AV
- Abel Torres - LYNCHED I
- Saul Avila - LYNCHED
- Baldemar Rodriguez - LYNCHED
- Daniel Solomon - LYNCHED
- Arthur Tafoya
- Daniel Jauhall
- Isaac Cota
- Ishmael Arellano
- Julian Aguirre
- Richard Galaviz
- Samuel Arellano
- Guillermo Mendoza - LYNCHED
- Martin Vasquez
- Herman Garza
- Efrain Andrade - LYNCHED
- Isaac Hernandez - LYNCHED*
*Not 2006 Election related
3,402 comments:
«Oldest ‹Older 2401 – 2600 of 3402 Newer› Newest»Now he wasn't expected to be there! Here they are running in a circle trying to find him so they can remove him and he shows up right under their noses! Now you see him, now you don't.
Skotty...
Your assuming that I'm a AA member.
I am actually UPC.
I just call crap when I see it.
and yes...your dumb little group is crap
You have:
no power
no authority
no influence
no followers
majority of the pastors think your an immature little kid with a camera
Colorado, my prayers are with you.
UPC
Unjust Personal Convictions
upc at an apostolic blog...
GREAT TO SEE THAT WE HAVE THE ATTENTION OF ORGANIZATIONS OUTSIDE THE AA COMMUNITY...
THANKS R4J IS DUMB...
kEEP SPREADING THE WORD...
AND THE VIDEOS!
-SKOTTY
lilkid said...
its your choice to leave . . . and honestly how dare ppl( i mean "christians") talk back to men of GOD..
Your name says it all little kid Read the old posts, this was already addressed. If they were Men of God, they would not have struck down the Men of God. A house divided can not stand.
"AA DEVILS rule because we let them"
Abel Artie
Daniel Eddie Victor Ismael Leobardo Sam
Tell me who you're with and I'll tell you who you are.
R4J IS DUMB ( I STILL WANT A COOKIE) SAID...
"majority of the pastors think your an immature little kid with a camera"
i would love for you to give me the names of those pastors and the names of their churches, so i may
speak with them.
spread what word, that your R4J is nothing but a rebellious little joke?
you know...(though I am not proud of it) the UPC has gone through some major splits over the years; for many a' different reasons. Some reasons I agreed with, some not so much. This includes our most recent one over the Televison (which we all have BTW).
but there was a common denominator with all the splits and that was that whoever left, just left. They didn't show their maturity level by "picket signs" or video's or bashing our leaders. Though we disagreed with something that caused them to leave, they did have the respect of the leaders.
You my friend, lack respect, which shows me that you lack integrity and self esteem.
so that is why, I call you out SIR, and say that your stupid little club holds no more power than a backyard treehouse club.
I do tell people about your video's, not to promote, but to laugh at all your dumb antics.
I do feel sorry and I pray for the AA right now because of your rebelious spirits.
and please stop it with your...
"What would you do if you were locked out of your home" crap.
Get over it already.
Skotty said...
R4J IS DUMB ( I STILL WANT A COOKIE) ....yes I do want one, do you have one near you?
"i would love for you to give me the names of those pastors and the names of their churches, so i may speak with them."
since you seem very resourceful with the constitution, surely you have access to list of churches and pastors...
why don't you call them and let them know that your the dumba$$ who made the video and that your looking for their support.
yeah, i think we both know the answer to that question.
r4j is dumb (i want skotty's cookie) said...
1)
"but there was a common denominator with all the splits and that was that whoever left, just left. They didn't show their maturity level by "picket signs" or video's or bashing our leaders. Though we disagreed with something that caused them to leave, they did have the respect of the leaders."
First off.. get in the know...
Nobody Left dude... they were kicked out... they kicked out BR. KICKED OUT FOOL!!!
Dont you think BR would HAVE LIKED TO STAYED for the 08 CONVENTION! our LEADERS SHOWED THEIR LACK OF RESPECT TO MEN OF GOD THAT THEY GAVE THE BOOT TO...
2)
"since you seem very resourceful with the constitution, surely you have access to list of churches and pastors...
why don't you call them and let them know that your the dumba$$ who made the video and that your looking for their support."
I only ASKED because you seemed very sure of yourself... i have no need to call the upc pastors, i just thought that you would have liked for me to call those that oppose R4J i mean u did say that most of them thought i was sum little kid with a camera right?
but i guess you speak for yourself, since you are obviously not even in the know in your own organization...
you see on this blog we have a little rule that is rarely spoken of...
"YOU DONT POST, WHAT YOU CANNOT BACK..."
IN OTHERWORDS... YOU HAVE ALOT OF BARK BUT NO BITE...
BUT please continue to bash R4j im am actually ENJOYING this...
-SKOTTY
I do not agree with the current General Board's actions.
They began with fraud and are continuing with arrogance removing pastors out of retaliation.
However I agree with those that say the revolutionaries for justice will not accomplish much.
What does ranting and raving on a blog do ?
What good does recording a video do ?
Is that really that revolutionary ?
The fact that they are still so upset about it shows how hurt they are about being booted from The Assembly.
Who cares about an organization. The AA cannot do anything for you anyway.
You all should move on and be happy that you got out of that horrible organization.
Nothing but preaching about being against pants, make up and wedding
rings.
Is that all we are about in the Assembly ? Legalism,Nepotism and Cronyism ?
Move on already !
Alert!!
The appeal was file last week in Riverside, congratulations to Bishop Torres for showing courage.
Pastors get ready get ready.
Torres
Congratulations!!!!!!
I wonder if Malvalverde is still going to the northwest in august????
TO R4J is dumb:
You said:
"but there was a common denominator with all the splits and that was that whoever left, just left. They didn't show their maturity level by "picket signs" or video's or bashing our leaders. Though we disagreed with something that caused them to leave, they did have the respect of the leaders.
Please go to the following blog so you can see how much "respect" your fellow UPC'ers had/have.
The UPC has their own blogspot. Again, you just prove that holier than thou mentality prevails everywhere and it's usually the thing that gets everyone in trouble.
http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com/index.php
People are entitled to vent and have personal opinions, whether we like it or not. NO ONE IS PERFECT. God made us fearfully and INDIVIDUALLY.
As much as I tried to stay out of this I could no longer resist and had to write this letter to you regarding the drama the AA is currently going through. I believe these kinds of troubles have always been going on with the board but now with the blogs, video cameras, emails and let's not forget the cell phone video cameras we are all better connected and informed. We all hear about the latest scandal one way or another and may even see a video of it. I know this because I went online to see the video of those poor members being asked to leave from Bro. Baldemar's church as he was being FIRED. I had to shed tears for those misplaced members. It hurt my heart to see the disrespect for the work of God from both parties.
I was born and raised an Apostolic and had many fun times at Camp Sealey, District services and Campanas with my fellow Apostolics but must say that today I am happy to be part of the UPC church instead of the AA. I was tired of seeing all the energy going into preaching against the jewelry, makeup, pants and instead of spending that time and energy helping those Pastor's kids that hated the AA for feeling neglected because of all the time their parents spent in church services, meetings and conventions instead of spending quality time with their families. I mean really do you have to have the convention during Thanksgiving????
I also have always had the "Chicano Power" attitude but during all this confusion, disrespected for the men of God and unprofessionalism I have seen that for this same reason this is why "our people" do not progress. We are ghetto! I can't say I feel bad for those pastors that were removed, after all I am sure they were once those men doing the removing but unfortunately now it is their turn to be removed. I do feel bad for those souls that may be lost to the world because of this confusion. I just would like to remind Bro Lugo and his posse that today they remove pastors but tomorrow they may be the pastors being removed. After all the good word tell us that "As I have seen, those who plow iniquity and sow trouble reap the same" or "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap". THEY ARE NOT ABOVE THE LAW. It also tells us "Always be prepared to make a defense to any one who calls you to account for the hope that is in you, yet do it with gentleness and reverence" or "I urge you the more earnestly to do this in order that I may be restored to you the sooner". Even a company run by worldly men have more respect for their disgruntle employees than the Board had for these pastors. When we fight among each other there are no Winners just a butch of LOSERS! Let's stop the nonsense and remember we serve a Great God not man, or the Board or even our pastor's.
I would rather feel the wrath of man then that of the Lord's. HE WILL have the last word.
God Help this Assembly.
As much as I tried to stay out of this I could no longer resist and had to write this letter to you regarding the drama the AA is currently going through. I believe these kinds of troubles have always been going on with the board but now with the blogs, video cameras, emails and let's not forget the cell phone video cameras we are all better connected and informed. We all hear about the latest scandal one way or another and may even see a video of it. I know this because I went online to see the video of those poor members being asked to leave from Bro. Baldemar's church as he was being FIRED. I had to shed tears for those misplaced members. It hurt my heart to see the disrespect for the work of God from both parties.
I was born and raised an Apostolic and had many fun times at Camp Sealey, District services and Campanas with my fellow Apostolics but must say that today I am happy to be part of the UPC church instead of the AA. I was tired of seeing all the energy going into preaching against the jewelry, makeup, pants and instead of spending that time and energy helping those Pastor's kids that hated the AA for feeling neglected because of all the time their parents spent in church services, meetings and conventions instead of spending quality time with their families. I mean really do you have to have the convention during Thanksgiving????
I also have always had the "Chicano Power" attitude but during all this confusion, disrespected for the men of God and unprofessionalism I have seen that for this same reason this is why "our people" do not progress. We are ghetto! I can't say I feel bad for those pastors that were removed, after all I am sure they were once those men doing the removing but unfortunately now it is their turn to be removed. I do feel bad for those souls that may be lost to the world because of this confusion. I just would like to remind Bro Lugo and his posse that today they remove pastors but tomorrow they may be the pastors being removed. After all the good word tell us that "As I have seen, those who plow iniquity and sow trouble reap the same" or "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap". THEY ARE NOT ABOVE THE LAW. It also tells us "Always be prepared to make a defense to any one who calls you to account for the hope that is in you, yet do it with gentleness and reverence" or "I urge you the more earnestly to do this in order that I may be restored to you the sooner". Even a company run by worldly men have more respect for their disgruntle employees than the Board had for these pastors. When we fight among each other there are no Winners just a butch of LOSERS! Let's stop the nonsense and remember we serve a Great God not man, or the Board or even our pastor's.
I would rather feel the wrath of man then that of the Lord's. HE WILL have the last word.
God Help this Assembly.
To Scotty:
You said,
"YOU DONT POST, WHAT YOU CANNOT BACK..."
I almost fell off my chair lol when I read this quote.
Since in reality one of your rules is to post things you cannot back.
It is a custom of Rev. 4 Injustice to post things they cannot back.
By the way to all those who think A. Torres pulled a fast one showing up in Long Beach. Get your facts straight, he called Bishop Sanchez and asked permission to attend the conference and was granted permission, but since he is not an AA pastor anymore he was unable to attend the meeting on Friday only for pastors.
As far as the restraining order, that’s all going to fall apart and the AA will recover the building, it's just a matter of time. I do respect A. Torres and don't want to speak ill of him, but I disagree with what he and plaintiffs did.
As far as the filing of the appeal, I feel sorry for those of you who have your hopes on it. It will only give you one more defeat and will be a waste of $$ and time.
factsonly
You really do need to change your handle buddy.
Abel Torres did NOT call Sanchez beforehand AT ALL. When he got there he went straight up to Sanchez to ask for permission to be there and Sanchez had no alternative but to accede. Not in front of all those Pastors!
You don't know the difference between making up stuff and facts.
Hey "madeupstuffonly" are you back on your chair?
You can ask any of the pastors there. As for the restraining order they broke it when it WAS in effect, so they know what that means. Ask them.
To Becca,
Dear sister I understand you pain and sadness but please don't pass judgment on the decisions of our leaders since you don't know all the facts. The GB of the AA tried through many letters and pleas to resolve this issue but the plaintiffs didn't back off their position. The decision to remove these pastors was done with prayer and counsel. It was a decision made by Our General Board and with the backing of the majority vote of all the Bishops (and even former bishops)and the majority vote of the District boards affected. They had all the facts and made this decision.
I do feel for the souls and sincere bretheren, but the behavior and disrespect of many members on the video and on this blog only added to their hurt and confusion.
madeupstuffonly
Oh you lying fool! Hey Becca see for yourself the letters asking for an amicable solution to this whole mess actually came from from the Plaintiffs and many supporters.
Hey "madeupstuffonly" are you back on your chair? Sit on it.
How about the prayers of 600 pastors at the elections while the GB connived and placed their family and friends in positions?
Prayer and counsel - ha-ha
To Rambo:
I'm glad the truth is coming out, if you had this knowledge why didn't you share it before? It was not to your convenience, right.
I do retract the comment "he called" (at least I'm man enough to accept misquotes, not like Rev. of Inj.). But the point is, he asked permission and was granted permission, and B. Sanchez did have an option, he could have said no. Just like he made the decision to not allow him at the meeting the next day, and yes he announced to all pastor's in attendance of not allowing him. Ask any pastor that attended.
To Rambo:
As far as the restraining order, it was illegal and the outcome of this will soon come out.
To Rambo:
Don't worry becca can see your "Christian" attitude and you habit of always insulting people.
As far as letters there's plenty that were not publicized, that were read to the pastor at the conference. They will also be read at the convention.
The reason they were not publicized was because they were not to their convenience.
All the truth will come out.
EXACTLY all the truth will come out and not MADEUPSTUFF!
I'm not saying anything else there are some things better left unsaid for the time being. Ta-Ta
To Rambo,
As far as the 2006 elections a judge ruled in favor of the GB.
If pastors don't agree with the constitution or electoral process then they have the authority to change it.
There has always been a qualifying board since the day's of AC Nava.
And how many people do you think Baldemar Rodriguez disqualified?
As Bishops how many pastor and people do you think A. Torres and D. Salomon disqualified?
So, madeupstuffonly
You had to take back your so called fact that Honorary Bishop A. Torres called Sanchez for permission AND your talking about non-existent GB letters!
Boy, you lost any minuscule credibility you might have had.
Come again,
Well those "non-existence letters" you say are actually existent and they will be read at the convention. All the Bishop received copies of them. I know you don't like it but it's the truth.
Dan. 4:25-32
…Seven years will pass, and then you will learn this lesson: The Most High God is ruler over every kingdom on earth, and he gives those kingdoms to anyone he chooses…
…God’s rule is forever, and his kingdom continues for all time. People on earth
are not truly important. God does what he wants with the powers of heaven
and the people on earth. No one can stop his powerful hand or question what he does.
…..give praise and honor and glory to the King of heaven. Everything he does is right and fair, and he is able to make proud people humble.
The Holy Bible : New Century
Latest discovery,
lilkid, idiot apo, r4j is dumb, and factsonly1 all know each other!!! They actually got together and planned to come into this blog to pass inaccurate information!
a couple of the are even related to the dishonorable GB. So don't waste your time they are all a bunch of kiss ..sses.
Now look here factSONly1,
The GB of the AA tried through many letters and pleas to resolve this issue
1st, you say no one knows the facts. Then you try to pass off your 'SON of SAM' lies as truth.
but please don't pass judgment
2nd, you are the one passing judgement. Do you walk on water 'SON of Aguilar'?
but the behavior and disrespect of many members
3rd, They trusted and followed the MoG - That's RESPECT. You only now how to address the negative. Apparently, that's your game, a true 'SON of a Bi
shop'.
As far as the 2006 elections a judge ruled in favor of the GB.
4th, The judge did not validate the elections. He invalidated the constitution. You're twisted 'SON of Pachueco'.
Please take the time to REALLY get the facts straight. Visit www.apostolicassembly.info. Then you may have a better picture of what's happened/happening.
Also, don't leave out the MoG turned coward's letters Skotty has reclaimed: ArtTafoya
"AA DEVILS rule because we let them"
Abel Artie
Daniel Eddie Victor Ismael Leobardo Sam
Tell me who you're with and I'll tell you who you are.
haha so the guy that is facts only misspoke! That is pretty funny. He wants to be credible but he's far from it.
To cbg:
Your comments are nothing but lies.
I do want to tell you one thing,
“Repent be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
To two vote and co.
The truth hurts, but you can't deny it.
Speak valid intelligent points and I will respond.
iSTRETCHtheTRUTH(ALOT) SAID...
"To Scotty:
You said,
"YOU DONT POST, WHAT YOU CANNOT BACK..."
I almost fell off my chair lol when I read this quote.
Since in reality one of your rules is to post things you cannot back.
It is a custom of Rev. 4 Injustice to post things they cannot back."
Then A COUPLE OF POSTS AND SOME MORE STRETCHING OF THE TRUTH LATER...
"I do retract the comment "he called" (at least I'm man enough to accept misquotes, not like Rev. of Inj.)"
OK IM GONNA SAY WHAT EVERYONE IS PRETTY MUCH THINKING!
YOU SIR... ARE A GIRL...
THERE i said it...
youR POSTS ARE FAR FROM THE TRUTH!
yOU NEED TO STOP FOLLOWING MAN I.E. THE "Godly Boy" Crew....
You need to open your eyes and your heart... i know you are upset that your BUDDIES on the gb WERE CAUGHT ON VIDEO AND they cannot take back what they did. but please stop taking out your anger on R4J for standing up for what is right... and also standing up for what YOU KNOW is right... QUIT lying in your posts, tell the truth. its not that hard...
SKOTTY
factsonly1 said...
To cbg:
Your comments are nothing but lies.
I do want to tell you one thing,
“Repent be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
July 14, 2008 3:13 PM
OMG dude I just FELL OFF MY CHAIR LAUGHING!!!
to Factsonly1,
You said,
"Your comments are nothing but lies.
I do want to tell you one thing,
“Repent be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit."
First of I congratulate you for quoting Scripture. Next time write down the actual book, chapter, and verse where it came from (Acts 2:38). However, from an unconverted soul to a wishy washy Christian, your attempted rebuke IS A JOKE!!!!
ANY other true Christian would have tried to talk to a sinner first, in spite of what the sinner says. But YOU, you are typical of the GB mentality that as soon as somebody tells you something you don't like you start rebuking! WHAT A JOKE YOU CHRISTIANITY IS.
I wish I knew what church you go to so when I visit as an unconverted soul, I want to see how you talk to me then in front of your pastor and peeps. WHAT A SORRY EXCUSE FOR A CHRISTIAN YOU ARE factsonly1 - What a dumb ..ss!
Skotty,
The sad thing is this factsonly1 character is probably sitting in the General Office on daddy's computer and getting paid to stir things up here.
Like always you hide under the cave of "I'm a soul". You want people to talk to you like a soul but you are nothing but an unrepented, hardened heart man.
You have no excuse not to repent and accept God. Your family is Christian, you have heard the message but still choose to reject Jesus in you heart.
What a hypocrite to go all that time to Pastor Valverde's church only to go on the blog and bash him. Is your family the same way or different? Just a question.
By the way the purpose of going to church is to seek Jesus not to criticize people.
Stop rejecting Jesus, Repent, don't make excuses, your excused will not be valid in the day of judgment.
Last posting was for cbg
madeupstuffonly
Okay I'm back and you haven't left.
Here you are still spewing lies left and right.
Your also ridiculous comment -
"As far as the restraining order, it was illegal and the outcome of this will soon come out."
You fool do you have any idea what it takes to get a restraining order? Illegal?! Now I've heard it all. That is I've heard it all until your next blog. The outcome my dear is that "they are in contempt".
Rambo,
Don't speak to soon, you might have eat your words.
Don't worry with time we'll find out the outcome.
This will be another defeat for you.
To factsonly1,
Your quote, "You have no excuse not to repent and accept God. Your family is Christian, you have heard the message but still choose to reject Jesus in you heart."
Answer, Do you know why I reject Jesus in my Heart? Dumb ..sses like you have NO IDEA! Let me enlighten your little, pathetic aposolic world. I REJECT JESUS, BECAUSE EVERYTIME I GET TIRED OF THE WORLD AND TRY TO SEEK REFUGE IN CHRIST (church) PEOPLE LIKE YOU REMIND ME THAT THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE IN THE CHURCH AND IN THE WORLD I LIVE IN!!!! As a matter of fact "factsonly1" there is even a possibility that if I die in my sins and go to hell I MIGHT SEE YOU THERE! Cause your heart is just as hard as mine!
Secondly, you said, "What a hypocrite to go all that time to Pastor Valverde's church only to go on the blog and bash him. Is your family the same way or different? Just a question." Answer to your question. I'm related to you so we have the same family!!! You and your family are NO DIFFERENT THAN ME WHEN IT COMES TO OUR HEARTS AND CHARACTER. Just look at your fruit and mine - WE ARE PERCEIVED THE SAME DUMB ..SS!
As far as hearing the Word! Oh yes I know where I stand, but my friends, family, and even bloggers know that I admit my iniquity! But YOU, you hide behind a religios spirit that is just that RELIGIOUS. If you want to know what PURE, UNDEFILED religioun is go to James 1:27. You might claim you're unpolluted from the world but your attitude is manifested in your bloggs.
Now I understand why your blindness doesn't let you understand that the LACK OF INTEGRITY, and MORAL ETHICS in the GB is also seen as sin! why because "Like tying a stone in a sling is the giving of honor to a fool." Proverbs 26:8.
Oh SNAP, you probably don't even understand this Scripture hu? Dumb ..ss!
hey Rebellious Jokers,
So with all your talk, mess, scrutiny, rage, anger, etc, etc.
So you have ANYTHING to stand on?
Like...DO YOU HAVE A POINT?
Will i be able to look back in 5 yrs and say "wow, the revolutionaries...man, what a difference they made"
because of their assistance they were able to accomplish:
1. ??
2. ??
3. ??
4. ??
5. ??
i think we all know the answer to that... ZERO!!!! NOTHING! because:
You have no:
power - no one really wants to be associated with you
influence - no pastor cares about you
authorty - you have legal say in anything
other than your dumb camera, you have NOTHING!
Hey scotty, where's that cookie that you promised??
To R4J is dumb
WOW you said, "hey Rebellious Jokers...You have no:
power - no one really wants to be associated with you
influence - no pastor cares about you (WOW)!
authorty - you have legal say in anything
other than your dumb camera, you have NOTHING!"
WOW Spoken like a true Christian apostolic - Doesn't he sound just like factsonly1. what a dumb ..ss! I REST MY CASE!
Does Pacheco have any cars for sell?
Or houses?
Or is he out campaigning for Elections 2010? He may need more than TWO VOTES this time around.
well, do they have a following?
no they don't.
and thats the funny part about it all.
you haven't won jack
To cbg:
You said,
I'm related to you so we have the same family!!!
This you wish but fortunately NO We do not have the same family. You have no clue who I am. Your tricks will not work.
The fact that you admit to keep rejecting Jesus is very sad. But I'm glad you confessed it so reasonable in this blog know who the followers of Rev.4 Injustice really are, rejecters of Jesus.
Don't put your eyes on man, put them on Jesus, if you would truly seek refuge in Jesus you would find it, but instead choose to be involved in the sins of rebels.
As far as seen you in hell, wrong again, I give to glory to God that I have accepted Jesus. He's my savior.
He can be yours if you repent of your hypocrisy.
By the way does your family know how you bash P. Valverde? And why did they accept him as their pastor?
CBG, Repent and be baptized.
R4J
Thank you, thank you! Applause
Just what I wanted - to get a rise out of you!
As if I was gonna buy a car from a proven shyster!
What about a house?
Again I say what is all this trash talking going to benefit anyone ?
Other than it being mildly entertaining it does nothing for your cause.
I got caught up in it on my earlier posts and am guilty of talking junk myself.
But honestly folks are any of us any better off because of it ?
Has God been glorified thru it ?
Has your Revolution made any advancements because you call people and IDIOT,MORON etc....
Is all of this going to have an effect on how the Assembly is run ?
The Assembly is so far gone and infected because somewhere along the way it allowed MEN to take over and begin to appoint rather than allow God to Anoint.
So if you want change begin with yourself.
You want to start a revolution ? Reach your family, friends and neighboring community with the Gospel.
Focus and plug yourself into working at your local church.
And let the crumbling Assembly fall or rise up again, it does not matter.
Cause when all is said and done it is nothing more than a man made organization.
Factsonly1,
Is tat ALL you have! A continuos reference to my family. By the way, for your information Valverde is not the same person in church, as he is when he is with the GB. Talk about hipocrites - HE IS NUMBER ONE!
By the way, when I approached him by ourselves with a few questions and told him what I knew, he didn't know how to answer. As far as my family - keep them out of this, or I too will be LIKE YOU and resort to religious, unchristlike comments about them also!
I cna go all day with thelikes of you factsonly1, because I have no respect for people who profess one thing and manifest another! So bring it on dumb ..ss. Oh and why don't you tell me where you go to church so I can visit you and we both can repent and maybe even baptized!
--------------------------------
To R4J is dumb,
You said, "No, your stupid family bought them all, you schmuck." WOW! Again I say WOW!!
For sure you must be related to the Pacheco family, because that's the way they express themselves. By the way Do you know factsonly? Dumb ..ss!
Really? They say Schmuck? Man they're giving Jews a bad image.
To Rambo:
It looks like you can only resort to insulting the GB when you don't have any foundation to stand on.
R4J is dumb, is right you have no power, no real followers, actually he gave you too much credit in one year you will disappear.
r4jis dumb, made some valid points.
You're been exposed.
Talk about been real Crhistians,
do you think is of real Christians to insult the GB
In order to have a foundation, first I gotta get a house. Know where I can buy one?
cbg,
Oh now you want to keep the family out of this.
what about all the comments you made of P. Valverde's family who have nothing to do with this.
Repent and be baptized.
rome,
In one way I do agree with you about all the insults not glorifying God.
But there's a lot of inaccurate information that is posted in this blog and we need to correct this people.
It would be nice to have respectful discussion here, but when you say something people disagree with they insult you. That is the custom of Rev 4 Injustice.
What about those comments factsonly1? You want to bring the family in GO RIGHT AHEAD - YOU probably come from a long line of DUMB ..SSESS!
How is that? Do you like? Oh and by the way, people (including myself) talk about them, because WE HAVE SEEN THEM IN ACTION! Have you seen mine? Bring it on dumb ..ss!
Facts
hey dude so did you find out if they let monkeys in to church! My pastor doesn't but I guess yours doeslol So all you stupids know each other (r4jisdumb, factsonly1,lilkid and idiotapo)SO IM GUESSING ONE OF YOU IS A DONKEY THE OTHER A SNAKE AND THE OTHER A TWO HEADED CHIC!!!!!!!!!
to cbg,
Go ahead keep discrediting yourself on this blog. That is my goal to expose all the rev.4injustice for who they really are.
foul mouth rejecters of Jesus.
Repent and be baptized.
Phantom,
Another "real Christian" follower of Rev 4 injustice. I want reasonable people in this blog to know the kind of people who are backing Baldemar Rodriguez and Co. and who attend their church.
A bunch of foul mouths who are not good at anything except to be perfect insulters and rejecters of Jesus.
Whoo! its been a while, i guess, and i've seen we've gotten a bit off subject.
somehow or other the last 100 comments (or so) have been about scotty and his videos. WOW.
Interestingly enough, alot of comments come from only1. Sir, do you have a life? I was on here quite a bit... WHEN I WAS ON VACATION. Good Grief young brother! With all the rebuking you've done about prayer and such I come to wonder.... WHEN DO YOU HAVE TIME TO PRAY WHEN YOU ARE ON THIS BLOG ALL THE TIME?
Seriously, Factsonly1, rome, r4jisdumb, and the rest if all you want to do is talk about skotty and then form a Skotty fan club and leave US alone...
But what i really think is, you all are attacking the videos to create ruckus and distract people from the REAL issue at hand: The corruption, the deception, and evil intentions of these so called men of God.
Video, or no video, you cannot deny FACTS. These men decided THEIR opinion of someone's CAPACITY, SUITABILITY, and RIGHTS (CID) is more valid than GOD's opinion. 400 pastors voted and we're supposed to accept that they were ALL WRONG??? God only speaks to the GB??? is THAT why they are closing down all the churches and building MEGA churches?
it reminds me of when Hussein was ruling Iraq. Every 4 years, an election was held in Iraq. the only candidate: Saddam Hussein. Noone ran against him for fear of death. Noone voted against him for fear of death. So why bother have an election?
Has anyone here asked their pastor that? If the CID (which is a ludicrous excuse for a legal document) is to be followed as it has been, WHY BOTHER HAVE AN ELECTION?
Members of the Apostolic Assembly: WILL YOU ALLOW THE GB TO PUT YOUR VOICE ON MUTE?!
For crying out loud, even POPE BENEDICT was elected democratically!
You are WRONG general board.
WRONG. WRONG. WRONG.
And EVERYONE sees it.
And on a side note: I cannot believe the extent that these basher have come to. PASTOR BALDEMAR WAS NEVER IN THE HOSPITAL. He is alive and well to say the least. God has strengthened him. Armed with courage, faith, and stamina. His 250+ member congregation is firmly behind him 100% as well as MANY other pastors and bishops (sources say).
"CORRE, IGLESIA, CORRE," indeed.
well bloggers! lunch break is over.
c ya tonite!
I'll be back at 8.
CORRE, IGLESIA, CORRE.
This blog is becoming a joke.
Come on all rev. 4 injustice let the world know who you are.
From the abundance of the heart speaks the mouth.
fatsonly1,
"Go ahead keep discrediting yourself on this blog. That is my goal to expose all the rev.4injustice for who they really are.
foul mouth rejecters of Jesus.
Repent and be baptized."
It that your comeback? Is that all you have? What a girl! Ooops, sorry don't want to doscredit the girls!!!
"keep discrediting yourself..." Man YOU DID THAT A LONG TIME AGO! If you really look at my bloggs you would have discovered that all I deal with is discredited dumb ..sses like you. But you're so blind you can even see that. Just ask Sam, he'll tell you.
By he way if you want to have adult, mature conversations, then begin with yourself! STOP making such dumb ..ss comments - DUMB ..SS!
Facts
said
This blog is becoming a joke.
Come on all rev. 4 injustice let the world know who you are.
hey stupid unlike you anyone can click on my heading and view my profile! Who are you? I really think you are a girl!
Even if BR's church walked out. The locksmith was there to change the locks. Now to me that is pretty close to getting or on the edge of getting kicked out.
They were locked out of their own church.
The ones that have paid the price for the building, and then for the GB just to come in and take after it has cost them nothing. Thats pretty messed up.
I'm 54 years old and been in the AA just about my whole life and just have one to to say to Skotty:
Great Job
Don't drop the sword or should I say camera.
Hola pin-tado teclas,que bueno que me encuentro uno que habla mi dailecto.ya te identificas conmigo al hablar de guey.hijo de tu pin-madre bete a la chin-a bailar tu y tu jefa hijo de pu-ra calabaza.
gracais por lo de el coyote pero por juares no paso me puedo volver como tu.punal de cocina hijo de la rechiflada mandarina y no china.
Bueno, ay se lo laban todos recuerden que los calores tanto aqui en Guerero como aya con ustedes esta caliente.a banarse especialmente tu pi-ntado teclas.chiflas a tu mauser ok.
estamos en contacto muchachos
Ha y los numeros Damelos como son hijo de per-dida pagina..
Att el pestayo.Que Viva Mexico
Snoopyd
Your post was very informative and encouraging. It is true about our revivals and I agree, they are needed not only for revival yet for the continuance of the gifts beings stirred in our hearts. Spiritual growth is vital and the Lord is coming soon!
Did you know that the Jews are getting ready for their messiah's coming? (Which is the second coming of Christ for Christians) It was on the news that for the first time ever, the Jews are so certain that the new temple will be built and have actually made their special robes and were fitted for them as well!
Now this is something to talk about!
factsonly(sometimes)
Your name gives you a hint of credibility...
but your posts take it all away... its sad ...
the end
-skotty
oK SO ..
where did every1 go?
lol
For the very first time as a Member of the Apostolic Assembly, I am ashamed to be one. As I look back in retrospect and begin reflect over what has transpired over the course of Two Years, I have come to a conclusion, I am disgusted by the men who hunger for power. Men of so called Honor, Men who consider themselves to be anointed of God but rather show themselves to be appointed by MAN. Their actions in handling the situation that arose after a decision being contested, are unacceptable in any realm, being Spiritual and/or Secular. Their actions in dismissing Apostolic Patriarchs from their Pastorship shows how reckless they truly are, having no consideration and compassion for the membership of the church or shall I say the body of Christ? What bothers me the most, is the attempt of silencing the Layman, specifically the young people. Be forewarn Apostolic Assembly that there is a generation who really loves Lord and who is not afraid to challenge the state of Normalcy, to challenge the Status Quo and to change the atmosphere. If you listen closely you can hear a cry from a young generation, who mind you, are not oblivious to what has occurred. This generation stands for honesty, truth and most importantly Love. If you watch, you can see how we love the Lord of the work, not the work of the Lord. As I write, I am reminded of the Spiritual Climate of Jerusalem as the Messiah was about to Manifest himself unto Humanity. The positions of Man, the Pharisees and the Sagisees, the who's, who, of Jewish Culture - oh how they knew it all. Knew so much that they crucified him with not even knowing that he was in the midst. What then shall we take from this? That the brethren are not able to forgive and live united thru the bond of peace? That Pride and the ability to admit that wrong doing occurred is far greater than Humility and Repentance? Or shall we take that Men of Position who hunger for power will play GOD by all means necessary!
Jay
I hear you bro!!!!
Hey where are the circus animals?
Scotty
Check your email
i got it...
so... N E MORE FACTS?
Skotty said...
where did every1 go?
Skotty, I'd like for you to notice how little by little you "revolution" is losing steam. You can see this yourself by how many posts there are every day.
If you look closely, you'll see that the number is shrinking...and guess what?? that means that you your 10 minutes of fame are slowly, slowly coming to close.
So again...you have:
No Power
No Authority
No Credibility
No Real Support
No Following - just all the different screen names you can sign in as.
No Nothing...
just fading and fading...
and you never answered my question about all the other 20 pastors that were supposed to be axed?? What happened??
So as this blog slowly dies down, I'd like to remind you all that in 2 more yrs, there will be another election and I think that the GB's have learned a hard lesson this time, and in 2010 you are going to see the most "by the book" election you have ever seen.
R4jisdumb
Wow dude get a life seriously! Did you ever think it may be because people don't wanna read pointless post like yours!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
R4Jisdumb/factsonly1/sam(remember him cbg??) lol said the following
"So as this blog slowly dies down, I'd like to remind you all that in 2 more yrs, there will be another election and I think that the GB's have learned a hard lesson this time, and in 2010 you are going to see the most "by the book" election you have ever seen."
If thats The Case... and IF r4j is to die down, Then in 2010 The "Godly Boys" Will Look Back, And remember R4J and hope that we never RISE again, and our mission of a "BY THE BOOK" NON corrupt gb WILL HAVE BEEN REACHED ... thats only IF we die down...
BUT as for right now... all i can say is...
WHO ELSE IS READY FOR CONVENTION 2008!!!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!!?!?!
-SKOTTY
God is Just:
You said:
"Did you know that the Jews are getting ready for their messiah's coming? (Which is the second coming of Christ for Christians) It was on the news that for the first time ever, the Jews are so certain that the new temple will be built and have actually made their special robes and were fitted for them as well!"
Response: Wow! Where can I read about this?
How about Bro Tito this weekend? Dude, I am so excited! What I love about Brother Tito is that he has so much love for the souls. He's all about the love of God and salvation! Such a simple, humble man. I wish I could be more like him. Anyway, I can't wait for this revival. I gotta invite SOMEBODY!
God Bless You.
P.S. Remember to pray for Brother Carlos Ceniceros, Jr.
Jay,
Your comments regarding the attitudes of Gen-Y are insightful. The Lord is coming soon. Read the post from God is Just to Snoopyd. I hope God is Just can give me the information I need to read up on that.
As far as the action the GB took on Brother Baldemar and others, it's what any corporation (AA IS a corporation) would be obligated to do in light of the lawsuit and the appeal that was filed just last week.
"Firing" Brother Baldemar was done in order to maintain the integrity of the trial/appeal. If He wouldn't have been removed, he would have had to resign from the AA on his own in order to maintain the integrity of the proceedings.
God Bless You.
SNOOP SAID
"As far as the action the GB took on Brother Baldemar and others, it's what any corporation (AA IS a corporation) would be obligated to do in light of the lawsuit and the appeal that was filed just last week."
If THEY are A Corporation and Not An Organization ... shouldnt they pay taxes on EVERYTHING?
Henry and ALL R4J:
I wouldn't want to meet with a guy who goes by El Cucuy.
But there is no reason why we cannot use this blog to plan effectively for change.
I would like to begin by asking one question:
Is our goal to divide the AA, encourage independent secessions, ask the current GB to step down, or appeal to the pastors to amend the constitution?
We need to focus, Brothers and Sisters!
Please, IGNORE FACTS ONLY 1! If you read his posts, you will find that he has one obvious goal: To distract us from our mission. If you must read his posts, fine, but don't waste your time, energy, and creativity engaging with him. Just say, "Get thee behind me, Facts Only 1" and focus your eyes on the mission. DON'T ARGUE OR DEBATE WITH FACTS ONLY 1! It's a complete waste of time!
LET'S GET BACK ON TRACK!
Please, let us articulate our goal first. Once we do that, we can move on to praying to God for guidance so that we can formulate some kind of plan of action to achieve our goal.
Snoop said:
"Is our goal to divide the AA, encourage independent secessions, ask the current GB to step down, or appeal to the pastors to amend the constitution?"
TEAM "Godly Boys" Divided the church...
Our goals are:
DEMAND THAT THE "Godly Boys" STEP DOWN IMMEDIATELY!
OPEN THE EYES OF ALL WHO IGNORE WHAT IS GOING ON AROUND THEM
GIVE PASTORS A VOICE!
SHOW THE AA MINISTRY THAT THE CONSTITUTION DOES NEED TO BE AMENDED!
And
EXPOSE THE 2006 VOTING SCANDAL...
-SKOTTY
Snoop...
I AGREE!
BOYCOTT FACTSONLY1 !!!
Skotty:
You said,
"...in 2010 The "Godly Boys" Will Look Back, And remember R4J and hope that we never RISE again, and our mission of a "BY THE BOOK" NON corrupt gb WILL HAVE BEEN REACHED..."
I'm glad to see that you have articulated your mission, and I think it is a noble one. Although I don't necessarily find your methods appealing, one cannot deny that they are effective. Better you than me.
Have you ever listened to Glenn Beck? He calls himself a sick, twisted freak for no other reason than that he speaks against the status quo. So from now on, I will call address you as, "You sick, twisted freak" as a term on endearment. It's not a bad thing.
Anyway, yes, the AA is a not-for-profit organization (as opposed to non-profit) and is obligated to pay taxes on everything that not-for-profit organizations are supposed to, such as payroll, and a few other things. I am not a corporate lawyer, but I did work for a not-for-profit a few years back, so I know a little bit about that.
But, no, they do not have to pay taxes on EVERYTHING, because they are a not for profit corporation.
It's tax code.
God Bless You, You Sick Twisted Freak!
Snoopyd
Here is the link to that news article:
http://www.israeltoday.co.il/default.aspx?tabid=178&nid=16549
Although we agree on much, we do not agree on the BR issue. Don't you think this "business" by the GB can be applied as the "whistleblowers act"?
Skotty:
You said,
Our goals are:
1. DEMAND THAT THE "Godly Boys" STEP DOWN IMMEDIATELY! (Lofty, but okay, How?)
2. OPEN THE EYES OF ALL WHO IGNORE WHAT IS GOING ON AROUND THEM (Ongoing, thanks to Brother Leybas and this blog.)
3. GIVE PASTORS A VOICE! (Perhaps by teaching them to Blog? It's a great way to usher them into the 21st century, pobrecitos)
4. SHOW THE AA MINISTRY THAT THE CONSTITUTION DOES NEED TO BE AMENDED! (Many Pastors, Elders, and Bishops are already having serious conversations about this. Perhaps we could have their input on this blog.
5. EXPOSE THE 2006 VOTING SCANDAL... (Done, very painfully, thanks to Skotty and R4J).
Okay, so that leaves us two goals that require a plan of action:
1. DEMAND THAT THE "Mesa Directiva" STEP DOWN IMMEDIATELY.
2. GIVE PASTORS A VOICE.
This is exciting! Now we can remind our critics that this blog is not a total waste of time. We have accomplished 60% of our goals, and we can name them:
We have:
1. OPENED THE EYES OF ALL WHO IGNORE WHAT IS GOING ON AROUND THEM IN THE AA.
2. SHOWN THE AA MINISTRY THAT THE CONSTITUTION DOES NEED TO BE AMENDED
3. EXPOSED THE 2006 VOTING SCANDAL
With only two left, we can focus our energy on the two realistic goals.
I think if we begin with GIVING PASTORS A VOICE, we will be able to move on to the lofty goal of demanding that the GB either give us a new election before 2010, and reinstate the pastors who were "not excommunicated," or kindly resign.
So, You Sick, Twisted Freak, how are we going to give our pastors a voice?
God Bless You
God is Just:
Thanks for the link.
You'll have to enlighten me on the "whistleblower's act."
God Bless You
VIDEOS, TELEVISION, NEWSPAPERS, RADIO SHOWS...
PODCASTS...WILL SOON COME...
To all Rev. 4 Injustice,
Well I see that I made my presence felt in this blog. I see that I'm a concern to you. Well, that makes me feel good.
Don't worry whether I'm engaged or not, I will keep posting and exposing your lies. Decent people in this blog will get the point, that's my goal.
By the way, that's a good name for Scotty a sick twisted mind. To go with his sick twisted demonic voice and his sick twisted demonic mask.
And to your friend what a sick twisted diabolical mind to want to have as a goal to dive the church. And then he wants to pray to God for direction. lol
You have no power, no authority, no righteous goal.
Snoopyd
To help you understand completely I have copied some information from Wikipedia and will type the link so that you can further your knowledge on the information.
(Wikipedia, 2008) A whistleblower is an employee, former employee, or member of an organization, especially a business or government agency, who reports misconduct to people or entities that have the power and presumed willingness to take corrective action. The misconduct may be a violation of a law, rule, regulation and/or a direct threat to public interest, such as fraud, health/safety violations, and corruption.
Here is the link so you can read up on the Whistleblowers Act:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whistleblower_Protection_Act
GBY
Goodnite Everyone! God Be With You All!
To all Rev. 4 Injustice,
Well I see that I made my presence felt in this blog. I see that I'm a concern to you. Well that makes me feel good.
Don't worry whether I'm engaged or not, I will keep posting and exposing your lies. Decent people in this blog will get the point, that's my goal.
By the way, that's a good name for Scotty a sick twisted mind. To go with his sick twisted demonic voice and his sick twisted demonic mask.
And to your friend what a sick twisted diabolical mind to want to have as a goal to divide the church. And then he wants to pray to God for direction. lol
You have no power, no authority, no righteous goal.
i GUESS WE ARE
REVOLUTIONARIES 4 INJUSTICE
I MEAN CUZ INJUSTICE MEANS
"violation of right or of the rights of another"
SO WE ARE REVOLUTIONAIRES FOR THE VIOLATION OF RIGHT/the rights of another...
CUZ WHAT THE gb DID ISNT RIGHT...
SO WE ARE SEEKING A REVOLUTION AGAINST WHAT WAS WRONG SO IN TURN WE ARE REV. 4 INJUSTICE...
THANKS DUDE! YOU ARE HELPING US OUT ALOT!
Interesting concept skotty and snoopy have been throwing around.
Giving Pastors a voice. Or better said, giving pastors their voices BACK. Their voices were taken from them with Martin Del Campo's uneducated definitions of the words Capacity, Suitability, and Rights. (CID).
Ok, ok. I'll leave the CID out in this post.
I have a question for all you fearless bloggers:
Has anyone asked their pastor what his position is in this controversy?
I have had a few conversations with a few AA pastors and ministers and the answer is pretty consistent. i am curious if anyone else has heard this same response...
anyone?
2 b honest... i would really like to know where indio stands...because they are more then just a "swing vote" in this whole thing...
GIJ,SNOOP...
WHERE DOES INDIO STAND?
NEUTRAL?
To Scotty:
You forgot not to engage me.
You are right, you're a Rev 4 injustice not a Rev of Injustice.
You are sick twisted freak. No offense just following your buddy's protocol.
Ok Im off to sleep..
cuz this is about the time where the misleading sign on and speak no truths or facts...
*Cough* like the DUDE ABOVE ME *COUGH*
-SKOTTY
Factsonly1,
I'm not trying to shake the beehive here but have a question our of sheer curiosity...
How do you have time to be here 24/7?
Btw, I am reading back and I don't see you exposing anyone's "lies."
I pretty much just read one sided petty arguments. (and they are suspiciously biased as well, hmmmm...) Not to mention the judgments and insults you've hurled at your fellow bloggers.
Your behavior is more that of a pharisee than that of a disciple. I wonder what God thinks of you right now?
Also, I think what discredits you the most (besides your petty playground antics that everyone sees through) is your fear of identifying yourself. Would you call someone like that cowardly? Jesus never hid behind anonymity, nor did the disciples. So why do you?
tsk, tsk, tsk.
tiras la piedra y escondes la mano.
Maybe you learned it from you hypocrite father/pastor? or was it from the money hungry thugs you blindly defend?
To conclude, you keep saying we are defeated; tell me young brother, what do you base this on? Are we defeated because YOU say so?
Wouldn't GOD be the one to make that decision?
Well, to show you just how defeated we really are, why don't you pay us a visit?
San Bernardino Valley College
701 S Mount Vernon Ave.
San Bernardino, CA 92410
Sundays at 2 PM
You are more than welcome.
Well fearless bloggers, I'm off on a fearless mission....
TO GET SOME SLEEP! :)
GBU
Carlos, and Skotty, and anyone else who is interested in knowing where pastors and churches stand.
Before I tell you where Indio stands, you should know that many members of the leadership in our church have been members of the AA all of our lives, and we love the AA, just as much as you do.
I owe much of my lifelong friendships and spiritual development to the work of the AA, such as camps, conventions, etc.
That said, Indio does not stand neutral. Indio is a member church of the Apostolic Assembly of the Faith in Christ Jesus, and that is where we stand. We stand with the Assembly.
That said, that does not mean that we are pleased with the actions of the Governing Board.
We are hurt with everything that we are talking about. We are well aware that amendments need to to be made to the constitution, but we love the AA too much to throw the baby out with the bathwater.
In Indio, we fix what's broken. We don't throw it away. I know that drives some people crazy, because in Indio, the wheels turn very slowly, as all enormous wheels do. In Indio, we have historically allowed the evolution of the living church to occur, as opposed to creating revolution. It is not a spoken rule or philosophy, it's just a fact (we used to be accused of being a church full of backsliders because we helped backsliders return to God).
Evolution: linear progress and adaptation of living organism.
Revolution: a full turn.
Revolt: a rebellion against existing authority.
In Indio, we adapt and change according to the needs, but we never want to end up where we started. That is why I say we don't try to create revolution, because if we act hastily, we could end up right back where we started.
We don't change the doctrine. We don't stop preaching the doctrine. We just have other issues that have to be dealt with gingerly so that we don't pull up the wheat with the tares. We help the NEW CONVERTS to allow God to change their hearts so that they can change SINCERELY, the other things on their own.
How does this apply to the AA? In 2026, We don't want to end up back where we started in 2006. We want to take part in lasting, positive change.
R4J have started something that if dealt with properly can result in lasting positive change. Think about how many pastors are becoming more tech savvy just because of Skotty's work (You Sick Twisted Freak!). Think about how many pastors are going to think and discuss a little more before they vote on items at convention. Think about how much broader the seed of the gospel of salvation in Jesus Name will be spread, now that more of our pastors and ministers realize what an effect You Tube has on this generation.
Like I said a few days back, I can't wait to see how Gen Y is going to govern the AA.
Again, so that nobody thinks I am trying to cloak our stance inside a philosophical birdwalk:
Indio stands with the Apostolic Assembly.
We want to see our beloved Assembly grow and prosper as a result of this issue.
God Bless You, R4J! Keep on keepin' on. As for me, I believe in the mission of R4J.
1. Let's help give our pastors back their voice! Some are doing just fine without us. Others need our help. Let's help those who need our help.
2. Let's help get that block of swiss cheese called the Constitution of the Apostolic Assembly amended.
God Bless You!
God is Just:
Check this out: Totally Disappointing, Dude.
"High Court Trims Whistleblower Rights
By GINA HOLLAND, Associated Press Writer
Tuesday, May 30, 2006
The Supreme Court scaled back protections for government workers who blow the whistle on official misconduct Tuesday, a 5-4 decision in which new Justice Samuel Alito cast the deciding vote.
In a victory for the Bush administration, justices said the 20 million public employees do not have free-speech protections for what they say as part of their jobs.
Critics predicted the impact would be sweeping, from silencing police officers who fear retribution for reporting department corruption, to subduing federal employees who want to reveal problems with government hurricane preparedness or terrorist-related security.
Supporters said that it will protect governments from lawsuits filed by disgruntled workers pretending to be legitimate whistleblowers."
And that's for GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES. Private corporations (including the AA) have even less regulations, and there employees have less rights.
In 2007, somebody wrote the Whistelblowers Act of 2007. President Bush promised to veto it if it gets passed. It's still sitting in limbo right now.
Can you believe it? I can.
God is Always Just. Man isn't always.
God Bless You.
Factsonly1:
Get thee behind the R4J. We have a mission.
To Snoopy:
First you say,
But there is no reason why we cannot use this blog to plan effectively for change.
I would like to begin by asking one question:
Is our goal to divide the AA
Then you say,
We want to see our beloved Assembly grow and prosper as a result of this issue.
So what's your goal? Divide the AA or have the AA grow and prosper?
You are one sick twisted confused freak.
By the way isn't the pastor from Indio, the one who wrote the pre CID.
Wasn't he being sued also?
Shouldn't you begin by talking to him to evolutionize the AA and CID.
Snoopy of Gen Y, what would the pastor of Indio think if he found out what you been blogging?
fatsonly1,
"Go ahead keep discrediting yourself on this blog. That is my goal to expose all the rev.4injustice for who they really are.
foul mouth rejecters of Jesus.
Repent and be baptized."
It that your comeback? Is that all you have? What a girl! Ooops, sorry don't want to doscredit the girls!!!
"keep discrediting yourself..." Man YOU DID THAT A LONG TIME AGO! If you really look at my bloggs you would have discovered that all I deal with is discredited dumb ..sses like you. But you're so blind you can even see that. Just ask Sam, he'll tell you.
By he way if you want to have adult, mature conversations, then begin with yourself! STOP making such dumb ..ss comments - DUMB ..SS!
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
fatsonly1,
"Go ahead keep discrediting yourself on this blog. That is my goal to expose all the rev.4injustice for who they really are.
foul mouth rejecters of Jesus.
Repent and be baptized."
It that your comeback? Is that all you have? What a girl! Ooops, sorry don't want to doscredit the girls!!!
"keep discrediting yourself..." Man YOU DID THAT A LONG TIME AGO! If you really look at my bloggs you would have discovered that all I deal with is discredited dumb ..sses like you. But you're so blind you can even see that. Just ask Sam, he'll tell you.
By he way if you want to have adult, mature conversations, then begin with yourself! STOP making such dumb ..ss comments - DUMB ..SS!
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
fatsonly1,
"Go ahead keep discrediting yourself on this blog. That is my goal to expose all the rev.4injustice for who they really are.
foul mouth rejecters of Jesus.
Repent and be baptized."
It that your comeback? Is that all you have? What a girl! Ooops, sorry don't want to doscredit the girls!!!
"keep discrediting yourself..." Man YOU DID THAT A LONG TIME AGO! If you really look at my bloggs you would have discovered that all I deal with is discredited dumb ..sses like you. But you're so blind you can even see that. Just ask Sam, he'll tell you.
By he way if you want to have adult, mature conversations, then begin with yourself! STOP making such dumb ..ss comments - DUMB ..SS!
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
fatsonly1,
"Go ahead keep discrediting yourself on this blog. That is my goal to expose all the rev.4injustice for who they really are.
foul mouth rejecters of Jesus.
Repent and be baptized."
It that your comeback? Is that all you have? What a girl! Ooops, sorry don't want to doscredit the girls!!!
"keep discrediting yourself..." Man YOU DID THAT A LONG TIME AGO! If you really look at my bloggs you would have discovered that all I deal with is discredited dumb ..sses like you. But you're so blind you can even see that. Just ask Sam, he'll tell you.
By he way if you want to have adult, mature conversations, then begin with yourself! STOP making such dumb ..ss comments - DUMB ..SS!
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
Latest discovery,
lilkid, idiot apo, r4j is dumb, and factsonly1 all know each other!!! They actually got together and planned to come into this blog to pass inaccurate information!
a couple of the are even related to the dishonorable GB. So don't waste your time they are all a bunch of kiss ..sses.
Latest discovery,
lilkid, idiot apo, r4j is dumb, and factsonly1 all know each other!!! They actually got together and planned to come into this blog to pass inaccurate information!
a couple of the are even related to the dishonorable GB. So don't waste your time they are all a bunch of kiss ..sses.
Latest discovery,
lilkid, idiot apo, r4j is dumb, and factsonly1 all know each other!!! They actually got together and planned to come into this blog to pass inaccurate information!
a couple of the are even related to the dishonorable GB. So don't waste your time they are all a bunch of kiss ..sses.
To: God is Just/ snoopyd. Interesting Info!!! Is this an article or a documentry. I remember watching a documentry about this same subject about 10 years ago. They were talking about how easy it was to build a Temple. They discused the artifacts and furniture for the temple, clothing for the priests, and they even made an invitation to any Jew who could identify himself as part of the tribe of Levi, to go to Jerusalem and learn the role of a Priest! I will check out the link later on. Thanks Again and GBU!!
CBG,
um.... 1st - what are you doing up at 3:30am PT GET A LIFE.
2nd.. i haven't been posting any facts...about the AA, just your dumb treehouse club.
what are you the sergeant at arms?
Carlos,
instead of posting your church times and location to people who either don't care what you do, or people who are too far to go support you..
why don't you post that info up around your neighborhood.
that the problem with many of your churches, the promote and care too much about constantly reaching out to other churches members.
thats why half your churches are always fighting, because you keep trying steal each others people!
haha
To R4J is dumb,
Like, uh "....what are you doing up at 3:30am PT GET A LIFE....i haven't been posting any facts...about the AA, just your dumb treehouse club. what are you the sergeant at arms?"
Like, you totally told me off. Like you're so smart and like How did you know I had a treehouse club."
Dumb ..ss!!!
well normally, treehouse clubs are composed of a bunch of overweight boys that "make believe" that they are going to accomplish something big.
but usually when the cool kids walk by and seem them all in their stupid "crime fighting" uniforms, the cool kids laugh.
so HAHA, because you have...
no power
no authority
no following
no support
no victories
no future victories
no nothing
just a bunch of smoke...
I mean other that the BR, all the other plaintiffs have gone off into the sunset. so why don't you do the same?
To: factsonly1
You said "It will only give you one more defeat and will be a waste of $$$$$$$ .........
It's NOT a waste of time & $$ just ask D. Zuniga .......
TO: Bloggers who thinks we should not stand against the GB
Dice que seamos Mansos NO MENSOS!!!
R4J is dumb said, "...normally, treehouse clubs are composed of a bunch of overweight boys that "make believe" that they are going to accomplish something big.
but usually when the cool kids walk by and seem them all in their stupid "crime fighting" uniforms, the cool kids laugh. so HAHA..."
Like, R4J is dumb you have like so much...power, authority, following, and support, like victories, and future victories, like I wanna be just like you! Like can you come and represent at my treehouse club? All of us overweight boys want you cool kids to stop laughing at us, cause like we wanna be just like you!!!!
WOW!!! I am speechless at the level of intelligence you display. Even when I'm being sarcastic I come across as an adult!
Like, "...usually when the cool kids walk by and seem (???) them all in their stupid "crime fighting" uniforms, the cool kids laugh. so HAHA..."
WHAT A DUMB ..SS! LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL, (breath) LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL!!!!!!!!!!
r4jiscool and im a dumba**
hey dude so that makes you the fat donkey so a fata**lol
The 'Notice of Appeal' is posted on www.apostolicassembly.info
It was filed on 7-11-08 in Rancho Cucamonga.
Here's the cheese from the Judge's findings from the original motion (Swiss cheese that is):
The Court makes the following findings with regard to its denial of the Motion to Set Aside the Election Dated November, 2006 and Ordering a New Election:
1) The Court finds it has jurisdiction to consider this matter under Civil Code §9418 inasmuch as resolution of the claim does not require examination of the content of the CID or any other ecclesiastical documents. Nor does it involve interpreting religious doctrine or becoming excessively entangled with religion. Only application of neutral principles of law is required to resolve this dispute
2) Court finds that plaintiffs have satisfied the requirement of exhaustion of administrative remedies under civil Code §941S(a);
3) The court finds there is no evidence of any Constitutional irregularity in the selection of the Qualifying Committee. There is no Constitutional requirement the then Bishop General Secretary be a member of the Qualifying Committee. Nor have the plaintiffs provided any convincing evidence
4) The Court finds plaintiffs' interpretation that the Constitution requires the Qualifying Committee approve as candidates only those nominees who received the highest number of nominations (and who also pass consideration of their capabilities, qualities, and rights) is not supported by the express language of the Constitution;
5) This Court finds that the Constitution requires the Qualifying Committee undertake a two-step process. First, the Qualifying Committee determines which nominees receive the greater number of votes. Once this pool of nominees is identified from among all the nominees, the Qualifying Committee must "consider" the capabilities, qualities, and rights of those nominees who are in the pool. The Constitution is silent as to how the Qualifying Committee is to determine which nominees it considers or how it ultimately determines which nominees in the pool are to be approved as candidates. In particular, there is no constitutional requirement that the Qualifying Committee approve only nominees with the highest number of votes;
6) The Court finds that there is no Constitutional prohibition against members of the Qualifying Committee using the CID or any other document or guideline, in considering the capabilities, qualities and rights of a nominee;
7) The Court finds there has been no constitutional violation by the use of touch pads and computers to tally votes. Touching a computer screen is functionally equivalent to the "writing" required under Article 4, Section XI.
CBG, naw the difference between me you and your boyscouts group, is that I know that I do not have any power...
you SIR, think you do.
so that is what is funniest to everyone here.
you guys are just kicking and screaming, making all this dust...but with no real actions.
the pastors that needed to be removed have been removed...no more will be removed. so now your kinda upset that you have nothing tangible to hold on to anymore.
so I say again, your 10 minutes of fame are closing in on you.
Snoopyd
Although Glenn Beck would be a compliment to Skotty, I do not believe calling him a "sick twisted freak" is appropriate. It's almost as if it would be adding flame to the fire already set by those such as "lilkid, R4Jisdumb, factsonly1" etc...
As we both know, we are from the same church, yet I disagree on your stance as I am sure at times you may disagree with mine. Which only shows the diverse formality within Indio. (A plus, I might add).
What I would like to know is where you stand with Pastor M. I understand your position with the assembly. However, what would you do if the assembly took out Pastor? How would you handle it and what would be your point of view be, where would you go?
You say you're not being neutral yet you mention you support the assembly and don't agree with the actions of the plantiffs.
God Bless
R4J is dumb said...
the pastors that needed to be removed have been removed...no more will be removed.
No more will be removed because Skotty put the fear of God in the DGB. Maybe they finally realize if they remove too many pastors they'll run out of tithe of tithes $$$
"AA DEVILS rule because we let them"
Abel Artie
Daniel Eddie Victor Ismael Leobardo Sam
AA DEVILS do it with your blessings
R4J is dumb said, "CBG, naw the difference between me you and your boyscouts group, is that I know that I do not have any power...you SIR, think you do. so that is what is funniest to everyone here..."
LIKE OH NO!!! EVERYBODY HERE IS LAUGHING AT THE FAT BOY IN THE TREEHOUSE CLUB! LIKE, WHAT KIND OF A CRUEL WORLD WE LIVE IN! LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL!!!
"so I say again, your 10 minutes of fame are closing in on you." LIKE I WAS CHEATED AGAIN BY THE DISHONORABLE GB. I payed for 15 minutes of fame! OMG, OMG, Like R4J is dumb you're so profound and like deep in the things you say! OMG!
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL (ha ha ha ha), I'm having so much fun this morning, LOL LOL LOL - dumb ..ss!!
twovote
I couldn't agree with your statement more! R4J has obviously completed a goal, turned something completely around. The GB no longer will abide by their list of lynching after the world was able to view their actions.
Even after the 7 lynchings, the GB stated in the press release that they only lynched 4. How can the GB explain the lie in that?
Just be certain that in the elections 2010 no one from this gb will be reelected!!!!!!!!!!!!
phantom - errr i mean Prizilla...
1st - why do you go by phantom and then have hame visible. Well your age of 19 kinda explains that..
2nd - you and your father on the same blog?? thats a little weird.
3rd - shouldn't you be doing 19yr old stuff...like boys, toys, clothes.
not worrying about the "organization".
sorry, but you are worrying about way to many Macro things, you need to be Micro, enjoy your youth Prisilla.
R4J is dumb said...
phantom - errr i mean Prizilla...
shouldn't you be doing 19yr old stuff...like boys, toys, clothes.
I think this shows how your name is more appropriate for yourself. You are like many - underestimating the next generation.
Phantom is trying to make sure there is still a viable church as the Chosen Generation comes of age. They plan to lead by following God's direction. unlike the present group. The anchor of a relay race can't lead the team to victory if the earlier runner is disqualified. Right now, with integrity at an all time low, the organization is barely hanging on.
N e Body else THINK we should DEMAND an Election For 2008??
I mean with everything that they have done in 2 years...
DOES NE BODY TRULY BELIEVE THEY SHOULD REMAIN TOGETHER FOR 2 MORE?
fedupwithdeceipt,
considering that a generation consists of about ~7yrs...
and considering that to have "organizational influence" you need to be at the very least in your mid 40's, and considering Phantom is only 19 and assuming that she does faulter like many in her "generation", she is still about 4-5 generations behind.
Though your comments are kinda true, you must admit that the generation that is leading our org is the "baby boomers". My generation is "Gen X" meaning that I'm in my mid-30's. I am having an impact on my local church, but "Organizationally" I am far away from influence.
WOW!!! A person in his mid-30's came up with the blog name "R4J is dumb" How original and (what's the word), ha yes MATURE for a 35 year old to come up with that!
By any chance "R4J is dumb" is your last name Sanchez? Please do tell!
Skotty Will Show You,
No even I do not believe that all 8 should remain.
My opinion is that there should be 3 (maybe 4) not return.
I will not share with you openly which 3-4 I think should not return, as I do believe that will profit anything. I do think that there are 4-5 that are great for their position...
Consider that Bishop Mafey who is serving as (CFO) was a former IRS auditor..thats not bad
Consider that Bishop Espinosa who is serving as overseer of foreign missions, he himself was a missionary and his family (son-in-law) is well equipped to assist him
Conder that Bishop Aguilar who is serving as Home Missions - what better inspirational motivator do you have to motivate young pastors out on the home front?
Skotty, thought you intentions are sort Malcom X-ish...i guess you should be more like Dr. MLK Jr.
and that is where I have issue with you.
R4Jis cool and youre a dumb A**
First the only one that should be playing with toys is you!!!!!!
this gb is unfair and you know it!!!!!!!!!
Im concerned because those dudes lied to a lot of god fearing people and thats not cool!!!!!!!!
My info is on my profile cause I have nothing to be ashamed of!!!!!!!!!
And hey stupid he is not my father he is my bro he is 28 years old and im 19!!! NIce one genius!!!!!!!!!
Oh by the way I was classically trained in music for a few years I love musicals and my favorite is Phantom of the Opera thats why genius!!!!!!!!
WOW YOU ARE DUMB!!!!!!!
DON'T TRY TO BRING ME DOWN YOU CAN'T!!!!!!!!!!!
CBG said...
WOW!!! A person in his mid-30's came up with the blog name "R4J is dumb" How original and (what's the word), ha yes MATURE for a 35 year old to come up with that!
I thought it'd be a funny name, and I wanted a reaction...and i go it, thank you very much :)
By any chance "R4J is dumb" is your last name Sanchez? Please do tell!
No I am not - what is your name?
HEY FATA**
Go run some laps your metabolism is not working like it used to lol
The only one playing with boys is you!!!!!!!!!
Do I hear a MICHAEL JACKSON!!!!! IM SORRY YOURE DUMB DUDE!!!!
AND YES YOU ARE RIHGT I SHOULDN'T BE PLAYING WITH BOYS CAUSE I NEED MEN IN MY LIFE (SO ILL FOR SURE STOP PLAYING YOU)
Can all of you imagine a man in his mid-30's saying in public, "you are a dumb little girl, and you should be playing with dolls, not boys." WOW!!! R4J is dumb, you might be 35 but you express yourself like a 14 year old!
Like, uh do you understand what I'm saying dude. Totally!
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL - Dumb ..ss!!
lol thats funny!!!!!
Where did the little boy I was playing go????????
phantom,
considering that your 19 and Aposotlic, and living in LA, I think that I can make some generalizations about you and boys already....
phantom,
and since I have multiple connections in your area (and considering that your immature enough to put your real name on here), it wouldn't take much to expose you (considering the way that boys tell all now-a-days)....so watch your mouth....
Dumb DUmb thats your new name fits better
Im so scared!!!!!!!!!!!
I wont watch my mouth!!!!!!!! Im speaking to a donkey I wont have to!!!!
why would a 30-something year old want to talk about a 19 year old!? hahaha... i thought only YOUTH would go ask their resources for info on someone else.. HAHAHA... SHOWS HOW IMMATURE HE IS!!!!!! lol
OMG
what are they gonna do take my church away!!!!!!!!!
No maybe my dolls!!!!!
OH wait are they gonna shank me!!!!
Maybe you're too old for him?
R4J is dumb does not want to give out his real name, because the conditions of his parole forbid him to interact with anyone under 16 years of age.
Phantom, the only reason he is taunting you, is because the monitor on his ankle doesn't allow him to leave the house undetected
Hey R4J is dumb, since you don't want to be president of my fat boys treehouse club cause, like you're so cool! Maybe, like, you can be the president of the FLOR AZULES!
That more UP your alley. Get it! Up your alley! Dumb ..ss!!
Twovote,
hahaha nice =) It could be true!! lol
Twovote
Yea I agree!!!! You hit the stop!!!
'sa matter R4J is dumb Megan's law got your tongue?
Maybe we can locate you on the internet. There's a site just for people like you
I think R4J went looking for locks, BIKE LOCKS! He wants to change the lock on Phantom's bike. He's a little wannabe gb.
why would he say his real age?
lol
Wow this is deep and insightful information. Great blog, the AA's future is in great hands. This blog is truly the Lords work...
Just killing time, waiting for somethin' to happen so we can comment. I mean really you don't expect anything to get resolved here on this blog.
I've been a member of the AA for 12yrs and ran across this blog last week when I was trying to get some information of what was going on in the Assembly. I live in the TX area & I, personally, don't get informed of what's going on in National offices, but I had heard a tidbit of what was happening to our Bros in Christ who have been serving the Lord & their prospective Churches for many years. I do think this is unfair. All I can say is this blog has kept me updated...Thank You Guys for the great job. It's all in God's hands, but of course we have to do our part also, so I understand where you are coming from.
However, I think we should do it without badgering each other.
The people who don't like what these guys are doing, maybe you should just keep off this blog & say a prayer for them. If God has put this in their hearts to do something about it, let them.
God Bless!
I've been a member of the AA for 12yrs and ran across this blog last week when I was trying to get some information of what was going on in the Assembly. I live in the TX area & I, personally, don't get informed of what's going on in National offices, but I had heard a tidbit of what was happening to our Bros in Christ who have been serving the Lord & their prospective Churches for many years. I do think this is unfair. All I can say is this blog has kept me updated...Thank You Guys for the great job. It's all in God's hands, but of course we have to do our part also, so I understand where you are coming from.
However, I think we should do it without badgering each other.
The people who don't like what these guys are doing, maybe you should just keep off this blog & say a prayer for them. If God has put this in their hearts to do something about it, let them.
God Bless!
gb5online
Aren't you GB4 now?
Can you say Sing Sing?
I shutter at the thought.
"AA DEVILS rule because we let them"
Abel Artie
Daniel Eddie Victor Ismael Leobardo Sam
AA DEVILS do it and deny it
To gb5online,
Which one of the gb5 are you? Or does gb5 stand for (general board 5)? Please do tell.
To Crossroads: Bro.You cant be serious. All people do on this blog is bash each other. Its the norm!!! Maybe at one time it was informitive but now its a joke!! Its for entertainment. like one person stated " it is a place to vent, nothing more nothing less"!
gb5online said...
Sorry, but I have to get my new i-phone. Bye.
Buy
Gotta spend those ill gotten gains before the law catches up to him. Hmmm maybe a General Board member after all
Don't be jelous cause I have the latest in phone fashion.
Its time to give up your 1992 mega phone that looks like a brick.
Same thing goes for your radio shack flip phones from 1998.
gb5online said...
I can't believe what a bynch of haters you are. You all need to let go and let god. Seriously you need to give up all the hate.
July 15, 2008 3:22 PM
Then....
gb5online said...
Don't be jelous cause I have the latest in phone fashion.
Its time to give up your 1992 mega phone that looks like a brick.
Same thing goes for your radio shack flip phones from 1998.
July 15, 2008 3:56 PM
HAHAHA NICE WAY TO GIVE UP THE HATE BRO...
EAT YOUR WORDS
gb5online
If this is gb5, it is unfortunate, and thats all I can say about that.
However, If this is someone acting as gb5, this is a great thing for gb5! It's called defamation of character. Gb5 could actual gain a lawsuit here and collect monies to repay those in the other lawsuit.
Just an FYI:
"In law, defamation (also called vilification, slander, and libel) is the communication of a statement that makes a false claim, expressively stated or implied to be factual, that may give an individual, business, product, group, government or nation a negative image. Slander refers to a malicious, false, and defamatory statement or report, while libel refers to any other form of communication such as written words or images. Most jurisdictions allow legal actions, civil and/or criminal, to deter various kinds of defamation and retaliate against groundless criticism. Related to defamation is public disclosure of private facts which arises where one person reveals information which is not of public concern, and the release of which would offend a reasonable person.[1] "Unlike libel or slander, truth is not a defence for invasion of privacy."
Thats right, tell these haters not to be saying anything bad. We cannot be mockified because mockifying anyone in hate is a sin and sin is punshisble in court.
Keep on hating, you will only be paying for my trips to that gap, next years i-phone, Abercrombie & Fitch.
gb5online
I'm talking to you! I really think gb5 has other things to take care of then to be on this blog.
gb5online
u are nothing more than a lame excuse for a christian. true christians dont worry about clothes or phones. they have one thing on their minds and that is to serve God so stich abercrombie and fitch up your butt cause God doesn't care about that
so i guess u should worry more about trying to get closer with God than with you iphone
factsonly1:
Get thee behind me, facts only1. We're on a mission.
gb5online said...
Thats right, tell these haters not to be saying anything bad. We cannot be mockified because mockifying anyone in hate is a sin and sin is punshisble in court.
Keep on hating, you will only be paying for my trips to that gap, next years i-phone, Abercrombie & Fitch.
July 15, 2008 4:13 PM
Dont Worry R4J.. I HAVE INFORMED The GUTIERREZ BROTHERS... VIA EMAIL FROM BOTH THE R4J EMAIL AND MY OWN EMAIL... I ALSO INCLUDED THE POSTS FROM THIS SO CALLED "GB5ONLINE"
BTW I ALSO SENT THEM MY VIDEOS...
loL
SKOTTY
Godisjust
You go to Indio - what is your position?
And is SnooyD right - referring to the position of the Apostolic Church in Indio?
Skotty
Good work, now that's team work for justice. If this truly is an imposter, Gb5 ought to know about it!
MAN if this guy HURTS their SALES or POPULARITY or N E THING ELSE in NE WAY!!!
DANNNNNGGG ....
LOL
Jay
Yes I go to Indio. My position is not that of Snoopyd's yet we carry decent conversations on this blog. I personally feel bad for BR and his congregation. I am friends of the Rodriguez sisters (Anointed By Christ), so this affects me differently.
If it was my pastor, I would have reacted in the same manner.
Great work! Artists of the world unite! Haters must go!
Godisjust
What about the position of the Church?
HAHA WHAT IMPERSONATING 1 CELEBRITY WASNT ENOUGH??
That was fast, gb5online turned Clayaiken in 2 seconds!
Jay
I'm not a minister or leader so I have not been informed of anything. I am just speaking from my personal observation.
I WANNA change my dISPLAY NAME TOO!!
i think i like the name F.LUGO...
hahahaha
LUGO QUIT PLAYING ON HERE!
hahahahahahhaa
This has to be a hater free zone. Tootles. Got to get back to K-Fed and my baby.
ClayAiken?!?!?
At least that proves the Flor Azul part!
Take a good look at the picture. That's what he thinks of all this!
Hey gb5online, I'm having milk and cookies. Then I'm reading bedtime stories. Wanna come over?
Godisjust
So how would SnoopyD know the position of HIS church. has Pastor Montes address the issue?
LADIES AND Gentlemen...
I would LIKE TO ANNOUNCE
THAT SPITEFUL, HATEFUL,ILL-SPIRITED PEOPLE
ARE OFFICIALLY RUINING THE REPUTATION OF THE AA
AND THE "GB"
WAY TOO GO...
CONGRATS, AND R4J DIDNT EVEN HAVE TO DO N E THING.. CONSIDERING IT ALL COMES FROM INSIDE THE AA...
"HORRAY!"
P.S. DONT WORRY ... KEEP POSTING ON THIS BLOG... IT IS STILL INFORMATIVE...
THOSE PEOPLE THAT CAN'T HANDLE THE VIDEOS OR THE COMMENTS FROM R4J AND ITS SUPPORTERS
ARE SHOWING THEIR TRUE SPIRITS LIKE THE "Godly Boys" did that Dreadful Night!
so I WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE LIKE FACTS,R4JISDUMB,GB5ONLINE,CLAYAIKEN,AND BSFANCLUB.
TO KEEP POSTING ON HERE SO
PEOPLE CAN SEE WHO REPRESENTS THE AA ON HERE...
NOTHING BUT ILL-SPIRITED PEOPLE...
THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HELP! ;)
-skotty
God is just:
You asked:
"What I would like to know is where you stand with Pastor M."
Response:
I stand behind my pastor 100%
You asked:
"However, what would you do if the assembly took out Pastor?"
Response: The first thing I'd do is ask pastor what he plans to do. I am about 99% sure of what he'd do, and it wouldn't be to go independent. Then after careful thought and counsel from my pastors and family, I'd take it from there.
You asked:
"How would you handle it?"
Response:
I'd handle it much like I am handling it now in regards to Baldemar. Quietly, discreetly and activley. The truth is, the blogging is more of a personal thing for me. I am quietly doing other things that I won't share with anyone else.
You asked:
What would be your point of view be?
Response:
My point of view would be from the perspective of the church whose pastor has just been removed. I'd be really upset. I wouldn't let anyone know though. "A foolish man speaks all his mind, but a wise man keepeth it in until afterwards." After I calmed down, I'd do my research and go from there.
You asked:
"Where would you go?"
I'd go with the team. We have a winning team. We have learned a great deal from Pastor Montes. Wherever the team goes, I go.
You said:
"You say you're not being neutral"
Actually, I said the church of Indio is not neutral.
You said:
"You mention you support the assembly and don't agree with the actions of the plantiffs."
Actually, I said we support the assembly, but we are not necessarily happy about what the GB did.
I'll get back to you later. I have to run. Get back to you when I get back.
God Bless You.
LADIES AND Gentlemen...
I would LIKE TO ANNOUNCE
THAT SPITEFUL, HATEFUL,ILL-SPIRITED PEOPLE
ARE OFFICIALLY RUINING THE REPUTATION OF THE AA
AND THE "GB"
WAY TOO GO...
CONGRATS, AND R4J DIDNT EVEN HAVE TO DO N E THING.. CONSIDERING IT ALL COMES FROM INSIDE THE AA...
"HORRAY!"
P.S. DONT WORRY ... KEEP POSTING ON THIS BLOG... IT IS STILL INFORMATIVE...
THOSE PEOPLE THAT CAN'T HANDLE THE VIDEOS OR THE COMMENTS FROM R4J AND ITS SUPPORTERS
ARE SHOWING THEIR TRUE SPIRITS LIKE THE "Godly Boys" did that Dreadful Night!
so I WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE LIKE FACTS,R4JISDUMB,GB5ONLINE,CLAYAIKEN,AND BSFANCLUB.
TO KEEP POSTING ON HERE SO
PEOPLE CAN SEE WHO REPRESENTS THE AA ON HERE...
NOTHING BUT ILL-SPIRITED PEOPLE...
THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HELP! ;)
-skotty
I have cookies and warm milk for
r4jisdumb.
Come out and play r4jisdumb. Come out, come out where ever you are.
snoopyd said...
"I'd handle it much like I am handling it now in regards to Baldemar. Quietly, discreetly and activley. The truth is, the blogging is more of a personal thing for me. I am quietly doing other things that I won't share with anyone else."
Are you THE webmaster?
Hi!
Im Mr Lugo
I wanna be your friend
=)
Hola muchachos, Bueno mi gallo al parecer se esta enfrentando a la realidad.voten por Baldemar Rodriguez para formar la otra organisacion..
Baldemar.
Guillermo Mendoza.
Abel Torrez.
Saul Avila.
Salvador Rodarte.
Salvador Villegas.
Solomon.
Algien me puedede decir Quien fue o es Vizcarra ?.
Saludos Muchachos y Que Viva Mexico.
Att EL PESTAYO
hey CMON!!!!
whats with all the milk and cookies!!
Scotty, you said you were going to give me some :(
hey give some to phantom, she could use some more. (that little fatty)
Phantom - Priscilla Gallegos
i did not respond to you earlier, because adults (unlike kids) have to work.
But now I will - fastso, i and I know who you are!!!!!
oh and people lets not be as rough on the GB5 group, ok? Let all give them a break (err...bail?)
Jay,
I know the church of Indio's position because I did what I have been encouraging all of our fellow bloggers to do. I spoke with my pastors. It was very uncomfortable, but it was time and energy well-spent.
I encourage you to speak with your pastors too.
Only our pastors can amend the constitution. If we are going to help bring about lasting change, we must be patient.
We can make a difference by speaking with our pastors. I found they were just as eager to speak about it as I was.
Headline News
Tuesday, July 08, 2008 Israel Today Staff
Jewish priests fitted for service in future Jerusalem Temple
Confident that Israel's Temple to the Almighty will be rebuilt atop Jerusalem's Temple Mount in the very near future, the Temple Institute this month began fitting Jews from the biblical priestly tribe for their holy garments.
The Bible describes a very specific set of garments to be warn by members of the priestly tribe when they are serving in the Temple. This month's fitting was the first time since the destruction of the Second Temple over 2,000 years ago that potential Jewish priests had been measured for such garments.
Following the fitting, each potential future priest was presented with a set of garments matching the biblical description. When the Temple is rebuilt, a fresh set of garments will need to be made for each priest, as they can only be used in the Temple.
The Temple Institute has for decades been involved in preparing the various garments, instruments and other items needed to dedicate what is known as the Third Temple. Most Jews and Christians believe the Third Temple will be built atop the Temple Mount - today occupied by Islamic mosques - prior the coming of Messiah and the establishment of his direct reign over the earth.
YES, we are in the endtimes!!
Jay,
If you read back far enough, you will find that R4J are not against the AA as a whole. They are simply adamantly opposed to the actions of the GB
The Goals of R4J are;
1. DEMAND THAT THE Governing Board STEP DOWN IMMEDIATELY!
2. OPEN THE EYES OF ALL WHO IGNORE WHAT IS GOING ON AROUND THEM (This goal has been achieved and is ongoing, thanks to Brother Leybas and this blog.)
3. GIVE PASTORS A VOICE! (Perhaps by teaching them to Blog? It's a great way to usher them into the 21st century)
4. SHOW THE AA MINISTRY THAT THE CONSTITUTION DOES NEED TO BE AMENDED! (Because of the exposure this issue is getting via this website, many Pastors, Elders, and Bishops are already having serious conversations about this. Perhaps we could have their input on this blog.)
5. EXPOSE THE 2006 VOTING SCANDAL... (Done, very painfully, thanks to Skotty and R4J).
R4J has accomplished 60% of their goals, and we are working on the two goals that require a plan of action:
1. DEMAND THAT THE "Mesa Directiva" STEP DOWN IMMEDIATELY.
2. GIVE PASTORS A VOICE.
I am not sure the GB will step down in this term, but I am sure that the more we speak openly with our pastors, the better chance we have of taking part in positive change for the AA.
As you can see, all the R4J want is Justice. It is one of the 3 things that God told Habakkuk he requires of men:
1. to do justly
2. to love mercy
3. to walk humbly with your God.
God Bless You, Jay.
R4J is dumb
said
considering that your 19 and Aposotlic, and living in LA, I think that I can make some generalizations about you and boys already....
So what you are trying to say is that apostolic girls in LA are SLUTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nice one genius!!!!!!
Jay,
Actually, it was Micah, 6:8
"He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?"
God Bless You
Hypocrite,
No, I am not the webmaster.
R4J is cool and Im a DumbA**
said
i did not respond to you earlier, because adults (unlike kids) have to work.
But now I will - fastso, i and I know who you are!!!!!
REALLY YOU WERE WORKING WHAT LOSER ARE YOU WORKING A PART TIME JOB CAUSE I WAS WORKING TOO AND WORKED MORE HOURS THAN YOU!!!!!!!!!!! AND YOU FOR SURE KNOW WHO I AM CAUSE IM SUCH A "FASTSO"!!!
OMG guys amber alert
there is a little boy who has been abducted(milky skin, dark brown hair, green eyes who was last seen with oreo cookies)
OK
R4Jisdumb: dude give him up what is fun to you is cruel to the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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