Wednesday, December 16, 2009

***UPDATE*** RESOLUCION DE PLAN DE ACCION y MAYORDOMIA

***Below you will are the sample closing docs for the Montebello church property....
















Attached is the link to the Plan of Action and Stewardship sent to Apostolic Assembly pastors both in english and espanol.

For your review....
Click here for: RESOLUCION DE PLAN DE ACCION y MAYORDOMIA

Click here for: Montebello Closing Documents
As noted..."The bank charged for the cost of the loan. Then, the AA Inc,(A Non Profit 501c3 Religeous Organization) added its fees. The AA Inc. is neither registered with the Department of Real Estate nor the Department of Corporations, which allows for charging of fees in a loan".


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DISGUSTED said...

Antonio,
Yes you know alot. Excuse me
for confusing you with Nena.
But are you related to the Mesas?
Sorry, but believe me Uan bit
making excuses for Brother
Paublito Carrillo, about "Vino
in his breath. But to us
he was a very dear and dedicated
man who served the Lord, and
was like hundreds of the "men
forgotten" ministers, who were
and "are ignored in the "AA story, but are must surely "written" in the Book of Life!

It is very difficult to "excuse" all the mess Ariel and his brother Hazael have done and now Aguilar,
giving monies and churches to his
"darling" little boys!
Boy...will they pay.

God bless you!

informed said...

A todos los ministros:
Quien le ha dicho a los
de la Mesa Directiva,
que porque la AA gano
el caso de ir a la corte,
mundana de este mundo.
Que ellos los "honorables"
son duenos de la Asamblea?

No es justo que se creen
duenos. Les puedo decir
cienes de hombres, que fueron
mandondes en la AA, que se
les tenia "miedo" porque
tenian el poder de despedir,
a cualquier miembro o Pastor,
que "sabia mucho de ellos".

Les dire a ustdes...que
es mejor que esos hombres,
crueles, obispos, y de la
mesa direcctiva, mejor hubiera
seguido en el mundo perdidos,
sin Dios y sin esperanza,
que de creer, que porque
tienen "controlados a miembros,
pastores, y ministros con
tener el poder de remover a
cual quiera persona que ellos
quieren.

Que Dios les va a perdonar,
por ese pecado de controlar,
y violar la obra de Dios.
Miren lo que estan pagando
los Maffeys con el hermano de
ellos Ricardo. Sergio cree
que es el todo "perfecto",
legalista y cruel con su mujer
Debbie. Leopardo lo controla
la Connnie, que es la mas
chismosa en el E-mail de las
mujeres de la AA.
Todas las que se pintan el cabello, negro como el "tisne",
son unas hiprocritas.
Condenan a las hermanas, y
ellas "con la viga" en le
ojo!!!

Asi es la Francisca que la
va a honrar Sanchez, como
la mas presidenta de dorcas,
distinguida y la que ha
mandado mas dinero de la
flor azul a los saldos
de los "honorables".

Que estupidos, cuando no
fue la Francisca que trabajo
en los trabajos manuales, ni
de "talentos" y de tamales,
ni de "verder platos" de comida.
Solo......enamorar a Sanchez,
y ya la van a coronar como la
dama primera. Y que de eva?
como la van a vestir, ya que
la "acabo" Sanchez. Parecen
sanabolos!!!

Y ustedes mandandoles dinero.!
P.D.
Phillip Saenz, nunca dejara
la AA. El es uno de los favoritos de Sanchez, que al fin ayudo a
"hechar" afuera a Baldemar!

Anonymous said...

What about The GB forcing every Pastor to enforce the tithing of every member or else ?

They must really be hurting for money ! Or their greed is just growing and growing.

But I bet they would never take a pay cut !

No matter how tough the economy gets they have no mercy and keep squeezing the brethren for more more more.

The Pastors and followers who put up with all their mess are also to blame because they allow it. That empowers them.

These wolves only have the power and influence that YOU allow them to have.

Believe me Pastor if you really want to do God's will and be a true leader to your flock you would leave the corrupted A.A.

Pobres los que se dejan !

Unknown said...

Disgusted, you are right on one thing... "I do know a lot". As far as being related to the mesa's...that's funny too! Try again! What I can tell you is you were a former youth leader in the Los Angeles district and have failed miserably in your life and have lost it all. But God can have mercy on you, if you would come back to him and really serve Him. Be constructive in your discussion because you know a lot of history. For example you don't have to lower yourself by stooping to silly talk. Point out the facts as you have done without saying "gallo's", "Tijuaneros", "cholos", etc... You loose credibility. You can say the same thing about the history you know without lowering your standards. You should think about using spell-check because you call people "uneducated" but yet you are very uneducated (don't loose your credibility) I am just trying to help you a little bit here; Disgusted, informed, Thought of the day and all the other sign-on names you use...
BTW, you can check my past posts and can see that...I agree in general with much of what you say, but I have to correct you from time to time(as I have done courteously) because I am also a person of much knowledge of the history of the AA.

DISGUSTED said...

Antonio:
Believe me we are sorry we
offend you when we write
with so so many mistakes.
My computer just flies when
I write, because there are
so many other things to do.

Excuse me...
As far as me calling them "cholos"
tijuaneros, etc., they deserve
that an more that cannot be
said.

Remember we are dealing with
individuals who have left the
fear,(love) for God completely
out...Selfish and ignorant,
that "love" the power of "control"
and evilness!

Sure not everyone from Tijuana
that is a christian and God fearing
should be called "Tijuaneros".
But low class people with no
love for the God nor for Church, nor for
keeping fairness with the brothers and sisters should not be respected!

You are not relative to the Mesaas,but were you not a friend of
Hazael when you both lived here in L.A?

You know alot of history, because
you at one time interviewed
the entire AA. Right?

You left the blogs for a while,
under :"Antonio"?
But when the Mesas issue came
up you came out!
Its true what we wrote!

DISGUSTED said...

Enrique:
Please forgive me for contridicting
you...But not all of the
AA is corrupt!

The corruption comes from the love of money and control and power!

First of all why should we leave
the "AA"?
These cholos de Tijuana work for
"us". We pay them...

They run around the conventions,
as if "they" should be respected.
Why because Sanchez is giving a
Gala banquet to his concubine?
Because Sanchez is being given
a Gala "faked" fair well banquet,
from THE CONCUBINE, FRANCISCA!

Its all "that's the way the monkey
runs, pop goes the weaslel!

We tolerate this because
"WE WILL NOT BE SUPPORTED BY"
Anyone, especially the brown
nosers who are just their 'GO
FORS"
JUST FOR A PIECE OF "BONE"!

Just ask Bishop Gilbert Diaz,
from Bakersfield area and he
will come forth, and tell
you "SANCHEZ WHEN SANCHEZ WAS
A WANNA BE PASTOR IN TUCSON, ARIZONA, NEVER PAID TITHES!

But remember the GB was not
making $10,000.00 per month.
May God rebuke them.NOW!!!!!
ALL THE HONORABLES!!, AS THEY
CALL "THEMSSLEVES".

Unknown said...

LOL you know we are all going to the Convention.....

Con because this GB is the biggest
group of CON-men.

Vent because surely these GB
ConMen will Vent.

Tion ie Shun because they have
shunned Gods people for
their own lust of money,
power and the ability
to Molest children.
Maffey

Anonymous said...

Disgusted,

You said :

First of all why should we leave
the "AA"?
These cholos de Tijuana work for
"us". We pay them...

They work for us ? REALLY ?


You could have fooled me.

Looks to me like The GB barks out all the marching orderes and everyone follows along cause " you cant go against the man of god "

The only Men with true guts stood up and were ousted.

Anonymous said...

My two cents :

I opine that anyone who sees the blatant corruption and cronyism and clear preferential treatment of some while ousting of others.

And chooses to remain in The Assembly loves the organization and feeling of belonging more than anything else.

So many feel that there is no life outside of the assembly.

I assure you there is. And it is actually better.

Free of legalism and controlling little men that used to be a factory worker and now walk around as a king.

Free of never being ordained cause your not of the right name or status.

Free of The Bishop hooking up his green unexperienced son in law with a pastorship instead of the asst pastor who has served faithfully for 20 years.

Free of Women being put down and being made to look like the amish.

No Thank You....Ask yourselves seriously.....Why do you stay ?

Unknown said...

Disgusted, I have corrected you in the past on Llorente and others because I am one of the few who still knows the history.

I am not defending any family as I agree with you on much of what you say.

I come on here to correct you whenever you or anyone says anything wrong about history. I have a responsibility if I know a part of history which someone doesn't know.

I don't know what you are talking about me living in LA...I have visited LA many times. Once again your guessing game is wrong.

I do know that you have failed miserably in your walk with the Lord and are still trying to make a come-back. For that reason I pray for you. Your marriage was destroyed by you and you failed as a leader.

I hope that you and I can correctly state the history of the AA. It needs to be said right for the younger folks in here!

Just keeping you honest.

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DISGUSTED said...

Antonio:(D.R.)
You are absolutely incorrect to
think there any "leaders"
in the AA.
As far as "baiting me" to defend
myself as being married or widower
that is my business, or a "has been
leader".

But as far as you being the
"ultimate" as a Historian, it would
be clearly said that you are
appointed by WHOM? SANCHEZ OF VALVERDE, TO BE THE AA'S HISTORIAN. WHAT A JOKE!

God only determines as how much we have failed Him. NOT YOU.

But for sure I can say you may
think Florazuers "are not offensive to God". HOW DO YOU LIKE THAT?

I know for sure I fail God
every single day of my life.
And I do not need to convince
myself that I have ever left the AA.

There most definately is no
brotherhood with these existing
Board. They only,ARE "sticking"
out all their claws to hold on
to "their power, control and
money."$10,000.00 PER MONTH, PLUS THEIR CHURCH'S SALARIES.

And please don't correct me
in any History issues, there
is such as thing in this country,
"As freedom of speech"!

YOU should make it "your business', to correct all the
"misquoted" issues on World History and Latin American History and USA History.

Especially with the Native americans and the Mexicanos!
That my dear friend SHOULD BE YOUR CONCERN:

WHAT A JOKE YOU ARE!

If you were so "truthful" you
would declare who you are and
not be a hipocrite and "hide"
under the "skirts" of these
blogs!

So see, you are not "that
truthful" yet you think
you are such an "expert" in AA History!

Since you were "Van" in the blogs.
TALKING ABOUT WANTING TO BE A "LEADER" WHY THEY WOULD NOT EVEN
ORDAIN YOU AND THAT WAS "SANCHEZ'S"
DOINGS!
REMEMBER, MEMBER? Where is Chicanom
christian brother?

DISGUSTED said...

Enrique:
Now more than ever, the GB
will go around "thinking"
they "own" the AA.
What fools can they be!


These GB members are
already been "ousted"
by God.
No one respects them.
They plan Gala banquets, chargeing
for Francisca's gala party to
please Sanchez.
So maybe Sanchez can the
as "Hitler" did on his last
days, appoint, appoint and appoint!

Can you imagine canceling the
last service on Friday night
at the convention, to have
the Gala Party for Francisca.
And then Francisca planning
Sanchez?
And does any body care?
eva does, but no one comes to the rescue!

No,they accuse us of being
ousted and "trying to come back".
Well we sued because we knew
that there definately was
"fraud" in the elections,
and had been for "many years"

But we have a brave man of God,
Abel Torres who blew the whistle,
once and for all.
And now they "classify" us as
"has been leaders" of the AA
When in truth, there are NO LEADERS, IN THE AA.
Take notice of the "Dorcas"
there since 1960's leona and
Marroni!. Sponsored and
supported by "Pacheco"!
what a joke!!! SEND THE MONEY OF THE FLOR AZUL!

And oh, we are "once leaders"
and NOW we wanna come back.
Why we have never left and
we will stay.
we have more support now,
because ALL THE GB IS TOTALLY
AND COMPLETELY TRANSPERANT>

When they come to the convention in their Benzes and Beemers,
we will be there wating for them
at the Hilton.

After all those cars are paid,
by the sweat of the brow of the
Hermanos and Hermanas!!

Stop sending them monies.! THANK YOU!!

Unknown said...

Official Apostolic History!!

LOL I agree with CBG, what a bunch of DumbAsses we are to be spending productive time on this regarding this mess.....

The AA is good for a couple of things, fellowship and humor. As for religion, maybe back in the day.

I personally will be going to the CONvention. I am in need of humor. I would like to hear "Como Cocinar Pavo II".

Parents, if Rev. Richard Maffey goes, or even Rev. Barrientos, keep an eye on your children. Pepper Spray is recommended.

After those services, Ill probably need to go to a G12 church to Vomit all the AA Crap out!! lol

SEEN IT AND LIVED IT! VISTO Y VIVIDO!! said...

TO USMC:

WHY GO TO THE CONVENTION: YOU WILL HAVE MORE FUN JUST GOING BACK TO THE USMC
IN VIETMAN:

Believe me if you do not go
to the convention you will
nor be misssed.
And the only thing you will
miss is Valverde being iniciated
as the "fraudlent President,
and Sanchez Vice-President.
and the Francisca breaking all
"record" and violating the
constitution and being fraudluent
named by Sanchez presidenta again!

That is all you'll you,
and you will avoid "voimiting"
Saaaaaaaaaaaaaaave you the
money to clean up!

Unknown said...

Sermons to look for this convention.


"Como Cocinar El Gran Pavo II"

Bishop Scam Malverde

"She's Just 13 yrs Old!"

Rev. Richard Maffey, Fmr MOP Pres.

"Steal Houses from Retards and DisOwn your Daughter"

President Daniel Sanchito

"In Defense of a Molester"

Bishop Leo Maffey

"In Defense of Vehicular Manslaughter"

Bishop Victor Prado

It wouldnt be a convention without a concert. Performing will be:

GB5 promoting their new release...Shutter me Jesus!!

Jaime Aguilar Hernandez promoting her new CD...Tocame en Gym!

The_End_is_Near said...

More sermons:

How to con the brothers out of $5,000 and get promoted to Bishop in Chile to skip the law.
Eddie "the Rat" Pacheco.

How to screw around and still look good and HOLY singing in the choir.
Jamie "2 timer or was it 3?"

Wonder if 10 year old tongue tastes better than 13?
Richard "the perv" Maffy

How to feel up the ladies and make it look like your praying for them.
Daniel "mi gustan las dorcas" Sancho

How to live with an arranged shotgun wedding.
Sam "put a paper bag over her head" Malverde.

Do you Know the way to San Jose?
Abel A.

Unknown said...

LOL! Disgusted, you my friend are trying to guess who I am, and that is so funny. We know each other and have crossed paths many times. But once again you are trying to say things to bait me. I'm not D.R. or who you think I am.

I will tell you one thing. You have failed miserably as a former leader of the AA LA youth department. You have failed in your evangelistic ministry and you have failed in your marriage.
You are pathetic not because you sinned or because you have fallen short, no my friend you are pathetic because you think you know so much and because of this you continue to spew-off nonsense out of your filthy mouth. I will continue to correct you because you are either senile, you have dementia or have selective memory.

Your history of the AA is sometimes close but most of the time it has elements that are twisted and warped(just like your mind). You either believe all you hear from gossipers or you are a straight-up liar. I am not sure which.

God have mercy on your feable soul! You are from an old generation of vipers just like the General Board that taught you. You are a contemporary of former AA John Ortega and many others. Yes, disgusted you are an abomination just like your teacher's and mentors when you sat on the youth board. You are using the same venom they taught you. They taught you well, disgusted. You have been baited well by all of them. You will burn in hell.
Finally, for your information I am not DR and he is not the only person who knows the history of the AA. FYI, I know it better than both you and DR put together.

DISGUSTED said...

To Antonio:
Hey girl or gay, I sure pinched a "hot nerve".
Sorry about that. Had no idea you
would "PERSONALIZE" everything
I have written CONCERNING the GB.
ARE YOU ONE OF THEM?
You write "desperately" trying to
convince all bloggers, that you are
The exact, precised authority on all the History of the World!

Sorry I do not claim to be such
an old "FOSSIL", as you are
trying to "justify" your self as the "perfect, no fault creature!

So you wish me to go to hell? BOY YOU SURE ARE "MAD".
well thank God you are not God, to have that authority!

Especially to send me there, when
you are so "INSULTED" because I "HIT A VERY" tender nerve!
Which one? You and Hazael living in Hollywood for over five years?
Or you defending so seriously the Mezas? Or defending the Florazuerlers?

Or defending Valverde's expliotating of the Hermanos with money?
Or Sanchez giving Francisca, the Gala BanquetAND CANCELLING THE FRIDAY EVENING SERVICE. AND CHARGING THE YOUTH $35.00 TO ATTEND "YOUTH" EVENING SERVICE?

so Sanchez can be
"recompensed" later by Francisca,
here in So.California?

Or that you believe to be the "KNOW IT ALL", and have
a "COMPLUSIVE, OBSESSIVE,need
to CONTROL, OVERPOWERand "KNOW IT ALL complex?

Sorry but I continue stating what
I please. If you do not like it, tough, "its not for you" since you
are so informed with L.D. AND S.A and are a "KNOW IT ALL" JUST COME TO CALIFORNIA AND COOL IT!.
since its boiling hot at your domain!

This is the last time I'll answer
you. Huh... girl-friend?

THAT IS WHY I am so "disgusted" with "controllers" like you!
a need for ADULATION!
CONSTANTLY.................................................................................................................................................................................................................!!!!!

SO YOU FORMED YOUR OWN "DOMAIN", AND ITS HOT!!! AND NOT GOING WELL?

It is not "my" fault!!! So don't take it out on me!
Fix the AA or AWA or UPC of IDM or PAW or AG or AME where ever you congregate!! In "hot" land!
Its not my fault, you are "sinking".
Get God's hand, He will pull you out of the mirey clay!!
He is a merciful God and loves
even you, that has caused so much misery!!

God Bless you and "set you free"!
I'LL PRAY FOR YOUR "PEACE".

FIND YOURSELF...YOU ARE TRULY DESPERATE..TO BE "AN OLD FOSSIL!

DISGUSTED said...

To LOL:

No one could have said it better:
It is ALL TRUE, EVERY WORD YOU SAID!
That is why Iam so disgusted:
Because the AA has become a "intra-structural, social country club.

The only way you "MAY" belong, and be "accepted" is to with the "in" crowd the GB, Johnny come lately.

the "ones" like us that know too much about them, not by "gossip", but because "we saw it with our
own eyes" they "demand" out!

Sammy charges up to $800.00 for display sales "Tables" at the Hotel lobby, for AA CONVENTION VENDORS.......

(ALL)
Alllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
of the material books are from the TRINOS...(TRINITARIANS). except for four plegarized by Martin Del Rancho, Valverde and Montes.(Indio),

THE "BRETHREN" VENDERS HAVE TO CARRY "THEIR MATERIAL" AND ARE ALLOWED TO "SELL" BUT BESIDES THE CHARGE FOR THE "DISPLAY" TABLES..
the brethren are expected to pay
a large %%%%% percent to "VALVERDE" so he can continue to pay for his Costan Rican pseudo doctoral degree. and the $80,000.00 per
month quote for the gym in Fontana!

Why??????? does Valverde have the "right" to get all the monies from the sales at the convention????
And "you just bettasaa ask for permission to "sell from the wanna be President, Valverde.?

Where is Sanchez? concerned and
desperately helping in the planning of the " Gala Banquet" to Honor, the one and "only" Queen of the Barn, Dorcas Francisca. Even to the extent of canceling the evening service on Friday at the convention in Anaheim!!!

And yet, no one "SCREAMS, NOR DEMANDS, WHY NO PASTOR CAN SET UP HIS "OWN" DISPLAY TABLE AND SELL HIS GOODS.FOR THE PASTOR'S OWN CHURCH....

ONLY VALVERDE????WHY????
WHY "DORMILONES". "SLEEPERS", WHY???
PORQUE VALVERDE TOMO EL DERECHO DE COBRAR Y QUEDARSE CON TODO EL DINERO QUE LOS HERMANOS TIENEN QUE PAGARLE POR LA "VENDIMAS" DE LAS MESAS EN EL SALON DE LA CONVENCION?

PORQUE VALAVERDE TIENEN ESO DERECHO?
Y NADIE LE DICE "NADA"

PORQUE LE TIENEN MIEDO A ESE "ZORILLO" APESTOSO?

PORQUE PORQUE PORQUE???

VALVERDE COBRA COMO $500.00 POR MESA,,,
OOOOOO VALVERDE NO ESTA ALLI PRESENTE!!!
PERO SI TIENE A "SUS PERROS CON LA RABIA CUIDANDO ALLI ALREDEDOR DE LAS MESAS? POBRESITOS DE LOS QUE NO "OBESCAN" A LOS PERROS DE CUIDA...HABRA "ARRESTO" DE POLICIA...

VALVERDE ESTA "MUY OCCUPADO, FALCIFICANDO "VOTOS FALSOS!!!

Y USTEDES OBISPOS, ANCIANOS, MINISTROS Y MIEMBROS......
DORMIDOS!!!!!
COBARDES!!!!!!!

PUES AL FIN...SI VALVERDE TIENE EL "PODER Y EL CONTROL DE HECHARLOS FUERA, COMO A BALDEMAR, ETC...

ACUERDEN SE QUE SAM VALVERDE,
"JURO".......DESTRUILLIR, DESDE
NINO A LA ASAMBLEA, POR LO QUE LE HICIERON A SU "AMADO TIO, EFRAIN
VALVERDE, EN LOS 1960------!!!

SE LLEGO ESE DIA TRUINFANTE DE DESTRULLIR A LA ASAMBLEA POR VALVERDE, EL JURO HACERLO..

Y USTEDES LO ESTAN PERMITIENDO!!!!

DIOS TENGA MISERICORDIA DE USTEDES, CONSENTIDORES....

y ustedes Obispos, pastores, etc., estan 'LISTOS' PARA "CONDENAR" A TODO EL QUE USTEDES NO"QUIEREN"..

PERO A LOS "HONORABLES"
USTEDES.....LOS SOSTIENEN,
A ESOS "MANTENIDOS". LOBOS RAPASES!

The_End_is_Near said...

Sancho's special convention song.

If loving you is wrong. I don't wanna be right.

Unknown said...

LOL! Disgusting! You sound nervous! First of all I agree the GB needs to go. They have failed God and God's people!
I don't defend Sanchez, Valverde, the Mesa's, the Jauhall's, the Ramirez or any other family which you blog about.

I just do not subscribe to your type of talk. You should be at least a bit fearful of God, especially since you were a minister of the AA at one time.

FYI, I don't defend homosexuality in any form or manner. But YOU SURE SOUND GAY! God have mercy on your soul if you are. The term "flor azulers" is new to me and I didn't know this stuff was going on in the AA. But since you know so much about the gay men in the AA perhaps you are the president of this "flor azulers" club. It sounds like you were intricately involved in this homosexual lifestyle. Perhaps that is why your wife left you.

I do know that you were a leader in the LA District and you continue to be a big failure. You can't even spell though you criticize the Latino University graduates. Yes they are pathetic too, but you come from the same mold. You were trained by them and the "flor azulers". You couldn't even hold onto your ministerial credentials. Your wife left you. That's probably why!

Factsonly1 said...

I'll be happy to let you know who are some of these bloggers. See, I have friends that work at Head Quarters in Rancho Cucamonga.

The blessed General Board gave their blessing to a group of the new generation MOP to open a Internet Security Department.

They were able to identify a Daniel Ramirez and a Felipe Agredano and a Jonathan Lopez as habitual bloggers.

My sources at HQ said that they contacted Tri-Unified Prophet Steven Montenegro, to see if it would be possible, since he is in high level position in government, to have Sheriff Arpio open an investigation.

This nonsense will not be tolerated when Convention comes. Don't be suprised to see people being arrested in the hall ways at the hotels and convention center.

God will not be mocked!

The_End_is_Near said...

So does that mean Sheriff Arpio will be at the convention?
I hear Jerry Brown will be there too.
Are they hiring Body guards like they did in TX?
Or will Sheriff Arpio do?

International said...

Tofactsonly-
Huh? Good you will be the first one
arrested!! It is good that the Distructive Table(Mesa Directiva)
gets arrested. All and everyone single one of them Blog.
And if not "their off springs" monkies do.
Heard that Victor Prado Junior, took over the "job" of Linda Quiroz
Mounts, to decorate for the conventions from now on. Since Montes was "ousted", for not complying to what "all" the other
pastors had to do for years, but the Quiroz's and Montes always have
felt to be "priviledged"!
LOL...
They sure found out huh: "NO WAY"!

If the "arrrests come may they be at the "Gala Banquet" of Francisca, where Friday of the convention, her lover Sanchez will "crown" her. What a joke!!

All of you will sure be arrested.
Starting with the "wanna be" President--Sam.
He will "cheat" as sure as you blog, and be president to keep his promise...to destroy the AA for the Memory of His Papa, Miguel and to what Nava did to Efrain Valverde.
May God rest their souls, and have forgiven them!

You factsonly will be the first arrrested and the "decorator Victor Prado, who is decorating for the Gala Banquet for Francisca!

VICTOR PRADO JUNIOR DECORATOR???
REALLY??

International said...

Si tu no eres amigo, o "mandador" de los la Mesa directiva, nadie quiere ser tu amigo.
Si la Mesa Directiva te ha dado
"bola negra" porque sabes "todo"
la vida de ellos, afuera con todo.

La Mesa directiva, no le importa de la salvacion de las almas,
nomas estan haciendo cellulas, para que "entre" mas y mas dinero.
Ellos handan jugando, golfo, y en vacaciones, y en carros lujosos, para que usted Pastor aun tenga que trabajar para poder mandarles a la Mesensa Directiva, la cuota, que quieren para la convencion, de $6,000.00 por iglesia.

Y luego no se les olvide, que Samuelito va a recibir todos los "saldos" de las "vendimas" en el salon de ventas en la convenciones.
Aun en las convenciones districtales , mandan sus perros, de rabia para vender. Y usted Pastor, que? Y eso en su propio districo...Aon SU OBISPO VENDIDO, PORQUE ESE OBISPO RECIBI MAS DE $10,000.00 POR MES.....Y AUN EL SALDO DE LAS IGLESIA QUE TAMBIEN ES PASTOR!
Y USTEDES PASTOR, MANDE, MANDE, Y MANDE MAS Y MAS DINERO!!!!!
YAA BASTA!!!

Siempre se ha dicho que Sam Valverde, no tiene verguensa, ni Abel Aguilar, con permetir que sus hijos tomen iglesias robadas de "otro fundamento" de Pastores, que trabajaron.

Y ahora Sanchez haciendole un "Gala Banquet" a su prefirida, Dorcas la Francisca, donde Sanchez ha pedido que se "honre" la Francisca, que se dice "Frances" por ser "mojada" gringa de Matamores, MX!

Siempre se ha dicho, que entre
"mas fella" este una Dorca o doncella dela Asamblea, mas la "honran". Para ver que en ser "fellas" hay humildad!
Que estupidos!!!

La reina Ester en la Biblia fue hermosa!. Y aun Sari la esposa de Abraham.,,Pero la Asamblea esta
todo a la contra. Miren con quien esta casado Arthuro Espinozza, pero al fin es "hermana" de Sanchez, y la de Sanchez, la Eva, parece que ya se fue de este mundo, y la de prado, aguilar, maffey y martin del Campo.CORRAN!!!

Pero la mas "fella" es la Francisca. pero Sanchez esta ciego, por al fin el es "horible"!

Dios tenga misericordia de la Asamblea, con toda este odio!

DISPIERTEN! YA ES TARDE! said...

Para international:
Ya era tiempo de hablar
espanol a todos los hermanos en
Latino America que estan en
estos blogs! Y EN USA.
Es muy verdadero que Daniel Jahall
dego el "gusano" plantado en las mentes de los Apostolicos.
Porque Jahall creo un mujer espantosa,
y la "acabo" en 20 anos y la hizo a la pobresita una "viega" antes de tiempo.

Y sigio Aguilar con la misma idea "de fella," y ser "humilde" y Arturo Espinoza, y Sam Valvaerde, on la mas "fella" de San Ysidro. Pero al fin "hija del obispo de "ese" e n t o n c e s!!!
TODO SE ACABA...SAMY.
Y la Ofelia, y la Cesea que esta en negacion de lo que hizo Aguilar en San Jose con la Mari,
Y te quedaste Sammy con "la fella".
Y Sanchez, con la Fierro, Eva BArrientos, y ahora quiere Sanchez a la FFrancisca!, que la va a honrar todos saben eso. tambien se eso.
Clausuaron el servicio de convencion el viernes, para "coronar" a la mojada, Francisca!
Que dicen de eso??
Y creme la "mas fella" antes de la Leona, y la de fresno, esa si la "riega", la Linda Martines.

Dios tenga misericordia de estos
bandidos...perro rapases!

Si no te quieren, porque sabes mucho, y si no les sirves, "si senor, si senor<
AFUERA CON TODOS!

PERO AL CABO SIEMPRE RECIBIENDO DINERO!!
Que ese es el dios de ellos los "honorables".

Anonymous said...

Este Friday comienza la conferencia
nacional en Denver,Co. Sept.3-5-10

Creo que es una convencion nacional
peron no de elecciones, como la ya
prevista en Anaheim,Ca. Ya estan los votos.........de los cinco miembros de la calificadora.

Factsonly1 said...

Order is being restored to the beloved church!

I was talking with a close friend on mine on the inside at HQ. He said that there is a new accounting system now in place to keep robbers from taking money from God.

Churches now have to report online every montn with their profits, income and tithes to the blessed general board.

No longer will robbing God be permitted!

Also, the usher team will have photos of people that are on the Banned List for this coming convention. Anyone on the list will be escorted out after they have had an interview with Convention Security.

Judegement is coming soon church!

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International said...

Hey factsonly-
Great news, that the Usher's team
will escort the persons on rhe
"Black balled" list.
This way we do not have to do it ourselves, and have to escort Sanchez, Valverde, Rauqeuelito, Pachecho and nameless wife...what's her name, from the
Apache tribe from native Americans?
And Aguilar and his "wanna be pastors, of "robbed churches", and Ceseeeas, the "know nothing", person, and Prado and Ofelia who is forever on a diet and never goes down an inch., and Martin del rancho and Horalia, and Artie Espinoza, that is just "waiting, like the "squnk" to kick out the Pastor over there in Dallas, Texas, where Artie's wife, Sanchez's sister has already established "domain".
And Ma with his "pagan wife,Coneja, from the gang of "BLACK DYED COLOR HAIR DORCAS"
All of these are "in the Blackballed list Iam sure, for the convention.

Sammy made sure he had the convention in Anaheim where Sanchez can attend with ease, since Sanchez lives a "stone throw" from the stolen property on North Citron street in Anaheim.

The breakfasts plates at the Hilton are about $25.00 per person on the buffet, and then lunch about $30.00 per person and dinner, about $45.00 per person.
But DOES SAMMY CARE? OR GIVE A

HOOT...SAMMY WILL HAVE PLENTY OF MONEY, FROM THE PASTORS AND FROM HIS "GRAND SALARIES" AND FROM THE
'SALES at the TABLES that Sammy charges $400. and more for table, plus a 20% from all the sales that his "dogs" calculate from each of the Brethren.

Did Sammy care that here in California the prices are Higher?
Heck no...

Poor sucker, but Sammy does not care he is already been "voted" in by the "Illegal Gang" of fraud votes!!!!

AND SANCHEZ...IS ANXIOUSLY AWAITING THE "GALA BANQUETS" FOR HIM AND FRANCISCA. WHERE HE WILL
ESCORT FRANCISCA, SINCE HE IS THE
LOL...PRESIDING BISHOPPPPPPPPPPPP!!


God have mercy!!

DISPIERTEN! YA ES TARDE! said...

To Alamo City:
There will definately be
no "elections in Denver,Colo.,
for the AWA.
There are never to be elections
It will always be the same five,
DIRECTORS:
WHO WILL ALWAYS PREACH, TEACH
AND HAVE THE CONTROL, POWER
BUT RECEIVE "NO MONEY" OPENINGLY!

The AWA will
never have elections:
of the Directors.

Have you seen the U tube of the
last AWA convention in Dallas, Texas? They had "Gloria Trevi's twin and the other HIHOP Caverett,
singer.
Tore the place apart, since that
is the "in" music with the AA and the AWA!
SUDUCTIVE,SENSUAL AND PROVATIVE!!!
BIT TIME!!
For sure Baldemar choose the "same singers, since he was marriache and "appreciates" great TEX-MEX
Norteana music.

But the AA has Aguilar to deal with
he promotes his "own type" and the Union City Florazuels, have their "own" victim to always promote the "wanna be piano, organ, and director..arron.!

All is lost too in "that Western front!
But since "they are all "blackballed" by the next, fraudulent presidente Valverde, they will all be "escorted "OUT" at the convention by the "Dogs, the ushers" assigned by Valverde from "his controled church" Fountain of Hate. the Gym that he has the odasity to "say he pays $80,000 per month so he can get,
MORE MONEY,
FOR A "FREE RIDE AT THE CONVENTIONS!
SANCHEZ TOO, FOR FRANCISCA!

How pagan can we get!!
All is gone and lost at the "Western Front"!

How sad, and all in the Name
of God!!
WHERE CAN WE GO BUT TO THE LORD!!

Anonymous said...

Mañana comienza la CONVENCION en Denver,Co. los predicadores son Saul Avila, Freddy Jose y Juan Campos. Bueno es lo que me dijeron
mis amigos de la AWA aqui en Houston,Texas.Nosotros ya tuvimos nuestra Convencion en San Antonio,Texas celebramos los 100 Años de la Iglesia Bautista Hispana.Tenemos mas de 500 mil de hermanos en la fe.

porq said...

Para aquellos ministros-pastores de la AA denom,
esta es una conferencia k no quieren no atender!
Presiento que va hacer un evento espiritual y lleno de la presencia y majestad del Señor Jesus, venga!

Y para los k estan esperansados de la del 16 de Septiembre, para k haiga "un cambio" de ver una nueva mesa directiva, NI ESPERANZAS!! Don Julio, bueno el cambio esta sucediendo ya ahora mismo!
Muchos hermanos y ministros estan escapando y uyendo por sus vidas y familias de salir de la AA.

SLJ said...

We're losing members because of our administration.

Whazz Up Bobby? Have not heard you in a while.

The_End_is_Near said...

I'm so excited about the convention!!!!
All the Bishops and Pastors are fasting and Praying about the elections.
Wonder who will win?

so cal district man said...

Any news from Denver, CO as to the AWA's convention? Man I wanted to go so bad but will have to wait for the next one. Maybe I can attend the AA's circus, we'll see.

Interested in Truth and Justice said...

Bishops and Pastors are praying and fasting for the vote? is this the same thing that they do and then go around God's plan an dput in whomever they please? Is this what prayer does? to put a man in a leadership position and who only recieved two votes?

How 'blind' can you be to the facts?

So because man refused to apologize and humble themselves before the church now you have a situation where so many pastors and people have left the organization.

How much more can you take?
How many more letters for your tithe of the tithe will you receive before you get fed up? (Tithe of the tithe is no biblical)
How much more can you take when a small group of men are attempting to dictate what every church does?
It is comical in a way when they are attempting to state "we are going to make the churches and pastors accountable and they will have to answer to our questions, especially to those that pertain to money and yet they are allowed to continue double dippine, honorary offerings expenses paid and the list goes on? Do you realise that the president (which by the way has done so much harm) earns a total compensation of over $100,000.00 per year and that does not even include his pastoral salary? and I could go down the list.

The scripture states that a man's pride is the beginning of his downfall.

Bottom line is this, if the new board are any of the same people then there is just not any hope at all to save this great organization. These 8 men in power right now will go down into history as destroying a good organization in just 8 years.

Mark this, the Anahiemm convention center will never again see the crowds that once occupied that center during a convention, in many cases many attendees had to be sent home because there was no room. Now I would not be surprised of the low hotel reservation, low turnout, you will never again see an Assembly convention at the Anahiem Convention Center again.

Remember the last convention in Texas? at the most there may have only been 400 - 600 in attendance and still the leadership did not humble themselves to ask for forgiveness.

So go and find somewhere else to attend so that your efforts will truly make a difference in people's lives not to someone's wallet, ego and pride.

You have a choice, what's holding you back.

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Interested in Truth and Justice said...

Bishops and Pastors are praying and fasting for the vote? is this the same thing that they do and then go around God's plan an dput in whomever they please? Is this what prayer does? to put a man in a leadership position and who only recieved two votes?

How 'blind' can you be to the facts?

So because man refused to apologize and humble themselves before the church now you have a situation where so many pastors and people have left the organization.

How much more can you take?
How many more letters for your tithe of the tithe will you receive before you get fed up? (Tithe of the tithe is no biblical)
How much more can you take when a small group of men are attempting to dictate what every church does?
It is comical in a way when they are attempting to state "we are going to make the churches and pastors accountable and they will have to answer to our questions, especially to those that pertain to money and yet they are allowed to continue double dippine, honorary offerings expenses paid and the list goes on? Do you realise that the president (which by the way has done so much harm) earns a total compensation of over $100,000.00 per year and that does not even include his pastoral salary? and I could go down the list.

The scripture states that a man's pride is the beginning of his downfall.

Bottom line is this, if the new board are any of the same people then there is just not any hope at all to save this great organization. These 8 men in power right now will go down into history as destroying a good organization in just 8 years.

Mark this, the Anahiemm convention center will never again see the crowds that once occupied that center during a convention, in many cases many attendees had to be sent home because there was no room. Now I would not be surprised of the low hotel reservation, low turnout, you will never again see an Assembly convention at the Anahiem Convention Center again.

Remember the last convention in Texas? at the most there may have only been 400 - 600 in attendance and still the leadership did not humble themselves to ask for forgiveness.

So go and find somewhere else to attend so that your efforts will truly make a difference in people's lives not to someone's wallet, ego and pride.

You have a choice, what's holding you back.

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Anonymous said...

Truth and Justice,

What holds many back from leaving is that they Love an Organization and the feeling of belonging more than they Love Truth and Justice.

The feeling of being labeled a rebel and being outcast for them is too much to bear.

They are insecure and could not handle the thought of not being in the inner circle of the A.A.

Believe me if anyone truly is your brother in Christ they could never blackball you, if anyone truly has the Love of Christ they could not look down on their fellow brethren for leaving the " sacred " A.A.

If anyone judges you or turns their back on you for leaving.....they were never truly your friends.

The_End_is_Near said...

Just got a hold of the final ballot for president of the AA after much prayer and fasting the final list is in for the vote.

Just vote for one that the Lord has directed to you vote for.

1. Samuel Valerde

2. Samuel Valerde

3. Samuel Valverde

4. Samuel Valverde

Special thanks to the hand picked Qualifing Committee for their many hours of prayer and fasting to arrive at this list.

Unknown said...

LMAO!!

Sounds like we have one of those
Saddam Heusien Elections where Saddam wins 100% of the vote.

Viva Saddam Malverde!!

International said...

Con todo lo que se ha escrito sobre
la vida "sucia" de explotacion para los Pastores, miembros de la AA.,
no hay ninguna verguenza de parte de los "lobos rapazes" de la MESA DIRECTIVA para
"oir" de que son explotadores,
VIVIDORES, Y COMELONES, DE TORPES
GANACIAS.

Van a llegar a la convencion en sus Mercedes, y lexuses y BMW, todos los de aqui de California.
DE LA MESA DIRECTIVA..
Y con suits costosos de $2,000.00
sin tal verguenza de que sus hermanitos en Cristo tubieron que "vender platos" cobrar a todos los miembros de las iglesias una "grande coata, para mandarles a los "mantenidos"
Solo para ver siiiiiiiiiiiiiii acaso.........le tiran un "juesito", y aun le mencionan sus "nombres" por los miserables de la Mesa Directiva, que no tienen "nada de pudesza, ni verguenza de robar, "diezmos de diezmos",
y Samuelito y Raquelito, con las bolsas "llenas de dinero" de las
VENTAS DE LAS MESAS EN EL SALON DE VENTAS EN LA CONVENCION, QUE TIENEN QUE "PAGARLE" A SAMUELITO, HASTA $800.00 DOLLARES POR MESA..
PARA FONTANA,
QUIEN LE DA "ESE PERMISO" A VALVERDE?? USTEDES COBARDES!!!
y LOS "SUITES DE EL HOTEL, DONDE SE HOSPEDAN!!!

Y luego, la Gala Banquete que Daniel Sanchez le va a hacer a la Francisca, la preverida "dorca" de Sanchez....y la Francisca con el cabello "NEGRO'''NEGRO PINTADO, COMO TODAS LAS DEMAS!!

y QUE DE LA DOCTRINA QUE PREDICA DANIEL SANCHEZ???

NO TIENEN TEMOR NI RESPECTO A DIOS!!! NI VERGUENSA!!

PERO SE QUEDAN AL FIN $10,000.00 POR MES Y EL SALDO DE SUS IGLESIAS...LOS TIENE ALLI!!!
POBRES MISERABLES...MENTENIDOS!!
ROBONES!!robones, robones, robones...miserables. Que Dios los reprenda...Sancho, valverde, pacheco, aguilas, ma, del rancho, espino, corre que te alcanso, prado!

P.D. Dice Valverde, que le cobren a su "suite" toda la comida que coman en el restaurante, y que el por ser el nuevo presidente pagara todas la comidas!!!
Que bueno....hagalo!!!
Valverde y todos los mafioso deben eso y massssssssss nosotros!!!

Anonymous said...

It is so sad that the name of our Lord and Saviour is being blasphemed by greedy unholy men.
My bible says to come out from among them, saith the Lord!
It is so sad that so-called Pastors are leading the sheep to the slaughter instead of coming out from among them and starting independent ministries .God can not bless no mess!

Unknown said...

According to the apostolic headquarters they will not be
charging this year the regular registration fee, i believe in past
conventions it was like $20 dollars

It is a shame and disgrace that
Valverde is not stepping down anytime soon, Valverde is the defacto behind the scenes president of the assembly for several years and yes I know him personally

In my final report ALL the sources
and evidence that I collected
POINTED to Valverde as the main
culprit behind the breakup of the entire assembly, I stand as
the Prophet Samuel who once
told King David "YOU ARE THAT MAN"
I am not a prophet and Valverde
is no King David in fact, Valverde
will go down in history of the assembly as one of the BAD LEADERS
of it

Valverde is the longest serving
member of the General Board and
if you know anything about
corruption that is NOT a good
thing, Valverde was allowed for too
long to do many things under
Baldemar Rodriguez and the subsequent presidents almost
unchecked

If Valverde becomes President
you will see a little dictator
trying to squeeze TITHES from
the already financially struggling
brothers who can barely afford their church mortgage payments

If valverde becomes President
it will be the highest insult
to see the man who kicked out
Baldemar, Jauhall, Gutierrez
and many more capable brothers than him, the Assembly is on the
brink of Bankruptcy and Valverde
still wants to be President

Unfortunately the few who will attend the Assembly are ignorant
of Valverdes background and will
probably vote for him and its sad
because under Valverdes term in
the General Board ; the Assembly
has split, tithes have gone down,
lawsuits have gone up, brothers have left the assembly, weak
brothers have left the Church
with this as an excuse and Valverde
still wants to be president ?

Anonymous said...

A todo lo que he leido de la AA Inc. Ya esta en bankarota y en muchos problemas.

Que mas puede hacer Valverde? Si undirla mas y llevarla .....

Por aqui en Houston, Joel Montes esta en ayunas para que su amigo Valverde sea el presidente para restaurado a ser parte de AA Inc.
seguir dando conferencias el y su amada Linda Quiroz de Montes.

Segun los informes departe de los hermanos de NLC Inc. ya ven como los las personas hablan y dicen todo lo que el pastor informa.

Por esta razon va haber mas problemas en AA Inc. si Vlaverde es electo presidente y Montes es restaurado. Entonces si va ver muchos pero muchos problemas y mas demandas..............

Unknown said...

...Believe it or not I read
in my local news paper about
Valverde telling a newspaper
reporter that he was already
looking for a bigger church
building I couldn't believe
my ears I know for a fact that Fountain of Mis-votes has been
struggling to make these 6-7
payments just this year alone
we only have about 30m years more to go on the mortgage !!!

Valverde has too much self pride
and that will be his fall, I feel sorry for him and Rachel especially when he preaches
about Ananias and Sapphira lying
to the holy spirit, thats exactly what he and the other general
board members did when they rigged the voting elections years ago !!!
how can you have the nerve to tell
all the men of God in front of you to pray so that GOD will lead their vote and then rig the election !!!

I would still forgive Valverde if you would publicly repent and
ask Baldemar Rodriguez to forgive him for doing a JUDA's on him
"backstabbing" his former boss
whom he once broke bread with in the name of our Lord

NO, Valverde has not committed the unpardonable sin, but he sure is
thrashing his name and whatever little honor he has left, from my
observations he thinks that most
Apostolics are mexican peasants,
he forgets that in the body of Christ we have prophets, teachers, evangelists, so that we can keep a check on each other, Valverde thinks that he is the Apostolic
Pope from Rancho Cucamonga

once again I would forgive Valverde for single-handedly
destroying the Apostolic assembly if he would confess his part and sin before the brethren

Unknown said...

I have a legitimate question for those who care about the upcoming elections...

It is quite obvious that the general consensus is “we want change!”

Assuming that the lesson has been learned and the elections will be 100% clean, who would some of you want as your leaders? Please no bashing (we have read enough of that).

Also, are there any on the current board that you wouldn’t mind to be returned? I can think of a few that would continue to do a good job, and of course some that should be not re-elected.

If there is a new president (other than Valverde) do you think that he’d be able to reconcile with pastors that have been lost?

the truth said...

Just attended the AWA Conference in Denver, Co. and I have to say it was one of the best conventions I have attended in a long time.

How was this convention better than others. Well, for starters the feel of the convention was that of excitement. People were actually excited to be there and it showed in the worship and activities. People were pleasant and friendly. Even the higher ups were cordial and seemed like they were enjoying being there.

I tell you one thing, even the offering time only took about 5 to 10 minutes. It was pleasant!!! Pastor Campos and Avilas messeges were on target. And most people I talked to, were genuinly happy to be there. I'm glad I went and would recommend that people check out AWA churches, they seem to have a different Christian feel to them!

Anonymous said...

I agree Truth,

I did not attend, however heard many great things by those who did.

AWA Churches while not perfect ...do have a friendlier more christian like spirit.

The fact that The Governing Body does not take a Tithe of Tithes for starters is very refreshing.

Each Church is autonomus and there is no Bishop breathing down your neck harrasing or bullying you.

Yet there is Fellowship and brotherly love.

A true fellowship NOT a denomination or Organization with power hungry leaders.

The best move I ever made was leaving The A.A.

unhe2 said...

To Truth and Enrique: truth this was my first AWA convention that I attended and I know exactly what your saying, I had that same feeling, it was wonderful to see all the brothers that we already knew involved and in action in the work of the Lord. Enrique did you attended the convention? any comments.

Anonymous said...

No i did not have the opportunity to attend.

Could not get off from work.

But the few AWA churches I have visited seem so different from assembly churches that is true.

unhe2 said...

OK, maybe Midland next year. we will try to be of some sort of help to the AWA activities, God has been good to us here in Houston and we will try to share our blessings to the organization in the future, GB.

justice_will_prevail said...

When Sammy is crowned the prez, all the pastors of the A.A. will have the salaries paid out from the rancho cucamonga headquarters. They will centralize all the monies and intimidate the pastors even further. Let the demise of the A.A. continue... haber que pasa para el fin de este mes?

Here we go again said...
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ComingOut said...

TO ALL BLOGGERS!!!!

When I was in Denver, somebody showed me copies of the "AA Board of Directors" salary and compensation package. I wrote the this information:

D. Sanchez- $99,345 Base Salary
$52,257 Compensation
$151,602 TOTAL

S. Valverde- $61,494 Base Salary
$30,284 Compensation
$91,778 TOTAL

E. Pacheco - $55,344 Base Salary
$15,731 Compensation
$71,075 TOTAL

L. Maffey - $55,344 Base Salary
$5,196 Compensation
$60,540 TOTAL

A. Espinosa- $51,655 Base Salary
$28,794 Compensation
$80,449 TOTAL

A. Aguilar - $51,655 Base Salary
$19,092 Compensation
$70,747 TOTAL

I. Martin - $51,655 Base Salary
Del Campo $21,992 Compensation
$73,647 TOTAL

V. Prado - $51,655 Base Salary
$22,862 Compensation
$74,517 TOTAL

These are authentic numbers! I copied this information from an official AA document. Does anybody have copies? And if you do can you post these copies in the "Apostolicassemvly.info" page. Let the world know what these guys in the AA GB make! Thanks

Interested in Truth and Justice said...

The Assembly will never be the same again, I would not doubt that room reservations are low and attendance will not even fill the bottom floor, remember when the districts had to rent large auditoriums and centers for their own distrcit conventions? now they are renting churches. ?? Does that seem like growth to you?

AWA and other like it represent the opportunity to invest in your own church ministry without the need to constantly be raising money to pay sector dues, district tithes organization tithes.

You have the opporutnity to be set free... Go for it pastors, don't wait any longer, your people need to be rescued.

What it really means is that no one else else control but yet there is a spirit of fellowship like it first started out, Nava should never have started the idea of an organization or at least not like the one that currently exists.
That's one reason why he (Nava) could not get along with LLorente.

Factsonly1 said...

I just got off the phone with someone on the inside in our churches HQ in Rancho Cucamonga.

PRAISE REPORT!

They are expecting a capacity crowd at the convention. YES. They are expecting the main hall at the Anaheim Convention Center to be full with other rooms being set up for the overflow.

All the hotels in the area are all reserved for members of the church!

Glory and Honor! Amen!

Anonymous said...

El presidente Sanchez makes $151,602 plus 120,000 or 140,000 de
parte de la iglesia es demasiado dinero....

Valverde makes 91,778 plus 120,00 or 140,000 de parte de la iglesia
que varvaros con razon la asamblea esta en bancarota..........y la lista sigue!!!!

Tambien me di cuenta que de la Flor Azul 75% se queda para la admistracion general y solo 25% va para los misioneros.

Jesus dijo que el ladron solo vino
para destruir, robar y matar. Estos hombres han hechos todo esto al cuerpo de Cristo. Que Tristeza!!

Anonymous said...

Ojala que los pastores aqui en San Antonio o el Dist.Central de Texas
se den cuenta del mal gasto y robo de dinero,y no solo aqui sino tambien en todo Texas.

ComingOut said...

TO ALL BLOGGERS!!!!

When I was in Denver, somebody showed me copies of the "AA Board of Directors" salary and compensation package. I wrote the this information:

D. Sanchez- $99,345 Base Salary
$52,257 Compensation
$151,602 TOTAL

S. Valverde- $61,494 Base Salary
$30,284 Compensation
$91,778 TOTAL

E. Pacheco - $55,344 Base Salary
$15,731 Compensation
$71,075 TOTAL

L. Maffey - $55,344 Base Salary
$5,196 Compensation
$60,540 TOTAL

A. Espinosa- $51,655 Base Salary
$28,794 Compensation
$80,449 TOTAL

A. Aguilar - $51,655 Base Salary
$19,092 Compensation
$70,747 TOTAL

I. Martin - $51,655 Base Salary
Del Campo $21,992 Compensation
$73,647 TOTAL

V. Prado - $51,655 Base Salary
$22,862 Compensation
$74,517 TOTAL

These are authentic numbers! I copied this information from an official AA document. Does anybody have copies? And if you do can you post these copies in the "Apostolicassemvly.info" page. Let the world know what these guys in the AA GB make! Thanks

Anonymous said...

Estos hombres que si han explotado
a todo la iglesia en el pais.

Y que pueden hacer los pastores? NADA!!!! Porque ellos(GB) se mandan
solos y segun la constiticion de la AA Inc. les da el derecho de hacer y desahacer;y lo que djieron los jueces de California es una anarquía;segun todo lo que he leido en los documentos que estan en apostolic letters.

El martes da principio a su convencion general y que pueden hacer los pastores NADA y ellos creen que todo esto va cambiar, que creen ustedes?

Factsonly1 said...

From my sources inside HQ, we are going to be blessed with many dignitaries from Sheriff Arpio to Meg Whitman. You can thank Prophet Steve Montenegro who is being used by the Lord in mighty ways.

J2X is being established in California! Prophet Jason Aguilar will revive the masses! From my sources in HQ, its been verified that Prophet J2X saved over 10,000 souls!

The Apostolic Assembly has Mega Churches!

Glory and Honor! Amen!!

justice_will_prevail said...

to ComingOut

these salaries/packages are outrageous. No wonder the AA is in the mess it is in, they want the pastors and their congregations to comply to fill their bellies and not the pews of their congregations. Where are the true servants of the Lord in the AA? Where is the outrage from the pastors and their congregations?

Can you post that document somewhere so that all can see it? The poor people of the AA need to see this parody and ridicule.

Factsonly1 said...

Calling on all Tri-Unified Prophets!

Prophet Congressman Montenegro!

Prophet Pastor Romo!

Prophet J2X Aguilar!

I call upon you right now to take action! I have learned from my sources that the creaters of this site and the AWA are launching a campaign of disinformation before our long awaited Convention!

They are out to spread lies, deciets, and misgivings about our leaders!

They assure me that those salaries are a false lie from the depths of hell! They are trying to discourage our people!

The AWA leaders and pastors are the Judas of our church!

Take action immediately!

factsonly1 said...

I have also lighted candles and prayed to my masters, the Tri-unified prophets so their wrath can come upon those who expose my leaders.

Lord Montenegro, lord Romo, and almighty Aguilar I pray to you that you punish these infidels. I ask this in the name of montenegro, romo, and aguilar amen!

Now you will see the wrath come upon you chismoleros!

Unknown said...

APOSTOLIC PASTOR ARRESTED!!!

===================================
CARSON, Calif. (KABC) -- A church pastor from Carson was arrested on Thursday, accused of sexually assaulting a 14-year-old female member of his congregation .

Police took 45-year-old Leonel Pelayo into custody at about 1 p.m. He allegedly befriended the victim in a church youth group, and then took her to several vacant locations where he sexually assaulted her.

Pelayo, a pastor at Iglesia Apostolica Monte de Horeb in South Los Angeles, allegedly had relations with the teen between July 1 and Aug. 20.

Pelayo owns several properties throughout the L.A. area, and he possibly used some of those locations to commit the alleged crimes, according to LAPD Capt. Fabian Lizarraga.

Pelayo has been charged with six felony counts, including lewd act upon a child and unlawful sexual intercourse. He is free after posting $140,000 bail.

If convicted, he faces up to four years and four months in prison.

Detectives believe there may be additional victims. Anyone with information is urged to call police at (877) LAPD-24-7.

Bishops Sanchez, Valverde, Prado, Maffey, Aguilar, Del Campo...what do you have to say to the Membership of the Apostolic Assembly regarding the sexual predators that you have as pastors?

justice_will_prevail said...

to factsonly1...

Ask the holy trinity to pray for this pastor...

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/local/los_angeles&id=7660542

GBREPORT said...

FONTANA HERALD NEWS
Updated: Thursday, February 19, 2009 10:11 AM PST
Huge new church opens in northwestern Fontana;

By ALEJANDRO CANO

In the movie “Field of Dreams,” Ray Kinsella (portrayed by Kevin Costner) received the whispering message “If you built it, they will come.” In real life, Sam Valverde received the same vivid message. Both fictional and real life characters followed the advice, and their lives were forever changed.

Pastor Valverde did not built a baseball field so famous deceased players could come play, but instead he built a church where parishioners could come pray ... and come they did.

The flock of 80 in 1984 that congregated at a house on Slover Avenue multiplied rapidly over the years to reach 800, creating the need for a larger facility. The church met at the now-closed Fontana Civic Auditorium for many years.

Now at more than 1,200 and growing, the Fountain of Truth Church has opened a new home in northwestern Fontana on a piece of land that could easily hold five baseball fields.

Joyfully, hundreds of people, including Fontana Mayor Mark Nuaimi, City Manager Ken Hunt and Councilmembers John Roberts and Acquanetta Warren, participated in the grand opening ceremony for the new church last Sunday.

GBREPORT said...

“We build roads, but you build lives,” said Hunt, referring to the different services the church offers. “We make sure citizens are protected, but you make sure they are served.”

Valverde, who envisioned the growth of the congregation from the beginning, welcomed parishioners to the $12 million building that includes administrative offices, a bookstore, six classrooms for Bible study, a production center, a children's playroom, choir room, and a sanctuary with space to seat more than 1,300 persons.

With state-of-the-art equipment that includes three huge screens, cameras, and audio gear (which, together with nine full-time salaried positions and the mortgage, bring the monthly expenses to $100,000), Valverde will aim to convey the message of God to people with emotional, spiritual, economical and psychological needs.

“Our house is open to everybody; we are anxious to receive those hungry for God,” said Valverde moments after the Spanish-language service in the Green Room. “There is a need for advice, especially in times of economic crisis. There are people without jobs or getting divorced, or people just
trying to raise families but yet, they may feel lost. We are here for them.”
Fountain of Truth currently implements a Christian program called HomesOpen for Ministry and Encouragement (HOME), which contains many church cells. Each cell comprises about 8-12 persons and the group meets at different houses in a more intimate environment.

“It's the perfect way to identify people's needs. They meet, talk and get to know each other. Then we know how can we be of service,” said Andrew Rodriguez, a member of the church who oversaw the construction project. “In the time of Christ, people experienced life together, grew together, and prayed together; that's our model.”

The church also offers the FTC Champs Children's Ministry for kids up to 5th grade with the objective of teaching children the word of God at an appropriate and creative level. For the young members, the church offers the Fear Not Youth Ministry, which focuses on personal development and encourages young people to service those in need.

The Fervent Worship Ministry was designed for adults to learn about Christ through songs and music. The 30-member choir is the result of this ministry.

Rodriguez and Valverde expect that the new facility will attract new members, and therefore, construction of a school is planned in the near future. Before that occurs, the church is planning to develop a food and clothing distribution program that would benefit hundreds of low-income residents and homeless people alike.

“We have room for a K-12 school; not only will we be offering spiritual advice, but also jobs to the region. We have a great future ahead of us,” said Valverde, whose church is one of the largest in the area.

The church, which offers services in English and Spanish, is located at 5401Citrus Avenue, north of the 210 Freeway. For more information, visit www.fountainoftruth.com or call (909) 822-5450.

GBREPORT said...

Presidents Salary: $99,345.00
House/Auto Saary: $24,000.00
Vacation Weeks: $ 5,351.00
Pension: $11,129.00
Health Insurance: $ 8,589.00
Dental: $ 420.00
Vision: $ 206.00
Life: $ 2,071.00
Funeral Plan: PAID
FICA Allowance: $ 7,095.00
TOTAL $151,602.00

ComingOut said...

TO ALL BLOGGERS!!!!

When I was in Denver, somebody showed me copies of the "AA Board of Directors" salary and compensation package. I wrote the this information:

D. Sanchez- $99,345 Base Salary
$52,257 Compensation
$151,602 TOTAL

S. Valverde- $61,494 Base Salary
$30,284 Compensation
$91,778 TOTAL

E. Pacheco - $55,344 Base Salary
$15,731 Compensation
$71,075 TOTAL

L. Maffey - $55,344 Base Salary
$5,196 Compensation
$60,540 TOTAL

A. Espinosa- $51,655 Base Salary
$28,794 Compensation
$80,449 TOTAL

A. Aguilar - $51,655 Base Salary
$19,092 Compensation
$70,747 TOTAL

I. Martin - $51,655 Base Salary
Del Campo $21,992 Compensation
$73,647 TOTAL

V. Prado - $51,655 Base Salary
$22,862 Compensation
$74,517 TOTAL

These are authentic numbers! I copied this information from an official AA document. Does anybody have copies? And if you do can you post these copies in the "Apostolicassemvly.info" page. Let the world know what these guys in the AA GB make! Thanks

The_End_is_Near said...

I wonder if Maffy and Pelayo will attend the convention and sit in the front row.
Cause once they are behind bars they will have a front row seat to Big Bubba.

The_End_is_Near said...

Friday, September 17, 2010
Theme: "Inspire, Identity, Impact" (Arena)
Youth Conference: 9:00am - 2:00pm

Conference speakers:

Jesse Mendoza
Jacob Rodriguez
Richard Veloz

Theme: "Celebrate Your Destiny" (Arena)
Evening Worship Service: 6:00 pm - 9:00 pm

Speaker: Bishop President Elect
PRESIDENT ELECT!!!!!!!!!!

Like it's a real no brainer!!!

At least have the balls not to lie .

Factsonly1 said...

God's mighty power will be on display this week in Ahaheim!

A gloryous out pouring of the holy ghost will engulf Anaheim! Great and mighty miracles will happen because all of the great prophets will be gatherd in unity to transform this generation!

These are the best and most powerful prophets any generation has ever seen! From Washington DC to Hawaii the Apostolic Assembly church has grown from Capitol Hill to the halls of Hollywood!

Glory and Honor! Amen!

Anonymous said...

Factsonly1 en que mundo vives?

Solo Cristo tiene poder en el cielo y en la tierra. Solo en ese nombre hay poder. Nosotros los Bautistas creemos en Cristo.

Es como si invocaramos a la virgen Maria la madre de Jesus,virgen de
San Juan y virgen de Guadalupe. Que puede hacer Jason, Romo y Montenegro........NADA!!!!

Factsonly1 said...

La Trucha

Thousands of souls have been saved because of the works of the prophets Montenegro, Aguilar and Romo.

How many have you saved for Jesus?

S. Montenegro said...

DISCLAIMER!!!!

TO ALL BLOGGER - This factsonly1 person who claims to speak for me (Steve Montenegro)and my fellow workers, A. Romo and J. Aguilar is a fake and an imposter. Please do not associate any of his mentally challenged ramblings, with any of our programs and organizations.

In the past I have warned this person to cease and decease or else we would attemp to find out who he is, to sue him for defamation of character!

I warn you again factsonly1, CEASE AND DECEASE using my name in any of your comments or ignorant claims. We work strictly for the Lord and for the AA Messengers of Peace. People like you defame, disgrace, and ridicule the work we are trying to accomplish for the Lord.

As far as my job as a Representative of the Arizona State house, REFRAIN from using my name and status in this highly respected position. I'll be praying that God give you peace, and soundness of mind.

God Bless,
Rev. S. Montenegro

Factsonly1 said...

Cease and Decease? You want me to stop and die?

S. Montenegro said...

factsonly1 - Whatever YOU need to do to STOP using my name with you nonesense DO IT!!!!

Factsonly1 said...

Prophet Montenegro, you are my sunshine in this dark world. You bring me hope, that this world will be changed. I dream of a world where the apostolic doctrine is legalslated from the government. Where prayer is mandated in schools. Where Apostolic standard are brought to the work place. Where women are taught to dress in apostolic modesty. You have the power. You are a new generation of hope! Of apostolic might. You used the apostolic movement to get to your highplace among the heathen. You used the work of the Messengers of Peace to achieve great and mighty things! Please dont lose your apostolic ways! We must conquer this world against illegal aliens and islam. The power of the new apostolic church is with you my Prpohet!

Anonymous said...

Bro. Montenegro mil gracias!!!

Que tengan un buen tiempo en su convencion juvenil. God Bless!

S. Montenegro said...

factsonly1 - Read very carefully sir. I AM NOT YOUR SUNSHINE in this dark world. The Lord should bring you hope. You are sick sir. Please seek help or counsel in your local congregation, if you atted one.

Your ramblings are ONLY making the AA, and Messengers of Peace look bad. People are actually going to believe we have members like you in our midsts. YOU ARE NOT STABLE and NEED PSYCHOLOGICAL and SPIRITUAL HELP!!!

Your dream of a world where the apostolic doctrine is legislated from the government is a joke. Please DON'T joke about things like that. May the Lord have mercy on your soul. If you want prayer mandated in schools, start at home FIRST. Because they way you talk you sound like YOU NEED Alot of prayer yourself!

As far as Apostolic standard are concerned. Wake up and smell the coffee my friend, that's old legalistic news. I would really hate to meet you because you would probably make me sick (kind of what the pharisees did to Jesus).

As far as my generation, I would hope we don't have people like you, who make a mockery and a joke out of true Christianity.

I have NEVER used the apostolic movement to get to my highplace among the heathen, as you claim. I used my testimony as a man of integrity and sound mind. Which is something that CANNOT be said about you.

As far as losing my apostolic ways - Don't worry I believe I am stable as far as to what I believe! And one last thing, please don't speak trash about illegal aliens and islam. My fight IS NOT against flesh and blood, but against spitual forces that move and manipulate people like youself!

So again, for the last time, DO NOT USE OR ADDRESS MY NAME IN CONJUNCTION WITH YOUR LUNATIC RAMBLINGS. Thank you.

Rev. S. Montenegro

johny said...

Can anyone at convention fill us in as to the proceedings.. ?

Unknown said...

I heard that Republican Extremist Steve Montenegro is arriving today with Sheriff Arpio to deport all of the illegal aliens at the convention.

Everyone appearing to be Mexican will be pulled aside and have to prove they are a citizen.

But, this is just what I heard...

justice_will_prevail said...

update from the AA circus

they are reporting over 50,000 members in the mission field.

justice_will_prevail said...
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�Shane Showtime� said...

It's been a long time that they have held convention at Anaheim. Geez, I don't remember how long has it been. All I remember was on Sunday ditching church after convention for Disneyland. Funny thing was that I saw lots of the members there too.

Anyways, who's going?

Factsonly1 said...

Glory and Honor to the Lord! Im in Anaheim! This city is exploding with a great and might demonstration of the holy ghost!

All the great modern apostolic prophets are arriving. Revival of our church is now taking place! The city of anaheim will be won for the lord in the next few days!

Im looking to meet with the Tri-Unified Prophets. Hopefully Ill meet and break bread with them before we take to the streets to spread the gospel of the apostolic church!

Be prepared for a great and mighty uprising of the holy ghost!

Insiders tell me that Meg Whitman will be visiting. It would be a might work if Prophet Montenegro would take her to the alter after Prophet J2X preaches and wins her for the Lord in front of the tens of thousands that will be present at this convention.

I imagine that Prophet J2X will preach to many Hollywood Celeberties and win them for the Lord at the alter at the convention after Jaime Hernandez ministers in song!

I can vision Bishop Valverde ministering to Rick Warren and winning him to the apostolic church after a great and mighty message by Prophet Anthony Romo. Winning Rick Warren for the Lord would be a great and mighty thing for the Lord!

Glory and Honor! AMEN!

Anonymous said...

Aqui en la Convencion hay miles de hermanos. En la reunion de pastorla hay mas de 600 pastores.

El banquete de francisca esta sold out.....

No hay mas boletos para el banquete del presidente Sanchez sold out.....

porq said...

Apoco Padre Apodaca!?!? Ya veras el dia del Yum Kapoops van a llegar todos lo demas ansiosos de oir a Sanchito y al Nananjero y Napoleon confesar! ! ;) No hombre - nunca de los nunca esperanzas!!

Unknown said...

...Yes, lets celebrate Bro.President sanchez successes
as Apostolic President , let me
see there are so many :
...under Sanchez Presidency :
1. Several churches broke off
2. several high ranking bros.
such as Julian aguirre ,
Baldemar & jauhall were
kicked out
3. Assembly lost more than a
million in lawsuits
4. Valverde got yet more power
just like old PRI mexican
Presidents in past "el dedazo"
continues
5. Tithing has significantly
dropped under Sanchez watch
6. Assembly is on the verge of
insolvency "Bankruptcy"
7. Assembly acummulated too much
debt
8. All who were a threat to sanchez
and valverde were kicked out
a "religious Coup"
9. I left the assembly, or the
Assembly left me ( im still
a Christiann bloodbought by j )
10. Many weak brothers left the
Lord because of all the
inhouse bickering and
struggle for power
11. And still Sanchez gets
a farewell BANQUET !!!

Anonymous said...

Hay un hermoso espiritu en esta convencion. Al banquete del presidente Sanchez asistieron mas de 300 personas y se despidio.. con muchos aplausos.

Gracias a Dios, hasta el momento
no hay pertubacion o escandalo en la reunion pastoral.Todo esta
pacifico. Porque donde esta el Senor hay paz!

Old Cbg said...

El Padre - Que mentiroso eres, por eso nadie nos cree a cualquiera que hablamos por parte de la AA. No hay un hermoso espiritu en esta convencion, como tu dices. Andamos todos bien calladitos porque estamos observando a ver que ba a pasar, y porque se nos dijo que Sanchez tenia espias por todos lados.

Y que al banquete del presidente Sanchez asistieron mas de 300 personas y se despidio con muchos aplausos. QUE QUEEEEE????? No se a cual convencion estas asistiendo, pero los unicos que estubieron alli, fueron su familia, y aquellos que fueron forsados a estar alli! EL ambiente estaba tan tenso que lo podias cortar con un cuchillo.

Si, gracias a Dios que hasta el momento no hay pertubacion o escandalo en las reuniones pastorales. Pero es porque sabemos que Sanchez esta tan paranoico que planto oidos por todos lados para que se le informe lo que estamos diciendo! Se nos previnio todo esto cuando llegamos aqui el martes y miercoles.

Asi que Padre por favor para de mentir, porque estas dando mas causa para que sigan diciendo y criticando sobre la realidad de nuestra situacion. No necesitamos mentir para que la gente crea en nuestra organization. Reporta la VERDAD, y pidele a Dios, como todos nosotros que Dios limpie casa. AMEN!

Interested in Truth and Justice said...

To El Padre,

You are giving false information, yous said there were 600 pastor and thousands of people, then you said 300 attended the Good bye dinner for Sanchez. Wow , only 300 then if yo are saying the truth then there were not very many present to 'thank' Sanchez for all the destruction he and Valverde were responsible for.

If there were 600 pastor then there should have been at least 1200 in the banquet for Sanchez,

Don't give false information because the truth will come out. This convention will be a lot like the Texas convention when there were just a few, few hundred people present, more empyt seats than people.

ComingOut said...

TO ALL BLOGGER OF THE AA!!! Just remember, when they collect the offering every night this is what YOU are giving for:

D. Sanchez- $99,345 Base Salary
$52,257 Compensation
$151,602 TOTAL

(Presidents Salary: $99,345.00
House/Auto Saary: $24,000.00
Vacation Weeks: $ 5,351.00
Pension: $11,129.00
Health Insurance: $ 8,589.00
Dental: $ 420.00
Vision: $ 206.00
Life: $ 2,071.00
Funeral Plan: PAID
FICA Allowance: $ 7,095.00
TOTAL $151,602.00)

S. Valverde- $61,494 Base Salary
$30,284 Compensation
$91,778 TOTAL

E. Pacheco - $55,344 Base Salary
$15,731 Compensation
$71,075 TOTAL

L. Maffey - $55,344 Base Salary
$5,196 Compensation
$60,540 TOTAL

A. Espinosa- $51,655 Base Salary
$28,794 Compensation
$80,449 TOTAL

A. Aguilar - $51,655 Base Salary
$19,092 Compensation
$70,747 TOTAL

I. Martin - $51,655 Base Salary
Del Campo $21,992 Compensation
$73,647 TOTAL

V. Prado - $51,655 Base Salary
$22,862 Compensation
$74,517 TOTAL

NO LIE your hard earned money will go to cover these expenses. After all we're living in hard times. lol!!!

Anonymous said...

Precisamente todo esta callado y nadie dice nada. Por esta razon dijo que hay un buen espiritu. Y del banquete del presidente bueno siquiera hubo gente en su banquete que no? 300 out of 600 not bad huh.

Estoy aqui en el hotel usando la computadora.......... voy a lunch.

Interested in Truth and Justice said...

Mi padre, you said 300 attended was it only pastors? Left the wives out? So if there were 600 pastors and their wivesthat would be 1200.

And on your statement about pastors, how could there be 600 pastors when close to 200 have already left? It is best to state the truth. Do you realize that int the San Diego area alone over 20 30 have left?

You have supported people that have lied to God's people and while they are struggling to pay their debts the general board combined earned in the excess of 2 million dollars per year, and that's for only 8 people.

Anonymous said...

No sabes leer? dije 300 personas
no pastores..........al banquete.

Factsonly1 said...

Praise Report!

I just had lunch with a close friend of who works on the inside at HQ.

Bishops are praising President Sanchez and Vice Bishop Valverde for having the biggest demonic exocism in the history of the apostolic church!

As it turns out, the church was infested with demons who were inside many old pastors, ministers and members. Now what we are seeing is a church that has been cleansed! They say that all the demons went with the AWA and other organisatons.

Now that we are clean, be prepared to win a great and mighty harvest!

Ill report more later. I need to go win some souls for the lord before the night service!

Glory and Honor! Amen!

Interested in Truth and Justice said...

Mi Padre,

Yes, I did read it and thought at first that it was pastors, but now that you said it was just 300 people present then your report is more devastating than good, think about this, someone was in office for 8 years to have only 300 people show up? what kind of a praise report is that, it is laughable. By the way, I watched a few clips of the live streaming on line and you can hear a lot of echo which means that the auditorium is quite empty.

And to the one that made a comment about the bishops prasing sanchez and valverde for having the largest demonic exorcism, so now I know how to run the demons away "lie, cheat, take buildings away, take money away from God's people, tithe of the tithe, take over $2 Million dollars a year just for compensation (and that's only for 8 men), do whatever you can to step on others to get ahead, charge a widow of a bishop over 1300.00 for the programs at her husbands funeral, steal the churches money for their own personal gain (there is one general board member that left his church with nothing, $1 Million dollars gone, so if this is how you cast demons out then the real question should be, where are the demons really at? One more thing, is driving demons away; does it take taking money away from missionaries to keep it for themselves< is that how you cast demons out?

porq said...
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Factsonly1 said...

Reporting from Anaheim. This is a precious convention! All the mighty modern prophets are bringing the word. Thousands are being won for the Lord.

Thousands of saints are flocking from all over the world to be part of this great and mighty revival of the Lord!

The hall is packed out! Its standing room only!

Glory and Honor! Amen!

WatchOut! said...

So where are you Brother Factsonly?!

WatchOut! said...

That was rather "offering collection" was rather awkward wouldnt you say? Poor brother had to beg for a while, the people were squirming and coughing. I was embarrassed for him.

Apostolicowboy said...

Yeah General Board

I know you will read this...

Morning to you... demonic infidels.....enjoying other's people offering. whats with the "cast a spell on you" decorations... don't even want to think how much money you have spent, thrown around, and wasted meanwhile there are starving brethren around the world waiting for you to send them what belongs and promised to them by your flor azul deception project.

These infidels sit in their thousand dollar suits, with a gleem in their eyes watching brain washed hard working people bring their money for these infidels pleasures.

One day they will have to answer...
All crooks....... living off the saints....

Daniel Sanchez.... to you and your crooked blood brothers... one day all the saints will see how God will deal with all of you for deceiving God's children.

ApostoliCowboy....

�Shane Showtime� said...

Does anyone have any youtube links of the present Convention's offering moment? You know, the one where the minister conquers people's wallet and sell the gospel of prosperity.
People have to know that that kind of gospel does not exist when you are giving you money to people who use it for their personal will.

justice_will_prevail said...

i viewed portions of the stream last night, two things stood out... picking up the offering was way too long and only the bottom part of the arena was full.

If they took long to pick up the offering, they really must be hurting bad.

the days of the anaheim convention center as we use to know it back in the day are over.

Anonymous said...

Aqui estan las nuevas directivas de los departamentos:
Varones:
Presidente: Juan Serrano
Secretario: Marcelo Jimenez
Tesorero: Daniel Pacheco

Dorcas:
Presidenta: Linda Montes
Secretaria: Estela Perez
Tesorera: Rita Cedillo

Jovenes:
Presidente: Anthony Romo
Secretario: Omar Corttez
Tesorero: Steve Montenegro

Pues no salio la Francisca de presidenta, pues no que sanchez la iba poner fuera como fuera. Como ustedes dijeron aqui en el blog la francisca.

Desde la convencion general; ahora esperamos el nuevo el presidente general de nuestra amada asamblea.

Anonymous said...

Aqui estan las nuevas directivas de los departamentos:
Varones:
Presidente: Juan Serrano
Secretario: Marcelo Jimenez
Tesorero: Daniel Pacheco

Dorcas:
Presidenta: Linda Montes
Secretaria: Estela Perez
Tesorera: Rita Cedillo

Jovenes:
Presidente: Anthony Romo
Secretario: Omar Corttez
Tesorero: Steve Montenegro

Pues no salio la Francisca de presidenta, pues no que sanchez la iba poner fuera como fuera. Como ustedes dijeron aqui en el blog la francisca.

Desde la convencion general; ahora esperamos el nuevo el presidente general de nuestra amada asamblea.

justice_will_prevail said...

to el padre....

since you have the inside scoop, how many people actually were in the service last night hearing sanchez say bye-bye and the youth service?

so cal district man said...

the aa does not get it, they had problems with the dorcas treasurer back when elizabeth gonzalez (corpus christi) was the treasurer

ricky rodriguez (fort worth) wine, dined and got married using the jovenes fund

now you have two texans on the ladies group?

WatchOut! said...

Linda Montes? Isnt she the wife of Joel Montes who is no longer with the assembly?

WatchOut! said...

Texans just plain rock! They dont even have to be in the assembly or have their church in the assembly's name and they get elected to board positions!

WatchOut! said...

. . .and who cares if there's 300 or 600 ministers at convention. They only need TWO! The rest can go to Disneyland.

Factsonly1 said...

Praise Report!

Just had coffee with my friend who is an insider at HQ.

I cant let the cat out of the bag, but its safe to say that you will have a plesant suprise for you.

The Lord is doing great and mighty things in Anaheim! Souls are filling into the Hilton Hotel awaiting a great and might movement at tonights service!

All the great modern day prophets are here! J2X floated on to the pulpit last night in an awesome demonstration of the holy ghost!

Glory and Honor! Amen!

mira, mira said...

LA DESCALIFICADORA

ISMAEL MARTIN DEL CAMPO
ABEL AGUILAR
VICTOR PRADO
ROBERTO TINOCO
ARCADIO PENA

SE LE ACABO EL ROLLO A SAMUEL Y A EDUARDO?

johny said...

mira, mira, does that mean that is the new board?

mira, mira said...

NO ELLOS SON LOS QUE DICEN QUIEN CORRE O NO CORRE

ISMAEL MARTIN DEL CAMPO ES EL PRESIDENTE DE LA COMICION Y EL CEREBOR DE FAMOSO DOCUMENTO CID

AL RATITO REPORTAMOS QUIEN SALIO DE PRESIENTE POR ORITA ESTAN CORRIENDO

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Anonymous said...

Divine Strength Apostolic Center

AWA Regional Convocation

1521 S. Riverside Ave
Rialto, Ca 92376
www.dsac.biz

Friday October 8th 7:00 PM
Pastor Juan Campos

Saturday October 9th

10AM to 12PM : Youth Songfest

10AM to 12PM : Frank Esquibel

1:30 to 2:30 : Ignacio Leon

5:00PM : Abel Torres

Factsonly1 said...

The power of the holy ghost is coming down here in Anaheim!

Glory! Glory! Glory! Glory!

Now is the time for your backslidden bloggers to repent!

Now is the time for your backslidden bloggers to return to the apostolic church!

Now is the time for you backslidden bloggers to be refilled with the power and might of the holy ghost!

Now is the time for you backslidden bloggers to return to the fire of the holy ghost!

FUEGO!!!!!!!!

Glory and Honor! Amen!!

Interested in Truth and Justice said...

I am convinced that Facts 1 only is either palying around or has a few screws loose.

I am no longer paying attention to him.

There are two Linda Montes, one with a Z and the other ends with an S. The one that was elected is not from Texas.

Factsonly1 said...

Return to the Lord!!!

Get in on this mighty demonstration of the holy ghost in Anaheim!

The fire is coming down from heaven!

The flood gates of blessings are pouring on Anaheim!

Glory and Honor! Amen!

mira, mira said...

A UNA LINDA LE GUSTAN LAS DONUTS Y A LA OTRA LE GUSTA LA MALTA

CUAL ES CUAL

WatchOut! said...

Who is Robert Tinoco?

WatchOut! said...

I wonder if they'll have to have a recount on the votes. One, Two. . . again One, Two. And Two Votes has it! Again.

mira, mira said...

PRESIDENTE SAMUEL VALVERDE

WatchOut! said...

SO NOW THE AA HAS GONE TOTALLY TO POT!

when the ones in the running were espinoza, prado & valverde it was like NO CHOICE IS A GOOD CHOICE!

mira, mira said...

ASTA LAS OTRAS PIZCAS MIS COMPAS

A DIOS

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WatchOut! said...

I was so hoping for change . . . didnt happen. So pitiful for AA. Going AWA. So long.

WatchOut! said...

I was so hoping for change . . . didnt happen. So pitiful for AA. Going AWA. So long.

Anonymous said...

So the same old musical chairs business once again.

Is anyone really surprised ?

johny said...

No surprise, about SV..
I have heard? that he has a "New Doctrine" for the church. that the idea of Velo's and women wearing dresses all the time are out the door.. if he had hair he would be in support of men dying his hair..
Heard he has a set of vid's that will be peddled to the pastors.. any truth to it.. ?

porq said...

So, no surprise to so many of us- that the man of sin, deception, power & greed has been revealed.
Pastors, now is the time to run or disembark on
your owm from this corporation. Little Samuel, is now going to rule w/ an iron fist! He's going to make/enforce that all pastors and even ALL members who do not pay tithes will be thrown out of that corrupt organization. I warn you ok!

Hermanos pastores es tiempo de salir y desligarse de esta organizacion corupta. Samuelito Dame Masverde, les va exigir a todos los miembros y a todos los pastores de que si no dan sus diezmos y ofrendas y las quotas que los va a expulsar de sus iglesias y la membresia de esa corporacion!!
Les Doy Aviso!!

Dice el apostol Pablo, que en estos ultimos dias
la maldad, avaricia, se multiplicara, y el amor de muchos se enfriara. Salgan, y el Señor los va a sostener y proveer todas sus necesidades. DlB

Factsonly1 said...

Praise the Lord Church!

We are now in a new dispensation! Bishop President Valvderde will lead us to mighty and great things in the Lord!

Anaheim is being converted for the lord! Thousands upon thousands are flocking to the convention center!

A great and mighty move of the holy ghost is coming down!

Fire from heaven in this new dispensation!

Glory and Honor! Amen!

Anonymous said...

Presidente Sam Valverde; Raquelito mas dinero..............

Vice-Presidente Juan Fortino.

Anonymous said...

Solo la planta de abajo se lleno;
1mil a 1.5 mil hermanos.

Unos cuantos mas que la ultima convencion general en Texas.

The_End_is_Near said...

Johny
PLUS+++++++++

Having chon chon on the side.
Steal from the poor to give to the rich.(oh thats already happening)
Maybe making divorce alright. (since he probably wants to get rid of Rachel.)
Change the title of President to KING.
Outlaw any Pastors that are taller then Eddie.

More to come!

The_End_is_Near said...

mira mira

La Presidenta elect
Linda de Fresno le gustan mucho las donuts, and whatever else is not nailed to the frig.
So now besides flor money going to the board, most of the money will have to be used to keep la Linda supplied with donuts.

johny said...

Any info on the rest of the New GB?

Apostolic Old Timer said...

Look in the AA website for new board members

. said...

Newly elected board


Bishop Pres. Sam Valverde

VP Juan Fortino

Victor Prado

Abel Aguilar

Leobardo Ma

Martin Del Rancho

Arturo Espinoza

?????

.............................

Hey, I thought it said Newly Elected???

This should say, "Appointed Again."

. said...

A little after the excommunications that took place, I stated on this blogg that Juan Fortino was a RAT! Some of you rebuked me for my statement, now you'll eat you're words. I stand by what I said. Good by for good AA, the AA is going to hell in a ham basket!

Unknown said...

Someone should have your son marry Misty Malvede. Become part of the Royal Family...

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gunter said...

The AA is one big joke. Lol Did you all really think that they were going to be run off. They only trade seats so they can all keep there salaries. To support their legitmate familes and all the quetionable familes. They were never going to be taken down they only made all these statements prior to convention. Becausa the AA has become nothing but a den of theives and corupt politicians. lol.

The most funniest part of it all is that most of you AA er's Complain but never changed when you all had a chance. Sounds like AA that is the same initials as Acholics anonymous but then again that is what many of you all are. Drunk on emotion after emotion. Same prophetic word every year next year is going to get better.

Please I hear more prophecy from the government that the AA preachers.

The_End_is_Near said...

Look for Eddie's picture on the last of the newly elected board members.

This guys have too much on each other and know all the wrongs they have done together.

So they all appionted themselves again.
What can sammy do. they know all the wrongs he has done, so sure he made sure they were on the board again/

Dont't be surprise if a special PAID position is created for Sanchez.

gunter said...

My bad got a little trigger happy there but we should be done to just one instead of 5.

The_End_is_Near said...

Wow did I shoot myself in the foot.
Joe Prado for the last board postion.
What happen to Eddie?

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Who was the guy who tried to take the mic away from jeff aguilar????took about 20 guys to escourt him off the platform!?!?!?!

so cal district man said...

fyi

joe prado was one of the seven counselors that sanchez consulted before the plaintiffs were kicked out. joe gloated and boasted that he participated in that ouster, now he joins the official club now.

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. said...

they're dancing for the victory, because they get to keep their pay checks....don't worry about lil. eddy, he will be well taken care of...

cbg said...

Word is here in Anaheim, that the guy who tried to take the mic away from jeff aguilar, before the service started was going to expose something about the election AGAIN!!!!!

johny said...

Valverde's reign will have the poor brother in Jail before the night is out more then likely.

WatchOut! said...

I hear they threw Fortino a bone just to keep things from blowing up.

Doesnt valverde realize what a laughingstock he is. Guess he doesnt care with that big fat check he'll be getting. Y'all keep on supporting his fancy lifestyle.

Interested in Truth and Justice said...

Being president or on the General Board does not have the prestige that it once had. Remember that Juan Fortini was on the 'black list' then they tempted him with the position to become the vice president of the organization that was supposed to be based out of Texas but never happened after the trickery was exposed, now he accepted another 30 pieces of silver for a position.

Bro. Fortino why did you fall for it again?

It's time to leave.......... Why no one has said anything about standing up for truth I will never understand. There is no more integrity.

Anonymous said...

A noche estuvo de maravilla 75% del
salon de convencion estaba lleno.

Pero las cosas seguiran como siempre, nada a cambiado...solo las sillas!!!

Al Gore said...

Adolph Sanchez thinks he fooled everyone. Now that is a funny one. Many Pastors left saying it wasn't as bad as 2006. They said it is worse. Sanchez arranged it so it wouldn't look bad on himself no Valverde. Peña, Brownnoser Prado, and Pinochio allowed the disqualification of Fortino for nomination for President, but allowed him to run for VP. Everybody could see through that. I heard that a 5 year old boy was passing by and he asked why Fortino was manipulated that way. I thought that was kind of funny. Valverde made a scapegoat of his cousin. The Re-Fixed ELECTIONS OF 2010.

Al Gore said...

The AA will continue its downward spiral with Valverde at the helm. Maffeo already said that the AA is broke. What else is new with the AA?

cbg said...

The guy who was trying to get the mic from Jeff was Richard. He was trying to find the restrooms, but no one would tell him so he got worried and jumped on stage to ask on the mic. He didn't want to moved because he was trying to hold it in.

gunter said...

Yall need to stop this he said she said or I heard or was told crap. If u weren't there in person shut up n leave it alone. I know u will still be bitter on what has happened...if n e of it was true, let go and let.God handle it. U all obviously do not know how to rely on God..just get over it and move on with ur lives.

cbg said...

Wow! AWA convention about 1000 people only. But heard that many who left joined the AA convention almost full. Actions speak louder than words right?

gunter said...

To cbg.....
Looks to me the justice has been good do far....

Anonymous said...

Y sigue el BOXEO:

Nada va cambiar en la AA Inc. Siguen las demandas..........

Valverde heredo una situacion critica; una iglesia enferma.Mas bien la enfermo...............

Con los abrazos de a noche no es suficiente para una sanidad completa. Lo vi en el internet. Bonito espiritu por esa noche. Pero que de los meses en adelante o
los proximos anos. Ya se vera!!!

Anonymous said...

Hay trucha; Gracias a Dios que nos bendijo, tuvimos un glorioso servicio.

Si trucha, hubo muchos pero muchos abrazos........Presidente Valverde nos trajo un buen sermon.

Hay problemas que resolver. Dentro de pocos dias nos daremos cuenta de
que cosas hay que cambiar o no cambair.

De las elecciones bueno que dire?
Como dije solo cambiaron de sillas!

gunter said...

.

I heard that the AA convention was only 2500 so actions are not that much louder. Also most pastor's said it was only a 1/4 of what you all used to have.

So ask your Pastor's to stop contradicting what you say.

Unknown said...

Was I surprised about Valverde
and the elections, yes, I sincerely
believed that the old board which is now really the same board for
the next 4-6 years was going to step down AND THEY DIDN'T !!!

WOE, WOE, WOE IS US !!!
we have sinned and that is why God has delivered us to terrible leaders who rob and mislead
his flock as in the days of
old when the terrible kings of
Israel did the same to the hebrews
...Really, you expect Valverde to UNDO what HE CAUSED IN THE
FIRST PLACE ???
Valverde has been the black apostolic pope for years, he has
been working in the Assembly for as long as i can remember some
20 years now !!!
...Is this a CONSPIRACY ???
...I personally knew Sanchez and Valverde, they created this mess to begin with !!!

Factsonly1 said...

The Lord has restored and growed the beloved church of the great and mighty prophets.

Im amazed that Prophet Valverde only had twenty minutes to prepare such an awesome message last night!

The lord moved mightly and greatly! The Last Great Revival has some to the apostolic assembly!

Glory and Honor! Amen!

cbg said...

2500 people on stage and floor alone. 6846 on the chairs. The arena holds 7500 total on seats. I know, i helped with registration and actions do speak louder than words. Besides,hearing from someone will get you nowhere. You must do more and speak less.

Interested in Truth and Justice said...

To the person that was registering, you should not attempt to lie, it just makes the AA look worse.

The AA will become no more, sanchez? Valverde, pacheco, espinoza, prado, aguilar destroyed whatever final hope of it's continued existence.

And shames on the pastors and bishops for letting this happen, oh by the way, valverde boasts about the membership of his church but I have a question, do you call it growth when you are taking members from other churches? That doesn't sound like growth to me.

cbg said...

We must help the lost regaurding our situation. Men will fall in our assembly just as moses did, but the people will continue to the promise land if not our children will. We are God's chosen people whether satan likes it or not, perfect or wrong board. I have everyone of you here in my prayers for strength, miracles, and blessings to your lives.

Unknown said...

It appears that the entire
convention in anaheim this past week was just to elect Fortino
as vice president , there were no
other surprises everyone else
just got moved up this includes
Valverde.....

Valverde you preached fire and brimstone when you preached to us about the example of Ananias and Sapphira lying to the church and to the holy spirit, then you do
worse by lying to the church and to the holy spirit by fixing the
elections to keep your cousin
Pacheco in power !!! shame on
you Valverde !!!
.....Please do not have the audacity of claiming divine protection, you are NOT a PROPHET
GOD gave gifts to men, you may
have the gift of administration and leadership and of a Pastor,
but it ends there you are NOT a Prophet, I forgive you for what you have done to me and to the
Assembly but it is you who must
confess your sin to all the brothers that you have hurt on your
way up to power ( I know of many )
....Please don't claim to say that you will fix everything for you
more than anyone else in the
General Board has been working in
the General Offices and you were
the CHIEF person culpable of all
the DIVISION in the Assembly to
begin with...
....And PLEASE don't say that GOD
put you and gave you that seat
in the assembly it would be like a
dictator saying that GOD puit him in power, the truth is that
dictators get in power and stay in power by BACKSTABBING and doing
away with their enemies like you did to your old boss Baldemar Rodriguez and various others.....
.....Even your relative Erik
Rangel knows the truth about you Sam, thats one of the reasons why
he broke away from you and the Assembly and I respect Bro.Erik for that
.....I don't which you evil, in fact I feel sorry for you
and I will pray for you for the bible teaches us to pray for those
who are our enemies and who despitely use us...

cbg said...

Hello guys. Dang i know how it is to give up a close friend to continue Gods work. Sorry that happened. Im sure your bishops will continue to serve god in their lives. Let's ask ourselves one question, not to someone else, to ourselves, "What have I done for GOD alone?" Our bishops, pastors, or organizations will not save us only Jesus Christ can.

unhe2 said...

Paz de Cristo, Que cosas no, como que los resultados no nos sorprendieron a muchos, esto se esperaba, pues el testimonio de estos individous ya lo anunsiaba de antemano. nosotros como humanos quisieramos ver visto que El Senor viera hecho justicia de acuerdo a nuestros sentimientos danados por la acciones de los directivos pero no nos queda otra mas que acceptar la realidad y confiar que al final de nuestro caminar se cuplira su palabra, que tendremos que dar cuenta de nuestras obras sean buena o malas, es ahi dende la justicia de Dios se vera. Encuanto a nosotros no nos queda otra mas que enamorarnos mas de Dios y seguir en su camino, endonde queira que vivamos. Los hombres siempre le fallaremos pero Cristo si es Fiel por simepre Amen, GB.

Interested in Truth and Justice said...

The small hope of healing for the assembly would have been possible is Sam Valverde would not have run or accepted the position.

Isn't it a double standard to say that God may have had a say in this election when the previous two elections were fixed, Jimmy Carter should have been sent in to police the elections.

Now it's convenient to say that God placed him and the other General Board members there.

For 8 years Daniel sanchez and Sam valverde have been allows to destroy a good organization with mo checks and balances. Those that dared speak up were black balled and either considered out or not recognized any longer, you men that first spoke out, most of you caved in to the pressure of losing earthly things and those of you that never said anything just stood by and let it happen, that why close to 200 pastors have left and many more will continue to leave.

Daniel sanchez, Sam valverde and the ones that just stood by and those that caved in will answer one day as to why they allowed wrong to continue.

Sam valverde, you should step down fir the good of the AA becuase people view you as a representative of the past and a man that yearned for more power and look at what you have now, an almost bankrupt organization with very little trust of the general body. Of course, those that will be around you will be the same type of spirit, just to enhance their own agenda,

it is not a new day for the AA but a day that will start the downspun spiral of what was once a great Assembly.

So when you hear these men 'praise and recognize' others don't be tricked becuase it is only for their own benefit.

gunter said...

You mean you only had 7000 after a hundred years that is a joke. The AWA had a thousand in three the only actions that I am hearing from that is you all need to do a better job at evangilizing lol.

cbg said...

Lie? Check out the services on youtube. I watched the AWA's and those 1000 are the same ones who CHOSE to leave, most of them DECIDED to come back on their own. I guess they got tired of people talking bad and pointing out mistakes from other people.

cbg said...

And you, my brother, need to do a better job making sense and spelling words correctly.

gunter said...

There is always 3 sides to a story... yours, theirs and the truth....

Factsonly1 said...

The apostolic church lives! We have dismissed from the great convention and blessed with an awesome and mighty word from the great modern prophets!

My sources on the inside HQ, tell me that the board is planning to have the convention next year in Phoenix at the US Airways Arena where they are expecting a capacity crowd!


Praises be to the Lord!

Glory and Honor! Amen!

cbg said...

Heck ya! Pheonix! I like! I like!

gunter said...

I am still in high school what is your excuse.

gunter said...

So your biggest come back is picking on my grammer. Man you AA people sure are critical thinkers sarcasim intende lol. Don't get to mad because I stepped on your toes.

Factsonly1 said...

You can thank the mighty Prophet Steve Montenegro!

He has major connections on the high levels of society and government!

Do you think its just a coinsicdance that our church is on the rise?

The lord is moving greatly and mightly!


Glory and Honor! Amen!

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gunter said...

Facts only when you are rising up and not just living on someone else's accomplishment then I will take you serious. Since you only live on what others do. It is no wonder why you all so blindly follow. You have nothing that you bring to the plate. That is a problem stop being a stocker and accomplish something for yourself.

Also do you go to his church because you said ya'll's church? You can only claim to be from someone’s church if you actually are a member there. So stop make such a sensationalist claim.

I actually like Steve he is a good person and his father's church is on the rise but yours not so much. I am just saying

Factsonly1 said...

Gunter, I rebuke your spirit of jelousy! I rebuke your evil spirit of divisiness!

From now on, I recommend you refer to him as Prophet Montenegro. He's a mighty and great modern prophet of our time!

The apostolic movement is rising up!

Glory and Honor! Amen!

gunter said...

LOL.

Again Steve is a good person. I am not jealous of him he deserves what he has he worked hard for it. I remember him telling me about it.

I was excited for him.

You on the other hand. Not that impressed.

gunter said...

Did again you are refering to Pentecostals and all apostolics when you say the apostolic move is on the rise.

There is a Pastor that has more members in 34 years than you all have in a hundred years. He has over 5,000 members all alone. Just in his building not to mention the other four churches he opened up and this is just one man. You all have a collected 7,000 people. Your current President is familar with him because he uses all his material and calls it His own inspiration. lol

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