AV
- Abel Torres - LYNCHED I
- Saul Avila - LYNCHED
- Baldemar Rodriguez - LYNCHED
- Daniel Solomon - LYNCHED
- Arthur Tafoya
- Daniel Jauhall
- Isaac Cota
- Ishmael Arellano
- Julian Aguirre
- Richard Galaviz
- Samuel Arellano
- Guillermo Mendoza - LYNCHED
- Martin Vasquez
- Herman Garza
- Efrain Andrade - LYNCHED
- Isaac Hernandez - LYNCHED*
*Not 2006 Election related
3,402 comments:
«Oldest ‹Older 1001 – 1200 of 3402 Newer› Newest»"They use camera's at times for courts and litigations why not for the church?"
Not all courts allow camera.
Besides, seriously, this is sensitive matter, and it shouldn't be broadcasted. Regardless of your side.
Remember, that the church is not public property, (regardless of public opinion).
stood for 2 long....
I know cameras are not always allowed in cours but they do have that little lady sitting in the front typing like crazy everything that is being said...
and the camera was only an issue for the GB not the members they also had stuff to say and they were not afraid to be recorded, when you have nothing to hide then there is nothing to fear. Obviously the GB doesn't feel that way. And thats why they asked Skotty to turn the camera off or in this case leave. well we know what the end result was.
So here is how it goes, you disagree with how the votes got, so you ask for a recount. GB looks at you like you are an idiot. And says say hello to my little friend! and then says oh by the way I have your church ha ha ha.
NEWS FLASH!! DID YOU HEAR THE LATEST NEWS? SKOTTY IS GAY!!
HE'S JUST AFRAID TO COME OUT OF THE CLOSET!!
LET'S SHOW HIMS SOME SUPPORT IN THIS BLOGG!!!
NEWS FLASH!! DID YOU HEAR THE LATEST NEWS? SKOTTY IS GAY!!
HE'S JUST AFRAID TO COME OUT OF THE CLOSET!!
LET'S SHOW HIMS SOME SUPPORT IN THIS BLOGG!!!
ghetto
Your name says it all hahaha You must be on the GB.. you're probably Lugo wasting his time at his desk typing all this cuz he's so pissed that someone finally caught him on camera! hahaha
So my real question is..if Skotty was gay I'm sure he wouldn't have a problem protesting it, obviously he stood up to the GB, what makes you think he wouldn't stand up to the world?
ghetto..sorry to say this and God forgive me...but this is what you're portraying that you are....ghetto
Hmm..is it just me or does anyone notice that "ghetto" sounds alot like "rush"?
FOT must not have too many activities goin on these days?
what if he was gay? what issue is that of yours?
this is so endimic of the typical AA mindset.
Cameras are not allowed in the supreme court... lol..
all others have pretty much open their courtrooms.
and regardless, all, ALL courts,a nd any govt entity (with the xception of the bush admin. is subject to the information act.
that said, the church is not a pubic forum, true. but it should be open to its members, and it should be public to them.
should it be on cnn, no, should it be puvblished via an internal medium, yes.
when you try tu suppress it, the people find alternative avenues.. youtube, blogs, etc.
again their lack of media savvy, exposes them to spin via mediums they have no control of.
As members of the church, does it matter if the buildings are 'public' property? Don't they belong to us?
how did Skotty's name get in all this about him being Gay?
Thats uncalled for. Its not up to us to decide or judege if some one is Gay or not.... Not cool.
well, ladies and gentlemen. It was a pleasure blogging with all of you. now I need to take a walk and relax before coming back to work. Take care and God Bless you all. :-)
I was just over on an upc forum and it seems as if they are discussing our mess. Here is the link: http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com/showthread.php?t=16276&highlight=baldemar
BTW, one of Skotty's videos has 8,900 hits. No wonder the dgb felt the need to put out the ridiculous press release.
So,
I have spent far too much time on this blog, and it is very addictive. So this is my last post because it has taken away from my work (the work that i do for food as well as the work that I do for the Lord).
I realize that there are many hurt feelings here...so here is my solution....keep the main thing, the main thing.
If you dedicate yourself to winning the lost, and only winning the lost...who comes out at elections is irrelevant.
I personally don't care...because I have never had mush as 30 minutes conversation with all of them combinded.
Who gets elected to which office...never has affected my local church production/activity.
I have never left an conference and said "man, how I can give a bible study, how can I teach a lesson knowing that Bro. "insert_name_here" has been elected as "whatever".
(oh and by the way, if a 14 yr old girl is going to show her immaturity by posting a "freekin" video over AA stuff, then I do really fill bad for her and her church) the 14 yr old kids at my church don't even know what AA stands for...they have never even hear any of the names of the General Board Members. Its true, 14yr girls should be focusing on girly things such boys and clothes...not the removal of GB memebers...I don't how some of you even have the audacity to applaud her.
so what is my resolution??
WIN SOULS....if you find yourself caught up in politics, then that means that you are not focusing on SOULS (the great commission).
Regardless of who is on the GB, there will always be "questions" and there will always be someone who thinks that either their pastor should be on it, or their uncle, or whoever. But if we just keep focusing on the local church, then all "that" becomes irrealavant.
Really, I too, don't like everything that the AA does from the Top level, but I love the fellowship (my fellow co-labors in the Lord). I love meeting up with them and telling stories from youth camps, etc. I love going to ETR and various other meetings for the word of God, but also to sharpen my sword with others.
With that, please scrutinize, pick apart, bash, make fun of my comments all that you wish, because I can really care less.
What I do care about is that I have a bible study tonight to a young married couple tonight, and I'm praying that they decide to give their lives to the Lord shortly. During the Bible Study, i will not mention that we are part of the AA nor will I mention our dist bishop's name, nor will I promote General Conference, because none of those matter in the matter of soul winning......
please do have a great day...I and pray that all of your endeavors and goals are reached.....
NEWS FLASH...
GHETTOS NAME SAYS IT ALL...
THE END.
well they kicked this men of GOD out of the AA the only reason is because the GB understands clearly that they won't be able to keep doing corruption,they knew that now this men were finally going to start asking questions when felt something was wrong, so by eliminating the PASTORS that desageed with the election they made an example with them,now they will do what ever they want specially with GOD'S MONEY and no one is going to be against it because they don;t want to loose their salary's for pastoring their churches...Question is their even an investigation going on on ex bishop from southern ca district on having an affair with one of his dorcas?or they gonna let it go like he let go when his brother's wife had an affair with one of the members there in OCEAN SIDE CA if I'm not mistaking and on top of that his brother and wife are still english PASTORS...
But yet our leaders are kicking out our GOOD MEN OF GOD just because they are not ignorant to see what our HONORABLE GENERAL BOERD DID (FRAUD)..
some one from southern district respond please we want to know here in fresno
NEWS FLASH...
GHETTO WISHES I WAS GAY... hahahaha
Dude U obviously Know nothing ABOUT ME...
Hey Stood By Too Long.
When you open up your bible to Acts 2:38 to give your bible study. Don’t forget that there are 26 other chapters in the book.
WARNING!!!!!
This situation should provoke you to wonder if the AA is indeed a Bible believing faith. The AA claims to have the truth, yet it is that same truth that is dividing the church.
My question is then, can what the AA claim to be truth really be truth? Doesn't truth demand transparency? Doesn't truth demand openness? Doesn't truth demand nakedness? Doesn't truth demand meekness?
All of which the AA knows nothing about. Is the AA really based on truth? Or does it preach a darwin-based message, "only the fittest and finest survive" at any cost. A scary, but a very true thought indeed.
My final thought for the day.
What do you get when you give a bible to a gardener?
Answer: An Apostolic Pastor
What do you get when you have an Apostolic Pastor that can’t preach?
Answer: A General Board Member
What to you get when you have a General Board member that can’t lead?
Answer: An Apostolic Pastor that should have stayed a gardener.
Seems like I didn't miss out on much. Well After reflecting and taking a walk, I realized that we need to stop doing the blame game. Bottom line is we need to forgive and forget what has happened and move on. I know people wanted to record open meetings but this is only showing the world that there is Chaos within the Apostolic community which is fine, we are not perfect, but we need to do our dirty laundrey at home and not air out for others to know about it.
i totally agree with skotty...
ghetto:
thats just what u are...
why the silent treatment now buddy? lol
i_stand_4_one
ROME,
Don't hate cuz i got GAME! you WISH someone called you sweetie, huh? it got you ALL excited!! CALMATE WALTER MERCADO. I got you some Juan Gabriel tickets but you gotta promise to calm down, ok? lol
Stood by too long:
allow me to quote you:
"they could have a held an open meeting with the church members,
and the Pastor"
I think thats what they tried to do in SB, but Scotty showed up with a camera and the "revolutioners"
the removal service was not an open discussion to the church, but a monologue. Just ask Bro mendoza's congregation and Bro avila's congregation. we were merely trying to obtain evidence of the wrongdoing.
and by the way, "revolutioners" is not a word. if you want people to think you have the reading level of a 4th grader, MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.
Run a spell check, genius.
KLU IS BACK!
did you miss me?
i know SOME of you did!!!
klu where do u work at?
just wondering...
i don't actually.
i am a fulltime undergrad student at University of La Verne.
y?
Carlos,
WOW what a comeback ! NOT !
Listen take those Juan Gabriel tickets you bought and take one of your Flor Azul buddies.
If you are a christian what are you doing buying Juan Gabriel tickets ?
You shouldnt be listening to secular music anyway let alone a maricon singer like that.
Keep talking cause the more you say you are showing the type of person you are.
Let me run down the list.
1. Arrogant
2. Boaster
3. Full of himself
4. prideful
5. secular
6. carnal
7. homo
The list keeps growing
i was just wondering.
well i know this blog was made to express your feelings about everything thats going on but this is insane...
ppl have gone way to far, with all their arguing.
im out for today...
Blessings,
i_stand_4_one
p.s i just might be back soon...
Pobrecito Rome,
They're not playing nice nice with you, huh?
its ok. I'm glad i'm on your mind enough for you to make a list about me. WOW!
kinda makes you wonder who the REAL homo is, huh?
its ok, though. no worries. hey look on the bright side! you can get married now here in California! Ve buscate tu Macho menos y a lo que te truje!
you wouldn't be the FIRST pk to go that route... just look at Bro Abel Jimenez's son? Ya ves! no te aguites! no estas solo en este mundo cruel.
stand4one,
i totally agree.
rome you are showing your maturity level and your lack of taste. Is this how the young men of the AA are supposed to sound like? And the other ones are the ones that are going to hell, huh?
seriously. get jesus.
Dude Roe Totally Wants Ur Number FOOL!
HAHAHAHAHA
rome ... Nvr mind. not worth it.
and the fun continues!
Hey Carla,
You are the one who purchased the Juan Gabriel tickets so dont trip.
Sounds like your the one who is into all that.
Bien que sabes donde conseguirlos no ?
For someone who is not worth it and showing his inmaturity you fools are sure sweating me.
You guys are retarded all it takes is a lil riling up and you guys are all bent out of shape. LOL
And dont forget who is the one who started with using the word sweetie only old ladies and fags say that word.
And since you said you were in your twenties I take it your the latter.
Where is all the info on the revolutionaries and protest etc....?
Thats what I want to hear about.
Not some twinkle toes carla getting his feelings hurt cause he got outed online....LOL
WHOA! where is the love people? can we discuss better stuff like how good God is and the wonderful stuff he had done in our lives? Any testimonies???
Strong_Believe_in_God:
You and Carlos are right. I have refrained from my comments about the person whom you refer. For that, he will remain nameless on this comment.
Its just unfortunate that the GB, lead by Sanchez, Valverde, Pacheco and others had to drag other people to enforce their decision.
A decision that the Hermanos did not have a vote in.
This is what happens when a Panel of 5 over rules and disregards the Votes of over 600.
Its sad that the AA is being runned by a Panel of 5 men and who do not heed to the will of God, Pastors or the Hermanos
Rome, Dont Get Hot Headed In Here.
Try To Resist... ok Sweetie?
okay this is useless, no one has anything good to say its all chisme,and they say women talk a lot.....
Pues hermanos y hermanas, I'll keep praying while you all keep talking about so, and so, and he did this and he did that ,and why is he still bishop. blah, blah, blah.
Thank God for the IAFCJ :-)
Rome,
you use the word a little TOO much...
?
anyone else notice that?
maybe he's a little... unsure?
you kinda give yourself away there buddy. don't worry, at the rate the AA is going they'll allow it in ten years and you will be able to have your Adam and Steve all you want! even IF your dad is pastor. lol
LaUnica
I have a testimony, somewhat general but I wanted to say that God really is gracious and good to all of us...
In my own life, even right now I see how I almost have messed up my life but God still finds a way to fulfill his purpose through us.
He loves us unconditionally and I could never repay Him for that, all I can do is give my life to him in complete surrender and trust Him all the way.
For those of you who dont know, I am a minister of the Gospel...I preach Gods word, I teach it with diligence...Nothing greater than helping people have a greater walk with Christ.
Despite all of that, we make choices that effect our lives but God will always make a way.
Someone once said, "Dont ever doubt in the dark what God has shown you in the Light"
For all of those and for all of us who are being kicked out, remember this...God is truly in control when we think that being outside the AA is a horrible thing remember that God is faithful even when we are unfaithful to Him (2 Tim. 2:13)
May God Bless You
LMBO!
I'm sure he has a little Adam and Steve now! HAHAHAHA!
i think i know who rome is btw!!
and i'm not surprised he's having his lil parade now!
always kinda knew.
KLU,
What is your problem ?
Why are you getting all involved ?
Skotty that goes for you too !
What Carla cant defend himself or herself or itself....LOL
Whatever. You levas are entertaining however not that interesting.
Royal....
Thank you, that's all I aked for, I know this a place where people are coming to vent, and I get it. Believe me I do. I came on here and vented for a while, but all I ask if for some words of encouragement and strength. My family is torn because of what is happening. This is a life changing event for them, they are undecided as to staying with the AA or following thier pastor. They appreciate both sides, and are confused like many members as to what is "truly" going on. So Im a person on the outside looking in, and they are inside looking out. All I can do is tell my family I love them, that I am praying and that God always has an answer it may not be right then and there, but he has a answer never early and never late just in time.
WOW mr AA.
do even know what a leva is?
Where is that in the doctrinal points.
Calm down Rome.
You're here. you're queer, we're used to it.
hahhaha
Go Write a BOOK... i got a title u might like...
ROMEO AND JUAN... hahahaha
CHILDREN!!!
OOOOOHHHH SNAP SON!!!
HAHAHA
dang dude DIDNT I TELL YOU
OUR COMEBACKS
ARE SHORT
AND SWEET!!!!!
we must be somewhat interesting if you are still on here...
or is something else besides what we say interest you?
whooooo!
carlos, someone has a lil crush on you
My mission is complete.
Did everyone on here notice something about these individuals that are heading this protest / revolution movement or whatever they are calling it ?
Just a little bit of baiting and they go from Spiritual to Carnal in 2 seconds.
So how can you spearhead a movement and expect God to direct you if you are showing your lack of spirituality ?
Now I apologize if you were offended by any comments I made but I must admit it was kind of fun ruffling your feathers.
Give up the Revolution and instead enter your prayer closet and live for what is truly important.
Do you think when all is said and done the AA matters or the UPC ?
They are just organizations.
i think rome is into the
manly types... haha carlos he likes the fact that you DOMINATE over him hahaha!
heck no. the lord rebuke him.
rome put on a Cher a cd and relax.
ROME SAID THE FOLLOWING
Hey Carla,
You are the one who purchased the Juan Gabriel tickets so dont trip.
Sounds like your the one who is into all that.
Bien que sabes donde conseguirlos no ?
For someone who is not worth it and showing his inmaturity you fools are sure sweating me.
You guys are retarded all it takes is a lil riling up and you guys are all bent out of shape. LOL
And dont forget who is the one who started with using the word sweetie only old ladies and fags say that word.
And since you said you were in your twenties I take it your the latter.
Carlos,
WOW what a comeback ! NOT !
Listen take those Juan Gabriel tickets you bought and take one of your Flor Azul buddies.
If you are a christian what are you doing buying Juan Gabriel tickets ?
You shouldnt be listening to secular music anyway let alone a maricon singer like that.
Keep talking cause the more you say you are showing the type of person you are.
Let me run down the list.
1. Arrogant
2. Boaster
3. Full of himself
4. prideful
5. secular
6. carnal
7. homo
The list keeps growing
AND NOW HE IS TRYING TO TURN THE TABLES...
PATHETIC DUDE!
Rome,
you started the foul language and obscene comments.
no mas te seguiamos la corriente.
Everyone knows that. Your not fooling everyone.
isn't it funny how are demise has become a MISSION for you? WOW. ya ni el chamuco!
What does the bible say about stumbling blocks.
Calmate RuPaul.
aw right fearless bloggers I'm off on a fearless mission.
HAHA
Rome U CAME HERE TRYING TO START SOMETHING
WE SIMPLY FINISHED IT...
The truth hurts doesnt it ?
If you plan to do anything for the kingdom you gotta let go of that carnal spirit.
Like I said I apologize if I offended you.
But you have to have a thicker skin if you desire to grow.
Let it go or are you that carnal that you cant get passed the few moments that my words upset you ?
I can walk away and move on.
Can You ? This goes for you as well Skotty.
What revolution can you lead if you cant control your anger and tongue ?
ROME...
Amen, I agree,in the end its only an organization. Yeah its nice to be part of organization and to have conventions, and services and camps, but in the end its all about God. God didn't come down for people with titles, and scholars and rich men. He came looking for those who are humble and willing to be used. And if you have a humble spirit and want to work for God then use your talent for the greater good, Don't bash your breathern, if you cannot love your neighbor than you do not love God.
wELL U HAVENT WALKED AWAY YET FOOL.
BUT THEN AGAIN
you did say you CAN walk away... not that you WOUld ...
we will see...
la unica,
Amen to that.
Saving souls and working for GOD is all that matters.
I hurt for all the Pastors and Bishops being removed.
But when all is said and done they only took a building from them.
Buildings can be replaced the Church will continue with or without assemblies and organizations.
ayy Dios mio!
WOW .. .ok I NEED TO WATCH MY TEMPER AND TONGUE...
WOW
GO BACK AND READ everything YOU POSTED... AND THEN READ EVERYTHING I POSTED...
SEE THE DIFFERENCE??
ur wayyyyy tooo funny rome...
oh nd btw dont try to delete ur posts now... im copying and pasting them ...
No denying it this time fool!
i wonder how many souls he will win by calling them fags. what a coward. if you are going to say something stick by it.
ouch, I must have been away when those things were being typed. Either way I not here to judge. So may I ask what is the ages of some of you? Rome, Skotty? Royal just curious.
Skotty,
I meant I would walk away from the previous converstaion and comments.
Are you Mature ? Are you truly spiritual ?
Do you truly have the love of God.
Dont let your emotions dictate what actions you take. That was the whole purpose of why I riled you guys up.
We will see the type of character youn posess by your next comments.
Wow is that all it takes to get you guys bent out of shape ?
They are just words.
I am well aware of what I posted earlier and explained why I did it.
I do NOT delete anything.
I also believe I apologized for offending any of you.
Are you that far from God that you cant forgive ?
We will see.
i posses a character of discernment. YOU ARE A FAKE! calling people names and then preaching love.
FAKE.
seriously. give the bloggers here some credit. we all see thru your playground antics. get a life and get Jesus. Being a pk won't get u into heaven buddy.
and being ugly doesn't help either. GOOD LORD!
and noone believes the whole "whoa is me i am such a victim" deal.
tiras la piedra y escondes la mano.
COBARDE.
and you say WE are the homos.
be a MAN.
KLU9128,
Wow I also discern alot of anger and frustration on your part.
The spirit of God springs forth love and forgiveness.
I told you all to pay attention to what they post next.
A man that cannot accept an apology lacks the spirit of God and a Man who has anger is a Man with no peace in his life.
noone says i don't forgive you.
that still doesn't make your hypocrisy any less evident.
and you and God both know how sincere that apology was. Chew on that.
well peeps, i got to go to class.
GBU
OK SO LETS LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE SHALL WE??
ROME SAID...
Carlos,
WOW what a comeback ! NOT !
Listen take those Juan Gabriel tickets you bought and take one of your Flor Azul buddies.
If you are a christian what are you doing buying Juan Gabriel tickets ?
You shouldnt be listening to secular music anyway let alone a maricon singer like that.
Keep talking cause the more you say you are showing the type of person you are.
Let me run down the list.
1. Arrogant
2. Boaster
3. Full of himself
4. prideful
5. secular
6. carnal
7. homo
The list keeps growing
Then I Said...
Dude Roe Totally Wants Ur Number FOOL!
HAHAHAHAHA
rome ... Nvr mind. not worth it.
and the fun continues!
July 1, 2008 2:06 PM
Skotty Will Show You said...
ROME*
lol mispelled...
shoot now i look like an AA person!
darn it!
THEN ROME SAID...
Hey Carla,
You are the one who purchased the Juan Gabriel tickets so dont trip.
Sounds like your the one who is into all that.
Bien que sabes donde conseguirlos no ?
For someone who is not worth it and showing his inmaturity you fools are sure sweating me.
You guys are retarded all it takes is a lil riling up and you guys are all bent out of shape. LOL
And dont forget who is the one who started with using the word sweetie only old ladies and fags say that word.
And since you said you were in your twenties I take it your the latter.
July 1, 2008 2:12 PM
THEN ROME SAID...
Where is all the info on the revolutionaries and protest etc....?
Thats what I want to hear about.
Not some twinkle toes carla getting his feelings hurt cause he got outed online....LOL
July 1, 2008 2:15 PM
Then I SAID...
Yeah But Our Combacks ARE
SHORT
AND
SWEET!
URS ARE WAY TOO LONG... And Mostly Stupid.
July 1, 2008 2:24 PM
Skotty Will Show You said...
Rome, Dont Get Hot Headed In Here.
Try To Resist... ok Sweetie?
July 1, 2008 2:27 PM
THEN ROME SAID...
KLU,
What is your problem ?
Why are you getting all involved ?
Skotty that goes for you too !
What Carla cant defend himself or herself or itself....LOL
Whatever. You levas are entertaining however not that interesting.
July 1, 2008 2:38 PM
THEN I SAID...
hahhaha
Go Write a BOOK... i got a title u might like...
ROMEO AND JUAN... hahahaha
Skotty Will Show You said...
OOOOOHHHH SNAP SON!!!
HAHAHA
dang dude DIDNT I TELL YOU
OUR COMEBACKS
ARE SHORT
AND SWEET!!!!!
July 1, 2008 2:43 PM
THEN ROME SAID...
My mission is complete.
Did everyone on here notice something about these individuals that are heading this protest / revolution movement or whatever they are calling it ?
Just a little bit of baiting and they go from Spiritual to Carnal in 2 seconds.
So how can you spearhead a movement and expect God to direct you if you are showing your lack of spirituality ?
Now I apologize if you were offended by any comments I made but I must admit it was kind of fun ruffling your feathers.
Give up the Revolution and instead enter your prayer closet and live for what is truly important.
Do you think when all is said and done the AA matters or the UPC ?
They are just organizations.
THEN I SAID...
i think rome is into the
manly types... haha carlos he likes the fact that you DOMINATE over him hahaha!
HAHA
Rome U CAME HERE TRYING TO START SOMETHING
WE SIMPLY FINISHED IT...
July 1, 2008 2:50 PM
THEN ROME SAID...
The truth hurts doesnt it ?
If you plan to do anything for the kingdom you gotta let go of that carnal spirit.
Like I said I apologize if I offended you.
But you have to have a thicker skin if you desire to grow.
Let it go or are you that carnal that you cant get passed the few moments that my words upset you ?
I can walk away and move on.
Can You ? This goes for you as well Skotty.
What revolution can you lead if you cant control your anger and tongue ?
July 1, 2008 2:54 PM
AND THATS WHY I DECIDED TO TAKE THE TIME TO PRESERVE OUR CONVERSATION TO SAVE PEOPLE THAT MISSED IT THE TIME IT TAKES TO READ IT... WHO HAD THE FOUL LANGUAGE? WHO NEEDS TO WATCH THEIR TEMPER?? WHO NEED TO WATCH THEIR TONGUE...
Yes only GOD knows.
On that point you are correct!
ok kids, lets hug and makeup.
I'll throw in some candy!!! :-) internet Candy of course!
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Amen Skotty,
We all do.
However I never said I did not say those things and I never deleted them.
Howver you not being able to let it go does show your carnality and inmaturity.
How then sir can you spearhead a movenment called revolutionaries for justice ?
What justice ? Your own vendetta your own patback ?
Let go and let God.
You all love the Assembly way too much and cannot stand alone apart from an Organization thats the reason for all the emotions.
U still haven't walked away...
whats patback?
YA NINOS!
Skotty, so where does Bro. Baldemar congregation congregate now?
Never said i'd walk away from the blog.
It seems that you sir cannot lead a revolution.
You are led by your emotions and the desire to win an argument.
I just wrote a blog and submitted it...it was never posted because you guys are responding to fast..bleh
wow skotty what are you like 12 ?
Then again maybe that's why you had to manipulate the audio on your videos so that you would sound older hugh ?
You sounded more like a demon if you ask me.
Go edit some more videos or go play your Xbox or Wii
Rome... and Skotty how are you ?????
Rome, and Skotty please don't fight any more. I have Candyyyyyyyyyyyy!! :-) LOL..
Im trying to lighten up the mood here guys! come one give me break. :-)
Rome, Carlos, Skotty, Klu
If you all believe you are right, then you are. I'm tired of this ongoing banter. Don't let yourselves get so involved emotionally that more issues revolve out of it.
Yes, I can say I support R4J. However right now I am not being biased because I am telling you all that this is getting old. What happened to the good debaters?
Don't let others words get to you ALL.. Someone always told me.."A soft answer turneth away wrath but grievous words stir up anger"
launica
How are you doing?
Godisjust...
want some candy?
This thread has officially become irrelevant! Awesome!
I am just waiting for it to get to the point where one of you says "No I am not" and the other responds "Yes you are" "No I am not, "Yes you are"... repeat till you are sick.
Join the revolution and get a free hat to wear at the convention! That'll get them to sign up....
I'm diabetic but thank you lol just kidding..
how about some good ribs instead? lol
Godisjust...
Iam doing good and you? where are you blogging from? I am in Colorado :-)
launica
I am in California! Are you from Bro. Salomon's church?
Whatever happend to Sister Bella and her youtube?
Godisjust....
I used to go to his Church, born and raised under him. A good pastor he was but I got married and now go to a different church. My family is still with him. and you?
Sister Bella was FREAKIN awesome. I think she is FREAKIN getting ready to do another one. I cant FREAKIN wait!
I go to Dr. Montes church, born and raised!
It is unfortunate to be a middleman in all this. By middleman I am saying that I have friends who are with and now who are not.
I noticed someone mention a while back that Bro Jauhall was on the hit list as well.
Anyone know about that ?
Isnt he like in his late 70's or early 80's and in a wheelchair ?
Man that's jacked if they oust him.
So if they do that means they are also going after all of the consenters ?
Sister, you use Freaking too freaking much!! So Freaking knock it off! Or I will freaking report you to your,.....pastor! lol
henry
lol finally some comic relief!
That freakin freakin reminds me of a video that was up awhile back from convention.
They were interviewing youth about how convention was going and I swear they all said AWESOME ! like 20 times each.
Convention is awesome.
The sermon was awesome.
The praise was awesome.
The music was awesome.
The Choir was awesome.
The conferences were......... yup you guessed it ASWESOME !
LOL
Godisjust...
Its a very hard thing to go through. When I left the Assembly I went with the Iglesia Apostolica. Same thing its just that its from Mexico. And I had a hard time leaving my church, and even some said I was going with the "bad side" But I had to do what was right and follow my husband. Some times we make changes and other frown on us, but God is so good and he does not let us down....
I see no difference its the same doctrine, the same God my God is no different then there's its juist a different "ORGANIZATION". So I know what you are going through. But remember we are all family in Christ. Don't let at them any different, I don't when i see them I am happy because its like a family reunion. And they are the same with me happy and excited to see me.
launica
I know others oppose, but I am grateful to Skotty for showing us those videos. No matter what, those people's emotions were true. No one can deny what they went through. I just don't know what I am going to do if that happens to our church!
I vote we name little Bella as our poster child for the cause.
Quick someone put in another vote, because as we know TWO VOTES IS ALL IT TAKES!!!!
godisjust...
Don't worry about it let God fight the battle, and if it happens it's all done for a reason, we may not understand it at the moment, but God allows things to happen for a reason. Keep on going and stay faithful. you will see that God will let the people Israel conquer the land Of Canaan.
I am out every one God bless you all!
La unica!
Rambo
You're funny!
Skotty
If you're still here, it doesn't seem like it because you're quiet. You have proven your maturity because you left before it was too late. It seems you have been getting alot of "bashers" and I just want to remind you that you did a great job! Whether you are AA or not, it proves that God will use anyone to fulfill his purpose! I would like to congratulate you because (in my personal opinion), you allowed God to use you!
SUP?
Bye launica! Nice talkin to you!
Hey I found out who those girls were... that were at the protest. wearing pants and taking pix of every1, and giving the camera the finger...
wanna know who they were?
Skotty
Ok so you are here! Well thats what I wanted to share with you!
Let mE verify it first...
Skotty
Wow, that's all I can say! I don't want to judge but from the pictures you showed me, that is her!
Ok, so I missed alot since this morning! However it all seems to be the same stuff being said.
So here I go...
You can say what you want to, but we all seen the video, of Bishop Lugo with his smirk!
We all seen Daniel Sanchez could not even look at the camara!
We all seen that NOT ONE MINISTER,
said a word to bring the chaos to an end! NOT ONE!
NOT ONE said anything when that elderly sister got up to leave, NOT ONE!
NOT ONE, made any attempt to bring reason in the mist of chaos...Not One!
The way things took place were totally out of line! You can blame the youth,however they are the so-called leadership! They could have done things differently! Meetings of this nature are to be handled this way! And furthermore these type of meeting should always be recorded! For everyone's protection...This is not about who sued who,its about unethical mafia style leaders in the AA,who showed total disregard for 400+ pastors who thought they were there to vote,in the so-called 2006 elections! This is about a whole church being ex-communicated.
This is about the people of God being done wrong!
The gb did this!
They divided the church!
They continue to do wrong to the people of God!
They have not repented!
If they want healing they must step down!
Now we all know that their not going to step down, and next election it'll be the same thing!
We must pull the youth out NOW!
We must save as many as possible, before more got bitter,before more get lost and never come back to God!
PREACH IT BROTHER
PREACH IT!!!
I Recorded this mess to show every1 what is really going on... it is no longer hear-say...
You can See it.. ITs no longer just Reading Words On This Blog...
ITS ABOUT SEEING!!
aND THOSE that are Ignorant Pretend like what the people did was wrong?
U my friend have said it BEST!
bUT there are still those that DEFEND THE "Godly Boys" And Their "MAFIA" Style Tactics...
Every1 KEEPS pointing to the PAST... WELL YOU KNOW WHAT!!
THATS IT.. IT WAS THE PAST. THIS IS NOW!
IN THE PAST THERE WAS NO ISSUE WITH VOTER FRAUD... NOW ... THERE IS!!
You all Say BR did the same thing... and how does he like it now??
YOU NEED TO STOP LOOKING INTO THE PAST OR SHOW SOME PROOF THAT THE GB IN HIS DAY WERE NOT VOTED IN CORRECTLY...
BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT THIS WHOLE THING IS ABOUT!!
VOTER FRAUD!!!
AND THE SAD PART IS
THE GB KNOWS IT...
So keep pointing to the past If you wish...
-Skotty
They did this!
If Pastor Baldemar did thing of this nature, thats irrelevant!
They got caught!
They continue to do wrong!
They are doing wrong to the church!
I see a church following their Pastor!
And people who have never even met him are backing him up!
But the gb, the people of God are not following FALSE PROPHETS!!!!
Hey did anyone notice the apostolic website is down all of a sudden?
Hmm..one of them must be reading this blog!
Wow, that was fast, 10 mins after my post it's automatically up again? Can we say 24/7 blogger?
I just think it's funny!
And again,this is not about Pastor Baldemar Rodrigues!
This is about the gb and the so-called 2006 elections.
They got caught!
They did the wrong!
They must be held accountable!
Another funny fact before I leave...
There is a big red and black box on the apo website that says "Crisis Hotlines". I clicked it so I could find out if I could speak to anyone about what is going on.
What came up?
Nothing.. The bottom of the page said.. "Error Page" LoL
Their the bad guys!
SO WHAT'S THE WORD ON BISHOPS ARRELLANO, FORTINO & MONTES. THEY ARE AWFULLY QUIET. THEY MUST BE TOO WORRIED ABOUT RETRIBUTION BY THE GB TO SAY ANYTHING. IT IS SAD TO SEE GREAT MEN OF GOD COWER TO THESE THUGS, BUT THEN AGAIN I GUESS WE ARE IN THE SAME BOAT NOT WANTING ANYONE TO KNOW WHO WE ARE. WHAT A SAD, SAD STATE OF AFFAIRS...
M.Gallegos
That is exactly right! And EVERY SINGLE ONE of those Pastors who were at the 2006 Elections AND WHOSE VOTE WAS IGNORED should be taking this matter up with the GB not just leaving it to a few to carry the cross.
What is more sickening is that the GB themselves, prior to the elections, picked five Bishops to perform the job of counting the votes. These Bishops would in turn send the count over to the Calificadora. So that when the "SUPPOSEDLY ELECTED" officials were announced the five Bishops were astounded because they knew who had received majority votes each time.
The outrageous thing about all this is WHY DID THEY BRING THESE INNOCENT BROTHERS INTO THIS MESS. These brothers didn't ask to be involved, they were picked by Board Members.
They should have just picked some of their own to do the dirty work.
SERIOUSLY, WHERE DOES YOUR PASTOR STAND ON THIS?
WHERE DO YOU STAND ON THIS?
I WAS BORN AND BRED IN THE APOSTOLIC ASSEMBLY. I NEVER THOUGHT OF LEAVING. I NEVER THOUGHT OF WHAT LIFE WAS LIKE OUTSIDE THE ASSEMBLY. NOW IT SEEMS LIKE AN ALL TO CLOSE REALITY IN MY FUTURE.
ALL BECAUSE OF POWER HUNGRY MEN. MEN WHO MAYBE AT ONE TIME HAD THE HEART OF GOD, BUT NOW LUST FOR POWER.
BECAUSE OF THEM, NOW I BEGIN TO WONDER WHAT IT'S LIKE OUT THERE. WHAT DOES THE FUTURE HOLD FOR MY CHILDREN IF I STAND STILL AND DO NOTHING.
MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON ALL OF US IF WE CONTINUE TO STAND BY AND DO NOTHING.
We need to hold the pastors accountable,they need to speak up,or move out the way! I'm not going to be intimidated,those who will not take sides are cowards,plain and simple!
If you think leaving it in God's hands is the answer and praying about it,well we all know what happens when 400+ pastors pray about something!
It reminds me of joshua,when there was sin in the camp,and he was praying about it!God basicly told him stop praying and go take care of it!
Now you can interpret the scriptures your way it does not matter to me. they did this evil to the church and have not repented!
They did this!
They divided the church of God!
They were unethical!
They committed this act of wrong to the church!
AND...
NOW THEY ARE BEING REMOVED FROM POSITIONS AND CHURCHES ARE BEING SNATCHED AWAY! COMPLETE CONGREGATIONS ARE BEING LEFT WITHOUT THEIR CHURCH BUILDINGS!!!! THE CHURCH BUILDINGS THEY BUILT WITH THEIR OWN SWEAT.
All the GB ever did was to come cut the ribbon and pick up the Deeds.
So... Where IS the hOTLINE number i can call FOR INFO ON THE 2006 ELECTIONS???
I HAVE RECEIVED CALLS FROM THOSE OF THE OLDER GENERATION WHOSE HEARTS ARE BROKEN. WHO NEVER THOUGHT THEIR EYES WOULD SEE THIS DAY.
I HAVE RECEIVED CALLS FROM THE YOUNGER GENERATION ASKING "ARE THESE REALLY OUR LEADERS?"
I REMEMBER SOMETHING THAT PRESIDENT SANCHEZ SAID DURING HIS FIRST DAYS AS PRESIDENT ON HOW HE WANTED TO BRIDGE THE GAP THAT EXISTED BETWEEN THE OLDER GENERATION AND THE YOUNGER GENERATION.
I HAVE HEARD THIS MAN EXPLAIN HOW HIS HEART WAS TO REACH OUT TO THE YOUNGER GENERATION OF LEADERS, PASTORS, PREACHERS.
WHERE IS THAT MAN NOW? PRESIDENT SANCHEZ HAVE WE COME SO FAR THAT WE CANNOT REMEMBER THE REAL REASON THAT GOD CALLED YOU TO LEAD HIS PEOPLE?
WOW from AA info
LA INFAMIA DEL CID
Ahora sà que se portaron como todos unos carnales, han mostrado su falta de ética, han obrado sin compasión y sin misericordia, han no sólo atacado a siervos de Dios y sus familias, sino a las congregaciones, o distritos que estos supervisan o han supervisado.
Debo confesar que cuando vi lo que hizo y como se hizo, lloré, no han pensado que dirÃa el hermano Nava o el hermano Maclovio, el hermano Rivas o BenjamÃn Cantú, Canutito GarcÃa o Cirilo Leyba, Isabel MacÃas, Arturo Hermosillo, Epifanio Cota. Yo sé que unos de ellos eran de México, pero amaban la Asamblea; Dios los tenga en su Santo seno, pues aunque algunos de ellos no eran educados como ustedes, no hacÃan estas cosas; ahora en la Iglesia hay muchos Doctores y Bachilleres, pero ¿de qué les sirve?
¿Para guiar la Iglesia? ¿A dónde? Al fracaso; a la Asamblea la han colocado y catalogado con Peal Harbor y 911, sepan que el hombre por naturaleza es vengativo y como ustedes se están vengando, otros también se vengarán de ustedes. “No os hagáis muchos maestros, sabiendo que recibiréis mayor condenación”.
Yo traté a los hermanos que menciono y puedo decir que aunque a veces mostraron su humanidad, no atacaron a la Iglesia como ustedes lo han hecho, ellos tenÃan celo por la Iglesia y por que la amaban, obraban con misericordia y también por que les costó, ellos la vieron crecer desde su infancia, pero ahora, ustedes todo lo están haciendo con odio y venganza y sin o importarles las consecuencias de sus acciones, ustedes no están atacando al hombre, sino a la Iglesia.
Aunque me sobran porciones bÃblicas que citar, no lo hago porque como dijo el Apóstol Pablo habiendo comenzado por el espÃritu, ahora se han perfeccionado por la carne, lástima de los comentarios del Hermano Sánchez cuando tomó la presidencia, lo oà decir que le debÃa mucho al Hermano Baldemar; fueron palabras, sólo palabras.
Cuando esto comenzó el único que lo podÃa haber detenido era el hermano Sánchez, pero como Roboam, siguió el consejo de los mancebos; 1 Reyes 12:10-16. Y el pueblo se dividió.
Viendo lo que ha sucedido, y habiendo leÃdo el mentado CID, puedo decir que debÃan desecharlo como a un anatema, pues no ha ayudado nada, todo lo que ha causado es división en la Iglesia, pues con él clasifican a las gentes que no quieren que ocupen los puestos de la directiva, pero quien es el que puede decir quien sà y quien no tiene capacidad, idoneidad o derecho,
Lo que hacen es dar autoridad a la mesa calificadora para aprobar a sus amigos o para desaprobar a sus no amigos.
Este mentado CID descalifica a personas que por muchos años han trabajado en la directiva de la Asamblea, que IronÃa, que ingratitud, Dios tenga misericordia de NOSOTROS; seguro quien escribió dicha norma, fue inspirado por las fuerzas del hades, por que lo que no se habÃa logrado hacer contra la Iglesia en todas estas décadas, en un dÃa, se logró y se recibió con los brazos abiertos por las personas aquellas a las cuales nada les ha costado el desarrollo sano de nuestra amada Iglesia. Lo que estoy esperando es que no se les vaya a meter en la cabeza tocar al Hermano Jahull o a Isaac Cota, porque entonces sà se van a ver en un grande aprieto. I dare you.
Ante la Iglesia de México, y otras organizaciones no necesariamente del nombre, la Asamblea Apostólica va a venir quedando como una broma, o un sÃmbolo de fracaso y abuso de autoridad.
A los hermanos vÃctimas de su venganza no los van a ver como deshonrados, sino como a Mártires.
Quizá la mesa directiva no se ha dado cuenta, pero yo sé de muchos diáconos nuevos que han principiado sus propias congregaciones fuera de la Asamblea y muchas de las personas que no han puesto los tÃtulos de las propiedades en el nombre de la Asamblea, bien han hecho pues tienen una muestra de lo que la Organización: Asamblea Apostólica puede hacerles si no aprueban ciegamente sus acuerdos y si cometieron el error de poner las propiedades en el nombre de la Asamblea.
A los hermanos que han destituÃdo por reclamar del fraude que se llevó a cabo en las elecciones, los han dejado en la calle junto con sus familias y congregaciones, ¿esa es la misericordia que práctica la Asamblea Apostólica?
La carnalidad se ha manifestado, lo que se ha hecho, es peor que los pecados dizque mortales reconocidos por la constitución de la Honorable Asamblea, como son: Adulterio, Fornicación, Homicidio, Borracheras y muchos más, cuando alguien comete uno de los pecados citados, le afecto sólo a él o ella, lo que ustedes están haciendo, los afecta a ustedes y a toda la Iglesia del Señor.
En este caso, los que más se han beneficiado son: La Iglesia de México y la UPC, pues los hijos de Dios que han sentido la traición, tienen que buscar abrigo y aunque allá también hay problemas, cuando menos, por el momento no lo saben.
Yo digo que al autor del CID, lo deberÃan retirar como se hacÃa con los leprosos en los tiempos antiguos, pues con su diabólica inspiración, ha destrozado lo que se hizo con tantas lágrimas tanto de los siervos de Dios, sus esposas e hijos, yo no soy un ignorante y lo último que dije, lo digo figurativamente, pues sé que para ahorita, ya está bien atrincherado y protegido por las personas que por su desvarÃo han salido beneficiadas, aunque para alcanzar su objetivo, están matando a muchos,
!¿hasta cuándo Señor?¡
Felicidades Hermano Del Campo, no sabemos de donde necesariamente salió usted, pero ha hecho en un corto tiempo, lo que el diablo no habÃa logrado hacer en los últimos cien años.
P.D. Si no lo sabÃan, sépanlo, que hay mucha Inquietud en toda la Iglesia.
están advertidos.
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can some1 translate that?? please
http://thetruthatlast-justice.blogspot.com/
Skotty:
Can you get a picture from the video, where "Honorable" Bishop Lugo is Flipping you off when you are saying "we are citizens of the United States of America"?
Someone needs to Freeze Frame that and post it. Thats the oldest trick in the book.
That tells you exactly what the General Board of the AA thinks about the "Rights" of US Citizens. What they think of the US Constitution.
oK sERIOUSLY... I DIDNT WANT TO BRING THAT UP...
BUT I AM SURE GLAD SOME1 ELSE DID~!!!
I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT NOTICED he gave me the 1 FINGER SALUTE!
lol
yeah his glasses were'nt even low. lol
and he all of a sudden decides to push them up
WITH HIS MIDDLE FINGER!
THE TAPE DOESNT LIE!
I CAUGHT U LUGO!!! HAHAHA!
best part is THE PEOPLE BROUGHT IT UP... not even ME!!!
HAHA
YEAH...
AND ALSO
its about TIME some1 noticed WHY I REPLAYED IT OVER AND OVER!
lol
Yeah I can SNAP a Picure Of IT... ILL PUT IT ON MY PROFILE .. loL
Funny how they issue a crisis resource hotline. I wonder if that hot line is to start crisis God knows they have a hard time stopping them.
"Antonio"
Please come back and tell us more.
I am a senior and understand your thoughts. Your words of wisdom has taken me back and enlightened what I always knew.
There are so many open wounds that need to be heeled.
The bible says that the truth shall set you free. Many need to hear the truth.
Let us hear from you. We are listening.
Please explain the spirit of Bro. Lugo, in prayer I asked God why did he show such pleasure and enjoyment.
The Lord took me to the incident in the Bible, the book of Esther, the man named "Haman" a desendant of Hagag king of the Amalekites . What gets my attention when reading the book of Esther is the following,
1. Esther 3:1 Haman loved his power and authority and the reverent shown to him, however God's poeple looked to God as their final authoraty, not to any man.
Haman realized that the only way to fulfill his self centered desires was to kill all those who disregareded his authority.
2. Haman enjoyed the power and prestige of his position. Haman's anger was not directed just towards Mordecai, but towards towards what Modacai
stood for.
Haman's attitude was prejudiced. He hated a group of people because of a differnce in beliefs.
Considering one self better than others. In the end Haman was punished for his errogant attitude. Esther 3:
God will harshly judge those who are or whose pride causes them to look down on others.Haman must have hoped to acquire this tremendous sum of money by plundering the homes and businesses of the Jews who would be killed though his decree.
"spiritual sence,the pastors and families."
The pastors and those families that have been banned from what they always beleaved in are still standing because they beleave in God as we do. When you face challenges in life, seek to know what God wants you to do, and do it, confidence that He will do His part. Trust God and prepare to be surprized by the way He demonstates His Trustworthyness.
This is why us Senors still stand today, a desire to see this what we have in our younger generations.
"Can we help them?"
Does't this sound like what or how they are destroying inocent families who still love the doctrine by forcing them to make a decision.They love God and the doctrine. You could see it and feel it on the vidio.
The spirit of the Lord does not lie And it brought me to tears
God Bless You
Hope to hear from you Antonio
Jesus Loves You
If God allows such things to happen, if the things you say are true, why do you all think you can change it? You can sit in front of your computer all day and argue the same thing it still won't change what has happened. And yet you all show up at your Apostolic services like nothing but you're not fooling anyone but yourself. (members of pastors whose church were taken from them, exempt.)
And for those members following their pastors that were "lynched" I pray you don't lose your salvation by the time this is all over.
I'm from SD and a lot of people know what is happening. A lot of people from the east coast don't, so I passed along the links to the videos.
Come join Pastor Baldemar Rodriguez and his congregation!! Sundays @ 2:00 PM!
visit link for more information on services.
http://divinestrengthchurch.com/
http://divinestrengthchurch.com
http://divinestrengthchurch.com
OK SO I PUT UP SOME PIX ON MY BLOGSPOT...
http://skotty88.blogspot.com/
PLEASE DO NOT COMMENT ON MY BLOG... JUST COMMENT ON HERE...
Click ON each Photo for a larger one...
so what do you guys think??
Did he?
Solomon is said to be cutting a deal w/ the gb that would get him his church back! FRESH OFF THE PRESS!
M. Gallegos -
Great post! So the past is irrelevant because they got caught! So if they hadn't, then the past would have been relevant?
You sir win the prize. Pick any of the stuffed animals behind you and if you want a bigger one then just play again and if you win a second time, you can then trade in your current prize for the bigger FREAKIN prize.
Skotty!! You are FREEKING Awesome!
Post Lugos Pic EVERYWHERE!!!!
If you do click the crisis button on the AA webpage.. it takes you to a list of 3rd Party hotlines..
does anyone see the irony and comedy in that???
Our own website tells the world... if you need help... dont call us, call someone who cares (and is actually trained and eductaded in dealing with a crisis..)
You can't make this up.. lol... i doubt they see how inept we look to the rest of the world...
Don't ask Rev. Lugo for prayer, he just might give you the BIRD!! lol
Wow, It saddens me to see that a Bishop would do that. The proof is in the pudding and the pudding was just plain stirred.
The stills of the video said it all and I did not want to bring it up but I thought the same thing!
Brothers, it saddens me that you would jump to conclusions.
Maybe Rev. Lugo was FLIPPING OFF Satan.
You never know......
i am not wanting to start anything...
but has anyone submitted a prayer in the "prayer requests" button/section of the AA homepage.
Wouldn't it be interesting if everyone submitted their prayer that a new GB be actually "elected" and that the current adminisatration be ousted.
Do you think any1 at HQ would intercede on that request???
Just something that makes you go.. hmmmmmmmm :)
Dont DO it!
then can get ur IP ADDRESS FROM THE REQUEST...
Has anyone ever asked the question.
What would happen if the following sunday, or heck that very same day, after the church pastor is "excommunicated" or the congregation was "excommunicated" from the AA, they simply returned to the building to have service?
I mean, break the door down, or jimmy (comon we all know we have soem reformed burglars up in our church.. lol) the front lock?
What could they do? Call the police? Fine, what police department, or even mayor would want to be getting involved in this mess? If all else fails youw oudl attract media attention to what is going on. I'm talking 60's styled sit-ins.
What could they do, arrest you, drag you out, beat you? Fine, so be it, sacrifice youself for the cause. I would warn you, that it would have to only be "local congregation" people involved, to have a legitimate claim that what they have sacrificed and sweated for (the buildings etc) is stil theirs... and have a lgititmate claim to them...
its a win win situation for the protestors.. either you embaress the gb and force them to give you your building back, and reinstate the pastor, or you embaress them in the media..
imagine seeing a sister getting dragged by her hair and velo on the 6 o'clock news..??? lol that kind of image would make an impact like you could not belive.
If anyone is serious, I mean you really want to make change, than you need to force the issue. think forgive the cliche, outside the box. heck burn the box down and do what you have to do (under peacefule resistance) to get what is rightly yours.
Just a thought, as ghandi stated: "be the change you want to be in the world"
i think we realize we are not dealing with educated rationale men, its time we match them, and force it back down on them.
Again, peaceful resistance is the key!
Another ghandi saying:
1st they mock you, then they hate you, then they beat you, then you win!
My people, seriously, its time we do something.
Chairman Mao, an Apostolic in Exile....
And...???
what if they do get the ip address..??
what can they do.. its a legitimate request... on what legal ground can they persecute you?
Don't use profanity, and be sincere in your requests.
We are not them, we have nothing to hide.
Chairman Mao, an Apostolic in Exile
And...???
what if they do get the ip address..??
what can they do.. its a legitimate request... on what legal ground can they persecute you?
Don't use profanity, and be sincere in your requests.
We are not them, we have nothing to hide.
Chairman Mao, an Apostolic in Exile
SeTec Astronomy said...
M. Gallegos -
Great post! So the past is irrelevant because they got caught! So if they hadn't, then the past would have been relevant?
You sir win the prize. Pick any of the stuffed animals behind you and if you want a bigger one then just play again and if you win a second time, you can then trade in your current prize for the bigger FREAKIN prize.
Now I knew someone was going to do this, Ok so here I go.
Of all my post this is the only portion you can attact!
How lacking in understanding you are!
This is not about Pastor Baldemar Rodrigues!
This is about an unethical gb!
This is about the so-called 2006 elections!
This is about a whole church being ex-communicate on the W.W.Web!
This is about the elderly sister who walked out after her Pastor without a word from any man of God that was there!
This is about the wrong that was done to the church!
This is about people getting hurt!
I could go on but if what I've written thus far, means nothing to you, then nothing can be said to change your mind!
These things are happenning now!
People are being hurt! THE CHURCH IS HURTING!
THEY DID THIS!
THEY DIVIDED THE CHURCH!
THEY ARE UNETHICAL!
THEY ARE HURTING THE CHURCH!
skotty i wanna know who those girls were...the ones at the protest, taking pictures of everyone doing the protest and giving the camera the finger cuz i know they were not from rodriguez church...
i wanna know!!
Blessings
i_stand_4_one
skotty i wanna know who those girls were...the ones at the protest, taking pictures of everyone doing the protest and giving the camera the finger cuz i know they were not from rodriguez church...
i wanna know!!
Blessings
i_stand_4_one
skotty i wanna know who those girls were...the ones at the protest, taking pictures of everyone doing the protest and giving the camera the finger cuz i know they were not from rodriguez church...
i wanna know!!
Blessings
i_stand_4_one
They did this!
They divided the church!
They are unethical!
You want healing then step down!
Because we're not going to stop!
Not one minister tried to stop the chaos!
Not one minister tried to restore order!
Not one minister tried to help the people of God!
Not one minister said a word when that ELDERLY SISTER got up and walked out!
NOT ONE!
This wrong was committed against the CHURCH! GOD's CHURCH!
Careful Skotty, there's plenty of faithful members left. Don't let me find you.
Better hope we dont find you skotty. Sum1 that knows who's been holding the camera's gonna talk.
W-W-J-D?... SERIOUSLY...
Empty Threats... yet AGAIN...
FROM EMPTY SOULS...
i already talked though...
didnt u watch the video...
besides u already know who i am
"This IS SKOTTY
YOU KNOW ME
YOU'VE SEEN ME..."
dummy!
A.S.Soldier said...
Careful Skotty, there's plenty of faithful members left. Don't let me find you.
July 1, 2008 11:30 PM
A.S.Soldier said...
Better hope we dont find you skotty. Sum1 that knows who's been holding the camera's gonna talk.
July 1, 2008 11:31 PM
jic U decide to DELETE
To "Sola dei gloria":
Hi,sorry I did not respond sooner.
My radio program is out of Sacramento Ca. on 105.5 FM Radio Luz is the station, the program is called "Fuego de Azusa" and we air on Saturdays at 1:30pm...
We cover pretty much everything concerning Christianity and some Politics although we try not to mix the two, we have however spoken out alot against "homosexual-marriage"...
We can be heard up to Lodi-Chico and alittle further, also we can be heard in Reno NV. and some parts of the east bay...
I'm working on getting sponsors
so that I can buy more time.
i don't want to instigate but that sounded like a threat towards skotty from a.s.soldier...does any1 else agree?!?!?!? and if it is... what r u going 2 do when u find him??? turn him over to the gb??? we got your back skotty even tho' i don't know u!
This is not about Pastor Baldemar Rodrigues!
This is about an unethical gb!
This is about the so-called 2006 elections!
This is about a whole church being ex-communicate on the W.W.Web!
This is about the elderly sister who walked out after her Pastor without a word from any man of God that was there!
This is about the wrong that was done to the church!
This is about people getting hurt!
I could go on but if what I've written thus far, means nothing to you, then nothing can be said to change your mind!
These things are happenning now!
People are being hurt! THE CHURCH IS HURTING!
THEY DID THIS!
THEY DIVIDED THE CHURCH!
THEY ARE UNETHICAL!
THEY ARE HURTING THE CHURCH!
m. gallegos
i agree with you. it's not about Pastor Baldemar Rodrigues!
This is about an gb!
This is about the 2006 elections!
This is about a whole church being ex-communicate on the internet!
This is about the wrong that was done to the church!
This is about people getting hurt!
These things are happenning now!
People are being hurt!
THE CHURCH IS HURTING!
THEY DID THIS!
THEY DIVIDED THE CHURCH!
THEY ARE HURTING THE CHURCH!
THE CHURCH OF YESTERDAY IS DYING, THE CHURCH OF TODAY IS ILL, AND THE CHURCH OF TOMORROW WILL NEVER KNOW WHAT HIT THEM!
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! IT'S TIME TO STAND FIRM IN GOD AND WHAT HE ALLOWS US TO BELIEVE THAT IS TRUE!
GOD BLESS Y'ALL
I'm just going to keep saying the samething
This is not about Pastor Baldemar Rodrigues!
This is about an unethical gb!
This is about the so-called 2006 elections!
This is about a whole church being ex-communicate on the W.W.Web!
This is about the elderly sister who walked out after her Pastor without a word from any man of God that was there!
This is about the wrong that was done to the church!
This is about people getting hurt!
I could go on but if what I've written thus far, means nothing to you, then nothing can be said to change your mind!
These things are happenning now!
People are being hurt! THE CHURCH IS HURTING!
THEY DID THIS!
THEY DIVIDED THE CHURCH!
THEY ARE UNETHICAL!
THEY ARE HURTING THE CHURCH!g!
This is not about Pastor Baldemar Rodrigues!
This is about an unethical gb!
This is about the so-called 2006 elections!
This is about a whole church being ex-communicate on the W.W.Web!
This is about the elderly sister who walked out after her Pastor without a word from any man of God that was there!
This is about the wrong that was done to the church!
This is about people getting hurt
a.s. soldier
If I am not mistaken, this guy just might be Lugo. My sources told me that when Lugo and his crew went to change the locks of Dr. Baldemar's church..Lugo told Dr. Baldemar that is a soldier for Christ doing this.
That brings to thought another question.
If the people willing left...why did the gb have to change the locks then? Why didn't they just wait till after the removal service to change them, that would have been more subtantial.
In my personal opinion, this is evidence that the people were kicked out and not just those that followed Dr. Baldemar, yet those that stayed as well.
P.S. Whoever keeps talking about my Pastor Montes, let me just tell you something, he is going through a hard time right now. This is not easy for any Pastor that is still in the AA. He is praying and fasting, seeking God!
P.S. "a.s. soldier"
You call yourself a soldier, yet what have you stood up for? Any real solier would let themselves be known and put themself on the line for their cause.
GODISJUST...
Sorry, which montes... I know more than one, and myabe not the same montes family...
Houston, Indio?
Gallegos..
We get it...
Don't just repost the same text over and over...
please if you want, expand on your thoughts... or post on how you plan on goigna bout to cause change, etc.
Again.. noone has any thoughts on non-violent civil disobedience?
I think this is why we're in the rut that we are... those mostly affected by this must stand up, and take action, not just complain.
Hunger strike, mass sit-in, a media blitz? Nothing?
On a seperate note, does anyone know exactly how the HQ facility was vandalized? Propoerty damage, grafiti, the truth was spoken inside (lol)???
chairman_mao
Indio!
M.Gallegos
So let me get this straight you are saying-
This is not about Pastor Baldemar Rodrigues! This is about an unethical gb! This is about the so-called 2006 elections! This is about a whole church being ex-communicate on the W.W.Web! This is about the elderly sister who walked out after her Pastor without a word from any man of God that was there! This is about the wrong that was done to the church! This is about people getting hurt -
OK, just wanted to make sure since you posted this comment 4 or 5 times? It was your logic I was questioning. I do not have problems with yours and others opinions of the current status of the AA, but to say "The past is irrelevant, because they got caught..." Thats just flawed in so many ways... even on the radio.
Thats why I awarded you with such a wonderful carnival prize, because you need that type of flawed logic when you play those games at the County Fairs.
GodIsJust
Pastor Montes? Joel Montes?
Well, here's a news flash. The only way two-vote Eddie could win an election is to run again Joel Montes.
Montes was nominated for almost every GB position and he was not DQ'd by the by CID. Even then, he couldn't even get 2 votes to force a runoff!
He needs to stay out of politics and stop being a YES man for the DGB.
Or were you referring to pedophile Honorary Bishop Emeritus Dr. Pastor Fuciano Montes?
twovote
I am referring to Dr. Montes. I love my Pastor and your comments are just that, your own.
So anyone want to take a U.S. Citizenship Quiz?
Dr Montes?
What accredited instution did he receive his degree from? No thats not a disparaging question, I am sincere?
I see the same title used on Baldemar, so I'm an equal opportunity questioner (lol).
If you went about it the legit way, and earned (not bought from the AA, or some for-profit joke like the University of Phoenix.. see, again.. equal opportunity offender.. lol)then please by all means.
It just seems, had we actually had leaders who had been truly educated, we would not be in this mess.
If I am not mistaken I believe that Baldemar got his from Fuller Theological Seminary - very accredited
Montes from Logos via Vangaurd via Latin American Theological... at this point you can switch these in any order and they still represent the same thing.
Feel free to correct me on this one, I dont mind and will not be offended, really...
GodisJust-
And if I take this quiz I get...? I am intrigued by this.
Wait are you inferring by this that some here are illegal.. but wait.. maybe.. naw, I didn't think so.
Dr. Baldemar's degree is Honorary (unearned)
The citizenship quiz is for fun, I found it while looking up the news on my homepage!
I'm not going to go into my Pastor's business because that is not what I'm here for.
chairman_mao
Why do you think University of Phoenix is not a substantial University?
After reading the AA constitution, allow me to share some insights, straight from the source:
III. Trials involving pastors, ministers in charge of a new work, evangelists, assistant pastors and ordained ministers, shall take place in meetings presided by the respective district bishop and at least two elders, and include all necessary witnesses.
So the main point here is that a trial must occur. Did that happen here? No. Pastor Baldemar was summoned to a location in Rancho Cucamonga, where instead of going through the motions of a trial, he was served with a removal letter and a bribe. $3,000 monthly, i believe was the exact figure. I can be wrong in the figure. Either way, MEN OF GOD AREN'T FOR SALE.
It also reads as follows:
X. The accused parties shall have the right to present witnesses they consider necessary for their defense, and be counseled by a minister of the Apostolic Assembly, selected by the accused party, who may also be present at the trial.
Pastor Baldemar was ordered to come alone. Abel Torres and Willie Mendoza were also ordered to come alone. Saul Avila went as far as bringing his Co-Pastor and was told that he must wait outside. DARE TO CHALLENGE ME ON THESE FACTS. THEY ARE TRUE.
Basically, Pastor was entitled to a trial. He wasn’t allowed one. He walked in to receive his verdict, and only that. Also Pastor is entitled to bring witnesses. He and others were denied.
My question is, what can members of the AA do? The constitution illustrates what procedures to take when trying a member of the GB, but how can we get them to the trial? They have obviously broken two articles of the constitution, so where’s there trial? WHEN WILL YOU SPEAK UP?!
It’s time for someone to police the police. You as members have rights. I have given you the tools, now use them.
Use them before it’s too late and you watch the church you grew up in get sold to the highest bidder (mega church).
YOU ARE THE MAJORITY.
If everyone speaks out and brings these men to trial for breaking these articles of the constitution, they will have no choice but to comply. YOU ARE THE GOVERNMENT!
Everyone should take a lesson from history and the French Revolution. In a nut shell, the PEOPLE overthrew the Government that ruled over them. They rid themselves of the corrupt monarchy and placed THEMSELVES in charge, the French Republic. Now I am not saying that you should go to such drastic violent measures as the French revolutionaries, but I am also not saying to sit down and twiddle your thumbs.
THE CONSTITUTION has been violated by those who are supposed to be protecting it and upholding it.
I ask again, WHAT WILL YOU DO?
What have you to fear, majority?
They can't excommunicate ALL of you, can they?
Carlos
Wow, your state straight facts. That is needed in this forum! Thank you for sharing those articles with us! Have you shared those with R4J, those would probably come in handy for them.
Godisjust,
no i haven't, i misplace their email. lol.
somehow i think they'll read it tho, lol
Carlos
Hopefully they will, maybe Skotty will get on later and read it!
Maybe we should all be listening to this LIVE message by Scott Graham from the UPCI Louisiana Campmeeting :)
mms//golive.christianworldmedia.com/ladistrict
Copy and paste into your address bar. :)
sorry... the link is
mms://golive.christianworldmedia.com/ladistrict
That should work. :)
Because it is a For Profit Corporation, with shares, stock owners etc.
Don't confuse this with a "private" university, they are not in the same. This is primaryily a corporation. corporatiosn primary concern is profit, not education. So the degrees have always been mired in controversy because of the natural conflict of interest, from their very own setup.
A corporation will never do anything to harm itself, hence, grades are questionable, curriculum is questionable, etc.
2nd, I work for a Fortune 10 Company (yes 10, not 100, or 500) company, and as a warning, we do not value degrees from this institution int he same light as we would from a state or private university. We devalue them, and treat them suspect.
Those 2 reasons alone prettu much defeat the reasons why anyone owuld want a degree int he first place. SO, my advice to anyone, go to a state or pirvate university, 1 they are seen as more legit, companies will see them in a better light, and 3rd, you will save tons of money.
ahahahahaha
DAAAAAAAANNNNNGGGG CARLOS ...
YOU SHUT EVERY1 UP!!!!
Might I suggest that We All Download the Constitution
annotate it fully and SEND IT/SHOW IT TO THE "Godly Boys"...
Hey Lugo... R u Reading THIS???
HAHAHAHA
;)
Too many cheap Doctorate Degrees floating around the Apostolic Assembly.
If you ask most of them, they are either from:
1. La Puente Bible School(Logos)
2. La Vanguarde School.
Whom advertises in the Pennysaver for Security Guard, Dental Assistant, and Truck Driver.
From gardener to pastor in just 10 easy credits
LOL!!!
You Know...
EVERY Time I Watch The 2nd Video.
And I see Lugo At The FRONT And All The (P)Ushers, And The Quiet SaNCHES looking down... Not Even SAYING PRAISE THE LORD.. OR GOD BLESS YOU, as i did say to them...
ALL THAT COMES TO MIND IS THE SIMPLE SONG...
DIRTY DEEDS DONE DIRT CHEAP!!
DIRTY DEEDS DONE DIRT CHEAP!!
DIRTY DEEDS DONE DIRT CHEAP!!
Maybe I'll Use This SONG on my next vid... lol
n e requests for a song that i should use?
As sad as the latest casualty is (Solomon)(really his members) his hand was dirty at one time too (Team Tafoya) this mafioso is no joke. So, I think they call this karma.
As sad as the latest casualty is (Solomon)(really his members) his hand was dirty at one time too (Team Tafoya) this mafioso is no joke. So, I think they call this karma.
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