Wednesday, December 16, 2009

***UPDATE*** RESOLUCION DE PLAN DE ACCION y MAYORDOMIA

***Below you will are the sample closing docs for the Montebello church property....
















Attached is the link to the Plan of Action and Stewardship sent to Apostolic Assembly pastors both in english and espanol.

For your review....
Click here for: RESOLUCION DE PLAN DE ACCION y MAYORDOMIA

Click here for: Montebello Closing Documents
As noted..."The bank charged for the cost of the loan. Then, the AA Inc,(A Non Profit 501c3 Religeous Organization) added its fees. The AA Inc. is neither registered with the Department of Real Estate nor the Department of Corporations, which allows for charging of fees in a loan".


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The_End_is_Near said...

I heard that Jason will be going to Fountain of Lies in Fontana to pray so the Python can walk upright like all snakes did before they were cursed in the Garden Of Eden!

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enriquea said...

the AA in Houston is in revival ( east texas)

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SLJ said...

Wise man said:
"Never trust a holy man with more than one suit"

" They ask for money for the Lord, but give you their own address!

SLJ said...

" they ask for you to plant your seed, only thing is that your seed is being planted in their own back yards!

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SLJ said...

" They will take $100, $500 and even $1,000 out of their right pocket to put in the offering basket to show that they give, Only thing is that afterwards they take it out and put it in their left pocket."
Plus what everybody else put in!

enriquea said...

the truth:
Who's they?

west2east said...

I'm new to this site..... I'm new to this WHOLE mess. By that I mean the AA. I wasn't aware about half of the stuff that is happening. I knew about bros. getting kicked out of the assembly because of the lawsuit but I wasn't aware what all was regarding. I've been able to learn some stuff reading some past post but its too much. It seems that the problem lies in the HQ. By what I have read. A little about myself. I live in the east coast and I'm saddened by what is happening out in the west coast. I'm originally from the west but moved with my parents yrs ago. I currently attend a church ran by the AA. I'm proud to be baptized in the name but I don't like all this stuff that the board is doing. Its wrong, unethical and most importantly un-christian like. I'm not trying to defend the those people. I thank God that hasn't yet affected our local church or sector. But I'm sure at due time it will. Galatians 5:9 reads "A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump." I guess all we can do for now is pray. Is there anything that is being done over there? I have so many things that I want to ask and a lot of things that I'm having a hard time believing, but its because I never thought people "brothers, men of God or whatever you want to call them" would be so corrupt.......

west2east said...

On another note, someone mentioned about the aguilars inc. I had some questions about that. I attended the j2x in NY in May. Now I remember telling one of my friends "isn't this event an AA event?" He said yes. I responded "How come there are no AA logos or names or anything like that." And all I remember was that on a pamphlet they gave as everyone was walking in, was that the AA was under the sponsors. So is that mean that Christian tabernacle is its own entity out of the AA or are they planning to split? Cause things just don't add up.

Unknown said...

Yes, Santa Ana church has
for years been doing that
they have always been ready to split from the AA if Aguilar didnt
get a big position in the AA
other denominations wouldnt tolerate that you are either with us 100%
or independent, I wouldnt be surprised if Aguilar had all his
church properties under a different
Corporation

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Unknown said...

Wow it's amazing how you can start a business without any tax liabilities or payroll because you have all these churches working for the "missionary" funds under the AA., then just hand all that money to the Inc. , side that only takes the money which is in no way associated with AA. I believe you call this " conflict of interest" . Dad is with AA and flips the bill for son's Inc. Business.

. said...

West o east

Are you gay? don't you know that only jotos go to j2x...word of advice for you, RUN! RUN FOR YOUR LIFE! because the aa will only get you to hell......worst is you have to pay your way to get in.

Unknown said...

Levitating to a church near you...lol

Unknown said...

Seriously, the Aguilars have made a circus out of church. From trying to walk on water, to jumping on pulpits, to Jaime getting freeky, to the boys exploiting the choir for their financial benefit.

Anonymous said...

Bro. Abel Aguilar y sus hijos ya tienen una Corporacion. Se dice.

Esa Corporacion se formo el dia 5 de Agosto 2010

Si una persona en California puede
sacar los documentos de Sacramento para saber si es cierto.

Anonymous said...

Bro. Abel Aguilar y sus hijos ya tienen una Corporacion. Se dice.

Esa Corporacion se formo el dia 5 de Agosto 2010

Si una persona en California puede
sacar los documentos de Sacramento para saber si es cierto.

Unknown said...

its public information
check out the California Secretary of State Department.

Do your own search and it is there.
Entity number c3312606
agent jason aguilar
address 309 n main st.

west2east said...

So what happens now? Do they ride the AA to get everything they want out of it. And then when times get rough within the AA they just split and then they can do whatever they want. What's the point of becoming a separate entity? Does anyone know? What's the upside? Cause I think once they split won't they have more responsibilities as a corporation. Again, I think they'll ride the AA as long as they can, then when its time they'll jump ship. How they do get away with it? Do other people just don't care or do they just don't know?

Unknown said...

No liabilities on worker..... I mean volunteers. No taxes to pay. Open missionary account. Free travel"para la obra" of course.

The_End_is_Near said...

Free Travel
Free Dining
Free Lodging
Not just for yourself, but for the whole family,

Oh pero es para la obra.

BOLA DE BANDIDOS

Unknown said...

Finally someone hit the nail on the head. Thank you Basta.

The_End_is_Near said...

Don't forget about family being put on the AA payroll.
I hear even prime seats to the Lakers game.

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Anonymous said...

one difference AWA directors aren't take millions and scamming people from there organization. I don't think Bishop Torres would say that anyways.

. said...

Oh and we are supposed to take you're word for it? The awa like the aa is hurting already, so they'll take anything, even a RATA!

Anonymous said...

Miren, vengase con nosotros los (Bautistas) con el Dr. ED Young en
Houston o cualquier iglesia baustista donde usted vive.

Anonymous said...

.,

so you'll take APAR-I-CIO word on it then?

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Unknown said...

Was anyone at the service years ago where Jason Aguilar tried walking on water . . . and fell in? LOL!

And what's up with the over 2000 comments on this blog? Is this site not being monitored or updated anymore?

. said...

Joe, I was talking to Aparozio or whatever his name is....lol

west2east said...

Thanks for the insight on the advantage of becoming a corporation but as I read it I couldn't help to notice there isn't much difference if they went off and started their own "franchise." Cause all the free travel, dining, lodging, lies and everything else they already get away with. There wouldn't be much difference than what they would do if they ran the show themselves. Just free reign to do whatever they want, whenever they want (and whomever they want. Lol) Can you say 'tax-free second income'?

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west2east said...

I dont mean to insult anyone, but is the AWA a knock-off version of the AA? Is it the same everything? Or what are the differences?

johny said...

Blogger west2east said...

I dont mean to insult anyone, but is the AWA a knock-off version of the AA?
YOU CAN FIND MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE WHOLE MESS AT THE LINK BELOW
west2east

http://apostolicassembly.info/

Unknown said...

RE: People v Maffey

Case Number: 08SF0904

Ladies and Gentlemen, Jury Trial has been scheduled to begin February 28, 2011. 8:30am

west2east said...

Thanks for the info johny. I wasn't aware that there was more to this WHOLE MESS and that it had started years ago. It seems so surreal, well atleast for me, that something like this would happen. I'm not saying I don't believe it. Theres a lot a proof. And I can certainly see how it happened. A person's greed for power and money. So what happens now? Four more years of this? Do bros and sis in other churches not aware of what is happening? I live in the east coast and there isn't a lot of mainstream about the AA as a whole. We are a small church and most of us aren't aware of events and stuff that happens. We have to find any info online. And that's how I stumbled onto this page, while trying to find out who had been elected president. Then it turns out the WHOLE board is corrupt.

Unknown said...

I believe that it is time as the bible tells du as the body of Christ in Psalms 37:7-9. Be still in the presence of the Lord
And wait patiently for him to act. Don't worry about evil people Who prosper or fret about their wicked schemes. Stop being angry! Turn rom your rage! Do not lose your temper-it only leads to harm. For the wicked will be Will be destroyed, but those who trust in the Lord will posses the land. Have faith good people, we have to stick together as the body of Christ. Without the body, the head is nothing. It's time to unite do good to those that are truly
In need. It's time to
Be a one on one blessing to our brothers and sister
And the world.

johny said...

west2east:,
There is corruption in many organization, political, religious, and otherwise. There will always be men and women that seek their own gain. Even in the Israel of the bible, but God does mention a remnant, a set-aside people, many are the called but few are the chosen,
There is a revival in many parts of the world today, God is bringing revelation to many of differing faiths.
It seems like for years now, the AA, has been pulling away from it's core beliefs, when someone talks about revival, healing, dreams, prophetic word (not those of the Aguilars), but true prophetic word, their are those that say, you must be careful, test the spirits.. be careful..
But God is moving in many ways.. not matter what some in the AA believe.
You keep strong and in the power of HIS might. not all in the AA are corrupt, there are some that seek to take the word to the lost. and take everything that is said here with a grain of salt.

johny said...

and let us thank God for those individuals that shed light into the corruption.. it's not a new thing, if you read back far enough you will read about it from the beginning.
but thank God for people that still hold up the truth..
Even some that have been kicked out of the AA, they have done things they thought was right for the good of the AA, but contrary to the Word.

SLJ said...

Also the G-12 plan of the AA has done more damage than good.
We went from Tuesday bible study and prayer and Thursday worship service and Sunday School and Sunday worship to just Sunday worship service. And share groups on tuesday, which are done in church, cuase only like 10 or so go.
The Pastor wonders where all the people have gone too.
Where?
As far away as they can get!
We're down to 15 members and still losing some.
2 years ago I informed the Bishop of us losing members because of present administration, and was told that that Pastor was "THE MAN OF GOD" not a man of god but "THE MAN OF GOD".


WHAT'S UP BOBBY BOY?

Unknown said...

Pastors need to attend their flock instead of making the $$$$$$ by traveling to get that extra income. The sheep are dying and fleeing while the pastors are fishing in the
Sea. Pastors! Take care of the flock at your
Church instead of trying to build riches for yourselves.

SLJ said...

The sheep are dying and some have been told to get the flock out!

Or some Pastor like ours like to attend to other Pastor's flock instead of his own.

His own members are dying in the hospital, but not a visit.
but if your from somebody else's church he is there come rain or shine.




What's up Bobby. come on out of hiding!

johny said...

hey truth,
They still haven't done anything about that pastor?

Anonymous said...

Nothing has been done nor will it ever be done.

The Assembly is infamous for sweping things under tha rug and removing those who do not agree with the Mob tactics.

Leaving is the only option if you are a person of integrity !

How can you stay in The A.A. after knowing ?

SLJ said...

Nope sorry to say we just lost 3 more members, but according to him he has 55 members. I only counted 15 that are left.

Sad,
sad,
sad

Unknown said...

PTL i was wondering if anyone has a list of AWA churches i heard there over hundred now

SLJ said...

Election Day!
Don't you wish you could vote out all the bad Bishops and Pastors that don't do anything, but lurk out for their salaries and love offerings.

johny said...

http://apostolicassembly.info
Looks like this site has been pulled?

ComingOut said...

Hey Johnny, my incide source (family member) told me Art Tafoya had apostolicassembly.info removed because Sam Valverde told him he would reconsider his return to the AA if he did him that favor.

Go figure, Art Tafoya meets with Sam Valverde (AA) a month or so after he meets with Abel Torres (AWA). I wonder what's going on with Bishop Tafoya? Hhhhmmmmm.

johny said...

Art Tafoya is such a slim, playing ball on both sides, it doesn't surprise me, I remember when he was peddling his ugly daughter's cd.. using he Bishop power to sell them.
but is it surprising.. misses the free meals.
So far no letters from SV, or are there out there?

tejano said...

wow...it really is gone?

Is there anybody out there that kept the files on their pc's?

SLJ said...

Well you what they say
"Rats of a feather stick together"

SLJ said...

Pastor Day???
Why do people choose to have Pastor's Day?
I can see when he has done a good job and the church has prospered.
But when he has done nothing and we have lost 90 percent of our members due to his lack of Pastorship skills.
What are you going to say.
We honor the Pastor for the great job he has done. Over the ten years he has been here the church has gone broke due to the loss of members.
Its all a mockery that the AA has made up to honor themselves, and to get more money out of already money short members.
The assistant went as far as to say'You do for the Lord"
I said yeah right!
It all goes to the Pastor's back pocket and God is left there with his hands empty.
This is not for you Pastors that are doing a good job. A good Pastor is worth his weight in Gold and much more, but don't try to shove your bad pastors on us with the " your doing it for Lord: and the most famous of all lines.

" God's anointed man of GOD"
If he is so anointed why have all the members left.
To bad the Bishop didn't want to hear the truth 2 years ago when I brought it up or we wouldn't be in the mess we are in.

Come on Bobby Boy defend you buddy Now!

Unknown said...

Totally agree! They do need to do away with pastor day. Did Jesus ever have a messiah day? I am sure if the disciples wanted to honor him with a day of gifts and money, he would not take it. He would tell them to give to the sick, the poor, the widow, etc. But the pastors just pull out the hand and k just take money after money after money with no remorse. They get paid for the
Work they are doing. Church members that donate
Their time after a hard days work then go work para la obra are the one's that need to recognized.

AA Pastor said...

State law requires that employers(AA) must have workers' compensation insurance for their employees(Pastor's), and submit payroll records showing the number of employees and their income. This information helps determine workers' compensation insurance rates.

Premium insurance fraud is committed when an employer(Sam Valverde) intentionally misrepresents the number of employees, the type of work performed, the amount of payroll, and the loss history.

Unknown said...

They are not pastors are not plotted because they don't want to be put on payroll. They request 1099 forms. That way they are not considered employees
But sub contractors and they don't have to pay all that tax.

SLJ said...

aapastor:

Who do you contact to start a formal investigation into this matter?
It's time to start cleaning out the rat infested organization.
Instead of running away (and I don't blame people for leaving)
we should fight to get all the thugs out.

SLJ said...

So can we as members fired a sub contractor?
One who has been here for 10 years and done nothing.

Unknown said...

I don't think u can fire them. Perhaps we can request from Corp if the pastors should be in current payroll as employees. I do know that if they are sub contractors they should not get any retirement benefits that the church puts funds away for there account. Pastors only
Want to reap all the benefit without paying the
Piper. The only one paying money, to uncle Sam, offerings, 10% and labor are the members. Who wouldn't want a career as a pastor. Because now a days that is all it is........ A career.

AA Pastor said...

If headquarters can fire a pastor then the pastor is considered an employee.

Interested in Truth and Justice said...
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Interested in Truth and Justice said...

This is the answer to your question when comparing the AA to AWA.

1. With AWA there is no chance of financial greed

2. With AWA there is no chance of greed for power

3. With AWA there is no chance of the church being required to pay fees, tithe of tithes, or at least 15 different financial requirements that the local church must pay to the sector, district, national or to the general board.

4. With AWA the property belongs to the local church

5. With AWA they will offer you advice and support to help build your church ministry or help with concerns that are going on in the local church

6. With AWA the local church is not required to attend functions

7. With AWA the brothers meet together for great fellowship, I know because I recently attended the Northern California Regional Conference and the conference was packed and I thought if this is a representative of the brethern that have left the AA then the AA is surely on it's way to become a non-important organization.

8 With AWA you don't have the feeling of trying to out do someone else.

9. With AWA you can attend their services and not be judged

10. With AWA there is no General Board that dictates to the pastors what they can or cannot do, the Directors are there only to help guide and support the work of the Lord.

11. With AWA they don't charge you to get in.

12. With AWA you have the freedom to expand your ministry as the Lord leads you.

The above represent 12 of many things that can be pointed out on the difference between the AA and AWA which has resulted in the growth of over 160 churches in less than a two year span and I am aware of at least 19 additional churches that will be leaving AA to join the AWA fellowship.

Hope this answers your question and has given you some insight as to why you should consider joining AWA or some other fellowship.

The AA has changed to what is was once intended to do and has no appearance that it will return back to the basic principles. It 'boils' down this, a handful of men that are able to dictate the direction of an organization, that does not sound like Theocracy to me, it has more of feel of communism or socialism form of government. Don't take my word for it, study and figure out on your own, the truth will always stand.

Thank you for your time,

Nathaniel Ramirez

Interested in Truth and Justice said...

I never thought that I would see the day when people would ignore wrongs, be hesitant to speak up for the truth and afraid of a minority of people. I totally believe that if a pastor or bishop will not say anything then they are cowards and should resign their position, I guess they feel that they have too much to lose.

I was amazed to read Bishop Jauhall's letter and then to see them 'trip over themselves' to say good things at the funeral, to some bro Jauhall may have been wrong in some things but he was not wrong to call these men out.

I also noticed when Daniel sanchez walked to the platform that Sam valverde was informed but made no move to recognize Daniel sanchez. It didn't take long for these men to show their relationship us all about.

Remember the days that when an honorary bishop walked in that many showed their respect to them? Those days are gone.

It was also not a surprise to see the AA board totally ignore Bishops Rodriguez, Torres, Tafoya and Salomon, and it was Pastor Cota that recognized thier attendance. This totally showed the character of Pastor Cota and totally exposed and proved that the General Board does not forgive, forget or even walk in peace. Pastor Cota is the last of the men that believed in peace and when he is gone then there is no one left to take that place, Isn't there a scripture "Blessed are the peace makers" but what the AA has now are men that are misusing their authority and causing division.

I am even aware that the usher that was on the platform was instructed not to usher these men to the platform.

I ask you a question, will you continue to stand for misuse of authority? Will you continue to stay in an organization that believes in deception and confusion? If so them stay in the AA and be part of the ongoing misdeeds by these handful of men.

Can I give you some advice? If someone passes away in your family, don't let the general board take over the service, they are only interested in the advancement of their own personal gain. For example, when my father passed away it was Daniel Sanchez that was trying to take over the service and I had to stop him, he even told me I was out of line for doing so, but my response to him was "this is my father's funeral and we are going to do what the family wants" and it was obvious that he did not like the response.

Nathaniel Ramirez

SLJ said...

That's what I was told, that I was out of line for for complaining about the Pastor that has done nothing but stretch his hands out for more money for the 10 years he has been here. The BISHOP informed me that the Pastor was THE MAN OF GOD not a man of god but THE MAN OF GOD. Went as far as to say maybe I was at fault for the church's problems.
Yeah I made 90% of the members leave, if I had that much power I would have made the Pastor leave alreaday.
It's always the members that are out of line or going up against God's anointed.
There is an unwritten code that they will never side with the members.
That's the problem.
They afraid of losing their power to rule and use strong arm tactics, they love to use to submit people to their will.

Unknown said...

Then if that is the case, the local church should demand that Pastors get paid as employees and get issued a W2 form instead of a 1099. Corp should send a letter out to all the local churches demanding that this be done. No if's ands or but's. Then, the local church can start paying into the employees retirements.

Unknown said...

Also, when you say the properties are under the local church for AWA, you mean they are under the pastors name.....all properties goes to him. How does that make sense?

cbg said...

Hey Spain get your facts right.

When a local church becomes self incorporated, the properties, or anything that belongs to the church, IS NOT (read my lips), IS NOT in the pastor's name. Dumb ASS!!!

Local corporations have their own board of directors, AND it's not owned by the pastor. Do your home first before you make stupid comments like that. You my friend are a by-product of the AA. DUMB ASS!

Interested in Truth and Justice said...

Dear Readers,

One more thought to relay. Since it is apparent that the AA is paying the price and obviously continuing with the same agenda, then perhaps it's time for many of you to consider an alternative.

Can we agree that wrongs have been committed towards many great people, here are a few names to consider:

1.Guillermo Mendoza: was told to retire and give up his church but this man wanted to continue in his desire to pastor and as the result was forced out of his position as the pastor and on a good note, continues to this day pastoring a great church under an independent status
2.Daniel Jauhall; was set to the side after he directed a letter to President Sanchez imploring him for the good of the church that the new GB resign and call for a reelection.
3.Abel Torres; after he realized that certain men were identifed as the 'God-called' newly elected officers and since he was one that really knew the truth he had no choice but to 'blow the whistle'
4.Baldemar Rodriguez; after he was summoned to the General Offices to dicuss his concerns about the results of the election and since Bro. Rodriguez would not be intimidated by the new General Board he was informed at that meeting that he was removed as the pastor and ultimately placed out of the AA.
5. Art Tafoya - As a District Bishop he requested and was promised a time to submit his concern to the General Board and Bishops but at the last minute was told not to say anything
6. There was originally approximately 25 names of prominent pastors that signed a letter directed to the General Board requesting that the recent election results be reviewed and also communicating their concerns obout the elections, but apparently this request was also ignored. Many of the men on this document were eventually placed out of the AA. It is my understanding that some of the other individuals that remained with the AA recieved a special 'visit' from an envoy sent by the general board, (isn't that alone a chicago type mafia example)
And recently, but I will not share the name, another prominent minister in the AA received a visit from an envoy of the General Board to communicate a 'warning'.
And there are many more examples.

So I ask you, are you willing to continue in an organization that will use questionable tactics against great individuals that only want to see the good happen in the church? or do you agree that there has been enough examples pointed out that at the very least you can inquire on how you can make a change?

I will offer a response to some of you that may be thinking, well, he just want us to join the AWA? I personally do not belong to AWA but I do intend to fellowship with them which identifies a unique point about this fellowhip, that it is only a fellowhip and the local church then becomes it's own entity. You are not forced to be solely with the AWA and you can freely fellowhip with other brethern with like faith. Could you really do that and belong to the AA? You could privately do it on your own but it will never be recognzied.

If you are interested, I recommend that you contact Salvador Mendoza, this man has vast experience and knowledge that will help guide you through the process and at the very least answer your questions, he pledges one very important point, that your call or inquiry will be held in strictest confidence. He has given me permission to post his contact information on any of my future blogs so here it is:832-567-4252 or email him at mndza911@aol.com.

Do yourself a favor, at least get your questions answered. You owe it to yourself, your family and to the 'flock' that the Lord has entrusted in your care.

Thank you for your time,

Nathaniel Ramirez

The_End_is_Near said...

A visit from an envoy or a visit from the Gestapo?
Sent from Heinrich Himmler Malverde?

west2east said...

Anyone here lives on the east coast or has family out this way that attended the regional service for the east coast. I have several friends who attended that told me that bro Abel Aguilar had said his son Jason had moved back to Cali this past month of October. Anyone else know or heard anything? Jason is suppose to be the "auxiliary pastor" meaning he is gonna be running the church while bro Abel runs the national missions. ??? I trust my sources, friends, because they all heard him give the announcement.

The_End_is_Near said...

Anybody catch the series Walking Dead.
Could be about the AA membership walking around like brain dead zombies, while Malverde and company do as they please and burn all the flor azul and mano mano money.

Anonymous said...

has anyone heard any news from Indio church?

The_End_is_Near said...

You mean the one Becky is Pastoring?

Anonymous said...

yea that indio church?

SLJ said...

Church has gone downhill like a rollercoster due to present administration.
Administration has not sent in diezmo de diezmo for who knows how long. Now he wants the church to pay it when he was suppose to send it in when he received the tithes.
I guess the special envoy came to relay a message to him pay up or he would not get his license renewed, and to also pay up on the quota imposed on the church
I guess he promised to pay cause his license was renewed. don't matter that he has brought our church down, Just about everyone has left. Church is bankrupted.
Instead of not renewing his license for messing up the church, it's all about the money. Send it all in and still find grace in the eyes of the General Board.
Tomorrow they celebrate Pastor's Day. What will they say.
Great Job?
You lost 80 percent of your members due to your Pastorship.
Maybe in one more year since you got your license renewed you will wipe out the whole church!
Great job Davy!

SLJ said...

Yep we're down to just one worship service a week, and they cancel that to celebrate Pastor"s Day.
The Lord must have been real happy about that one, honor a man that has single handed just about destroyed our church ( well his wife played on it too) instead of honoring the Lord.
And they wonder why all the members have left!

enriquea said...

Who r u talking about? what pastor?

MijoTonio said...

What I find wird or estranged, is that people are still bitter w/ AA and thy r still attending der churchs. Get over it aready and go somewhere else.

The_End_is_Near said...

Apostolico:
Your name says it all.
Your quick to send anybody to hell for not seeing things your way.
Sure leave!
Sometimes you can't leave the church you grew up in for certain reasons.
But you like all the others want people to leave that don't march to your tune.
I'm sure glad the Lord isn't that way.
Pastors today instead of going after members that have left, ask them to leave if they are not happy. Just what the Lord said to do Right?
Why should a member have to leave when the Pastor is the problem.
The brother is just voicing his concerns for his church, which sounds like not even the Bishop cares about the church. Probably to busy kissing Valverde's shoes.

Anonymous said...

people who have grown up in the AA have left. I bet it was not an easy thing to do but they did it knowing the Lord was there strength. Yes people are upset and frustrated. But there are more then 1 church out there in the AA.But just goes to show you people will put up with a lot to stay in tradition.

SLJ said...

Matthew 24:12
And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

Seems people were looking for a change during this years elections, but didn't happen, because of the all iniquity that has gone on.
I've seen the love of many wax cold in the form as they don't care anymore.
They have been beaten down, abused, mistreated, robbed and some spiritualy murdered.

Sad
Sad
Sad

SLJ said...

May all of you have a Great Thankgiving with your families.

The_End_is_Near said...

So what's the news on Richard ( like to kiss 12 year olds)Maffey?

The_End_is_Near said...

OK! OK all you hard core apostolics!
I know you were walking around in a daze, not knowing what to do with no convention this past thanksgiving day week.
So get back in the grove and start sending in your tithes, offerings, and make sure you support flor azul and mano a mano for the help of missions...LOL.
It's for Missions alright, only thing they don't tell you it's for Malverde's Mission. To milk you for as much money as he can.
But don't forget it's for the Lord's work.
Only thing they don't tell you that it's for Lord Malverde!!!
Wonder what Danny and la Pancha are up too and does DR. Ronnie know? wonder if Jason has been practicing walking on water?
Heard Eddie been taking Viagra to make himself taller.( Just heard)

The_End_is_Near said...

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The_End_is_Near said...

It was the night before Christmas, and all through the house not a creature was stirring not even a mouse!!!!!
but wait there were eight RATS dressed in their fancy suits, drawing up a plan to scare the Little Pastors to submission to send in all their treats.
Letters were sent out, that they better comply or else their heads will on the block.
Didn't matter what the economy was like. They wanted Christmas all to themselves.
As they drove off in their Mercedes, BMW and Escalades they all shouted with with a greedy laugh.
WE BETTER HAVE A MERRY CHRISTMAS OR IT WILL BE YOUR LAST.

The_End_is_Near said...

Employment:

Apostolic Assembly International Headquarters
Rancho Cucamonga, CA

Our Headquarters office is actively recruiting applicants for various areas of service. We are seeking spirit-filled Apostolics who have a daily relationship with Jesus Christ, who have a passion to serve Christ with excellence of character and stewardship, who have a desire to put their talents, abilities and experiences to the use of the church, and who desire to see the gospel be taken to all cities, nations and peoples.

Talents??? As to stabbing people in the Back?
Not caring about anything but the MONEY?
Making sure to worship Sammy?

WHAT A JOKE!!!!!!!

"RETHINK" "RE-PIENSA" said...

Really you bloggers should be re-congratulated on your interest to "better" the Apostolic Assembly of the Faith in Christ-Jesus, that through no "fault" of the intent was almost completely and totally "DISSOLVED" by the CHOLO SANCHEZ!!!
His dementia his senility and his Lack of Knowledge to God's word and no love nor respect for the
Brethren, caused this crises!!!!

But so what, we kicked out Sanchez, from the total General Board, and so what ....."el gusano"
the worse enemy Sam Valverde has in the General Board....Arturo Espinoza, the BROTHER IN LAW OF SANCHEZ..... SE MURIO EL MOSCON, PERO DEJO EL GUSANO!!!!
(TRANSLATION) THE STINKY BUZZER DIED, BUT LEFT THE "WORM".....

And a sneaky, tricky, gossiper, and informer to Sanchez DAILY....OF THE AA, AWA, IGLESIA DE MEXICO AND ALLL THE "TRIALS AND ERRORS OF DECISIONS OF THE GENERAL BOARD... THE SNEAKY, LIAR, SNAKE UNDER THE GRASS...AND FALSE ACCUSER...ARTURO ESPINOZA. WHO IS GOING "AROUND" THE ASSEMBLY, LOOKING, WHAT "PASTOR" TO "KICK OUT AND TAKE OVER A "FORMATIVE" AND CREATED CHURCH...
NOT FROM THE BOTTOM UP, AS A CHURCH PLANTER....BUT AS A "LIAR" AND WANNA BE DESERVING...OF GOING IN AND "TAKING" OVER ANY ESTABLISHED CHURCH!!!!

BE CAREFURRRRRRR PASTORS....ESPINOZA IS IN THE "INFORMING LINE OF SANCHEZ, WORSE ENEMY OF VALVERDE AND LIAR AND FALSE ACCUSING TO THE PASTORS...!!!

Wouldn"t you be if you had a wife the sizeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee of his...... Sista of Sanchez, "ant" to Becky lopez, the wifaa of Lopez?

If Valverde ever had "an enemy" its that "bucked teether, innocent looking....Arturo Espinoza...SANCHEZ'S SPY.......

"RETHINK" "RE-PIENSA" said...

Ustedes Pastores y Obispos que todavia oran y esperan que Dios re-instulla a la Asamblea, deben de ser "congrtulados"

PERO EL PEOR PEOR PEOR ENEMIGO. que tiene Valverde es el "GUSANO que dejo Daniel Sanchez..." Hechmos fuera al 'MOSCON DE SANCHEZ,, PERO SE QUEDO EL GUSANO". ARTURO ESPINOZA!!!!!


Y ustedes hipocritas que fueron a "darle la despedida a Sanchez en la Galas fiestas, en la convencion, y la fiesta de el aniversario de el "golpiador" de la esposa Eva, de 50 anos de pleitos...

Esa fiesta de 50 anos fue hecha por la hija de Sanchez, Sandra, que ya va en 'TRES DIVORCIOS, y que ni aun ninguna de LAS HIJAS DE SANCHEZ....se congregan en la Asamblea, pero van a las Iglesias trinas..

Y ustedes "hiprocratas" nomas para ir a lucirse que 'FUERON INVITADOS" Y A lucir sus suits y corbatas, que no tienen mas a donde ir...a luchirlas.

Pues les dire que son unos estupidos, de haberleDADO TANTO, TANTO TANTO dinero a ese Chollo bandido, de El Centro..que hizo tanto mal a los hermanos ....Y A LA ASAMBLEA, QUE HECHO PASTORES, Y OBISPOS "FUERA"....

Pero que esperamos de ustedes "IGNORANTES...VENDIOS POR LOS "PUESTOS"....LA POLITICA..." que recien llegados de Mexico y de trabajar en el hollo no saben mas.

Pues el PEOR enemigo que tiene Valverde en la Mesa Directiva, es "EL GUSANO' ARTURO ESPINOZA, CUNADO DE DANIEL SANCHEZ

Ese hiprocrata de Espinoza, que LA MADRE DE EL. DE NOMBRE Francisca Espinoza, en 1965 aqui en LA AREA DE SAN DIEGO, AQUI EN CALIFORNIA. le quito el marido a la hermana Lilly Diaz.
Todos los dias la Madre de Arturo Espinoza, vistaba a la hermana Lilly Diaz,

y se hizo tan amiga de la hermana Diaz, que al fin le quito Francisca Espinoza la Madre de Espinosa a el marido de la Hermana Diaz.

"La hecharon" a la madre de Espinoza "FUERA'

de la Iglesia porque siempre andaba detras de hombres. LA MADRE DE ESPINOSA, SE hacia "AMIGA" de las esposas y les quitaba los maridos, A SUS MISMAS AMIGAS..

Pero eso no dice Espinoza. PERO SI CHISMIA DE TANTOS HERMANOS...

Por eso se caso ARTURO ESPINOZA, con la hermana de Sanchez la gorda para SUBIR A LA MESA DIRECTIVA, POR SU CUNADO SANCHEZ.

Ustedes pastores, y Obispos se deben de Cuidar,

porque Espinoza anda por toda la Asamblea buscando que Iglesia quitarles, EL "BUSCA" UNA IGLESIA MUY BIEN ESTABLECIDA..., que DEN...... mucho dinero...mucho dinero porque eso es todo lo que quiere dinero.


Preguntes a los hermanitos de Palo Alto aqui en California, como Espinoza dejo el tesoro de la Iglesia aqui en Palo Alto en banca rota.

No le crean con sus palabras suabes, y calumbios, mentiroso, y chismoso a Pastors y a Obispos.

Cuidense que no les quite su Iglesia.....
Porque Espinoza quiere una Iglesia ya bien formada, que entre mucho mucho mucho ,mucho dinero....
porque tiene que comer muy bien su "gorda" la hermana de Sanzhez!!!!

CUIDENSE....DE ARTURO ESPINOZA, PASTORES. QUIERE UNA IGLESIA. YA BIEN FORMADA...

QUIDATE VALVERDE....TODO LE CHISMIA ESPINOZA A SANCHEZ, Y A TODOS LOS MINISTROS...Y A OBISPOS.....TODO "CONTRA TI VALVERDE"...

ES TU PEOR ENEMIGO....

YA ESTA HACIENDO POLITICAS MOVIDAS PARA SER EL SIGUIENTE PRESIDENTE DE LA ASAMBLEA....

DIOS NOS LIBRE....

The_End_is_Near said...

Thank you rething for keeping the fire going!
Let us not forget that even if el raton is gone the RATA is left.
And this RATA is a double threat with his money hungry greedy wife who goes around to Dorcas retreats conning them out of their money.
One day both are going to wake up in HADES if they don't repent for all the harm they have and think about doing.

"RETHINK" "RE-PIENSA" said...

Yes:the grinch-you are so right:
Arturo Espinoza went to Texas, when Sanchez and the gang had a plan with the Bishop of WEST TEXAS his hang man, just fresh out of the across the Border,TO START THE TEXAS CORPORATION.. the WEST TEXAS Bishop IS COMPLETELY "SOLD" OUT TO ESPINOZA...MEXICANO VENDIDO! TRAIDOR...(DOES ANY ONE KNOW HIS NAME?) that lives near the town where Espinoza now lives IN WEST TEXAS, near Austin, in a palatial home all cash paid.
From the funds ESPINOZA came out from Palo Alto.

So the wife of Arturo Espinoza, the quite passive agressive...gets all the money from the Dorcas retreats? Heard that in Texas where the Espinozas moved, they have all the Ministers and Bishops "fooled" that they are so sweet and in loved with the Mission Field. Who would't be to be "World" travelers at the expense of "La flor azul" and the poor innocent (DORCAS) AND THE VARONES (MANO A MANO)!

Espinoza has all the Pastors over in West Texas where he lives NEAR Austin,"right under his foot". Poor Pastors and Bishops they think Espinoza is sincere. But as you grinch stated so well. "Se va la RATA (SANCHEZ) y dejo (LOS RATONES)
ESPINOZA IS VERY much THE WORSE ENEMY VALVERDE HAS...
Espinoza only went to Texas to "be a scanvager" for the biggest church he can get. He may get the one his fat wife goes and sits, like the innocent. sister of el chollo SANCHEZ.

How can people be "so stupid"?
No wonder we are in the "fixed" we are in. Espinoza is the biggest gossiper, everyone knows here in San Diego area, and of course, La Gorda, SANCHEZ SISTER IS TOO.!

Why doesn't Espinoza tell the story of his "men chaser" mother , that took the husband of sister Lilly Diaz? We all know that sad story..Artie...ARTIE DO YOU THINK WE ARE STUPID, OR NOT INFORMED?

THE GRINCH.. is so true on this!
The Espinoza's are making fools of all the people in the Assembly, but especially in WEST TEXAS where the Bishop there is their 'PATSY'!

Wake up poor Texans!!! You are always the "last" to know what is going on in the ASSEMBLY and you poor Texans had to get the bottom of the barrel....Espinoza...who gets all the money out of the "Churches' fund" as he vists the church in West Texas and the rest of the churches.

For Heaven's sake Espinoza we here in Califa already "know" your number..Poor Texans! SUCKERS!!

Imagine someone like Artie that did not even finish High School, nor the gorda., traveling the Latin American World, as Jet setters...and living in a palatial home in West Texas, and getting all the monies from the churchesESPINOZA VISITS!
especialy with the way the economy is....WHAT SCAMMERS ARE THE FAMILY OF SANCHEZ....ARTIE LEARNED REAL GOOD FROM 'la RATA'

And what is VAlverde doing about ESPINOZA ?

NADA!! JUST LETS ESPINOZA "SCAM AND SCAM the churches and Pastors and Bishops..AND GOSSIP ABOUT ALL THE PASTORS AND EVEN ON VALVERDE WHO ESPINOZA TALKS ABOUT AND HATES.

"RETHINK" "RE-PIENSA" said...

the Grinch: Es la pura verdad, PERO ARturo Espinoza es un RATON, que Dejo la RATA SANCHEZ, su cunado.

Todos los dias le llama Sanzhez a ESpinoza como "van la cosos" con Valverde, y que planes tiene Valverde.

Aqui en San Diego se sabe muy bien que Arturo Espinoza, es un "chismoso", y calumador, que levanta "falsos" de hermanos, y de Pastor a Pastor de chismes que lleva cuando visita Iglesias.

QUE DERECHO TIENE ARTURO ESPINOZA DE VISITAR IGLESIAS PARA SACARLES DINERO SAGRADO, CUANDO A ESPINOZA SOLO LE TOCA DISQUE EL "CAMPO MISIONERO"?

ARUTRO ESPINOZA NO TIENE NINGUN NEGOCIO CON LAS IGLESIAS QUE SON DE MISIONES DE SECRETARIO DE MISIONES DE LA NACION, SECRETARIO ABEL AGUILAR.

PERO ESPINOZA VISITA IGLESIAS LOCALES DE LOS ESTADOS UNIDOS, PARA "BASARLES LOS FONDOS DE TESOROS A LAS IGLESIAS LOCALES"

Y LLEVAR CHISMES DE CONTRA DE VALVERDE.
UN PASTOR NOS DIGO QUE LO LLEVARON A CENAR, A ESPINOZA Y A LA GORDA Y "CENARON" A VALVERDE...que fue todo lo malo que hablo Espinoza.

Ya basta Espinoza, sujetate a la secrtaria de Misiones extrajeras, y deja 'YA DE SACARLES DINERO A LAS IGLESIAS LOCALES!!!!!

SI TE PONES HA HABLAR DE LOS HERMANOS Y DE PASTORES,

ACUERDATE QUE TODOS SABEMOS LA HISTORIA DE TU MADRE FRANCISCA ESPINOZA, QUE CUANDO LA DEJO TU PAPA A ELLA. TU MADRE SE FUE EN BUSCA DE HOMBRES DE SUS AMIGAS, Y SE LOS "QUITO", COMO A LA HERMANA LILY DIAZ DE SAN DIEGO. TE ACUERDAS? ACUERDATE, Y CALLATE LA BOCA CHISMOSO!!!
TU Y TU GORDA.

LOS POBRES HERMANOS DE PALO ALTO QUE SUFRIENON EL DINERO QUE TE LLEVASTE PARA TEXAS Y COMPRASTE ESA CASA "LUJOSA", Y LUEGO...QUE...
TODOS SABEMOS AQUI EN SAN DIEGO QUE ALLA EN TEXAS NOMAS ANDAS VISITANDO IGLESIAS LOCALES PARA QUE TE DEN TODO LOS FONDOS DEL TESORO...Y AUN COMO ESTA LA ECONOMIA.

QUE PASA CON VALVERDE QUE NO TE PONE "PARO" Y TAMBIEN EL VICE PRESIDENTE "FORTINO" Y ABEL AGUILAR"
PORQUE NO TE PROIBEN QUE SACES DINEROS A LOS PASTORES LOCALES....Y QUE TE VALLAS DE "PLENO" AL CAMPO MISIONERO, SI EN VERDAD TIENENES "EL CORAZON" EN MISSIOES EXTRANGERAS.

PERO APREDISTE MUY BIEN DE LA "RATA SANCHEZ' TU CUNADO!

NO TIENES VERGUENZA!!
AL FIN ERES TO DE "MENTADA MESA DIRECTIVA, Y TIENES "TODO" DERECHO, CREES TUUUUU HAAAA.. DE SACARLES LOS DINEROS A LOS PASTORES DE TODO EL PAIS.
NO TE TOCA VISITAR IGLESIAS "LOCALES" VETE PARA COSTA RICA, HONODURAS, AFRICA, Y ALLA SACALES DINERO.
YA QUE TODO TE PAGAN LAS POBRES DORCAS, lA FLOR AZUL, Y MANO A MANO!!

NO TIENES VERGUENZA....

ARRENPIENTE ANTES QUE VALLAS A "HADES" CON LA GORDA.

enriquea said...

rethink ,estas amargado!

SLJ said...

enriquea said...
rethink ,estas amargado!

enriguea! it's not being amargado when your voicing your comcerns for something you believe in.
What if the rest of the world had called the people voicing out about what Hitler was doing to the Jews amargados.
I could go on and on about people that have stood out and voiced against child, sexual abuse and the killing fields in part of world.
Are they amargados too?
Valverde and company have cause much damaged and spiriual murdered yes murdered many many of our brothers and sisters.
Are we to stand and do nothing or say nothing?
Thats the way we have been brainwashed into thinking.
don't go up against GOD'S ANOINTED.

God have Mercy

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Unknown said...

Rick Rsamirez died?

"RETHINK" "RE-PIENSA" said...

To truth for once:
No estoy "amargado" estoy "fastidiado" con que Arturo Espinoza se fingue de ser el "Gran
espiritual evangelista y consegero, y gran Missionero International, con ni aun haber
gradaudo de la HIGH SCHOOL ni de la secundaria.

Ya basta de Arturo Espinoza que se cree tan "santo" y MERECIDO Y DE CHISMOSO, y MENTIROSO, y siempre olvida, los pecados de su madre
Francisca de que fue de la Iglesia de San Ysidro aqui en California, que andaba de vagabunda "ROBANDO LOS MARIDOS DE SUS AMIGAS," Y esto ya que se creia tan cristiana y consagrada, y si muy pecadora!

Eso si no platica Arturo Espinoza, de su madre pero si calumbia a Valverde, diciendo que Valverde nunca debia de haber sido Presidente, y que Valverde es un hiprocrita., y el que debia de haber sido presidente es el Arturo Espinoza.

Cuidense Pastores, y aun asistentes de Pastores, porque Arturo Espinoza esta listo para "robarle" sus Iglesias.

Acuerdense que los Pastores le tienen mucho 'TEMOR' A ARTURO ESPINOZA, PORQUE DE SEGURO EN LAS CONVENCIONES DISTRICTALES QUE VIENEN en 2011 DE SEGURO ESPINOZA ESTARA EN LAS "COMISSION" CLIFICADORA, Y USTEDES PASTORES QUE "BUSCAN" SER LOS NUEVOS "OBISPOS" QUIEN CREEN QUE LOS VA A CLALIFICAR, O DESCLAIFICAR....


DE SEGURO ESPINOZA "SERA NOMBRADO" PARA ESTAR EN LA "CLAIFICADORA"..
Y TODOS LOS PASTORES....LE TIENEN MIEDO A ESPINOZA.

PORQUE SE PRESENTA DE SER "TAN BUENO" TAN SINCERO....PERO TODO LO QUE QUIERE ES QUITARLES LAS IGLESIAS A USTEDES PASTORES...
Y ESPINOZA QUIERE CUAL QUIERA IGLESIA QUE TENGA "MUCHOS" MIEMBROS, Y MUCHO DINERO.

POR ESO ESTA "ENGANADO" A TANTOS
PASTORES......

ES UN FLOJO....VIVIDOR!!!
CUANADO DE LA "RATA" SANCHEZ...QUE DEJO "OTRA RATA"

CUIDENSE PASTORES...CUIDENSE!!
NO SEAN TAN......IGNORANTES.

DIOS TENGA MISERICORDIA.

EL PEOR ENEMIGO DE VALVERDE ES ESPINOZA..MANDADO DE SANCHEZ.....

enriquea said...

Rethink: Espinoza te hizo algo? No creO que es valido ofender a la mama de El ni la de nadie. Cual es tu nombre,de donde eres,como sabes tanto de El?

enriquea said...

Rethink: Espinoza te hizo algo? No creO que es valido ofender a la mama de El ni la de nadie. Cual es tu nombre,de donde eres,como sabes tanto de El?

Dacio Vega said...

Date Set In Child Sexual Assault Case Involving San Clemente Protestant Pastor.


ORANGE COUNTY, California - - A February 28, 2011 jury trial has been scheduled in Orange County Circuit Court for a Protestant Pastor accused of sexually assaulting a 14-year-old female in San Clemente.

On November 12, 2008, Ricardo Avalos Maffey, 44, of Santa Ana, was charged with three felony counts of lewd acts upon a child between the ages of 14 and 15.

According to the charge, Maffey met the girl through his role as pastor at Apostolic Christian Church and, between May and August, accused of violating his position of trust by engaging in illegal sexual contact with her.

He is accused of passionately kissing the girl on the mouth on multiple occasions, and contacting her several times to meet and engage in kissing.

Maffey has pleaded not guilty to the charges and denies any wrongdoing.

Unknown said...

Future life for Richard Maffey!

LMAO!!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpBq1CqdaUE&feature=related

The_End_is_Near said...

Romans 16:16

Greet one another with a holy kiss.

This will probably be Maffy's defense that he was just obeying the word of God.

I don't think it meant to stick your tongue down her throat richard!

Raquel V said...

You thought Sanchez was strong? My hubby is stronger. Sam has removed Daniel Covarubias as pastor of Redlands church. Your pastor is next! Watch out!

enriquea said...

@RAQUEL: MY PASTOR IS NEXT?

Unknown said...

Jingle Bells, Malverde smells, Maffey gonna kiss some eggs..... Prados kill, Pacheco steals, Ocampo wanna get laid HAY!!

SLJ said...

Gee can mine be next?

Pretty Please!!!

SLJ said...

Hay????
How many Bales?

Anonymous said...

Does anyone know the reason for Bro Covarrubias removal ?

Raquel V said...

To answer your question...YES, your pastor can be next, but you have to give us his name and the reason. We are looking to sell some of the smaller church properties and use it to continue to build the mega church here in Fontana.

The_End_is_Near said...

Do as you please Raquel.
If you and Sammy don't repent of all the shit your doing, both of you will end up in HELL.
You both have one foot in aready as it is.

Raquel V said...

The Grinch: You have a filthy mouth!
I am not the one doing all the changes (even though I advise Sam as one of his "unofficial" boardmembers). Sam can do all the changes he wants and if you are a minister of the AA you will also be out! Covarubias had it coming!

The_End_is_Near said...

Raquel:
"unofficial" not to sound vulgar. your going to that hot spot the Lord made for sinners.
Yes Sammy can make all the changes he wants here, but when you and him stand before the Lord in judgement, being Mr Big Shot just ain't going to cut it.
How much blood you think he has on his hands? God will require that both of you answer to that one.

The_End_is_Near said...

And that will be official.

Raquel V said...

Oh Grinch, you know the changes that Sam is doing is in the best interest of the Assembly. Anyway, we are busy preparing for our Christmas party. I will check with you another day. Danny and Yolanda had to go. Their church is too close to ours and Sam never was in agreement with putting him to pastor in Redlands. That was Baldemar's man. We are about to shut some other churches in the area that are even closer. It will be done by the time Sam retires in eight more years. We will use the money to build our huge sanctuary (2,000 seating) in Fontana.

SLJ said...

My hope is that President Valverde does succeed and build his mega church and fill up with 2000 souls, but don't do it by closing down churches.
People have worked hard to build their churches to just be taken away.
We worked hard for over 20 years to raise funds to build out church and not have a mortage on it. Some members that worked didn't even got the chance to see their dream come true. God called them home.
10 years ago we received a Brother that had no business being a Pastor. He is not a bad man, but a lazy one. Due to his Pastorship we have lost over 80 percent of our members.
Two years ago I informed Bishop Hoyer of what was going on, and that more families planned on leaving, and nothing was done.
So today we're at where we're at because of this Pastorship.
It's not our fault that the church is in the condition it's in.
We have like only 15 member left, and only about 7 or 8 of us support the church to pay the bill, insurance and taxes.
I'm sure we're not the only ones that this has happened.
Before a church is closed downed, why not go and find out what really happened, and don't dump another loser that has no business being a Pastor on us or them. Hold the Bishops accountable for what has gone wrong with the churches in their districts while instead of overseeing what god has placed in their hands has taken a backseat to praching at women's conferences all over while the some district churches go downhill.
I sure that God would reward the board more if they took that route instead of closing churches down.

apostolicsincebirth said...

the truth for once, you are absolutely right. a church needed a pastor, and the bishop came a talk to the congregation and said "let us pray and fast and let God place the correct Pastor to led this church" a few months later he installed his OWN brother. the bishop knew all along of his intention. please don"t reponsed and say "how do you know he is not Gods chosen?" the few members that the church had are and have been leaving. wouldn't it be awesome if we actually let God run His church and not us. God had already a Pastor for that church,(AWESOME GOD)but we get in the way. lets humble ourselves before Him and give Him back His church. I pray that Bishop President Valverde somehow reads this

enriquea said...

truth: what church do you go?

johny said...

Every since the word given to Bishop Sanchez, which was a warning.. MAN has sat on the Apostolic Throne..
They are aware of all these problems, those in the seats above, but it seems like they are waiting for those churches to die, to take over the properties..
TruthforOnce: they worked to build that church, they sacrificed, and they gave it to a lazy man, Some pastor keep at it. because they don't know what else to do... they only know.. to Sit up top.. they cannot be employed or are now too sick.. or are used to the welfare they get.. t

SLJ said...

Yeah that is what I heard happened to the Selma church.
District sold it and made a nice profit, so now the district is holding that money incase the brothers that were thrown out on the street want to work their behinds off and buy another church the money will be returned.
LOL yeah right! I'm almost sure that money is going to the street as a SUV for someone!

enriquea said...

truth: what church do you go?

r u scared to say it?

SLJ said...

I have already done that several times.
If you want to know post your e-mail or a make up one and I'll gladly inform you.
Being scared?
Why should I be, what can they do?
Put in probation for telling the truth?

Raquel V said...

Truth for once, please provide your name and pastor's name so bishop can help you both. God bless you, sis. Raquel

Apostolicowboy said...

The damage has been done... Daniel Sanchez's PRIDE has divided and taken everything to a downward spiral. It is estimated that 62% of AA members have moved on to other churches. As much as you would like to see every one return, it ain't going to happen in this life time. The big fish eat the little fish, in this so called AA. Money is the source of all interest. God has been placed outside their hearts. With their hollow worship songs. Deceiving, Misleading, and inproper management of God's monies.

I remember Bishop Jauhall full of the HOLY SPIRIT asking Sanchez and company to think before they acted. Sanchez's reply to Bishop Jauhall was so disrespectful and full of pride to say the least. "Since you weren't present you don't have a say in this". Sanchez the man with no family heritage. If his father could see him now, and all the damage he has done. Him and Johnny so proud of themselves for giving Stephen a church to pastor. 100 members to what now 12 old seniors.
Stephen you done a great job driving the saints away with your Wordless preachings. Just working up a sweat with all the screaming, but can't even pick up a broom or hammer, or yet help out the seniors to the car. Come the first of the month you are ready for your $5,000.00 check you demand from the saints. No wonder you drove the people away.

As far as the new guy Malverde, he is just thinking about money and the people that get him that money. If you have money you are somebody to his wife and kids. His interest is to build a huge building so he can out do Lopez, Montez, Hernandez, and a few others. If you have money he will let you in his circle, sanction you from your worldly ways and sinful living life. Malverde has a minister in his church (wanna be spanish minister Lopez)that has committed sexual crimes south of the border and nothing has been done to him. Yet he is part of his circle. The only interest Malverde has is a big building and not the members. Homosexuals and potheads sing in his praise team, yet the flow of money causes him to look the other way. All his leaders can't stand each other. Dog eat dog social life in his church.

Yes it is true, when your church starts to diminish Malverde will be ready to sell whats left and pocket the spoils. That is what Sanchez left for him to do. Instead of building lives and ministries they are in the demolition of soul business. "We need to run it like a corporation" Malverde instructs his boys. When all along God's Kingdom takes second place in their hearts.

As far as the Redlands Pastor, he had it coming, him and his marrrana calzones cagados of a wife that he has. Too stuck up to win souls. Life teaches us what goes around comes around. You cannot be evil, harm people and expect to not pay for your doings senor "tijuanero" covarrubias.

And you raquel... it is not too late, tell your hubby to repent and fix what mess him and his culprits have done all these years. May God have mercy on your souls.

Apostolicowboy

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enriquea said...

62% of memebership??? Please!!

The_End_is_Near said...

Malverde will never repent.
His new found God is money and lots of it.
Like apostolicowboy said if you have the money and give, all your sins are forgivin.
Be a joto during the week and sing in the choir on sunday.
Have your little things on the side, and still keep your AA license.
The AA will never rise again. That doesn't mean that we the people can't.

Anonymous said...

if someone could help us with pastor Abel Rodriguez in El Siloe? We need to remove him asap! Thank you for your help! His brother (Stanley) left the organization because he couldn't stand his own brother.

enriquea said...

electoral conventions this year!Who's going to be the next bishop in your district? quien sabe.

Unknown said...

I don't know if everyone of you has noticed, but both Fontana
Church and Santa Ana Church long ago dropped "Apostolic Assembly"
from their main name : Family
Worship Center and Christian Tabernacle, I say this because Pastor Ignacio of Moreno Valley
was kicked out all the while you can attend fontana church and their dress code is not any different i would say that at fontana only about 10% of sisters
wear a veil and all the weddings ive witnessed all the novias
have make up on that is a
very hypocritical double standadrd

Anonymous said...

The end of the chisme ? LOL

I never thought i'd see the day.

Dacio Vega said...

Date Set In Child Sexual Assault Case Involving San Clemente Protestant Pastor.


ORANGE COUNTY, California - - A February 28, 2011 jury trial has been scheduled in Orange County Circuit Court for a Protestant Pastor accused of sexually assaulting a 14-year-old female in San Clemente.

On November 12, 2008, Ricardo Avalos Maffey, 44, of Santa Ana, was charged with three felony counts of lewd acts upon a child between the ages of 14 and 15.

According to the charge, Maffey met the girl through his role as pastor at Apostolic Christian Church and, between May and August, accused of violating his position of trust by engaging in illegal sexual contact with her.

He is accused of passionately kissing the girl on the mouth on multiple occasions, and contacting her several times to meet and engage in kissing.

Maffey has pleaded not guilty to the charges and denies any wrongdoing.

Lucy said...

PTL, no offense you guys I'm wit u guys all the way but we shouldnt be taking about the pastors. If there are pastors that have done wrong let God deal wit them. Why should we? as humans were just going to mess everything up but, if we leave it 2 God he does it right. By the way serve a GOD of justice and he will deal with the person that is wrong. Lets write appropiate comments rememeber we are still APOSTOLICS we should still be the light of the world.

Factsonly1 said...

My prophesies are coming true! American Idol hosted the Apostolic Assembly in the Faith Jesus Christ Inc, world famous Gutierrez Brothers, GB5!

A great and mighty movement is here!!

Glory and Honor! The Gospel is being spread on prime time tv!

Anonymous said...

OMG! they are not spreading no Gospel there in it to be famous and get a deal like everyone else on that show.

Factsonly1 said...

Calling all Tri-Unified Prophets!

Calling all Members of the Apostolic Assembly Church!!

I am calling on you to pray for the Gutierrez Brothers that are bring the Gospel and the Apostolic Church to new heights!

Pray that the souls of Randy and J.Lo be saved!


Pray that the Apostolic Assembly Church, under the leadership of President Sam Valverde, be lifted up!

Call and Text your votes in for the Gutierrez Brothers to win American Idol!

Glory and Honor, Amen!

MijoTonio said...

I am sure glad this blog is dying out because it lost credibility, if it ever had any, long time ago. I know Bishop Tafoya, Bishop Torres, Bishop Rodriguez and Bishop Solomon were hoping that this blog would help in exposing the AA corruption but in the process things were exposed about them and many of their allies. When pastors were being removed because of not giving enough money to the AA, these so called men of God never took a stand for the wrongful removals and with some of them were guilty of wrongfully removing pastors.

My personal opinion is that the sinful acts of ALL the AA leaders were exposed including the plantiffs. Both sides appear to be in their "ministries because of the love of money". However, I think now that the plantiffs' know what it is like to be wrongfully removed, I beileve their repentance will allow them create a much better organization than the AA. I pray for their success, but those of you who come on here because you are full of jealousy, whether it is toward the Aguilars, GB5, HGB or whoever else you guys hate seriously need to move on already.

If you stayed in the AA, concede because the uproar is over and the Plantiffs' lost. If it makes you happy go join their organization and put your hand to the plow and work your harvest.

SERIOUSLY MOVE ON AND QUIT BEING CHISMOSOS AND CHISMOSAS.

Factsonly1 said...

Amen Apostolico!

We are the new generation of Apostolic Assembly Prophets!

All the prophesies I made are coming true in this new generational era of the history of the beloved and tried and true apostolic assembly church!

I prophesied that Tri-Unified Prophet Congressman Steve Montenegro would be lifted up!

It came true! Prophet Steve Montenegro has changed the state of arizona and is making the TV headlines and will soon be running for governor!

I prophesied that great and mighty things will be happening to GB5.

Its came true!

GB5 is on world wide TV and going to be AMERICAN IDOL!

Vote and cast yoour vote!

J.Lo and Randy will be saved and be congregating here at The Fountain before you know it!

Next season, look for Prophetess Jaime Aguilar Hernandez to be on American Idol!

Look for Velos and Apostolic Appearal to be required to be worn in Arizona Public sSchool!!

AMEN!~!!

The_End_is_Near said...

LOL......LOL.....LOL....

S. Montenegro said...

Hey Factsonly1, did we not tell you to stop using my name in your tri-unified prophets rantings? You are bordering slander of my name. I will ask you one last time, STOP USING MY NAME IN ASSOCIATION WITH YOUR BLOGS!!!

Its mentaly handicapped people like you that give us true apostolics from the AA a bad name.

DISCLAIMER

In no way, shape or form is S. Montenegro, and the Apostolic Assembly associated with the lunatic rantings of this emotionally disturbed person (Factsonly1). The Apostolic Assembly and Christianity ARE NOT reflective of the mentality and ideology of this person. We do not agree, or support, any of this Factsonly1 claims. Please pray for this individual who is evidently, doctrinally challenged. Thankd you!

Factsonly1 said...

My prophesies have come true!

Reverend Congressman Esteban "Steve Black Mountain" Montenegro has become a national figuer!

God is lifting up his people! The Apostolic Way of life will be spead like a movement in Egypt!

Blogs like this have given the Apostolic Assembly the Victory!

Baldemar Oppressed his people! The Apostolic Nation rosed up and spoked a great and mighty victory!!

God Bless the Apostolic Assembly Movement!!

cbg said...

Hahahahahahhahahaha!!!!!!

That factsonly1 sounds like such a MORON! Hahahahahah!

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why were those last two comments deleted?

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The_End_is_Near said...

So did Richard(I love to stick my tongue down little girls throats) Maffey have court this past Monday the 28th?
If so what were the results?

justice_will_prevail said...

I hear that the jury has already began to deliberate on Maffey's case. We shall soon fight out...

Factsonly1 said...

Pastor Maffey will be found Not Guilty! I have prophesied!! Glory and Honor to the Apostolic Assembly Church!

Pastor Maffey will be preaching Victory and Dancing a song of Praise!

The Tri-Unified Prophets United in Prayer for their friend and servant!!


Victory! AMEN!!

Unknown said...

Trial Begins for Former Protestant Pastor
by Stacie N. Galang San Clemente Times
Mar 07, 2011 | 474 views | 0 | | 1 | |
The jury trial began today for a former San Clemente pastor who is facing multiple charges of molestation of a 14-year-old female parishioner.

Ricardo Maffey, a one-time minister with the Apostolic Christian Church, is on trial for five counts of lewd acts upon a child between the ages of 14 and 15 and one count of luring a child with intent to commit a sexual offense. From May to August of 2008, Maffey is accused of gaining the trust of the girl and on multiple occasions passionately kissing her, according to court documents.

Maffey, of Santa Ana, was originally charged in November 2008. He faces up to six years in prison if convicted.

The protestant Apostolic Christian Church no longer lists a San Clemente church on its website. The nearest congregation meets in Escondido.

Maffey's trial continues tomorrow.




Read more: San Clemente Times - Trial Begins for Former Protestant Pastor

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johny said...

Some breaking news.
Elder Luna from the Hanford church passed away on Tuesday.

Pastor David Rangel from Dos Palos, CA to be leaving the church in April..to be replaced by... ?

Bishop Hoyer, is taking people to new heights and then dropping them to crash.

Mini Me: will be staring as former president Danny Sanchez, in the made for TV movie.. the last days of a little man (Austin Powers Mini Me)

Abel and Jason are going be getting richer from all the J2X events to be held in LA and the Central Coast.. Do they really love souls THAT much, or is it the money.? how big is Jason's former church now?

and how is Your day??

Dacio Vega said...

print
Pastor Convicted Of Molesting 14-Year-Old Girl
San Clemente Times
03.14.11 - 05:06 pm
A Protestant pastor of the Apostolic Christian Church in San Clemente was convicted today of molesting a 14-year-old female parishioner that he met through his job. Ricardo Avalos Maffey, 44, Santa Ana, was found guilty by a jury of five felony counts of lewd acts upon a child and one felony count of contacting a minor with the intent to engage in child molest. He faces a maximum sentence of six years in state prison at his sentencing April 15, 2011, in Department C-41, Central Justice Center, Santa Ana.

Prosecutors said Maffey met 14-year-old Jane Doe through his role as a pastor and began grooming the victim by spending time alone with her while the victim was volunteering in the church office.

Between May 2008 and August 2008, the defendant violated his position of trust by engaging in illegal sexual contact with Jane Doe. On multiple occasions, Maffey kissed Jane Doe on the mouth while the two were alone after prayer service or in the church office. The defendant also inappropriately touched the victim's leg and buttocks for his sexual gratification, authorities said.

During this time, the defendant sent numerous e-mails to the victim to arrange future meetings and disclose his sexual urges. The defendant wrote statements including, "Okay, picture dis. U making out with me n my lips are really cracked n dry. As u pull away a lil piece of skin gets stuck 2 u," and, "There are no ways to describe the most gorgeous, beautiful and bootylicious girl I know."

The victim's mother discovered some of the e-mails and contacted the church. The church contacted the police.

During the trial, Jane Doe testified that Maffey instructed her to delete his e-mails to prevent her parents from reading them and told her to e-mail him at work so that his wife would not discover the e-mails on his personal e-mail account, prosecutors said in a news release.

Evidence was presented during the trial that Maffey confessed to the unlawful sexual conduct to police officers. The defendant testified in court, however, that he had not engaged in any unlawful sexual contact with the victim. Maffey denied kissing Jane Doe on the lips and claimed that he had previously kissed the victim on the forehead and cheek as part of Pentecostal practice. He also said that on one occasion Jane Doe unexpectedly kissed him, but it ended quickly and he was not the instigator.

The Orange County Sheriff's Department investigated this case. Deputy District Attorney Jennifer Walker of the Sexual Assault Unit is prosecuting this case.
Copyright 2011 San Clemente Times. All rights reserved.
© sanclementetimes.com 2011

The_End_is_Near said...

Pentecostal practice????LOL LOL LOL
I guess the little girl made him write the bootylicious e-mails too?
He'll be out just in time for the next Famous Apostolic Elections and most probably win the Juniors director's job....LOL LOL LOL

east los said...

THE AA NEED TO HAVE A CLOSE DOOR TALK WITH THERE APOSTOLIC PASTORS
AND TALK ABOUT HOW TO MAKE LOVE THE THEIR WIFES AND TO KEEP THEIR EYES OFF THE YOUNG TEEN YOUTH HOW MANY MORE PASTOR ARE DOING THE SAME THING PASTOR MAFFEY DID TO THIS YOUNG TEEN...THANK GOD HIS COVERS WERE PULLED BE FOR HE GOT IN THEM WITH HER...

east los said...

THE AA NEED TO HAVE A CLOSE DOOR TALK WITH THERE APOSTOLIC PASTORS
AND TALK ABOUT HOW TO MAKE LOVE THE THEIR WIFES AND TO KEEP THEIR EYES OFF THE YOUNG TEEN YOUTH HOW MANY MORE PASTOR ARE DOING THE SAME THING PASTOR MAFFEY DID TO THIS YOUNG TEEN...THANK GOD HIS COVERS WERE PULLED BE FOR HE GOT IN THEM WITH HER...

east los said...

THE AA NEED TO HAVE A CLOSE DOOR TALK WITH THERE APOSTOLIC PASTORS
AND TALK ABOUT HOW TO MAKE LOVE THE THEIR WIFES AND TO KEEP THEIR EYES OFF THE YOUNG TEEN YOUTH HOW MANY MORE PASTOR ARE DOING THE SAME THING PASTOR MAFFEY DID TO THIS YOUNG TEEN...THANK GOD HIS COVERS WERE PULLED BE FOR HE GOT IN THEM WITH HER...

Unknown said...

I'm glad to finally hear that this scumbag Apostolic Licensed Pastor/Minister Ricardo Richard Maffey is behing bars!!

He deserves everything he has coming to him.

What do you have to say now Richard?

Your last message to the MOP was one of pride and hate.

Your true colors have been shown and you were found GUILTY of ALL 6 Criminal Molestation Charges.

Sad thing is, there are more like you in the Apostolic Assembly Ranks.

Some of your Bishops and Pastors treat Members like we are your own personal property.

How many more cover ups Sam?

What are you doing to address Sexual Predators in the Church Sam?

Thats ok, Skotty has been getting leads and is forwarding them to local law enforecement.'

Sadly, more of this crap is to come.

I hope the victims families in all these cases sue the Apostolic Assembly in the Faith of Jesus Christ Inc for all it has.

Your days of living off the members, living in luxery, prostitiuting the tithes and offerings of the members are coming to an end!

Unknown said...

...I researched similiar cases
convictions such as Maffey's
and others have gotten one year in jail plus probation for molestation
it appears that because there was
no penetration this case might only warrant PROBATION,

...According to what i have read the Judge in this case
stated that he doesn't believe that
this is a state jail case meaning
that because this was Maffey's first criminal act he might get a more lenient sentence, anywhich
way Maffey has stained his
testimony, this is the greatest
punishment for someone who once had
so much potenmtial but allowed his flesh to get the better of him

...April 15 will be Maffey sentencing we will find out what he will get according to previous similiar cases he should get Probation or a max of up to 1 year in jail I won't throw any rocks and i'm not blaming Satan, Maffey allowed his fleshly desires to run out of control period...

Unknown said...

Thank God there wasnt any penetration. Still, kissing, rubbing the ass, and sticking your hands up the dress of a 14 YEAR OLD CHILD IS AGAINST THE LAW!!

Good thing the parents got wind of it.

What ever the sentence,
Reverend Richard "288" Maffey is in JAIL awaiting his sentence.

Whatever te judge gives him, he will be a 288 in jail. Thats not a good thing for your everyday cholito. When the word gets out that Richard 288 Maffey is a Pastor, oh yeah!! He'll need more than a big mouth to save him.

Then he will be a REGISTERED SEX Offender on the Megans Law website for the rest of his days!!

Im not one to judge him, that was done by a Jury of his peers and by BEYOND and Reasonable Doubt, in a Court of Law. GUILTY on all 6 Charges.

The_End_is_Near said...

It was good that the parents didn't back off.
Like many of our Bothers and Sisters that have been scared into not saying anything, because Lord and behold you will bring the wrath of God upon you if you accuse the "ANIONTED MAN OF GOD"

east los said...

whats up

The_End_is_Near said...

Anybody know if Maffey's dance card is filled up already?

Finally Sanchez is out!!! said...

Lets see what Arturo Espinoza, Secretary of "Flying" International
Missions is doing??????

Finally Sanchez is out!!! said...

Arturo Espinoza anda "volando" los aires y usted trabajando "duro" para salir de Obispo en estas elecciones este ano. Y Artruo lo nombran los de la Mesa Directiva, como parte de la descalificadora porque les promete que 'SALDRAN EN LA MESA DIRECTIVA DE EL dISTRICTO...SI LE DAN OFRENDAS "GRANDES" PARA QUE COMA BIEN LA GORDA., HERMANA DE SANCHEZ.


ARTURO TIENE "c" QUE LE PISEN....PORQUE SU MADRE FRANCISCA ESPINOZA DE SAN YSIDRO AQUI EN CALIFORNIA FUE AMANTE DEL EL ESPOSO DE LILY DIAZ POR LARGOS ANOS. QUE AL FIN LE QUITO LA MADRE DE ESPINOZA A SU AMIGA LILY DIAZ A SU MARIDO...

Y QUE DICE ARTURO DE ESTO...

AL FIN ENTRO EN LA MESA DIRECTIVA, PORQUE ES CUNADO DE SANCHEZ, Y AHORA SANCHEZ RECIBE TODO"CHISME" DE COMO LA REUNION QUE TUBIERON LOS OBISPOS Y LA MESA DIRECTIVA EL MES PASADO....PORQUE SANCHEZ "CONTROLA" TODO TODAVIA CON ESPINOZA.

Y USTEDES PASTORES "DORMIDOS" ESPECIALMENTE QUE LES VA A QUITAR SU IGLESIA ARTURO...PORQUE QUIERE DOBRE DINERO....

CUIDESE PASTOR....Y NO SE ENFERME, PORQUE ESPINOZA QUIERE SU IGLESIA, ESPECIALMENTE LAS DE TEXAS.

YA NO LE DEN DINERO.....QUE ES TODO LO QUE QUIERE, BASALARLES...SUS TESOROS DE LAS IGLESIAS.. Y HACE "NADA" EN EL CAMPO MISIONERO....

TODO HACEN LOS MISIONEROS, Y LO TRATAN COMO UN REY EN EL CAMPO MISIONERO, Y USTED NI CONOSE NUEVA YORK....

QUE SUERTE LE DEJO SANCHEZ!!!

HECHENLO FUERA A ESPINOZA, COMO HICIMOS CON SANCHEZ....
QUE TODA VIA SE SIGA VIENDO CON LA
PANCHITA DE AQUI EN WHITTIER.

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Finally Sanchez is out!!! said...

Todos ustedes en "My Space" y twitter, y Face Book "apacentandose" unos a otros, y Espinoza, volando los aires, llevando "chismes" de el Presidente Samuel Valverde, que Espinoza aborece....
Porque lo aborece????? Porque Espinoza aborece a todos ....Porque hecamos "fuera a Sanchez", su cunado...

y tambien porque aborece a cual quiera que sea Presidente?? Porque Espinoza, quiere ser en sigiente Presidente!!
Imaginesen ni aun fue a la "Secundaria"

Pero alli lo dejo Sanchez, el lagartijo!

Finally Sanchez is out!!! said...

We remember when the Mother of Leopardo Maffey y Richard Maffey, and ESPECIALLY "SERGIO" THE 'WIFE BEATER", TO POOR DEBBIE.

THESE Maffeys really named "Ma" from Chinese orgin, are so LEGALIST, self righteous, and so commending to all.

Sergio the Pastor in Perris here in California is "horrible" he will condem any one for , wearing a wedding ring , and cutting the hair of women. Why his wife Debbie puts up with him is beyond our imagination.

Leopardo, his wife Connie is another "sour face" the wanna be
"big time". They needed to be "humbled>

The Bible clearly states, "after the exhaltation, comes the down-fall. These Maffey (Ma) have
"made so many brothers and sisters in church leave the church and have
humilated so many because Sergio thinks, he is the "all righteous",
sons of Daniel Sanchez bad boys..
Sanchez made them all!!!

That is why he has the wife he has, SAnchez deserves it. Sanchez drained her and slaps her around.
Ask Eddie Lopes!!

All these Maffey came from Tijuna, and their mother Esther feels she is the "know it all"..She is supposed to be from the Avalos, from MX., and is one to "litterly"
slander any women who cuts her hair, dyes her hair as many of the PASTORS' WIVES DO..,

WatchOut! said...

Well the AA is at it again. I hear tell that the Galaviz family requested that Bishops Baldemar and Abel Torres as speakers for the funeral services of their departed. The AA has forbidden it! They have denied the family their request! Unbelievable . . .

justice_will_prevail said...

Why is the family asking for permission anyways? Weddings and funerals are private family venues and these clowns want to control even that?

At the rate they are going, they will attempt to control what you eat. So watch out bishops, elders and pastors what you eat.

Unknown said...

Why the Effff are the Galaviz ASKING PERMISSION?!!!!!! Good Lord in Heaven HAVE MERCY!!!

But then again, if the Galaviz actually listen to them, then thats just telling the rest of us that there are people that live to be under control of a dictatorship. Kind of like prison inmates that always need to be told what do do and how to do it.


When they are freed from prison, they can't survive in the real world where decision making is key to survival and achievement.

Living under control is the culture is what the Asamblea has become. They have it better in Egypt.

I pitty them. May the Lord grant this family grace in their time of loss.

===================================

On another note, how is Rev. Richard "288" Maffey doing in his visit to the Orange County Jail?

Im sure he hasn't fallen for the old "Hey Bro, you dropped your soap" trick. LMAO!!!

The_End_is_Near said...

Ouch!!!!That hurted..

WatchOut! said...

Yes that is totally insenstive and stupid of the aa. I dont know what they're afaid of. This just goes to show their stupidity and insecurity. I hear the late Bro. Galaviz was a great "supporter" to these brothers during the election fraud saga. Im sure the wannabe's still feel threatened by these men of God whose presence is still requested for such occasions. Anybody know who the Bishop of that area is? He's the one who sent the word down. Of course he's the one elected to do the dirty deed by the other jokers.

Unknown said...

...April 15 bro.Maffey will be
told his sentence, GOD forgives
i truly believe that but men dont forget and thats the problem here,
once again ive researched similiar
cases and if justice is truly blind and equal Maffey should only get : Probation, register
as a sex offender & lose his reputation, i know that District Attorneys always try to get
the highest number of years in jail
for the accused but based on similiar cases Maffey should get
the above mentioned, i wish Maffey
no evil despite his mistakes

Unknown said...

...just doubled checked similiar cases as Maffeys and most of them got PROBATION, Judges also
are supposed to follow up on
similiar cases so in this case
Maffey might only be looking at probation and his image on the 6'oclock news, the DA wanted maffey to get up to 6 years in jail because he was a pastor who should be acting better but in the law no one should be treated with bias the guilty should be given similiar sentences, we will know in 2 days

Anonymous said...

The A.A. is promoting help for the Japanese Disaster Victims.

How about you get your financial house in order first ?

I understand that some of the monies intended for the mission field never quite make it to our missionaries in need.

What a joke !

SANTONE said...

The fact is that all the Maffey brothers talk like this. Starting with Leo, Sergio, Areel, Sam, and the youngest Richard....they have always talked nasty. I was just wondering if they would ever get caught! I remember hearing Richard saying some dumb sexual innuendo's while he was president and just walked away. I was not comfortable and was troubled and even mentioned it to a close friend. I pray for Richard to find peace and healing as well as the girl and her family. This girl was in Middle school. That's sick of Richard a young 8th grader...you are really a co-chino! Talking like that in your emails to the eighth grader..."imagine part of my skin sticking to you"?????????? Dang Ricardo!!! You are a sadistic sick guy!!!!! what kind of stuff are you into???? Your mind is sick!!! You have a pornographic mind and porno lustful problem!!! Heal and overcome!!

Unknown said...

I seriously hope he does some time in Chino. Good thing the DA locked him up in county pending his sentence....

The below is dedicated to Richard Maffey....



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Rj1MdTpGy8

Unknown said...

...Germain, funny you should say that i remember once being in the
Summer Youth Camp and Maffey was
in charge and i remember someone
making that joke about the soap
falling in the jail cell and
he just smiled, at the time i don't
remember who said but i was bothered
that such a talk was even happening in a summer youth camp

Unknown said...

...NEWS ...NEWS..
It is with sadness that
Maffey will serve 360 days in county jail and 5 years probation, i do not say this
with any pleasure...Like a
David who failed to wage war
with the flesh he fell for
the desires of the lust of the eyes and paid a very heavy price...May GOD have mercy on us all...

Unknown said...

So much for only probation. Joe, you seem to be a person in the know. How much of that time is mandatory?

Im sure he will have to go on Megans Law?

I for one am GLAD! One less scumbag molester exposed and dealt with. If there are any more doing that crap, then beware!

Unknown said...

...Maffey has already served 50 days in jail, it is mandatory
that he serves at least half of the
360 days, so it is possible that with good behavior he will only
serve about 160 days more minimum
and yes he must register as a
sex offender for life...

Unknown said...

Hmmm, I wonder if Malverde has revoked his "ministerial" license...

The_End_is_Near said...

The only way to get your license revoked in the AA is not to send in your money.
As long as there is a constant flow of money going into the wolf's den you can pretty well get away with murder!

candypeace said...

whoever wrote this blog, why have you stopped?? I like to call myself an ex apostolic who was smart enough to leave. i would love to join a support group of recovering apostolics!!!!! :)

r.gonzales said...

candypeace- whyileft.org good website for ex's. Also on facebook, exodus from the united pentecostal church. I am an ex apostolic never to return

cal-tex said...

true apostolic loving Jesus. He is awesome.

Anonymous said...

Why do former Apostolics come back to a forum about Apostolics ?

Are you trying to recruit people int your belief system ?

If you left just stay away....why come back to take a peak ?

Why post up a site promoting reasons to leave ?

cal-tex said...

Not a former apostolic. I am apostolic de corazon. do you smell apostosy upon us and the coming of Jesus near. Loving Jesus #1

r.gonzales said...

why don't you guys check out these sites, maybe you'll finally seethe true light

Anonymous said...

The Truth of our Doctrine and Faith is NOT in question for us Apostolics !

What is in question here on this blog is the integrity and honesty of the Members of the General Board involved in fraudulent elections.

So don't get it twsited son !

Take your trinitarian recruiting elsewhere !

cal-tex said...

Tu pues sufre trabajos como buen soldado de Jesucristo. II Tim. 2:3
The Lord did not call us to be pencil pushers. We know reality.
We are going to win some and lose some. Just like the military regardless the branch of service we might be in, always exposed to danger in times of war. We are fighting a spiritual war and many are not going to make it and plenty will become deserters, but we have to be watchful and in prayer continually.

ChangesAA said...

Has anybody been in the AA website lately? Today is the final day of a seminar by an Argentinian BAPTIST BAPTIST Pastor at Fontana for all Pastors and ministers of the AA. President Valverde organized it to help everybody learn which finger the ring should be on> What is the AA coming to?

ChangesAA said...

Here is the link. The baptist Pastor even has a beard! Wow! Kudos President Valverde! http://www.apostolicassembly.org/cellgroup.aspx

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