C.in conventions and any where he could "croon" and "sing" his way to a personal I.D.

Everyone "thought" he was nice at that time. But then as he went into "MID-LIFE' crises he "turned mean and showed his true colors.
"Self centered and money oriented.

When he started" singing that "so called song "Quemame". "Burn me" I knew he "lost it."

Here we are trying to get to Heaven, by God's Grace and love and stay "out of Hell" and he "attempts" to sing that song"Quemame' "Burn me".

Anything to get "attention"

We are so pathetic, that since we do not have 'good singers' anymore this guy thinks he can entertain us with his "sour notes and flat monotone voice." On "Quemame"
"Burn me"

Please help us Lord get rid of this object.


They tell us in conventions...etc., that "there is no time to have good singers sing.
Because---
There is no time to hear, "real" singers sing....Oh 'BUT THERE IS SURE TIME AND PLENTY TO HEAR, THE 'Sanchez try to sing.

And to top it off he would have the "love of his life, his dear beautiful. (distinguished full of christian personality wife)( as they call her).. I do not know the look of a "smile" or a praise the Lord brother, to me and I have been in the AA all my 80 years..

She "tries to go along and "croon as he does, or so help me Eva Fierro Barrientos., if she doesn't. She will get "some more of what she got from Sanchez while in Solana Beach.Ask "someold timers from there, like...

How sad, when others "real gifted" singers go year and year out and are 'NEVER ALLOWED TO SING' .

Oh the Union City singer does. For Papa Adam, After "all he dragged out of the Pastors, $5,000.00 each over in Texas at the convention in November.
So there it goes "again" the money trail. " You get me money, You can sing." You don't get me money you can"t sing..."You get me money you can "preach". That's why Abel Aguilar is in the GB. He is "real good friends with Sammy Valvederde and "give good money from the Grants Aguilar gets to the GB.

It is all about money, and control and munipulation..

I hear even Rachel Valvederde gets "alot of money" "gifts" from some "favorite" Dorcas.

So they can "speak and be introduced in the meetings,retreats and convention meeting while at the "DorcAS MEETINGS.
Georgina, Santa and Francisca do the same, "you pay', 'you talk".

Sounds unreal, this is why there are so much "fraud in elections, the "whole system is "fraudlent".

So we must move on. Like the Primitive Church in Jersalem.
"The great war that came upon the "Early Church" has come upon the AA...
"

Because we have to hear the word of God they say., there uis no "time for certain singers"..

I ask? "What word of God to "to Bash women"..
No wonder we are in the "situation" we are in,Enough is Enough.......

So going back to "real the issue" What do you know about Eliseo's arrest? In Houston, Texas in 1967-

And why does Sanchez allow Eliseo to continue in the MINISTRY?

CAN YOU SOLVE THIS PROBLEM, I t happened SINCE 1968.

This happened my sources say in Houston, Texas...
Try to find out, but believe you can't Its very difficult since no one "speaks up"

Those that were "Lynched" cannot find out...Why? Do you know?

God Bless you.

Having taken "courses" on christian foundations, prartically on "church worship" and the "meaning and significance of a " song". I knew this man ,"knew Nothindg about songs.. The message of the song, the poetry of the song and the significance of the Song.

So now you tell us about his brother Steve.. But why does everyone runnnnnnnnnnnnnnnfrom giving "Information on Eliseo's background, his arrresst and his soliciting his wife in Houston, Texas, during the 1960---.

Why? Is this man still in the ministry? Why??? Has Sanchez lynched so many people and now the " list on the Blogs' on this other Pastors to be removed. And why all from California. What does he have against us here in California?

Henry, are Sanchez and Valverde and Pacheco because California's Real Estate is higher that most states?

Why not Arizona, N. M.; Texas, Colorado, Georgia, N.Y. Indiana, Ohio, Florida, Virginia and other
states...

What's going on concern Elisio Sanchez. Why is Daniel Sanchez allowing his brother Eliseo to continue Pastoring in Richmond, Va.
Why is everyone so hush, hush, so quite?

Well please accept my apology...
You prabably do not know anything either.

Thank you.

Good night...God bless you.

porq said...

Hey all happy campers, lol

Back on the "Blog" 1x. Please just indulge me a bit. I want n need to say to the Blog-Master "THANK YOU" for creating this e-forum and for letting all the good, the bad and the ugly to manifest itself. As I was just reading these last few and recent posts- O yeah, maybe we all have gone "way too far" with
our choice of words. I include moi!

Now that most of us here have left or some are about to leave the AA, let's all meet in person in Denver on September 25-26th, including our
ApostolicNews Creator/facilitator;)

It will be definitely one for the ages, and one of Apostolic Renewal!

I promise and can assure you that I will make myself known, no matter
what the consequences may be, just bear in mind that y'all must du da same. Lets be free n open about it.
Remember that world famous saying after 9/11 ?, "We Are Not Afraid"!!

Let's go back to the original plan-
the Lord's great com-mission to us!
Take ownership of His mission so we
will make it our world mission too.

Someone once said, "If we make His business our business, He'll will make our business His business" wow

Porq la fedilidad de Dios es GRANDE

No weapon formed against(us)you ...
or Nothing can hurt, harm or STOP U
I say what He said Nothing n No one

I speak peace, life, all blessings from the Father above to EVERYBOBY!

Selah

Ciao, happy trails, God bless yous and until we meet again in Denver!!

Porq no ...

Skotty Will Show You said...

Lugo ... WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO THE WE CARE WE SHARE PROGRAM

IT STARTED IN 1980...
AND WORD IS THAT YOU ARE TAKING MONEY OUT OF THE PROGRAM... POSSIBLY FOR SELF GAIN...

Lugo ... WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO THE WE CARE WE SHARE PROGRAM

IT STARTED IN 1980...
AND WORD IS THAT YOU ARE TAKING MONEY OUT OF THE PROGRAM... POSSIBLY FOR SELF GAIN...

Lugo ... WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO THE WE CARE WE SHARE PROGRAM

IT STARTED IN 1980...
AND WORD IS THAT YOU ARE TAKING MONEY OUT OF THE PROGRAM... POSSIBLY FOR SELF GAIN...

Skotty Will Show You said...

c'mon ppl ...
think about the we care we share program!!

WatchOut! said...

Hey, so should we all wear our blog names on our id tags in Denver?! jk LOL

WatchOut! said...

Okay Skotty, what is the We Care We Share program? What happened?

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Think and think again said...

Don't miss this one.


As long as Sergio Maffey and his"enslaved wife' stay with the AA
will be in this mess.

Many are going with the "group in Colorado, but do not let Sergio or his brother Leopardo in> It will be like "taking in a sKunk"

This' bitter' men are one of the "main reasons our Assembly is so "bitter" and lack of personality." S. Maffey made such
"a mess in Spain. The work there in Spain..regressed 30 years.

Those three including their Brother Richard are THE NUMBER 1 LEGALISTS IN THE AA.
'FUNNY HOW THEIR WIVES HAIR ARE 'ALL PAINTED. WHERE ARE THEIR CHRISTIAN ETHICS.
IF THEY WOULD EVER SEE YOU AT A RESTAURANT IN "KNEE SHORTS. THEY WOULD 'LYNCH' YOU RIGHT THERE AND THEN.


BUT I HEAR THEY LOVE TO 'GOLF..
"WHAT TERRIBLE UP BRINGING THESE THREE HAD. NEGLECT AND ABUSE. IT REFLECTS IN THEIR WONDERFUL DINAMICA PERSONALITY...

HAVE YOU EVER MET THEIR 'MOTHER' TALKING ABOUT 'SELF RIGHTEOUS. IT MAKES US ALL LOOK LIKE 'SPONGE BOB AND THE TURTLE.'

nonanonymous said...

thinkfirst

wow!! you exhuberate the love of Christ!! lmao...if you come to Denver, maybe you can slap my mouth(cause thats what i need; as you posted earlier). I would like to meet you. i will be there. i'm not hiding behind anything or anyone. i know who i am!


beth

CHAIRMAN_MAO said...

is the sal mendoza.. the sal mendoza of Houston?

just asking..

and wha exactly is scheduled in Denver for Sept?

john.3.16 said...

richard.buffet

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Thought for the day said...

Dear Chairman MAO;

Praise the Lord.

Yes, Sal Mendoza is now living in Houston, Texas.
He was introduced into the Messengers of Peace by his then Pastor Robert Ramirez.
Brother Sal was"fair and dynamic"

But like I said in one of the blogs, Daniel Jauhall that as far as he was concerned, "Never stopped being MOPP,"

He would"ruled with an iron fist to all the Messengers of Peace Presidents.

Ask Abel Aguilar. Brother Jauhall and Brother Abel Aguilar, were like "two peas in a pod".

They are now in their "own war camp" against each other.

Who ever was Messengers of Peace President had to " account to Brother Jauhall for everything.

Brother Sal suffered alot...Totally black=balled.
by Jauhall.

Iam so glad that, Brother Sal has reunited with Ex.Presiding Bishop Baldemar and with Bishops Dan Salomon and Abel Torress.

Brother Sal has one of the sweetest and kindness wife.
Totally dedicated to her family and their Church.

I hope to see them in Denver. Lord willing.

God bless you always. And good night.

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Think and think again said...

John 3:16

What is Richard Buffett?
Someone very special?

. said...

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. said...

apostolicrestoration.blogspot.com



Apostolic Summit 2008
Apostolic Summit 2008
Apostolic Summit 2008
Apostolic Summit 2008

Thought for the day said...

JUST AN OBSERVATION;;;
FROM A LITTLE BIT OF EXPERIENCE;

LOOK OUT IN DENVER FOR 'SPIES. SORT OF THE LIKES OF PASTOR JUAN HERNANDEZ FROM OCEANSIDE.
HE IS EXTREMELY INSINCERE..
Has something going on with the Church's secretary.. But Sanchez looks the other way. Because Brother Hernandez, that used to be the Bishop of that area is very informative to D. Sanchez and the GB. Tells them everything and more.

Also we have to pray because the only Pastor there in Denver that was with AA and kept The Church property is Bishop Abel Torres..

This is very discouraging to church going members.
I know because "renting" does not give the members "ssecurity of their own church.

This we have to pray about.

But the AA if it follows this pattern of "removing" Pastors will be "left" with the mortage of the
property. And no members to continue paying the mortage.
This is where in AA will be in tough bind to get a new Pastor with no congregation or Sell the property.
ESPANOL A TODO PASTOR;

Estoy total mente enojado y desepzionado en la "triacion" de Pastor Abel Jimenez de Ontario, cuando tomo el Pastorado de la Iglesia de San Bernardino.

Esto se ve de la
mucha hipocrecia que hay en la Asamblea Apostolica, cuando un amigo como fue el Ex. Presidente Baldemar Rodriguez, con the Pastor Abel Jimenez de Ontario, y con eso le paga.

Que EL HERMANO BALDEMAR lo saco "Del Rancho", como quien dice. AL HERMANO ABEL JIMENEZ y trato de hacerlo "gente" y no lo logro.
Porque al fin tomo la ruta de La M directiva. Al lado del opuesto, contra su amigo que fue el Pastor Baldemar para el Pastor Abel Jimenez.


Con esto se pagan los favores..
Quien le puede tener confianza a un Pastor o hombre como Pastor Abel Jimenez, que le dio la espalda a su amigo Obispo Baldemar Rodriguez.

Bueno, usted puede decir, "pero el Hermano Baldemar demando a la AA."

Bueno si, pero, por cuasas "justificadas que ustedes todos los Pastores no tienen la Valentia de hacer.
POR FRAUDE..Si no que siguen que los "sanjanos que el quitan, y le quitan y les quitan. Se burlan el las convenciones de todo el dinero que les quitan...Y nunca tienen suficiente. Por los $10,000.00 por meses que recikben, y los $4,000.00 de cada iglesia no lo es suficiente.

Preparece con sin menos de $10,000.00 o mas que va tener que dar en la convencion .

Pero, digamos que el Pastor Abel Jimenez queria peremanecer con la Asamblea.
Bueno si...Pero No Tome la Iglesia que le quitaron a quien fue su amigo y hermano en Cristo....

Si quiera por 'amistad' y confianza, que tubikeron muchos tiempo.

Pero ,Pastores no hay que tenerle confianza a nadie. Si su mejor amigo no lo apoya...que entonces hara usted? A que le va ha tener confianza. Si su mejor amigo le dice todo a Sanchez y a la mesa directiva.

Esto me recuerda de los Tiempos con "Hitler" contra El Pueblo Judio"
Que uno y otro se traizionaba a su mejor Amigo.
Estos son tiempos muy peligrosos.

Que hermano en Cristo triazona a su Hermano..

Tiempos de la Apostacia.

Que Verguenza......

Yo diria que si esto me hubiera pasado a mi con un amigo mio...
Nunca hubiera yo tomado la Igesia que fue "arancada" de un amigo y companero que fue El Hermano Baldemar Rodriguez.
Amigos por mucho tiempo que fue el Hermano Abel Jimenez.

Pero esto indica que el Pastor Abel Jimenez de Ontario es tipo y figura de LA TRAICON QUE HAY AHORA EN LA ASAMBLEA APOSTOLICA DE LA FE EN CRISTO JESUS INCORPORADA.
QUIEN SE DISQUE Que SON HERMANOS EN CRISTO Y COMPANEROS EN LA OBRA DEL GRAN DIOS."
'
UNA COSA TENGO CONTRA TI QUE HAS DEJADO TU PRIMER AMOR, Y TE VOMITARA DE MI BOCA.
.
Siempre se ha considero el Pastor Abel Jimenez un campesino, Ranchero de algun Rancho lobrego en Mexico que ni a la escuela primaria fue.

El lo comprovo con su triazon a su Hermano en Cristo. De asumir la Iglesia que fue "arancada" tan despotamente.
Arancada por El Obispo Lugo, que hace muy poco tiempo era una de la Calle.
Y por Sanchez, que estaba alli gososo y no metio mano para ayudar a su Hermano que experimentaba dolor y anjustia como por unos "malvados del Barrio"

Siendo avergonzado tan cruel mente, y sin conscienca.

Como se le puede confiar a este Tipo de Pastor Nada...Si a su mejor amigo lo triasiono.

Que Dios tenga misericordia de Ustedes. Pero ustedes estan muy felizes en
'SU LINDO CAFETAL.'

YA NO TIENEN AMOR NI CONSCIENCA. COMO PUEDEN TOMAR SUS PULPITOS Y HABLARLE A LAS ALMAS DEL AMOR DE DIOS. CUANDO USTEDES ESTAN VIENDO A SUS HERMANOS uno por uno ser totalmente sido sin misericordia ser teminados de su Ministerios, que Dios les encomendo.

POR UNOS QUE HICIERON 'FRAUDE Y SE BURLARON DE USTEDES CON ABUSARE DE USTEDES EN LAS ELECIONES EN LONG BEACH. TENIDOS POR HORAS ENETRAS.
Y HOMBRES COMO PASTOR MISAEL ZARAGOSA QUE SIN MISERICORDIA LOS ENTRETENIA QUE 'CHISTES Y BROMAS'

CON ENGANO Y TRAICION...DONDE ESTA EL MACHISMO HISPANO., QUE ES EL ORJOLLO DE USTEDES. .....



QUE DIOS TENGA MISERICORDIA DE USTEDES Y DE SUS HIJOS.

DONDE ESTA SU FAMOSO MACHISMO....PATRONISMO Y NACIONALISMO....DONDE ESTA'???''

NO TIENEN VERGUENSA SER HUMILADOS TOTAL MENTE DERROTADA NUESTRA AMADA IGLESIA. PORQUE ESTOS MUNIPULADORES Y CONTROLADORES QUE NO LES COSTO NADDA Y COMO TOROS EN UNA CASA DE 'CRISTAL' VENIEROS A DESTRILLER TODO Y USTED NOMAS VEN....
LA MESA DIRECTIVA SABEN MUY BIEN QUE USTEDES NO ESTAN UNIDOS......
Y SABEN SUS DEBELIDADES, QUE NIO TIENEN UN 'LIDER PATRIARCA' QUE LOS REPRESENTE....QUE TODOS YA SE FUERON CON EL SE;OR.
Y QUE USTEDES NO TOMARON EL EJEMPO DE DEFENDER LA OBRA DE DIOS A CAPA Y A ESPADA.

COMO HIZO DAVID CONTRA 'SAUL' Y DAVID CONTRA GOLIATH.

Cuando alguien qquiere conquistar a alguien. Primeramente le estudia sus debelidades
y con eso los derrota.

Si leen la Biblia, de que les sirve?
Si no toman las experiencia del Pueblo de Israel contra los enemigos que fueron tantos durante la Perenigracion.

Dios tenga miseridordia de Nosotros...
Unos de esos que va en el medio del Camino, y no es sincero, son muchos...Pero el champion es Pastor Juan Hernandez de Oceanside, y muchos otros. Ore al Snor que Tenga miseericodia de nosotros con estos "Barbaos" Sin temor a Dios. Ni amor a la Iglesia.

"Levantate tu que duermes y de alumbrar Cristo"
No le tengan miedo son unos covardes. Que nomas se acaba el servicio de la Convention y corren a sus cuartos. No sea que se le afrente un Gedeon....

ESTAMOS SENDIO DERROTADOS
POR HOMBRES DE LA MESA DIRECTIVA QUE HA NO TIENE TEMOR A DIOS..

'CON ESTO CONOCERIS QUE SON MIS DISCIPULOS QUE OS AMEIS LOS UNOS A LOS OTROS

DUERMA BIEN A QUE SU TIEMPO SEGARAN....

. said...

Has anyone ever heard of Samuel Sandate?

He is family to Pastor Sandate from Rosenburg Tx...

Samuel was "minister in charged" of a work in Salt Lake City Ut...

In one year Bro Samuel who started with no members had 40 members most all were baptized in Jesus Name by Samuel Sandate. He was renting a Methodist building and was having revival...

About 2 months ago, Samuel told his pastor how the work was growing and wanted to move it to a bigger location. Samuel's pastor told him don't worry, I'll take care of it. That same week, Samuel's pastor "removed Samuel" as minister in charge! He then merged the new-work with his church. When Samuel questioned these actions his pastor told him, I cannot make you a pastor, because you don't have your papers...

This has nothing to do with the 2006 appointments, however it is still an injustice! This young minister raised a work/church from the ground up, only to have another man take it for himself!

This was another "lynching"
how long will this continue?

If you go to
iglesiaapostolicadeprovo.org
you will see more pictures of bro. Samuel Sandate preaching then the local pastor....

Pastors,Minister,Saints
you must stop this once and for all!

Please do your best to attend
The Apostolic Summit 2008!

*********************************

There was a trinitarian church that requested a Apostolic pastor.
God opened the doors for Samuel Sandate! As of this week, he has relocated to Las Vegas NV.
And is now Pastor Samuel Sandate!
To God be the GLORY!

He is not with the AA anymore, he is under Los Pentecostales en el desierto it's Apostolic Pentecostal. If anyone fron Las Vegas NV. interested in helping out in any form of ministry please contact "healingnow@live.com"
They can give you more info...

Just this week he baptized 5 trinitarians in the name of JESUS!

This is a trinitarian church that contacted Apostolics for a pastor!

This is awesome people! The world is hungry for what we have!
Get ready for revival!

Apostolic Summit 2008!

. said...
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Thought for the day said...

JUST AN OBSERVATION;;;
FROM A LITTLE BIT OF EXPERIENCE;

LOOK OUT IN DENVER FOR 'SPIES. SORT OF THE LIKES OF PASTOR JUAN HERNANDEZ FROM OCEANSIDE.
HE IS EXTREMELY INSINCERE..
Has something going on with the Church's secretary.. But Sanchez looks the other way. Because Brother Hernandez, that used to be the Bishop of that area is very informative to D. Sanchez and the GB. Tells them everything and more.

Also we have to pray because the only Pastor there in Denver that was with AA and kept The Church property is Bishop Abel Torres..

This is very discouraging to church going members.
I know because "renting" does not give the members "ssecurity of their own church.

This we have to pray about.

But the AA if it follows this pattern of "removing" Pastors will be "left" with the mortage of the
property. And no members to continue paying the mortage.
This is where in AA will be in tough bind to get a new Pastor with no congregation or Sell the property.
ESPANOL A TODO PASTOR;

Estoy total mente enojado y desepzionado en la "triacion" de Pastor Abel Jimenez de Ontario, cuando tomo el Pastorado de la Iglesia de San Bernardino.

Esto se ve de la
mucha hipocrecia que hay en la Asamblea Apostolica, cuando un amigo como fue el Ex. Presidente Baldemar Rodriguez, con the Pastor Abel Jimenez de Ontario, y con eso le paga.

Que EL HERMANO BALDEMAR lo saco "Del Rancho", como quien dice. AL HERMANO ABEL JIMENEZ y trato de hacerlo "gente" y no lo logro.
Porque al fin tomo la ruta de La M directiva. Al lado del opuesto, contra su amigo que fue el Pastor Baldemar para el Pastor Abel Jimenez.


Con esto se pagan los favores..
Quien le puede tener confianza a un Pastor o hombre como Pastor Abel Jimenez, que le dio la espalda a su amigo Obispo Baldemar Rodriguez.

Bueno, usted puede decir, "pero el Hermano Baldemar demando a la AA."

Bueno si, pero, por cuasas "justificadas que ustedes todos los Pastores no tienen la Valentia de hacer.
POR FRAUDE..Si no que siguen que los "sanjanos que el quitan, y le quitan y les quitan.
Se burlan en las convenciones de todo el dinero que les quitan...Y nunca tienen suficiente.

Por los $10,000.00 por meses que reciben, y los $4,000.00 de cada iglesia no lo es suficiente.
Y son tan 'ABSOLUTOS QUE NO EL DAN REPORTE A NOSTROS QUE TANTO RECEIBEN MENSUAL.
QUE ES UNA VERGUENZA QUE ESTE TIEMPOR, DIFERENTE A LOS PASADOS, QUE TIENEN PUESTO EN LA MESA DIRECTIVA Y TAMBIEN UNA IGLESIA QUE LE DA BASTANTE DINERO.

EN TIEMPO PASADOS ERA NECESARIO ESTO, PORQUE NO HABIAN TANTAS ENTREADAS, PERO ESTOS ENTRE 'MAS LE DEN USTEDES MAS QUIEREN.' NO TIENE FIN...

Preparece con sin menos de $10,000.00 o mas que va tener que dar en la convencion .
y USTEDES SABEN BIEN QUE NO LES PUEDEN NEGAR.....O DES DAN 'BOLA NEGRA"....

Pero, digamos que el Pastor Abel Jimenez queria peremanecer con la Asamblea.
Bueno si...Pero No Tome la Iglesia que le quitaron a quien fue su amigo y hermano en Cristo....

Si quiera por 'amistad' y confianza, que tubikeron muchos tiempo.

Pero ,Pastores no hay que tenerle confianza a nadie. Si su mejor amigo no lo apoya...que entonces hara usted? A que le va ha tener confianza. Si su mejor amigo le dice todo a Sanchez y a la mesa directiva.

Esto me recuerda de los Tiempos con "Hitler" contra El Pueblo Judio"
Que uno y otro se traizionaba a su mejor Amigo.
Estos son tiempos muy peligrosos.

Que hermano en Cristo triazona a su Hermano..

Tiempos de la Apostacia.

Que Verguenza......

Yo diria que si esto me hubiera pasado a mi con un amigo mio...
Nunca hubiera yo tomado la Igesia que fue "arancada" de un amigo y companero que fue El Hermano Baldemar Rodriguez.
Amigos por mucho tiempo que fue el Hermano Abel Jimenez.

Pero esto indica que el Pastor Abel Jimenez de Ontario es tipo y figura de LA TRAICON QUE HAY AHORA EN LA ASAMBLEA APOSTOLICA DE LA FE EN CRISTO JESUS INCORPORADA.
QUIEN SE DISQUE Que SON HERMANOS EN CRISTO Y COMPANEROS EN LA OBRA DEL GRAN DIOS."
'
UNA COSA TENGO CONTRA TI QUE HAS DEJADO TU PRIMER AMOR, Y TE VOMITARA DE MI BOCA.
.
Siempre se ha considero el Pastor Abel Jimenez un campesino, Ranchero de algun Rancho lobrego en Mexico que ni a la escuela primaria fue.

El lo comprovo con su triazon a su Hermano en Cristo. De asumir la Iglesia que fue "arancada" tan despotamente.
Arancada por El Obispo Lugo, que hace muy poco tiempo era una de la Calle.
Y por Sanchez, que estaba alli gososo y no metio mano para ayudar a su Hermano que experimentaba dolor y anjustia como por unos "malvados del Barrio"

Siendo avergonzado tan cruel mente, y sin conscienca.
QUE TODO EL MUNDO LO VIO. Y SANCHEZ QUE YA ESTA SIN CONCIENSA, NADA SIENTE.
Como se le puede confiar a este Tipo de Pastor "Nada."..Si a su mejor amigo lo triasiono.

NUESTROS JOVENES, SON MUY EDUCADOS Y INFORMADOS ELLOS NO SON COMO NOSOTROS, LOS PASADOS QUE NO 'DECIANOS NADA''
ESTO YA ESTA MUY AVANCADO Y ELLOS VAN A DESANIMARSE MUCHISIMO.

SEVAN A IR A OTRAS DOMINACIONES...
Y A PASTOR DANIEL SANCHEZ NO LE IMPORTA PORQUE SUS HIJAS SE FUERON A OTRA DOMINACION, Y HASTA UN HERMANO DE EL SE FUE A LA IGLESIA CATOLICA.

Que Dios tenga misericordia de Ustedes. Pero ustedes estan muy felizes en
'SU LINDO CAFETAL.'

YA NO TIENEN AMOR NI CONSCIENCA. COMO PUEDEN TOMAR SUS PULPITOS Y HABLARLE A LAS ALMAS DEL AMOR DE DIOS. CUANDO USTEDES ESTAN VIENDO A SUS HERMANOS uno por uno ser totalmente sido sin misericordia ser teminados de su Ministerios, que Dios les encomendo.

POR UNOS QUE HICIERON 'FRAUDE Y SE BURLARON DE USTEDES CON ABUSARE DE USTEDES EN LAS ELECIONES EN LONG BEACH.
NOS TUBIERON POR HORAS ENTERAS.

Y HOMBRES COMO PASTOR MISAEL ZARAGOSA QUE SIN MISERICORDIA LOS ENTRETENIA QUE 'CHISTES Y BROMAS'

CON ENGANO Y TRAICION...DONDE ESTA EL MACHISMO HISPANO., QUE ES EL ORGULLO DE USTEDES. .....

QUE DIOS TENGA MISERICORDIA DE NNOSOTROS Y DE SUS HIJOS.

DONDE ESTA SU FAMOSO MACHISMO....PATRONISMO Y NACIONALISMO....DONDE ESTA'???''

NO TIENEN VERGUENSA SER HUMILADOS TOTAL MENTE DERROTADA NUESTRA AMADA IGLESIA. PORQUE ESTOS MUNIPULADORES Y CONTROLADORES QUE NO LES COSTO NADA.
Y COMO "TOROS EN UNA CASA DE 'CRISTAL'
VINERON A DERIBAR TODO Y NOSOTROS NOMAS VENIENDO
....
LA MESA DIRECTIVA SABEN MUY BIEN QUE NOSOTROS NO ESTAN UNIDOS......

Y SABEN SUS DEBELIDADES, QUE NO TIENEMOS UN 'LIDER PATRIARCA' QUE LOS REPRESENTE....
QUE TODOS YA SE FUERON CON EL SENOR.

Y QUE USTEDES NO TOMARON EL EJEMPO DE DEFENDER LA OBRA DE DIOS A CAPA Y A ESPADA.
COMO ELLOS LO DEFENDIERON.

COMO HIZO DAVID CONTRA 'SAUL' Y DAVID CONTRA GOLIATH.

Cuando alguien quiere conquistar a alguien. Primeramente le estudia sus debelidades,
y con eso los derrota.

Si leen la Biblia, de que les sirve?
Si no toman las experiencia del Pueblo de Israel contra los enemigos que fueron tantos durante la Perenigracion.

Dios tenga miseridordia de Nosotros...
Unos de esos que va en el medio del Camino, y no es sincero, son muchos...

Pero el champion es Pastor Juan Hernandez de Oceanside, y muchos otros.

EL TRAISIONA A CUALQUIERA POR THE MESA.
Ore al Snor que Tenga miseericodia de nosotros con estos "Barbaos" Sin temor a Dios. Ni amor a la Iglesia.

"Levantate tu que duermes y de alumbrar Cristo"

No le tengan miedo son unos covardes. Que nomas se acaba el servicio de la Convention y corren a sus cuartos. pORQUE CORREN A LOS CUARTOS DEL HOTEL. PORQUE TIENEN MIEDO QUE SE LES LEVANTE EL PUEBLO.

PER NOSOTROS LOS PASTORES LOS ESTAMOS APOLLANDO PORQUE NO LES DECIMOS A NUESTOS MIEMBROS. SI LE DIJERANOS CLARAMENTE A NUESTROS MIEMBROS. EL PUEBLO SE LEVANTARIA CONTRO ESTOS 9.
ELLOS SON NOMAS NUEVE...NOMAS 9 NOMAS 9 NOMAS 9. NOSOTROS SOMOS MAS DE MIL,,,,,,
PERO NO ESTAMOS UNIDOS Y ELLOS SI ESTAN...ELLOS SIN ESTAN Y NOMAS SON '9'
SON NOMAS 9. SON NOMAS 9 SON NOMAS 9 ..

JOSUE Y Caleb eran nomas 2.
Josue y Caleb eran nomas 2..
Josue y Caleb eran nomas 2.

Pero eran valientes.....
Y TENIAN A DIOS EN SU NOTICIA..
Y TENIAN A DIOS EN SU NOTICIA.......

PORQUE LES TENENMOS MIEDO. A 9.
NOMAS SON 9.....

PORQUE YA NO TENEMOS A DIOS A NUESTRA NOTICIA..POR ESO....POR ESO. NO TENEMOS A DIOS EN NUESTRA NOTICIA.

'OH SI DICE USTED...';DIOS NOS HA BENDECIDO...HEMOS TENIDO HERMOSOS SERVICES Y BAUTISMOS..

PERO QUE TANTO LE VA DURAR ESTO?...

LA MEMBRECIA NO TIENE LA CABEZA ENTRE LA ARENA..COMO EL ABERTRUZ...

LA MIEMBRE ES INTELLIGENTE Y INFORMADA..

NOS VAN A DEJAR. POR QUE NOS VAN A DEJAR...A NUESTRAS IGLESAS VACIAS..

DIOS TENGA MISERICORDIA DE USTED.Y DE MI..
No sea que se le afrente un Gedeon....

ESTAMOS SENDIO DERROTADOS
POR HOMBRES DE LA MESA DIRECTIVA QUE YA NO TIENE TEMOR A DIOS..

'CON ESTO CONOCERIS QUE SON MIS DISCIPULOS QUE OS AMEIS LOS UNOS A LOS OTROS. ELLOS NO NO S AMAN...
NOMAS QUIEREN NUESTRO DINERO DE NUESTRAS IGLESIAS.
TODO SI LES ES POSIBLE.

DUERMA BIEN A QUE SU TIEMPO SEGARAN....

LES AMO MUCHISIMO. Y ORO POR USTEDES.
DIOS LES BENDIGA.

'ACUERDESE EN LA CONVENCION EN TEXAS.
ELLOS NOMAS SON 9.........

PERO NOSOTROS NO TENEMOS 'REPRESENTACION'

SIENTEN A MISAEL ZARAGOZA ES UN CHARLATAN...Y ADAN LOPES...UN RECOJEDOR DE NUESTRO DINERO DE NUESTROS QURIDOS HERMANOS Y HERMANAS. Y JOVENES. Y AUN NINOS.

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JUST AN OBSERVATION;;;
FROM A LITTLE BIT OF EXPERIENCE;

LOOK OUT IN DENVER FOR 'SPIES. SORT OF THE LIKES OF PASTOR JUAN HERNANDEZ FROM OCEANSIDE.
HE IS EXTREMELY INSINCERE..
Has something going on with the Church's secretary.. But Sanchez looks the other way. Because Brother Hernandez, that used to be the Bishop of that area is very informative to D. Sanchez and the GB. Tells them everything and more.

Also we have to pray because the only Pastor there in Denver that was with AA and kept The Church property is Bishop Abel Torres..

This is very discouraging to church going members.
I know because "renting" does not give the members "ssecurity of their own church.

This we have to pray about.

But the AA if it follows this pattern of "removing" Pastors will be "left" with the mortage of the
property. And no members to continue paying the mortage.
This is where in AA will be in tough bind to get a new Pastor with no congregation or Sell the property.
ESPANOL A TODO PASTOR;

Estoy total mente enojado y desepzionado en la "triacion" de Pastor Abel Jimenez de Ontario, cuando tomo el Pastorado de la Iglesia de San Bernardino.

Esto se ve de la
mucha hipocrecia que hay en la Asamblea Apostolica, cuando un amigo como fue el Ex. Presidente Baldemar Rodriguez, con the Pastor Abel Jimenez de Ontario, y con eso le paga.

Que EL HERMANO BALDEMAR lo saco "Del Rancho", como quien dice. AL HERMANO ABEL JIMENEZ y trato de hacerlo "gente" y no lo logro.
Porque al fin tomo la ruta de La M directiva. Al lado del opuesto, contra su amigo que fue el Pastor Baldemar para el Pastor Abel Jimenez.


Con esto se pagan los favores..
Quien le puede tener confianza a un Pastor o hombre como Pastor Abel Jimenez, que le dio la espalda a su amigo Obispo Baldemar Rodriguez.

Bueno, usted puede decir, "pero el Hermano Baldemar demando a la AA."

Bueno si, pero, por cuasas "justificadas que ustedes todos los Pastores no tienen la Valentia de hacer.
POR FRAUDE..Si no que siguen que los "sanjanos que el quitan, y le quitan y les quitan.
Se burlan en las convenciones de todo el dinero que les quitan...Y nunca tienen suficiente.

Por los $10,000.00 por meses que reciben, y los $4,000.00 de cada iglesia no lo es suficiente.
Y son tan 'ABSOLUTOS QUE NO EL DAN REPORTE A NOSTROS QUE TANTO RECEIBEN MENSUAL.
QUE ES UNA VERGUENZA QUE ESTE TIEMPOR, DIFERENTE A LOS PASADOS, QUE TIENEN PUESTO EN LA MESA DIRECTIVA Y TAMBIEN UNA IGLESIA QUE LE DA BASTANTE DINERO.

EN TIEMPO PASADOS ERA NECESARIO ESTO, PORQUE NO HABIAN TANTAS ENTREADAS, PERO ESTOS ENTRE 'MAS LE DEN USTEDES MAS QUIEREN.' NO TIENE FIN...

Preparece con sin menos de $10,000.00 o mas que va tener que dar en la convencion .
y USTEDES SABEN BIEN QUE NO LES PUEDEN NEGAR.....O DES DAN 'BOLA NEGRA"....

Pero, digamos que el Pastor Abel Jimenez queria peremanecer con la Asamblea.
Bueno si...Pero No Tome la Iglesia que le quitaron a quien fue su amigo y hermano en Cristo....

Si quiera por 'amistad' y confianza, que tubikeron muchos tiempo.

Pero ,Pastores no hay que tenerle confianza a nadie. Si su mejor amigo no lo apoya...que entonces hara usted? A que le va ha tener confianza. Si su mejor amigo le dice todo a Sanchez y a la mesa directiva.

Esto me recuerda de los Tiempos con "Hitler" contra El Pueblo Judio"
Que uno y otro se traizionaba a su mejor Amigo.
Estos son tiempos muy peligrosos.

Que hermano en Cristo triazona a su Hermano..

Tiempos de la Apostacia.

Que Verguenza......

Yo diria que si esto me hubiera pasado a mi con un amigo mio...
Nunca hubiera yo tomado la Igesia que fue "arancada" de un amigo y companero que fue El Hermano Baldemar Rodriguez.
Amigos por mucho tiempo que fue el Hermano Abel Jimenez.

Pero esto indica que el Pastor Abel Jimenez de Ontario es tipo y figura de LA TRAICON QUE HAY AHORA EN LA ASAMBLEA APOSTOLICA DE LA FE EN CRISTO JESUS INCORPORADA.
QUIEN SE DISQUE Que SON HERMANOS EN CRISTO Y COMPANEROS EN LA OBRA DEL GRAN DIOS."
'
UNA COSA TENGO CONTRA TI QUE HAS DEJADO TU PRIMER AMOR, Y TE VOMITARA DE MI BOCA.
.
Siempre se ha considero el Pastor Abel Jimenez un campesino, Ranchero de algun Rancho lobrego en Mexico que ni a la escuela primaria fue.

El lo comprovo con su triazon a su Hermano en Cristo. De asumir la Iglesia que fue "arancada" tan despotamente.
Arancada por El Obispo Lugo, que hace muy poco tiempo era una de la Calle.
Y por Sanchez, que estaba alli gososo y no metio mano para ayudar a su Hermano que experimentaba dolor y anjustia como por unos "malvados del Barrio"

Siendo avergonzado tan cruel mente, y sin conscienca.
QUE TODO EL MUNDO LO VIO. Y SANCHEZ QUE YA ESTA SIN CONCIENSA, NADA SIENTE.
Como se le puede confiar a este Tipo de Pastor "Nada."..Si a su mejor amigo lo triasiono.

NUESTROS JOVENES, SON MUY EDUCADOS Y INFORMADOS ELLOS NO SON COMO NOSOTROS, LOS PASADOS QUE NO 'DECIANOS NADA''
ESTO YA ESTA MUY AVANCADO Y ELLOS VAN A DESANIMARSE MUCHISIMO.

SEVAN A IR A OTRAS DOMINACIONES...
Y A PASTOR DANIEL SANCHEZ NO LE IMPORTA PORQUE SUS HIJAS SE FUERON A OTRA DOMINACION, Y HASTA UN HERMANO DE EL SE FUE A LA IGLESIA CATOLICA.

Que Dios tenga misericordia de Ustedes. Pero ustedes estan muy felizes en
'SU LINDO CAFETAL.'

YA NO TIENEN AMOR NI CONSCIENCA. COMO PUEDEN TOMAR SUS PULPITOS Y HABLARLE A LAS ALMAS DEL AMOR DE DIOS. CUANDO USTEDES ESTAN VIENDO A SUS HERMANOS uno por uno ser totalmente sido sin misericordia ser teminados de su Ministerios, que Dios les encomendo.

POR UNOS QUE HICIERON 'FRAUDE Y SE BURLARON DE USTEDES CON ABUSARE DE USTEDES EN LAS ELECIONES EN LONG BEACH.
NOS TUBIERON POR HORAS ENTERAS.

Y HOMBRES COMO PASTOR MISAEL ZARAGOSA QUE SIN MISERICORDIA LOS ENTRETENIA QUE 'CHISTES Y BROMAS'

CON ENGANO Y TRAICION...DONDE ESTA EL MACHISMO HISPANO., QUE ES EL ORGULLO DE USTEDES. .....

QUE DIOS TENGA MISERICORDIA DE NNOSOTROS Y DE SUS HIJOS.

DONDE ESTA SU FAMOSO MACHISMO....PATRONISMO Y NACIONALISMO....DONDE ESTA'???''

NO TIENEN VERGUENSA SER HUMILADOS TOTAL MENTE DERROTADA NUESTRA AMADA IGLESIA. PORQUE ESTOS MUNIPULADORES Y CONTROLADORES QUE NO LES COSTO NADA.
Y COMO "TOROS EN UNA CASA DE 'CRISTAL'
VINERON A DERIBAR TODO Y NOSOTROS NOMAS VENIENDO
....
LA MESA DIRECTIVA SABEN MUY BIEN QUE NOSOTROS NO ESTAN UNIDOS......

Y SABEN SUS DEBELIDADES, QUE NO TIENEMOS UN 'LIDER PATRIARCA' QUE LOS REPRESENTE....
QUE TODOS YA SE FUERON CON EL SENOR.

Y QUE USTEDES NO TOMARON EL EJEMPO DE DEFENDER LA OBRA DE DIOS A CAPA Y A ESPADA.
COMO ELLOS LO DEFENDIERON.

COMO HIZO DAVID CONTRA 'SAUL' Y DAVID CONTRA GOLIATH.

Cuando alguien quiere conquistar a alguien. Primeramente le estudia sus debelidades,
y con eso los derrota.

Si leen la Biblia, de que les sirve?
Si no toman las experiencia del Pueblo de Israel contra los enemigos que fueron tantos durante la Perenigracion.

Dios tenga miseridordia de Nosotros...
Unos de esos que va en el medio del Camino, y no es sincero, son muchos...

Pero el champion es Pastor Juan Hernandez de Oceanside, y muchos otros.

EL TRAISIONA A CUALQUIERA POR THE MESA.
Ore al Snor que Tenga miseericodia de nosotros con estos "Barbaos" Sin temor a Dios. Ni amor a la Iglesia.

"Levantate tu que duermes y de alumbrar Cristo"

No le tengan miedo son unos covardes. Que nomas se acaba el servicio de la Convention y corren a sus cuartos. pORQUE CORREN A LOS CUARTOS DEL HOTEL. PORQUE TIENEN MIEDO QUE SE LES LEVANTE EL PUEBLO.

PER NOSOTROS LOS PASTORES LOS ESTAMOS APOLLANDO PORQUE NO LES DECIMOS A NUESTOS MIEMBROS. SI LE DIJERANOS CLARAMENTE A NUESTROS MIEMBROS. EL PUEBLO SE LEVANTARIA CONTRO ESTOS 9.
ELLOS SON NOMAS NUEVE...NOMAS 9 NOMAS 9 NOMAS 9. NOSOTROS SOMOS MAS DE MIL,,,,,,
PERO NO ESTAMOS UNIDOS Y ELLOS SI ESTAN...ELLOS SIN ESTAN Y NOMAS SON '9'
SON NOMAS 9. SON NOMAS 9 SON NOMAS 9 ..

JOSUE Y Caleb eran nomas 2.
Josue y Caleb eran nomas 2..
Josue y Caleb eran nomas 2.

Pero eran valientes.....
Y TENIAN A DIOS EN SU NOTICIA..
Y TENIAN A DIOS EN SU NOTICIA.......

PORQUE LES TENENMOS MIEDO. A 9.
NOMAS SON 9.....

PORQUE YA NO TENEMOS A DIOS A NUESTRA NOTICIA..POR ESO....POR ESO. NO TENEMOS A DIOS EN NUESTRA NOTICIA.

'OH SI DICE USTED...';DIOS NOS HA BENDECIDO...HEMOS TENIDO HERMOSOS SERVICES Y BAUTISMOS..

PERO QUE TANTO LE VA DURAR ESTO?...

LA MEMBRECIA NO TIENE LA CABEZA ENTRE LA ARENA..COMO EL ABERTRUZ...

LA MIEMBRE ES INTELLIGENTE Y INFORMADA..

NOS VAN A DEJAR. POR QUE NOS VAN A DEJAR...A NUESTRAS IGLESAS VACIAS..

DIOS TENGA MISERICORDIA DE USTED.Y DE MI..
No sea que se le afrente un Gedeon....

ESTAMOS SENDIO DERROTADOS
POR HOMBRES DE LA MESA DIRECTIVA QUE YA NO TIENE TEMOR A DIOS..

'CON ESTO CONOCERIS QUE SON MIS DISCIPULOS QUE OS AMEIS LOS UNOS A LOS OTROS. ELLOS NO NO S AMAN...
NOMAS QUIEREN NUESTRO DINERO DE NUESTRAS IGLESIAS.
TODO SI LES ES POSIBLE.

DUERMA BIEN A QUE SU TIEMPO SEGARAN....

LES AMO MUCHISIMO. Y ORO POR USTEDES.
DIOS LES BENDIGA.

'ACUERDESE EN LA CONVENCION EN TEXAS.
ELLOS NOMAS SON 9.........

PERO NOSOTROS NO TENEMOS 'REPRESENTACION'

SIENTEN A MISAEL ZARAGOZA ES UN CHARLATAN...Y ADAN LOPES...UN RECOJEDOR DE NUESTRO DINERO DE NUESTROS QURIDOS HERMANOS Y HERMANAS. Y JOVENES. Y AUN NINOS.

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Thought for the day said...

JUST AN OBSERVATION;;;
FROM A LITTLE BIT OF EXPERIENCE;

LOOK OUT IN DENVER FOR 'SPIES. SORT OF THE LIKES OF PASTOR JUAN HERNANDEZ FROM OCEANSIDE.
HE IS EXTREMELY INSINCERE..
Has something going on with the Church's secretary.. But Sanchez looks the other way. Because Brother Hernandez, that used to be the Bishop of that area is very informative to D. Sanchez and the GB. Tells them everything and more.

Also we have to pray because the only Pastor there in Denver that was with AA and kept The Church property is Bishop Abel Torres..

This is very discouraging to church going members.
I know because "renting" does not give the members "ssecurity of their own church.

This we have to pray about.

But the AA if it follows this pattern of "removing" Pastors will be "left" with the mortage of the
property. And no members to continue paying the mortage.
This is where in AA will be in tough bind to get a new Pastor with no congregation or Sell the property.
ESPANOL A TODO PASTOR;

Estoy total mente enojado y desepzionado en la "triacion" de Pastor Abel Jimenez de Ontario, cuando tomo el Pastorado de la Iglesia de San Bernardino.

Esto se ve de la
mucha hipocrecia que hay en la Asamblea Apostolica, cuando un amigo como fue el Ex. Presidente Baldemar Rodriguez, con the Pastor Abel Jimenez de Ontario, y con eso le paga.

Que EL HERMANO BALDEMAR lo saco "Del Rancho", como quien dice. AL HERMANO ABEL JIMENEZ y trato de hacerlo "gente" y no lo logro.
Porque al fin tomo la ruta de La M directiva. Al lado del opuesto, contra su amigo que fue el Pastor Baldemar para el Pastor Abel Jimenez.


Con esto se pagan los favores..
Quien le puede tener confianza a un Pastor o hombre como Pastor Abel Jimenez, que le dio la espalda a su amigo Obispo Baldemar Rodriguez.

Bueno, usted puede decir, "pero el Hermano Baldemar demando a la AA."

Bueno si, pero, por cuasas "justificadas que ustedes todos los Pastores no tienen la Valentia de hacer.
POR FRAUDE..Si no que siguen que los "sanjanos que el quitan, y le quitan y les quitan.
Se burlan en las convenciones de todo el dinero que les quitan...Y nunca tienen suficiente.

Por los $10,000.00 por meses que reciben, y los $4,000.00 de cada iglesia no lo es suficiente.
Y son tan 'ABSOLUTOS QUE NO EL DAN REPORTE A NOSTROS QUE TANTO RECEIBEN MENSUAL.
QUE ES UNA VERGUENZA QUE ESTE TIEMPOR, DIFERENTE A LOS PASADOS, QUE TIENEN PUESTO EN LA MESA DIRECTIVA Y TAMBIEN UNA IGLESIA QUE LE DA BASTANTE DINERO.

EN TIEMPO PASADOS ERA NECESARIO ESTO, PORQUE NO HABIAN TANTAS ENTREADAS, PERO ESTOS ENTRE 'MAS LE DEN USTEDES MAS QUIEREN.' NO TIENE FIN...

Preparece con sin menos de $10,000.00 o mas que va tener que dar en la convencion .
y USTEDES SABEN BIEN QUE NO LES PUEDEN NEGAR.....O DES DAN 'BOLA NEGRA"....

Pero, digamos que el Pastor Abel Jimenez queria peremanecer con la Asamblea.
Bueno si...Pero No Tome la Iglesia que le quitaron a quien fue su amigo y hermano en Cristo....

Si quiera por 'amistad' y confianza, que tubikeron muchos tiempo.

Pero ,Pastores no hay que tenerle confianza a nadie. Si su mejor amigo no lo apoya...que entonces hara usted? A que le va ha tener confianza. Si su mejor amigo le dice todo a Sanchez y a la mesa directiva.

Esto me recuerda de los Tiempos con "Hitler" contra El Pueblo Judio"
Que uno y otro se traizionaba a su mejor Amigo.
Estos son tiempos muy peligrosos.

Que hermano en Cristo triazona a su Hermano..

Tiempos de la Apostacia.

Que Verguenza......

Yo diria que si esto me hubiera pasado a mi con un amigo mio...
Nunca hubiera yo tomado la Igesia que fue "arancada" de un amigo y companero que fue El Hermano Baldemar Rodriguez.
Amigos por mucho tiempo que fue el Hermano Abel Jimenez.

Pero esto indica que el Pastor Abel Jimenez de Ontario es tipo y figura de LA TRAICON QUE HAY AHORA EN LA ASAMBLEA APOSTOLICA DE LA FE EN CRISTO JESUS INCORPORADA.
QUIEN SE DISQUE Que SON HERMANOS EN CRISTO Y COMPANEROS EN LA OBRA DEL GRAN DIOS."
'
UNA COSA TENGO CONTRA TI QUE HAS DEJADO TU PRIMER AMOR, Y TE VOMITARA DE MI BOCA.
.
Siempre se ha considero el Pastor Abel Jimenez un campesino, Ranchero de algun Rancho lobrego en Mexico que ni a la escuela primaria fue.

El lo comprovo con su triazon a su Hermano en Cristo. De asumir la Iglesia que fue "arancada" tan despotamente.
Arancada por El Obispo Lugo, que hace muy poco tiempo era una de la Calle.
Y por Sanchez, que estaba alli gososo y no metio mano para ayudar a su Hermano que experimentaba dolor y anjustia como por unos "malvados del Barrio"

Siendo avergonzado tan cruel mente, y sin conscienca.
QUE TODO EL MUNDO LO VIO. Y SANCHEZ QUE YA ESTA SIN CONCIENSA, NADA SIENTE.
Como se le puede confiar a este Tipo de Pastor "Nada."..Si a su mejor amigo lo triasiono.

NUESTROS JOVENES, SON MUY EDUCADOS Y INFORMADOS ELLOS NO SON COMO NOSOTROS, LOS PASADOS QUE NO 'DECIANOS NADA''
ESTO YA ESTA MUY AVANCADO Y ELLOS VAN A DESANIMARSE MUCHISIMO.

SEVAN A IR A OTRAS DOMINACIONES...
Y A PASTOR DANIEL SANCHEZ NO LE IMPORTA PORQUE SUS HIJAS SE FUERON A OTRA DOMINACION, Y HASTA UN HERMANO DE EL SE FUE A LA IGLESIA CATOLICA.

Que Dios tenga misericordia de Ustedes. Pero ustedes estan muy felizes en
'SU LINDO CAFETAL.'

YA NO TIENEN AMOR NI CONSCIENCA. COMO PUEDEN TOMAR SUS PULPITOS Y HABLARLE A LAS ALMAS DEL AMOR DE DIOS. CUANDO USTEDES ESTAN VIENDO A SUS HERMANOS uno por uno ser totalmente sido sin misericordia ser teminados de su Ministerios, que Dios les encomendo.

POR UNOS QUE HICIERON 'FRAUDE Y SE BURLARON DE USTEDES CON ABUSARE DE USTEDES EN LAS ELECIONES EN LONG BEACH.
NOS TUBIERON POR HORAS ENTERAS.

Y HOMBRES COMO PASTOR MISAEL ZARAGOSA QUE SIN MISERICORDIA LOS ENTRETENIA QUE 'CHISTES Y BROMAS'

CON ENGANO Y TRAICION...DONDE ESTA EL MACHISMO HISPANO., QUE ES EL ORGULLO DE USTEDES. .....

QUE DIOS TENGA MISERICORDIA DE NNOSOTROS Y DE SUS HIJOS.

DONDE ESTA SU FAMOSO MACHISMO....PATRONISMO Y NACIONALISMO....DONDE ESTA'???''

NO TIENEN VERGUENSA SER HUMILADOS TOTAL MENTE DERROTADA NUESTRA AMADA IGLESIA. PORQUE ESTOS MUNIPULADORES Y CONTROLADORES QUE NO LES COSTO NADA.
Y COMO "TOROS EN UNA CASA DE 'CRISTAL'
VINERON A DERIBAR TODO Y NOSOTROS NOMAS VENIENDO
....
LA MESA DIRECTIVA SABEN MUY BIEN QUE NOSOTROS NO ESTAN UNIDOS......

Y SABEN SUS DEBELIDADES, QUE NO TIENEMOS UN 'LIDER PATRIARCA' QUE LOS REPRESENTE....
QUE TODOS YA SE FUERON CON EL SENOR.

Y QUE USTEDES NO TOMARON EL EJEMPO DE DEFENDER LA OBRA DE DIOS A CAPA Y A ESPADA.
COMO ELLOS LO DEFENDIERON.

COMO HIZO DAVID CONTRA 'SAUL' Y DAVID CONTRA GOLIATH.

Cuando alguien quiere conquistar a alguien. Primeramente le estudia sus debelidades,
y con eso los derrota.

Si leen la Biblia, de que les sirve?
Si no toman las experiencia del Pueblo de Israel contra los enemigos que fueron tantos durante la Perenigracion.

Dios tenga miseridordia de Nosotros...
Unos de esos que va en el medio del Camino, y no es sincero, son muchos...

Pero el champion es Pastor Juan Hernandez de Oceanside, y muchos otros.

EL TRAISIONA A CUALQUIERA POR THE MESA.
Ore al Snor que Tenga miseericodia de nosotros con estos "Barbaos" Sin temor a Dios. Ni amor a la Iglesia.

"Levantate tu que duermes y de alumbrar Cristo"

No le tengan miedo son unos covardes. Que nomas se acaba el servicio de la Convention y corren a sus cuartos. pORQUE CORREN A LOS CUARTOS DEL HOTEL. PORQUE TIENEN MIEDO QUE SE LES LEVANTE EL PUEBLO.

PER NOSOTROS LOS PASTORES LOS ESTAMOS APOLLANDO PORQUE NO LES DECIMOS A NUESTOS MIEMBROS. SI LE DIJERANOS CLARAMENTE A NUESTROS MIEMBROS. EL PUEBLO SE LEVANTARIA CONTRO ESTOS 9.
ELLOS SON NOMAS NUEVE...NOMAS 9 NOMAS 9 NOMAS 9. NOSOTROS SOMOS MAS DE MIL,,,,,,
PERO NO ESTAMOS UNIDOS Y ELLOS SI ESTAN...ELLOS SIN ESTAN Y NOMAS SON '9'
SON NOMAS 9. SON NOMAS 9 SON NOMAS 9 ..

JOSUE Y Caleb eran nomas 2.
Josue y Caleb eran nomas 2..
Josue y Caleb eran nomas 2.

Pero eran valientes.....
Y TENIAN A DIOS EN SU NOTICIA..
Y TENIAN A DIOS EN SU NOTICIA.......

PORQUE LES TENENMOS MIEDO. A 9.
NOMAS SON 9.....

PORQUE YA NO TENEMOS A DIOS A NUESTRA NOTICIA..POR ESO....POR ESO. NO TENEMOS A DIOS EN NUESTRA NOTICIA.

'OH SI DICE USTED...';DIOS NOS HA BENDECIDO...HEMOS TENIDO HERMOSOS SERVICES Y BAUTISMOS..

PERO QUE TANTO LE VA DURAR ESTO?...

LA MEMBRECIA NO TIENE LA CABEZA ENTRE LA ARENA..COMO EL ABERTRUZ...

LA MIEMBRE ES INTELLIGENTE Y INFORMADA..

NOS VAN A DEJAR. POR QUE NOS VAN A DEJAR...A NUESTRAS IGLESAS VACIAS..

DIOS TENGA MISERICORDIA DE USTED.Y DE MI..
No sea que se le afrente un Gedeon....

ESTAMOS SENDIO DERROTADOS
POR HOMBRES DE LA MESA DIRECTIVA QUE YA NO TIENE TEMOR A DIOS..

'CON ESTO CONOCERIS QUE SON MIS DISCIPULOS QUE OS AMEIS LOS UNOS A LOS OTROS. ELLOS NO NO S AMAN...
NOMAS QUIEREN NUESTRO DINERO DE NUESTRAS IGLESIAS.
TODO SI LES ES POSIBLE.

DUERMA BIEN A QUE SU TIEMPO SEGARAN....

LES AMO MUCHISIMO. Y ORO POR USTEDES.
DIOS LES BENDIGA.

'ACUERDESE EN LA CONVENCION EN TEXAS.
ELLOS NOMAS SON 9.........

PERO NOSOTROS NO TENEMOS 'REPRESENTACION'

SIENTEN A MISAEL ZARAGOZA ES UN CHARLATAN...Y ADAN LOPES...UN RECOJEDOR DE NUESTRO DINERO DE NUESTROS QURIDOS HERMANOS Y HERMANAS. Y JOVENES. Y AUN NINOS.

. said...

There is life and ministry out side of the AA! The AA is not the church! You are the church!

The AA is a dysfunctional organization!

Walk out with your head up high!
walk out with honor!

Don't let the AA be your God!

. said...

Has anyone ever heard of Samuel Sandate?

He is family to Pastor Sandate from Rosenburg Tx...

Samuel was "minister in charged" of a work in Salt Lake City Ut...

In one year Bro Samuel who started with no members had 40 members most all were baptized in Jesus Name by Samuel Sandate. He was renting a Methodist building and was having revival...

About 2 months ago, Samuel told his pastor how the work was growing and wanted to move it to a bigger location. Samuel's pastor told him don't worry, I'll take care of it. That same week, Samuel's pastor "removed Samuel" as minister in charge! He then merged the new-work with his church. When Samuel questioned these actions his pastor told him, I cannot make you a pastor, because you don't have your papers...

This has nothing to do with the 2006 appointments, however it is still an injustice! This young minister raised a work/church from the ground up, only to have another man take it for himself!

This was another "lynching"
how long will this continue?

If you go to
iglesiaapostolicadeprovo.org
you will see more pictures of bro. Samuel Sandate preaching then the local pastor....

Pastors,Minister,Saints
you must stop this once and for all!

Please do your best to attend
The Apostolic Summit 2008!

*********************************

There was a trinitarian church that requested a Apostolic pastor.
God opened the doors for Samuel Sandate! As of this week, he has relocated to Las Vegas NV.
And is now Pastor Samuel Sandate!
To God be the GLORY!

He is not with the AA anymore, he is under Los Pentecostales en el desierto it's Apostolic Pentecostal. If anyone fron Las Vegas NV. interested in helping out in any form of ministry please contact "healingnow@live.com"
They can give you more info...

Just this week he baptized 5 trinitarians in the name of JESUS!

This is a trinitarian church that contacted Apostolics for a pastor!

This is awesome people! The world is hungry for what we have!
Get ready for revival!

Apostolic Summit 2008!

...................................

This brother baptized my mom and dad!I just got into church and was wondering what happened with him.
We were told he back slid,i cant believe i'm reading about him here.

Our youth is planing on going to Apostolic Summit, will bro.Sandate be there too?

Thought for the day said...

Dear Bloggers
Praise the Lord:

Please accept my apology. Because of my age and "lack of computer knowledge I blogged so many..

The first message is for English speaking. (readers)
The second the Lord instilled in my heart to write tonight to the
AA Paastors..

Iam trying to tell them that there will be alot of "spies in Denver.
Also that the Gb know our "weaknesses and the main one is that WE PASTORS ARE NOT UNITED.


THE MAIN TOPIC IS THE BETRAYAL OF Brother Abel Jimenez from San Bernardino that had the audity to "assume' the church taken so cruely dfrom "Brother Baldemar, who had been Abel Jimenez friend for many yeares.

The third and most important that we are only against 9 board members 9 board members. 9 just 9.
But because of the "strength the Gb has is from the unwilling to "unite pastors. And how the Pastors we do not tell the congreatins of this Law suit..


Lets pray for the Pastors we will unite and ask God for mercy to Help us against 9 9 9
GBM. Only 9 Only 9 Only 9 For Heaven's samke only 9.......
We are over 1,ooo,000 mopre if we only had a leader a Patraiach, but we have a "joker" like Misale Zaraqgosa, a pranster and joker that is part of their conspiracy. He is the on e that they give to us to entrain us durng the elections.
So we can laugh, and sleep.



God bless you

I love you all. Goodnight.

We will Prevail in Jesus name.

Thought for the day said...

Dear Bloggers
Praise the Lord:

Please accept my apology. Because of my age and "lack of computer knowledge I blogged so many..

The first message is for English speaking. (readers)
The second the Lord instilled in my heart to write tonight to the
AA Paastors..

Iam trying to tell them that there will be alot of "spies in Denver.
Also that the Gb know our "weaknesses and the main one is that WE PASTORS ARE NOT UNITED.


THE MAIN TOPIC IS THE BETRAYAL OF Brother Abel Jimenez from San Bernardino that had the audity to "assume' the church taken so cruely dfrom "Brother Baldemar, who had been Abel Jimenez friend for many yeares.

The third and most important that we are only against 9 board members 9 board members. 9 just 9.
But because of the "strength the Gb has is from the unwilling to "unite pastors. And how the Pastors we do not tell the congreatins of this Law suit..


Lets pray for the Pastors we will unite and ask God for mercy to Help us against 9 9 9
GBM. Only 9 Only 9 Only 9 For Heaven's samke only 9.......
We are over 1,ooo,000 mopre if we only had a leader a Patraiach, but we have a "joker" like Misale Zaraqgosa, a pranster and joker that is part of their conspiracy. He is the on e that they give to us to entrain us durng the elections.
So we can laugh, and sleep.



God bless you

I love you all. Goodnight.

We will Prevail in Jesus name.

Thought for the day said...

Dear Bloggers
Praise the Lord:

Please accept my apology. Because of my age and "lack of computer knowledge I blogged so many..

The first message is for English speaking. (readers)
The second the Lord instilled in my heart to write tonight to the
AA Paastors..

Iam trying to tell them that there will be alot of "spies in Denver.
Also that the Gb know our "weaknesses and the main one is that WE PASTORS ARE NOT UNITED.


THE MAIN TOPIC IS THE BETRAYAL OF Brother Abel Jimenez from San Bernardino that had the audity to "assume' the church taken so cruely dfrom "Brother Baldemar, who had been Abel Jimenez friend for many yeares.

The third and most important that we are only against 9 board members 9 board members. 9 just 9.
But because of the "strength the Gb has is from the unwilling to "unite pastors. And how the Pastors we do not tell the congreatins of this Law suit..


Lets pray for the Pastors we will unite and ask God for mercy to Help us against 9 9 9
GBM. Only 9 Only 9 Only 9 For Heaven's samke only 9.......
We are over 1,ooo,000 mopre if we only had a leader a Patraiach, but we have a "joker" like Misale Zaraqgosa, a pranster and joker that is part of their conspiracy. He is the on e that they give to us to entrain us durng the elections.
So we can laugh, and sleep.



God bless you

I love you all. Goodnight.

We will Prevail in Jesus name.

Thought for the day said...

Dear Bloggers
Praise the Lord:

Please accept my apology. Because of my age and "lack of computer knowledge I blogged so many..

The first message is for English speaking. (readers)
The second the Lord instilled in my heart to write tonight to the
AA Paastors..

Iam trying to tell them that there will be alot of "spies in Denver.
Also that the Gb know our "weaknesses and the main one is that WE PASTORS ARE NOT UNITED.


THE MAIN TOPIC IS THE BETRAYAL OF Brother Abel Jimenez from San Bernardino that had the audity to "assume' the church taken so cruely dfrom "Brother Baldemar, who had been Abel Jimenez friend for many yeares.

The third and most important that we are only against 9 board members 9 board members. 9 just 9.
But because of the "strength the Gb has is from the unwilling to "unite pastors. And how the Pastors we do not tell the congreatins of this Law suit..


Lets pray for the Pastors we will unite and ask God for mercy to Help us against 9 9 9
GBM. Only 9 Only 9 Only 9 For Heaven's samke only 9.......
We are over 1,ooo,000 mopre if we only had a leader a Patraiach, but we have a "joker" like Misale Zaraqgosa, a pranster and joker that is part of their conspiracy. He is the on e that they give to us to entrain us durng the elections.
So we can laugh, and sleep.



God bless you

I love you all. Goodnight.

We will Prevail in Jesus name.

Thought for the day said...

Dear Bloggers
Praise the Lord:

Please accept my apology. Because of my age and "lack of computer knowledge I blogged so many..

The first message is for English speaking. (readers)
The second the Lord instilled in my heart to write tonight to the
AA Paastors..

Iam trying to tell them that there will be alot of "spies in Denver.
Also that the Gb know our "weaknesses and the main one is that WE PASTORS ARE NOT UNITED.


THE MAIN TOPIC IS THE BETRAYAL OF Brother Abel Jimenez from San Bernardino that had the audity to "assume' the church taken so cruely dfrom "Brother Baldemar, who had been Abel Jimenez friend for many yeares.

The third and most important that we are only against 9 board members 9 board members. 9 just 9.
But because of the "strength the Gb has is from the unwilling to "unite pastors. And how the Pastors we do not tell the congreatins of this Law suit..


Lets pray for the Pastors we will unite and ask God for mercy to Help us against 9 9 9
GBM. Only 9 Only 9 Only 9 For Heaven's samke only 9.......
We are over 1,ooo,000 mopre if we only had a leader a Patraiach, but we have a "joker" like Misale Zaraqgosa, a pranster and joker that is part of their conspiracy. He is the on e that they give to us to entrain us durng the elections.
So we can laugh, and sleep.



God bless you

I love you all. Goodnight.

We will Prevail in Jesus name.

Unknown said...

To: Thought for the Day

You continue to insult Bishop Sanchez & Bishop Valverde when you say the only receive $4,000.00 from their church. That is a lie!! STOP IT NOW!

They in fact receive $9,000.00alone from their local churches base salary plus and a all expense account for meetings, house utilities,etc...then they receive another $10,000.00 from us here at the general offices and also a corporate American Express card with the Apostolic Assembly name on it.

Their churches bring in $45,000.00 and $65,000.00 respectively a month.

Thought for the day, in your day $4,000.00 was a lot but I know the truth because I see the books.

So stop your lies!! The correct amount is $20,000.00+ total salary not $14,000.00.

Get your facts straight!

WatchOut! said...

Okay so I guess that explains the MANSIONS! Then they come for their visits to the districts and expect their lodging to be paid for by the "poor" district. There are some districts who barely struggle along and their pastors "wages" if lucky are but $1500 a month. If you do the math $1500 is not even 10% of $20,000. Not only that they (gb) expect to be driven to and from the airport, as if $20k+ per month isn't enough to hail a cab. Next they'll want a "gbmobile" and the sammies and factsonly's of the AA will be running around throwing rose petals.

LL said...

Caairmo, Denver schedule is above you.

Thoforday, the churches that have left the aa are better off renting now. They are still going to court. Also they don't have a mortgage anymore.
*Las iglesias que sean apartado de la asamblea estan mejor que renten porque estan llendo a corte toda via(unas) Y ahora to tiene (epoqueta)pagor , impuestos y reparaciones de la propiedad.

German, I think I was the closes regarding the salaries(gb) I had mentioned in the previous blogs between 7,000-9,000 per month.
**Creo que le llegue mas cerca a los salarios de la m.directiva cuando dije entre $7,000-$9,000 por mes.

Everyone I will not be able to attend the Summit , I have other responsabilites. I will make plans to attend Next Year!!!!!
Wear your blog name!

**Desafortunada mente no podre ir al Summit en Denver . Tengo otras responsabilidades pero hare planes para atender el proximo ano!!!(donde sea)

truth said...

(camindo voy)

Well my brother or sister for your info they do have a GB mobile its a LEXUS I have seen BISHOP PRESIDENT DAN SANCHEZ driving it and that one the AA pays for it and if I'm wrong (germain) could correct me after all he/she sees the books for the general office..

Hello? Is this thing on? said...
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Hello? Is this thing on? said...

comenting on an earlier political comment.

When Gore was running against Bush, The pastor from S.Gate (member of GB) said that we should all vote for Gore per conviction! What in world??????? I thought to myself... "Arn't we supposed to vote Christlike? In everything? Well, now the "Buzz" is on McKain and that chick from Alaska... Is it just me, or does the GB tell you how to vote? Like the Unions monetary contributions where you have no choice? What is their vote based on? What are theire convictions?

This is a Riot!!!!! LOL!

sola dei gloria said...

Therefore we were buried with Him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

Romans 6:4


Conversion should bring us into a new way of thinking. Christ did not die for His people to remain stagnant in an old system of beliefs and conduct.

The Apostolic Assembly has left many us mentally lethargic. We are no longer responding to “religious experiences”. Religious experience is not God’s method of renewal. Paul told the Colossians, “ …the new man who is renewed in knowledge according to the image of Him who created him”. The “mind” must be engaged in Christian service because the mind is where man receives God’s revelation. Without God’s revelation, man becomes a candidate for error.

To many Apostolic preachers believe the bible is a launch pad for an “emotional experience”. We don’t advance the believers faith. We only increase his passion. After a certain period of time, his passion diminishes with tribulation.

There is a genuine Theology to preaching Apostolicos. The Apostolic Assembly does not have it. They preach to “motivate” not to “mature”. They preach to “excite” not to “endure”. They preach for “goals” not for “God”.

Jesus said, “My words are spirit and life”. There is no spiritual life without the word. Passion without scripture is just emotion.

O foolish Apostolicos who has bewitched you?

WatchOut! said...

sola de gloria

Speak for ownself! "Mentally lethargic" maybe you and a few that you know, don't generalize. I'm sorry but to me you always sound so judgmental, like you're sitting up on some high pedestal dishing out judgment.

sola dei gloria said...

Thank you for proving my point.

Unknown said...

Thats not bad money the gb makes. Like an ATM. Apostolic Teller Machine.

But are there any "Kick backs" that the AA Real Estate Department give Malverde?

Have any of your churches been forced to refinance? The bank charges its fees for the loan, then the real estate department charges its fee for the same loan.

You are getting double dipped.

Is this legal? Can a 501c3 charge lending fees?

LL said...

Mecha,

The gb would not care because they are not paying for all the fees, The HERMANOS ARE!!

**La m.directiva no pagaria los cargos de los prestamos sino los HERMANOS!!(que siguen mandando los diezmos y ofrendas)

factsonly1 said...

sola_dei_gloria,
I echo your words. Sadly enough, even though your post is trivial and simple, the AA fails miserably on even these very trivial Biblical principles.

In fact, you hit someone's sensitive nerve who had no idea what you said (AHEM - camino_voy).

The AA is becoming more and more irrelevant to Christianity as a whole. Based upon it's past and present dealings, it is destined to self-destruct very soon.

LL said...

Hello is This One?

You can vote for whoever you want!

LL said...

Blogmaster

What's the count on the cities that are blogging in?

. said...

Has anyone ever heard of Samuel Sandate?

He is family to Pastor Sandate from Rosenburg Tx...

Samuel was "minister in charged" of a work in Salt Lake City Ut...

In one year Bro Samuel who started with no members had 40 members most all were baptized in Jesus Name by Samuel Sandate. He was renting a Methodist building and was having revival...

About 2 months ago, Samuel told his pastor how the work was growing and wanted to move it to a bigger location. Samuel's pastor told him don't worry, I'll take care of it. That same week, Samuel's pastor "removed Samuel" as minister in charge! He then merged the new-work with his church. When Samuel questioned these actions his pastor told him, I cannot make you a pastor, because you don't have your papers...

This has nothing to do with the 2006 appointments, however it is still an injustice! This young minister raised a work/church from the ground up, only to have another man take it for himself!

This was another "lynching"
how long will this continue?

If you go to
iglesiaapostolicadeprovo.org
you will see more pictures of bro. Samuel Sandate preaching then the local pastor....

Pastors,Minister,Saints
you must stop this once and for all!

Please do your best to attend
The Apostolic Summit 2008!

*********************************

There was a trinitarian church that requested a Apostolic pastor.
God opened the doors for Samuel Sandate! As of this week, he has relocated to Las Vegas NV.
And is now Pastor Samuel Sandate!
To God be the GLORY!

He is not with the AA anymore, he is under Los Pentecostales en el desierto it's Apostolic Pentecostal. If anyone fron Las Vegas NV. interested in helping out in any form of ministry please contact "healingnow@live.com"
They can give you more info...

Just this week he baptized 5 trinitarians in the name of JESUS!

This is a trinitarian church that contacted Apostolics for a pastor!

This is awesome people! The world is hungry for what we have!
Get ready for revival!

Apostolic Summit 2008!


Just reposting, because i feel this needs to be heard.

Thought for the day said...

To Germain Garcia;

Praise the Lord;
Is that "really you" giving us this info on the salaries that all the 000000s must give great joy to all the Gb for so mnay 00000in their salaries?
I saw your picture in the AA's GB Office Web page.
Does Sanchez and the Gb know that you are giving to the blogs this info.
Also Noehmi and Brother Rojas who also give us valuable info.
Thank you also sister Rena Gonzalez you are a true AA co-laborer for Christ friend.

Thank you very much for being so "Loyal to you co-laborers in the Work of the Lord.

Seeing the Web page, on Brother Sanchez, I think that is "The Web page" what it is called on 'The Web page on the elavorations on the GB Great accomplishments?

I see Sanchez's picture. I cannot believe "how old he looks."

Looks like "Himler" from the "German Era."

Wow what greed can do that to someone.

Have you read the President's letter in the Web Page?. Where his picture is?

He starts of by talking about death?
Talks about every body dying including his parents.

Then he has the "audisty" to compare himself with "Moses and with AAraon. with the "ceremony" of transfer of the Priest's duties. and given the "clothes" to Eleazar.(read it its in Sanchez's "great accomplishments, according to him.

He writes for us to "read" and conclude that he (Sanchez) "Eleazar" the New one in Office...The son of AAron.
That he has the "same right".

That he is in the "Priest," appointed by God to do "Fraud in elections."

He compares himself with the appointment of God for Eleazar.

He specifically quotes the scripture that "Moses "stripped" the cloat off Aaron and put them on Eleazar.

He talks about the "Fraudgelent elections" in Long Beach and how everything terminated there in a excellent way.

Wow what "conclusion" He is really "off of it."

Where did he copy this from? To write such a self elevated letter.
Iam sure its not his own "research"
Valverde must have given it to him with the "stealing of other's research.

Germain, could Rena Gonzalez, who works in Accounts Receivable give us an itemized account of all the amounts received.?

We have a right to receive one.The AA is a "non profit corporation" in the State of California. Every member of the AA, Bishop Elders and Pastors have a "right" to request this information.

This is where an audit comes in .
So call the "Secretary of State' in Sacramento, The State's Capital, and inform them on their "doing".

I apologize, Germain.. I had my "figures" all mixed up on the added 000000's to their salaries.

But don't tell me to "shut up and stop lying."
I do not work at the AA like you all do.
So you are the "one responsible" to that keep the Pastors out of "the dark".

You and your "famous Tresurer,
The Asian man that works there,
Leopardo Massey..

Its his responsability to give every single pastor a "report" on the accounts receiable. and the amount of 00000's in their salaries.
Massey "demands it from us Pastors who why can't we demand it from him?

This is why I say, No GB member should be
allowed "to be a GB member and to Pastor a "church"..Any way they do not do the "functions of a Pastor" They have their "Go for puppet deacons" do everything for them while they "attend "bored" meetings and travel the "nation."

In sales and tours in New York and Hawaii. And of course "TEE Time" in "Knee shorts".

Hello......

beto said...

I love three amigos.

Btw, put on a tie and suit? hilarious.

Factsonly1 said...

There is so much jealousy on this site. All because Bishop Valverde is the Latino version of Rick Warren and Joel Olsteen.

The term mexican crabs is true on this site. As soon as a pastor reaches the top, you people are there to drag his down.

Skotty Will Show You said...

we care we share???

why dont people know about this program lugo??

why is it that only older women in the AA know about this... is it possible that they are being taken advatage of??


ELDERLY ABUSE!!!!

MAYBE... idk...


speak up people!!!!

Skotty Will Show You said...

factsonly1 said...
Sergio Villanueva is my hero.
Leave him be.

September 1, 2008 10:48 PM



RIGHT.....

Skotty Will Show You said...

There is so much jealousy on this site. All because Bishop Valverde is the Latino version of Rick Warren and Joel Olsteen.

SO...HE IS THE LATINO WHITE GUY...

WHY CANT HE BE LIKE T.D. JAKES???

WHY...RACISM? LOL

BUT IT DOESNT MATTER ... FACTS IS ALL LIES ...

AS YOU CAN ALL WITNESS... HE FIGHTS WITH HIMSELF PRETENDING TO BE 2 PEOPLE USING THE SAME NAME...

Skotty Will Show You said...

So if The Price of Copyright Infringement is $9,250 Per Song..
i wonder how much it is per Sermon... or Speech...

lol

truth said...

Skotty or Henry

ANY WORD ON Barrientos case.
I'm back in L.A I wonder when is court day maybe we can take a drive to Imperial Valley and interview people from that area see what they know of the Sanchez family,by the the way I saw steven Sanchez name as pastor for Brawley california on a list yesturday here in this blogg I thought he was in Imperial Valley so if that's not correct I apoligise I don't like to give out false statements, even though it sounds right nowoder he wants to go to El CENTRO that way he could be in Imperial Valley and rule there....

LL said...

Thought for the day

They are NOT going to give you a Report !
**No tevan a dar un Reporte de las Tesoreria!

I requested one, I have not received it yet!
** Yo pedi un reporte(tesoreria), y toda via no me los mandan!

Unknown said...

Truth:

Email me. Hankster44@gmail.com

The trial continues.....

Unknown said...

Expense report fiscal year 2007

$1,081,920.00 GB salaries
$170,666.00 Gaylord Covention
$755,321.00 GB expense Account
$652,589.00 Other staff salaries
$121,352.00 Health Insurance
$88,342.00 Travel expenses
$81,298.00 GB Meal expenses
$53,451.00 Office utilities
$45,500.00 50 widows @$75 each

Plus 3 weeks paid vacation

Please pray for us at the General Office, because we hear a lot of things that are going on.

It is very discouraging to hear we have all these lawsuits pending. Some of them may end up costing us quite a bit of money.

We have the lawsuit by the pastor's that sued us and then we have several cases of molestation, we have the Gregory Ruff case against the Assembly that will be coming up in about four months.

Someone said the Gregory Ruff case against the Assembly was dismissed, NOT! The case may sink us for doing some unethical things, starting with Vince Alvarez, Jr and his son Vinnie. They did this guy Gregory Ruff wrong. I know I was there when we promised to make him the exclusive agent for all the Assemblies insurance policies. But Valverde suggested that we get %25 percent kick back, so Alvarez goes and asks for this...can you believe this stuff? That is totally illegal in the state of California.

Perhaps Skotty will be able to show up for that trial and shoot some video.

Get ready, Skotty! (We are hoping to settle this out of court, but they want too much $$ right now) They think we are a bigger world wide organization than we really are because that was another lie brother Vince originally told him)

We kept pushing this Gregory guy as the agent for these AA policies but in fact Brother Vince had already been keeping the commissions.

Brother Vince formed a financial and insurance agency that is based out of the general offices here and called it:DAYSPRING FINANCIAL AND INSURANCE SERVICES, INC.

This was after letting this guy Gregory Ruff set up the system for the pastor's life insurance policies.

More to come about the trial!!

On another note:
We need people to start sending us money so that we can continue to support the GB.

Please ask your pastor to quit reducing the amount of tithes they are sending to us. We are really hurting. We have had to call several pastor's asking them to get a second mortgage on their properties, because we need $$ NOW!

Several were not cooperating and others said they would consider it.

Those that don't cooperate will meet there fate (lynch).

Oops, shhhhhh......got to go...a GB just walked in to get a check from me!!

John Knox said...

Who will be attending the summit in Denver?

Will this new association drop much (if any) of the old polity that is seen in the AA?

Unfortanetly, the AA does not understand most of the surroundings that we place our churches and therefore start churches that are disconnected from our local communities, cities and context. Any thoughts on this?

truth said...

(germain)
can you put that on the letters blogg with the original document, other wise it really doesn"t mean anything, as much as it sounds real but some people wants a little bit of evidence..not just hear say

WatchOut! said...

Germain

Does that include the love offerings? And I wonder if they double dip on the travel expenses and turn in expenses that have already been paid by the districts they visit. Don't forget the "love offerings" wherever they go. Does anyone keep track of those? Wow, no wonder they fight and scratch for those positions.

Unknown said...

Can't put it on AA stationary, these are "unofficial" figures!

LL said...

Truth & Camindo Voy

They go under "Administrative Expenses" that way noone quetions them. It's possible that they change the catagory already.

**Esas salidas las ponen (m.d.) en "Gastos Administrativos"
Y nadie hace preguntas de esos gastos. Pueda ser que le cambiaron la Categoria(salidas).

LL said...

Germain,
regarding the lawsuits, I figured that one out when this all started. You are lynching pastors WITHOUT a trial . Even a Child Molester gets a trial!
Our pastors didn't!
** Acerca de las demandas eso era seguro! Hasta hay guien que a Abusado de un nino(a)s Se le tiene que hacer un Juicio!
A los pastores que sacaron, No les dieron uno!(juicio)

You said (G. Ruff) that some things were done UNETHICAL , sam valverde suggested that the aa get 25%?
Sounds like someone wanted access to the COOKIE JAR!!!!!!

LL said...

Germain

G. Ruff is suing the aa ?

LL said...

Camino Voy,

You asked Does anyoe keep track of those?(l.offerings)
From my experience in the local church, you write the check to the speak's name. If they don't report it to the IRS that's their problema.

**Preguntas si hay guien apunta las ofrendas de amor?
De mi experiencia local el cheque se pone al nombre el predicador no de la asamblea (aa). Si ellos no lo reportan en sus impuestos , es su problema.

Unknown said...

The general office computers are temporarily locked down right now, because someone is leaking information:

I just got a text and was told to let you know that the lawsuit against the AA is coming up in a few months.

Gregory Ruff
vs.
Vince Alvarez, jr.
Vinnie Alvarez III
Apostolic Assembly
Dayspring Financial and Insurance services(Bro. Vinces company)
General Board members
Former Nava founation, Admin. Larry Sanchez

All the deposition have been taken.

Either the AA settles or they go to court and lose big bucks!!

LL said...

GBOutsider
Who is Larry S. related to the p?

John Knox said...

Germain,

I don't believe this is THE Germain that works as an accountant for the AA Headquarters. For one, because the statement you made about the GB hurting for $$$ because churches are not cooperating, is not true. I know this to be false from one of the infamous 8 who said quite the opposite. Secondly, He just wouldn't be on here.

You have some good insight never the less, so please continue posting.

-------------------------------
John Knox

"Let us briefly consider what sinners they are whose death God will(s) not, but rather that they convert and live."

WatchOut! said...

Or it could be that the "infamous" are too proud to admit that the coffers aren't quite as full to the brim as they used to be. Of course maybe they're not hurting too bad financially yet, what with the nice bank accounts of the churches that were just taken over. Tis everyone's guess, I suppose. Time will tell if the well runs dry. Or they can always start selling church properties as carelessly stated by the prez. They don't care about the pastors, they don't care about the members, why ever would they care about church buildings. To the pastors and members these churches are the place they lovingly built, where they went to worship, where they shed many tears, where they praised God, where they were baptized, where they were married, where they brought up their children. Yet to the "infamous" these churches are $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ to be had . . . and will eventually will wind up in the financials as having been spent as "ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS" just as the majority of the Flor Azul funds. Go figure.

Skotty Will Show You said...

LUGO AND HIS FOLLOWERS!

ok so THE WE CARE WE SHARE program started in the '80s.

how it works...

pay $12 a year for membership..
pay $1..(1 year they did $2) everytime a member of the AA who is also a member of the WE CARE WE SHARE PROGRAM, Dies.
THat $1 for each time a member of the we care we share program that dies, Goes to the WE CARE WE SHARE FUND...

example---- so 5 people die that are in the program...
each member pays $5 extra

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY CHURCH FUNDS...

what you get out of this: You get DEATH BENEFIT $500 TO THE MEMBERS FAMILY.

thats it...

MY UNDERSTANDING IS
LUGO HAS DISSOLVED/Annexed ALL OF THE FUNDS...

WHERES THE MONEY LUGO???

most of the MEMBERS OF THE WE CARE WE SHARE PROGRAM
ARE ELDERLY PEOPLE....

THATS A CRIME...
TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE ELDERLY...

ELDERLY ABUSE!!!!!


-SKOTTY


ASK QUESTIONS PEOPLE!!!!!
ASK QUESTIONS NOW!!!
STEP UP... BE HEARD!

CHAIRMAN_MAO said...

the "we Care we Share"

program sounds like a typical pyramid scheme..

reminds me of the "Tungunska" scheme that was rolled out last year by a few of the GB family members..

Malverde, Aguilar, and the now discredited J. Montes...

wish we could post pdf's here.. lol

i have some documentation

Think and think again said...

Dear Bloggers"

Did Sanchez delete all previous comments. Why ?
I did not think Tony Leyvas was his relative.
Who deleted all about Sanchez/And all about the Denver Conference.?

We must have stepped on someone's toes.

Think and think again said...

Scotty,
That's the Nava Foundation. Its it?
This is one of the "grants" that is being investigated.

But when????

Keep up the good work..

Who's toes did we step on that all the previous comments that had so much info and History were deleted?

Wow Tony Leyvas, I thought was with us?
No one can trust 'anyone.

Think and think again said...

Chair Mao;
Post them, but what for?
Blog Master Tony Leyvas wkill delete all comments on the GB and their families.
I thought he was "neutral?

Apparently he is related to someone in the GB..
Look what happened to all the letters of Pastor Tafoya.

That is extally what we are talking about tne Henry wants to know why no one "ever spoke."? They did but it was ERRASED,BIG TIME.

Think and think again said...

The next thing we are going to hear is that all the Plaintiff that were
"lynch" by Sanchez via de Gb.
ARE TO BE =REINSTATED, by order of the "Court"..
Just watch and do not say I did not tell you...
"A whistle "blower", term in law is not to "get fired" if he is giving , "an Alert of the Gb "no in "due process."

cali warrior said...

think and think again

The program for the Denver Conference is still on the blog.
Aug. 3, 2:40 p.m. I just went thru it again. Also you can find at Apostolic Restoration blog.

Thought for the day said...

Dear Bloggers:
Noticing the list of Pastors names posted by A A
There are some that their "Churches"
Have "Iglesia Apostolica nex to them..

But you are in town and you see or in internet of in the phone book and it reads "Iglesia Apostolica..

This is the Official incorporated name of the "Iglesia de Mexico" not the AA..

Wonder if these Pastors of the AA know? Or because the majority of them a "new immigrants from Mexico they "purposely" just call it "Iglesia instead of Assembly.

Notice the list..

Think and think again said...

Cali Warrior;
thank you very much. God bless you.

Keep on praying and keep up the good work to help the Church remove these obstacles.

called2proclaim said...

TO the GB and all bloggers....when incorporating a non profit organization.....the IRS does not want family to be in the leadership roles even more to be getting any type of income becuz it will the turn out to be personal gain.....and not a non profit organization (501c3)....
these are rules the the IRS has placed for non profits to avoid a FAMILY BUISNESS to be formed....notice this IN THE AA

cali warrior said...

think and think again

The Tafoya letter and the responses from the GB can be found at apostolicassembly.info
Look under date of 3-16-2007 under "elections at general board convention".

cali warrior said...

think and think again

Maybe you could make copies of them just in case they are removed so that they can be reposted.

Thought for the day said...
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Thought for the day said...

To proclaim
Great work...put it to work, don't you "talk about it everyone does including me. But please "realize" Iam 80 years old...
God bless you for being sooooyoung.

Thank God for "warriors like you. That's exactly what I told the Pastors, in my "blog comment, last night. "We have young people that cannot be fooled any more.

They will be used by God to protect his Church, as he did "young King David.

Put it "work" in Jesus Name.
I'll pray for you.

called2proclaim said...

Thought for the day:

Thank u for the HISTORY u have shared with us..u said..."in order to know the present we must FIRST know the PAST". UR right...Im praying for MEN of GOD like u that have trained us well.and taught us that.the TRUTH shall set u FREE..
may the grace of GOD be with u..

Think and think again said...

Cali Warrior;
Thsnks . I'll do that
Thank again...Keep "fighting in Jesus Name.
This is "all YOURS do not let any one that it away .

Skotty Will Show You said...

i give you the BOMB.PDF

copy and paste the following link



http://www.esnips.com/web/MissingLETTERS


THIS IS FOR THE MISSING TAFOYA LETTERS...

Skotty Will Show You said...

here you go...

50 pages that NOBODY IN THE GB WANTS YOU TO SEE...

TAFOYA LETTERS


COPY AND PASTE

http://www.esnips.com/doc/6c4bb9bf-b2e6-450c-a3f2-cfeea891d90f/Bomb

Skotty Will Show You said...

DOWNLOAD THEM WHILE YOU CAN...

B4 THE BLOGMASTER DELETES MY COMMENTS...

http://www.esnips.com/doc/6c4bb9bf-b2e6-450c-a3f2-cfeea891d90f/Bomb

TAFOYA LETTERS!

called2proclaim said...

SKOTTY...
thank 4 the info....
stay strong...

Unknown said...

Mornin all!
so as LITTLE of respect that I personally hold for TAFOYA, reading those letters gave me a stomache ache. Upon reading he was belittled and dismissed - as experiencing this in my own life the humiliation felt via the hand of another man (a friend or confidant)is the most horrible feeling of shame. kinda felt bad for a moment.
-C

LL said...

Cali Warrior

"DENVER SUMMIT"

The schedule is also in aa.info.com
Dated 09-03 Summit

LL said...

Cali Warrior,
I have some of those letters posted in the aa.info

LL said...

Skotty are you going to the Denver Summit?

LL said...

Thought for the Day

AA goes b:y "Asamblea Apostolica"

the Church in Mexico go by:

"Iglesia Apostolica"

they don't use Asamblea.

LL said...

Thought4tday

Maybe you can answer this question

The aa & the Iglesia A. had a friendship but, few years ago they ended that friendship . Do you know the reasons?

LL said...

John Knox, I agree with you about germain.
***John, estoy deacuerdo contigo acerca de Germain.

The aa would dismiss him.
***Las oficinas generales los despedirian.

But, I disagree with you about the aa not suffering ($$$)
***Pero no estoy de acuerdo acerca que las aa no esta sufriendo($$).

Do you actually think that all the pastors, minister,deacons & members will post a letter to let people know they are leaving the aa? I know of some that have left but, have not posted such letters.
*** Tu cres que todos los pastores,ministros, diaconos y miembros van a poner cartas para decirnos que se van de esta organizacion? Yo conosco unos que ya se fueron y no lo publicaron.

They have knowned about the corruption (inside t/districts) for years . They came to the conclusion if it happen inside t/districts IT CAN SURE BE HAPPENING in a HIGHER SCALE.

lehan said...

To hallelujah anyhow,

Do you happen to know if the pastor Miguel A. Hernandez teaching at 2:45-3:45 PM on "The Role of Women in Ministry" at the Denver Summit is the same one from AZ that preached in your church?

Does anybody know who this pastor is?

Unknown said...

Come to think of it, HA hasnt been on here in a minute.
But yeah i think that is the same Miguel Hernandez, he pastors in Peoria AZ

Unknown said...

ALERT ALERT ALERT!

Gregory Ruff vs. Apostolic Assembly, Vince Alvarez Jr. & Vince Alvarez, III

Trial tentatively scheduled to start on Monday November 3rd in Rancho Cucamonga. Department R11

Apostolic Assembly attorney:
Nancy Anne Ramsey
McKay, Graham & de Lorimier
3250 Wilshire Blvd Ste 603
Los Angeles, CA 90010-1578

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