Sunday, August 21, 2011

Its time for a new post...

I haven't really been keeping up with all the activities for some time as life has continued. I think it would be a good idea and good time to get an update as to that status of the AAFCJ organization. I'd like to compile a list of:

1. Pastors that have left (voluntarily or involuntarily)
2. Churches that have closed
3. Property foreclosed
4. Where have the pastors have left gone to
5. Legal matters
6. Organizational evolvement (other organizations created or organizations that have recieved AAFCJ pastors and their congregations).

Current financial status of the organization. Those of you inside the corporate office can continue to email info the apostolicvoice@gmail.com.

I do know from conversations with several pastor's both still involved and those kicked out that there is a strong division among the brethren. Missionaries that are traveling have visited excommunicated pastors incognito although they have been restricted from their fellowship. However, due to the lack of financial assistance from the AAJFC they have no choice but to visit those churches that still are supporting their ministries. However, when they do go it is very deep undercover. It is truly a very sad state of affairs.

AV

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Unknown said...

@ Enrique -as you confessed yourself it is you who lacks self control. The truth is you spread no facts only hearsay, slander, and lies. What I am looking for on the internet is finding disciples to preach to and to teach to the things I learned from Christ and the apostolic seminaries and bible colleges I attended. And I find plenty to teach to and preach to every day. Not only do you lack self control in spreading hearsay, slander and lies, but you are judgemental without any true facts, alright? The fact is I am spiritual whether you like it or not. But do not exaggerate so much like narcissist devils like to do, ok? The narcissism you display is much more a sign of you being such a spoiled mamas boy, ok? I am glad you finally got off your proverbial but and posted something even though it lacked honesty and integrity, ok? Keep right on posting and I will be providing you with plenty of insight schooling, alright? And do not be so foolish either cuz I do not get riled up, ok? What I do is address your errors, alright? So if you want to hear less of me then keep things right because then I will have less to say about it.

Anonymous said...

bleedforthruth,

I agree my brother.

It is so easy to tell a man's maturity even on a blog.

I commend you my brother. It is refreshing to be able to converse with others that whether we agree 100% on everything or not we can discuss all things without the put downs and personal attacks.

Like so many overly emotional individuals do.

thetruth and bleedfortruth,

Please continue to post and I promise that as far as is up to me I will keep it civil and honest.

Anonymous said...

Alguien por favor puede sacar la mosca que esta estorbando ? LOL

Anonymous said...

Sinner Antonio,

You have alot of time on your hands for a 60 year old.

You must be retired ! LOL

Old man go get a real job instead of trying to be an actor.If you were gonna make it as an actor you would have made it in your twenties.

jm said...

The truth, item (C).Wow nobody is going to qualify at least for years.

jm said...

OOPS left ouut the 6

Anonymous said...

Seems very similar to The AA.

With the exception of nobody being disqualified.

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Anonymous said...

What is a puga? Mr spelling bee champ! Lol

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the truth said...

Gentlemen, I suggest again to ignore the ignorant rantings of San Antonio. Let him blog all by himself and continue to show how foolish and immature he is.
Here is another bit of information that was presented at the convention. When the AWA was formed and the articles of incorporation submitted the only ones that signed as directors were D.Salomon, D. Zuniga, and S. Avila. We found out Torres and Baldemar refused to sign because they thought they were going to win the lawsuit and expected to return to the AA.
This information was made available by the lawyers that handled the lawsuit for the plaintiffs.
Oh and Zuniga was asked to resigned because he never showed up to any regional activities, conventions, and board meetings.

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Unknown said...

@ Rome and thetruth-especially when you are narcissistic devils, disrespectfully foolish, are ignorant of the facts, and lack the ability to communicate honestly and appropriately, amen?

Anonymous said...

Thetruth,
Great advice the aforementioned child is not worth wasting time on.

Thank you once again for the accurate information.

It always amazes me how the stories get so twisted and the story changes with every person that tells it.....lol

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Anonymous said...

Hey Grandpa you would need someones help to get you up to the UFC cage from your walker.

Give it up old man.

Cochino ! Go back to chasing women on facebook.

Dont make me get those women on here to throw you under the bus and reprint the messages of you flirting and trying to set up dates.

Menso 60 years old and still an inmature overly emotional vieja.

You call yourself spiritual and all you do is argue with people.

Unknown said...

bloggers beware do not be deceived by narcissistic devils such as Rome and thetruth who work on putting other brethren down to exalt themselves and not Christ and Christ's Gospel/Doctrine, amen?

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Central Valley Johny said...

I for one, would like to thank ROME and the 'truths' for all the information that has been provided, I've wanted to know what happened to these two brothers.
I would also like to say, "thank you" for the way all the information has been provided. Unbiased, forthright, and to the point, it is CLEAR with no opinions, as Joe Friday used to say (or was it his partner) 'just the facts, please'..
Thank you, again for the time placed and especially the "new constitution" set forth by Bro. Torres. I guess it is hard to get rid of some old habits which have been ingrained into a person over the year.
Scriptures are fine, but what I come to seek in this blog are facts... Not gossip, or to be schooled in scripture, I just want the facts, and -on this day- many facts have been provided and many questions I had have come to light.
God bless you.

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Unknown said...

@ Enrique- I may need help getting in the sort of MMA style fighting cage but it is most likely you who will tap out first and you will be the one needing help getting out and everyone will see that you are the big obese narcissist devil vieja, right? I am not worried about any devil women like you telling slanderous lies, ok? The Lord has provided me what I need. And Christ my Lord and Savior will continue to provide me ,a senior citizen, what I need to put narcissistic devil viejas like you in their place, amen?

Unknown said...

@ Enrique- I may need help getting in the sort of MMA style fighting cage. I will wrap my firm muscular legs around you and tap you out first and you will be the one needing help because I will wrap my muscular arms around you. We will cage fight to the music of GB5. Brng my roman greco oil because its going to be a long match. Everyone will see that I am more than a big obese narcissist devil vieja, right? I am not worried about any devil women like you telling slanderous lies, ok? Where can we meet, ok?

Unknown said...

This blog I have taken over, ok? This blog is my church, ok? I am the pastor of this blog, right?

Unknown said...

Please disregard my impostors two previous posts

Unknown said...

You're the impersonator. Im the real San Antonio.

Unknown said...

The fact is I am here to chat and meet young ladies, ok? I love the apostolic news of today and some of that news is related to many on this blog, ok? I have other online and non online avenues to chat in, alright? I also love to take men on in tight shorts in MMA Cage Wrestling, ok? Anyone want to meet up so I can go at it with you?

July 19, 2012 3:56 PM

Anonymous said...

Central Valley Johny,

I believe that those of us who are mature can discuss all these issues properly and respectfuly and we have proved that some of us can.

We only need to ignore the ignorant lunatic rantings of those who just want to argue and try and prove their supposed super spirituality to others.

I do however have an honest question.

Do you folks think that The AA will ever reform the current broken system ?

Or is there no one bold enough to risk ostracism in opposing the hiearchy ?

Or perhaps some folks are ok with how things are ?

jm said...

Seriously doubt the AA will reform.The ones that tried to make it right were locked out of churches they were pastoring ,especialy since they consolidated all the church accounts into one.For some I believe it will be hard to leave after putting all their time and money into the AA and their parents before them.

Anonymous said...

Jm,

Your probably right and it's so sad cause there are so many great people and pastors in The AA that probably feel stuck.

It would take a Bishop President with integrity and a pure heart
...no agendas and not hungryo for position or money.

jm said...

I went to the pastors meeting in the L.A. distict with the newly elected district Bishop .In one of his first meeting he commented to all ministers in the meeting that he wanted them to see how the meetings were run so when they became pastors.One of his pronoucements was that ,"I guess all the pastors that didn't attend the meeting today no longer want to be pastor".That was 6-7 years ago.

jm said...

Guess who's on the Board today?

Anonymous said...

Wow !

I think that part of the problem is to begin with there are many deacons, ministers, pastors and bishops that were never called to ministry.

They were appointed by men who themselves were appointed.

So it's a history of men who have no business leading the flock and who never learned to enquire of The Lord when choosing ministers.

How can they have discernment when they themselves should have never been placed there.

And the cycle continues.

In my opinion someone who truly has a heart for ministry could have never kicked out pastors but would have found a Godly way to resolve this.

What's more a Godly man would have never devised a fraudulent election.....but a carnal and greedy man...well that's a whole other issue.

bleedfortruth said...

Rome you hit it right on the nose. There is no accountability in the ministerial board as well as in the congregation as to whom is to become ordained. I can't remember the last time I saw a deacon or minister pick empty out the trash much less push around a vacuum. The service mentality is gone. There's an attitude of "someone else will do it." I truely blame the pastors. There is no correction or any type.

Anonymous said...

bleedfortruth,

Sad but true my brother.

There is so much focus on titles and positions that we have forgoten that a minister is before anything else a servant.

We are called Christians so we should endeavor to be Christ like.

We would all do good from top to bottom to return to having the heart of a servant.

If you have a title or position work as if unto The Lord and be faithful but do not let it go to your head or be self serving.

But alas therein lies the problem ....man's inability to stay humble.

Help us Lord !

bleedfortruth said...

Here's a thought for you. This is how I see things. These pastors and ministers that think they are above the class, well, I think it's because they never really made anything of themselves in life that was important to a company, firm, and business of some sort where a "position" had a real impact and the decisions made have consequences such as getting fired. Unfortunately we see this alot in the Latino/Hispanic community.

fatslonly1 said...

The fact is I am here to chat and meet San Antonio, ok? Alright I am fatslonly1 and I am the one who like to pretend like I am San Antonio and I am his impostor posting fake messages cuz I am obsessed with San Antonio's looks, teaching and preachings, ok? I am the one who love's to take men on in tight shorts in MMA Cage Wrestling, ok? Anyone want to meet up so I can go at it with you?

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Anonymous said...

bleedfortruth,

I agree 100%

They have not amounted to much professionaly so this is where they have their chance to feed that ego and fulfill the dream of an office a suit and tie and in some cases a secretary.

So so true.

And there are so many self serving pastors that it is clear as day to see even without any spiritual discernment that these men are just out to line their pockets.

I know of a pastor who is of another faith which I will not bash, and hides it so that he can continue recieving his salary from his Apostolic Church when he in fact knows that he does not hold true to the Doctrine and principles.

Nothing surprises me anymore.

From gardener to pastor after district bible college.

bleedfortruth said...

Really, the AA needs to give back the church of God to the people. The congregations of the AA need to vote a new board and not the pastors. If you think about it this way, a union is separated from management. Your boss can't vote for a union representative, it's unheard of; the union members do the voting and not management. The people have the voice but it's being suppressed for too long. AA members pay their tithes (union dues) why not. This goes for any organization.

Unknown said...

The problem is that men are deceived believing in men and their man man assemblies, AWAs, AWIs and other false non profit religious organizations. Christ did not come to form non profit religious organizations and neither did he ever send his apostles to either. Men trust more in the authority and power given by men and men's governments than in the power given by God, amen? As long as all you bloggers keep trusting in mens organizations the iglesia situation is not going to get better!!! We need me who are not afraid to step outside the box and be more independent and trust God and God alone.

Unknown said...

Fools the AA is not going to give anybody anything!!!! The people need to walk away from it and take bold actions to go independent and distance themselves from those who have been exploiting them at the AA, AWA, and other false non profit religious organizations

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Unknown said...

The AA, AWA, UPC, UPCI are man made organizations, ok? I challenge President Valverde and Bishop Baldemar to a MMA Cage Style Fight! I will wrap them in my rightesousness and choke hold satan out of these devils, ok?

Its a long weekend. Does anyone want MMA with me, ok?

Unknown said...

I want to participate with J2X. I think they need to add some MMA Cage Fighting for Jesus, ok. J2X with MMA Style Cage Fighting San Antonio v. The Devil. I will choke hold satan and make him repent, amen?

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fatslonly1 said...

Attention all bloggers The AA, AWA, UPC, UPCI are man made organizations, ok? I challenge President Malverde and Bishop Baldemar to put something in my big mouth in a MMA Cage Style Fight! I will wrap them in my rightesousness and hold so tight, ok?

Its a long weekend. Does anyone want MMA in my mouth with me, ok?

I want to participate with J2X. I think they need to add some thing big that goes in a MMA Cage for my big mouth, ok. J2X with MMA Style Cage Fighting fatslonly1 v. The all bloggers. I will hold you tight in my mouth and make you repent, amen?

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Anonymous said...

bleedfortruth,

I wholeheartedly agree with you and it makes so much sense that the power to decide be in the peoples hands.

Cause the pastors and bishops many times have their agendas.

I remember going years without ever seeing my bishop visit our church..... So if a Bishop does not care and look after the churches under his care. What is his position responsable for sitting in the seat of honor at district conventions and banquets and recieving a nice salary ?

fatslonly1 said...

Come in my mouth Rome and I will take you back to the assembly where all the false tri unified prophets are and they will protect you from San Antonio and his MMA cages, alright?

I will hold you and squeeze you tight with my strong arms and legs, alright? Cuz San Antonio won't let me hold him :(

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fatslonly1...lol

fatslonly1 said...

Ladies from the assembly and all other non profit religious organization work hard to stay away from San Antonio because once he puts his huge hands on you and prays real hard over you, you will feel the power of the holy spirit come all over you from your head down to your toes like you never felt it before and then you are going to feel so compelled to congregate with him and you are going to be desiring that he pray for you every time, alright? I know because he prayed over me and now he's got me telling everybody about it!!!!

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fatslonly1 said...

@ enrique- Enrique help!!! San Antonio want me to go back int the prayer closet with him. What shall I do? Can you help me Enrique???

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fatslonly1 said...

Attention all ladies from the assembly and other non profit religious organizations work very hard not to befriend San Antonio on your facebook accounts because if you do you are going to feel the power with every one of his likes on your page, ok? Do not say I didn't warn you, alright? Ay mami mami papi papi mami papi ay ay ay!!!

Anonymous said...

Who is rose valenzuela santa antonia?

Is that someone you tried to hook up with?

Bet your wife wouldn't like talking to her would she?

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Unknown said...

@ Rome what did my impostor tell you about her?

fatslonly1 said...

@ Rome I heard about her Rome I heard shes a single harlot from Glendale and she heard about San Antonio and how his hands are so huge and she told me she would do anything to have San Antonio put his huge hands on her and pray for her but she was not able to get a date with San Antonio so he could pray for her. And I heard she loves to have her red wine before she meets with her tri unified false prophets.

fatslonly1 said...

@ Rome I heard shes so afraid to talk to San Antonio's wife. And that shes so embarrassed that shes such a harlot for the assembly and the tri-unified false prophets.

fatslonly1 said...

@ Rome I heard she loves to go down deep and hard for men of God Rome. She sounds like such a harlot!!!

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Anonymous said...

You sound very angry violent and carnal for a so called man of god

Didn't take much to get you riled up. What happened to the super spiritual guy quoting scripture?


I thought so......nothing but a 60 year old jobless cochino.

Unknown said...

Proverbs 6:24
To keep thee from the evil woman, from the flattery of the tongue of a strange woman.
Proverbs 6:26
For by means of a whorish WOMAN [a man is brought] to a piece of bread: and the adulteress will hunt for the precious life.

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Anonymous said...

Pobrecita you got your feelings hurt and your all pissed off.

A true man of God is humble,loving,forgiving,disciplinedand emotionaly stable and mature.

You exhibit none of the above!

Your are argumentative,easily offended, lustful, proud, boastful ,lazy and violent!

A real man would be calm cool and collected a chavala like you shows how foolish he is.

Go get a job and support your wife lazy bum......and gwt off the blog you self righteous prick!

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fatslonly1 said...

@ Enrique and Rome- I heard rose valenzuelas used to throw her panties out the windows at junior camps, youth camps, and at conventions, ok? I heard that she still gets the urge to throw out her panties at conventions when she fantasizes about her false tri unified prophets, ok? Does that turn you on enrique?

Anonymous said...

Santa Antonia,

You are a maricon also? You keep talking about rolling around on the floor with men.

Cochina you talk way too much about sex.....you clearly struggle with lust and anger.

Like a city without walls is a man that lacks self control.

Unknown said...

@ Enrique -You know too well you are the biggest narcissist devil and maricon on this blog, right? You know you lack self control and you lust to have sex too much but you can only have sex with yourself with your palmsphilias because you are too much of a maricon that you do not know how to get a job that pays more than minimum wage and you lack the manliness skills to court a godly woman. Stop loving yourself too much and have mercy on a poor virgin and learn to give a woman some love and not just yourself, ok? And Have mercy on your poor mama and do not be soiling the sheets and your clothes so much maricon and contribute a reasonable amount of cash to help pay for the rent and all the food that you are eating that is making you so obese, ok? Do not be such a lying devil pretending you are so sweet and pretending like you have no sin. I feel empathy for the poor pastor that has to pastor a narcissist wussy deviled boy like you, ok? p.s I would never roll on the floor with you even if you begged, alright? Come and meet me in the ring and or MMA cage and I will show you what I would do to you when you are on the floor maricon, alright?

Anonymous said...

Wow like i said gay gay gay!

Again with the ring and wrestling!

You like to feel the chorizo when you get pinned huh?

Pobre so old and still not in control of your anger.

Chavala and a leva is what you are.

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Anonymous said...

Dude you are funny! Lol

Still gay as hell but funny!

I've never had so much fun pissing someone you off like you.

The sad thing is to see how you get all pissed when i'm just having fun messing with you.

Pobrecita you don't even realize when your neing clowned!

Baboso!

Anonymous said...

All of this was done with one purpose ......to expose this so called "man of god "I

See how easily he goes from scripture to masturbating and sex


A true Man of God would ignore me or not be drawn into the childish insults

Now San Antonio has been exposed for what he truly is i'm out of here cause my job is done

Unknown said...

Attention all bloggers I am The Reel Rose Valenzuelas am I am sorry for all the confusion I am causing on this blog and in the assemblies it's just that I can't help my self and facebook makes it so easy for me to contact men of God and men of God turn me on so much I just want to screw as many of them as possible before my world cums to an end. Please will all you me contact me on facebook cuz I want to meet you and I will buy the wine cuz I got to have me some wine before I am able to screw you. I promis I will get on my knees, get you hard, and suck you dry. Please please cum!!!

Unknown said...

@ Married men are the best fockers and I do not care if you are married. I know you guys are married cuz I can see it on your profiles but please just cum and screw me fast and hard!!!

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Unknown said...

All of this was done with one purpose ...to expose another narcissist devil mamas wussy boy named enrique he goes from loving himself palmsphilias and all. A true Man of God would not ignore narcissist devils like enrique. A true Man of God exposes wusses like him. He's out of here cause he needs a better job that pays more than minimum wage so he can afford to love a poor godly virgin in need, learn to be a real manly kind of a man and so he does not need to love himself with his palmsphilias so much. Which I am certain is a fact.

MijoTonio said...

San Antonio,

I knew you looked familiar. Are you Ernie from the George Lopez sitcom? This is awesome that Ernie comes and blogs on an AA blog!

Anonymous said...

Lol that's right he does look like ernie!

fatslonly1 said...

@ Apostolico- Ay que funnies eres tu apostolico. Como te gusta tanto!!!!

Unknown said...

@ Enrique ...Ay enrique you lying devil you scared me I thought you left the blog I work on a corner of?
Please do not leave enriques but please grow some balls cuz I need men on this blog and not boy, ok? And if you don't stop trying to screw with San Antonio you know whats going to happen? He's gonna get you to go in one of his MMA cages (ay que lindo) si? Que dices como el ernie? Ha ha ha!

Unknown said...

@ Apostolic Que como el Ernie? This mexican apostolico is so funny, right? But I tell you if men (no boys allowed only if you take care of them, ok?) work with me we can build great congregations together. These congregations will include but not be limited to a great apostolic and drama program, alright? So you big boys do be acting like boys on this blog, alright?

Unknown said...

@ oh y con comedy tambien!!!

fatslonly1 said...

@ enrigui ay enriqui no te vallas porvaforcito please!!! Las congregations independents of the iglesia needs men with extra large huevos santos, alright? Pero ya no seas tan chupon y maricon con San Antonio. You should know San Antonio's huevos are too big for you, rigtht? San Antonio te puede cojer por todos lados in his MMA Cage in donde quiera, ok?

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@ San Antonio- Ay por favor San Antonio please give me another chance. Come meet me for a glass of wine. I will meet you half ways. I will get down on my knees for you and do whatever you want me to do. I know you are married but I don't care that you are married. I love married men. Married men are the best fockers and I have not gotten a good focking and flocking in a long time. There are too many apostolic maricones and they will not give me the fockings I need. You do not need to buy any wine. I will buy all the wine.

fatslonly1 said...

@ rosevalensuelas -You screwed up biatch. You shouldn't have tried screwing San Antonio. San Antonio is a man of God. He is not going to be meeting with you or any harlot to be screwing around. You better repent! You better leave your evil ways Rose Valensuelas. You are going to need to pray and fast for a long time. You need to stop screwing around with men of God. The Lord have mercy on you.

Unknown said...

@ rosevalensuelaz - Repent, leave your evil ways, fast and pray and see if the Lord has mercy on you.

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Unknown said...

I challenge Bishop Valverde to MMA Cage Fighting Match at Robleros Gym, ok? Then I want to MMA Cage Fight the TriUnified Prophets, ok? Then I want to MMA Cage Fight GB5, especially the little one, ok? Im going to start my own church, ok? It going to have an MMA Cage inside, ok? We will cast out demons in this MMA Cage, ok?

Anonymous said...

This blog has become a joke because of one baboso!

Thanks alot maricon!

Anonymous said...

All this nonsense is still going on ? Isthere anyone out there who wants to talk about the real issues ?

Can we try this again ? We had a few real good conversations going a few days ago.

Unknown said...

I challenge Bishop Malverde too to MMA Cage Fighting Match at Robleros Gym, ok? But he must bring the red wine, alright? I want him to pin me down hard between the ropes and on the floor. I love to MMA Cage Fight the TriUnified Prophets, GB5, but I do not like the little ones, ok? I'm going to have to start my own church but I want nothing but big macho men with big huevos santos, ok? I love altars with an MMA Cage inside, ok? I want to see some macho men casting out demonse, ok?

Unknown said...

@ Enrique Ay como chingas tu, verdad? Aren't you the one that pours your babosos on your palmsphilias and on you mommas sheets?

fatslonly1 said...

@ Rome Oh Rome! You are such a maricon. You and your conversations that's all you do is talk, talk, talk. Why don't you stop wasting your breath and do something instead of just talking, ok? The real issue is that there are too many maricones like you in the assemblies that all you all do is talk, ok? What the hell are you waiting for? Grow some huevos and go independent and stop waiting for other maricones in the assemblies to join you, alright?

Unknown said...

This is not a joke! This blog may include drama and humor to help us cope with grieving the loss of what we thought we had in the assemblies, from being in denial of all the corruption we have suffered from religious men, from coming to the realization of the facts, but we must accept the truth. We must leave the lies of the assemblies and other false non-profit organizations. We must move forward and form independent congregations. And we must work together to teach and preach the Truth of the Gospel of Christ and not the gospel of the false assemblies. Wake up people!!! Let the real work begin.

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Unknown said...

I think my impostor above is on to something. I want thick mats on my altars for whenever I need to work on casting out demons from narcissists. There are too many narcissists/maricones in the assemblies with devils that need to be cast out. but also for treating the sick with prayer for healing therapy.

Anonymous said...

Now your trying to be all spiritual again baboso!

Everyone can see through you go get a job flojo mantenido.

Nobody is gonna contribute to your false ministry viejito your time has passed and you didn't do shit with your life move on ....lol

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Unknown said...

The religious so-called non profit organizations, including but not limited to the Apostolic Assembly, AWA, and others are for narcissistic men who like to be effeminate. Masculine men are more suited for the independent Iglesia model. So set yourselves free men from all those false non profit religious organizations and serve Christ and teach and preach His Gospel!

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Anonymous said...

Now your trying to be all spiritual again baboso!

Everyone can see through you go get a job flojo mantenido.

Nobody is gonna contribute to your false ministry viejito your time has passed and you didn't do shit with your life move on ....lol

Anonymous said...

Now your trying to be all spiritual again baboso!

Everyone can see through you go get a job flojo mantenido.

Nobody is gonna contribute to your false ministry viejito your time has passed and you didn't do shit with your life move on ....lol

Anonymous said...

Now your trying to be all spiritual again baboso!

Everyone can see through you go get a job flojo mantenido.

Nobody is gonna contribute to your false ministry viejito your time has passed and you didn't do shit with your life move on ....lol

Anonymous said...

Now your trying to be all spiritual again baboso!

Everyone can see through you go get a job flojo mantenido.

Nobody is gonna contribute to your false ministry viejito your time has passed and you didn't do shit with your life move on ....lol

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Unknown said...

@ enriquillos ya te volvio San Antonio completamente loco. Ahora si estas bien enrabiado como le gusta tenerte San Antonio.

Unknown said...

The apostolic assembly, the AWA and all the other false non profit religious organizations are plagued by too many mad narcissistic effeminate devils such as enrique. That's a good reason to abandon such man made institutions and form independent Iglesia congregations. Who needs to fellowship with devils like enrique.

Unknown said...

Just look at his posts and see what a narcissistic ravenous wolf he is. The apostolic assembly, the AWA, and other false non profit religious organizations are full of narcissistic ravenous wolves just like him.

Unknown said...

Just look at enriques posts and see what a narcissistic ravenous wolf he is. The apostolic assembly, the AWA, and other false non profit religious organizations are full of narcissistic ravenous wolves just like enrique.

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Anonymous said...

Of course someone like San Antonia likes being independant he doesn't want to be put on prueba and he doesn't like to be accountable to anyone.

But don't worry folks he's not really a pastor or evaqngelist he doesn't get invited to speak anywhere.

He's nothing but a wannabe and a benchwarmer that when asked anything about his ministry by a true man of God get's defensive.

His only pulpit and platform is this blog and facebook.

If you look up rose valenzuela on facebook he put smiley faces and likes all over her pictures, yet he says he doesn't know her.

On top of being delusional about being a man of God and a Pastor he's a big mentiroso and a cochino !

What's more I suggest you link request Rose Valenzuela on facebook and ask her about him for yourself she'l tell you all about that cup of whine !

LOL Dumbass

Anonymous said...

Hey Antonia,

No te cansas de que te este madreando todos los dias ?

Te gusta que te abusen verdad baboso ?

LOL

Profesora RosaVale said...

San Antonio
Welcome! Bien venida!

..
June 7
Rose Valenzuela

Gracias

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June 7
San Antonio

Comparte todo lo que desea tu corazon, ok?


June 7
San Antonio


El secreto es (cincuenta)

.

June 7
Rose Valenzuela

Mira

..
June 7
San Antonio

Shhh!


June 7
San Antonio

Mrs See's no es bastante bueno para ti, ok? Te voy a dar algo mucho mejor, veras ok?


Y tu vas a tener que proveer el Red wine, ok? Y tu me vas a decir cuando tambien, ok?

..

June 7
San Antonio

Oh and post up more sexy pics for me too, ok?

..

June 7
Rose Valenzuela

Are you asking me out?

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June 8
San Antonio

Yes, I am asking you for wine, right?

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June 8
Rose Valenzuela

I dont know. Im ok if you are.

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June 8
San Antonio

Soon we will get together for a cup of coffee or a glass of wine, alright?

I just got out of bed a few moments ago

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June 8
Rose Valenzuela

where do you live? we can meet half way? IDk you may live far

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June 8
San Antonio



I live in Grand Terrace California.

It's not too far from where are u?

Glendale, right?

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June 8
San Antonio



Grand Terrace is http://www.yelp.com/biz/food-connection-restaurant-grand-terrace




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I am having some coffee now with a little breakfast and then I am going to get on this, ok? https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=321566754591326&set=a.102995169781820.6432.100002140121630&type=1&theater




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I am going to get on the machine above for 20 minutes, alright?

Unknown said...

Rose Valenzuela
Welcome! Bien venido!

..
June 7
San Antonio

Gracias

..
June 7
Rose Valenzuela

Comparte todo lo que desea tu corazon, ok?


June 7
San Antonio


El secreto es (cincuenta)

.

June 7
Rose Valenzuela

Mira

..


June 7
Rose Valenzuela

Mrs See's no es bastante bueno para tu cumpleanos, ok? Te quiero dar algo mucho mejor, veras ok?


Y tu vas a tener que proveer el Red wine, ok? Y tu me vas a decir cuando tambien, ok?

..

June 7
Rose Valenzuela

Oh and post up more sexy pics for me too, ok?

..

June 7
Rose Valenzuela

Are you asking me out?

..

June 8
San Antonio

Why are you asking me out. I am married, you know?

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June 8
Rose Valenzuela

I dont know. Im ok if you are.

..


June 8
Rose Valenzuela

May be we will get together for a cup of coffee or a glass of wine, alright?
...

San Antonio
What I just got out of bed a few moments ago

Unknown said...

I, Rose, contacted San Antonio early in the morning on his birthday. I befriended him on face book knowing he was married. In an attempt to screw him, and his family, because he posts on this blog.

Unknown said...

I, Rose Valenzuela, am a horrible harlot witch. I will screw with any man of God that comes against my tri-unified false prophets.

Unknown said...

Men and men of God add me to your facebook page. I will work on slandering, and screwing you and your family. I am a single woman in my late 40's. I struggle getting men to screw me. Pleas help me get the screwing I need so desperately.

Unknown said...

Rose Valenzuela
Welcome! Bien venido!

..
June 7
San Antonio

Gracias

..
June 7
Rose Valenzuela

Comparte todo lo que desea tu corazon, ok?


June 7
San Antonio


El secreto es (cincuenta)

.

June 7
Rose Valenzuela

Mira

..


June 7
Rose Valenzuela

Mrs See's no es bastante bueno para tu cumpleanos, ok? Te quiero dar algo mucho mejor, veras ok?
June 7
Rose Valenzuela

Oh and post up more sexy pics for me too, ok?

..

June 7
Rose Valenzuela

Are you asking me out?

..

June 8
San Antonio

Why are you asking me out. I am married, you know?

..

June 8
Rose Valenzuela

I dont know. Im ok if you are.

..


June 8
Rose Valenzuela

May be we will get together for a cup of coffee or a glass of wine, alright?
...

San Antonio
What I just got out of bed a few moments ago

Unknown said...

I work very hard as a whore for the assembly to destroy married men, their families and men Of God that post on this blog.

Unknown said...

June 7
Rose Valenzuela

Oh men with big huevos post up more sexy pics for me too, ok?

..

June 7
Rose Valenzuela

I am asking you out?

..



June 8
Rose Valenzuela

May be we will get together for a cup of coffee or a glass of wine, alright?

I want to slander you, screw as many men on facebook and on this blog as fast and hard as I can before my world comes to an end.

Unknown said...

I want to slander you, screw as many men on facebook and on this blog as fast and hard as I can before my world comes to an end.

Unknown said...

I work very hard as a whore for the assembly to destroy married men, their families and men Of God that post on this blog, and that are on facebook.

Unknown said...

Rose Valenzuela

Oh men with big huevos post up more sexy pics for me, ok?

..

June 7
Rose Valenzuela

I am asking you out?

..



June 8
Rose Valenzuela

May be we will get together for a cup of coffee or a glass of wine, alright?

I want to slander you, screw as many men, and men of God on facebook and on this blog as fast and hard. Make my world cum.

Unknown said...

The apostolic assembly, the AWA and all the other false non profit religious organizations are plagued by too many mad narcissistic effeminate devils such as enrique. That's a good reason to abandon such man made institutions and form independent Iglesia congregations. Who needs to fellowship with devils like enrique.

Just look at his posts and see what a narcissistic ravenous wolf he is. The apostolic assembly, the AWA, and other false non profit religious organizations are full of narcissistic ravenous wolves just like enrique and Profesora RosaVale

Just look at enriques posts and see what a narcissistic ravenous wolf he is. The apostolic assembly, the AWA, and other false non profit religious organizations are full of narcissistic ravenous wolves just like enrique and Profesora RosaVale

Anonymous said...

So if you tried hooking up with her what does that make you?

You false pastor false evangelist!

Anonymous said...

If you keep it up what's coming next is you getting revealed for the false man of god you are on facebook!

LocoValdez said...

Just when things seemed to be turning around on this blog, ...

It all went down hill again.

At least I found out what happened to Brothers A and B..

That was helpful.

Can't we ALL JUST GET ALONG????

It is entertaining for a little while but then it gets OLD..


I don't know who this Antonio is or Rose, but they all seem the same to me.. I think there is a blogger that's impersonating several people .. just to stir up the pot.

I've never understood why some of these people would try to hook up with someone in church.
A dog should never eat where it .. well you can finish that sentence. If a man or woman wants to Fool around, go out there, the devil will provide you any number of men, women, or a little bit of both for someone to DO IT with.
Nuff said..

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Unknown said...

@ enrique Let's go ahead and show the whole world who you are devil. Your time is coming to an end very soon. You don't scare me wussy devil. I already made you cow down several times and I am ready to put you where you belong. In the name of Christ my Savior and Lord I command you to come out of the darkness where you hide now and into the Light of Christ where I live. I do not have anything to hide.

Anonymous said...

Loco Valdez,

I agree i would like to discuss the issues with other level headed mature individuals. Let's converse and ignore the juvenile comments!

Unknown said...

@ enrique Is that all you got enrique you wussy devil you? That ain't nothing you little devil. I got you by you tail and it's burning flaming up your behind, alright? All you got is a little lie about rose valencia the assemblies and your whore asking me out via facebook. Lol! You ain't got nothing. I got you under my heel. How does it feel to feel me stopping on your head wussy devil enrique?

Profesora RosaVale said...

Poor San Antonio. Your wife is an old apostolic vieja. Full or gray hair and unkept. She looks like a zombie. I dont blame you for trying to hook up with me, and several others. I have a few amigas you connected to on facebook. See, we all talk. All you have to do is look at our pictures and comments, you like them all. Im sure my amigas willl be sharing their San Antonio experiences soon.

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Anonymous said...

San Antonio,

You have me ?

I'm not the one flirting with women on facebook.

You got caught and don't know how to get out of it other than to lie.

You have nothing on me !

I tell you keep it up and there's gonna be more dirt released on you and pictures,e-mails and personal accounts of what you have been up to sent to your pad and letter's to all of the churches you have visited warning about you as a false man of god.

You will be sorry if you keep it up !

And quit repeating you tired and retarded " narcissist devil " line. Somebody taught you that word and you over use it in an attempt to show that you have a wide vocabulary.

Anyone who reads your posts can discern that your a little bit off your rocker.

You are not all there my man, definitely not firing on all pistons. Even in your pictures you can see the blank soulless stare of insanity.

And man are you vain and in love with yourself posting your pictures all over the place.

Anonymous said...

And as far as trying to intimidate anyone by saying that whoever approaches your wife will be taken down hard. You forgot one minor detail.

You have pictures of yourself on the blog and all over facebook.

Everyone and anyone can see that you do not look menacing or intimidating grandpa, who the hell would be scared of you.

I saw your nerdy picture of you wearing a captain america t-shirt and trying to flex your arms that have zero muscles !

Beaner please ain't nobody scared !

Dumbass

Anonymous said...

Are there any mature well adjusted normal brethren out there? Hello anyone? Or has this blog been taken over by San Antonio and his multiple personalities and profiles?

Unknown said...

@ Rome as you can see it will be very challenging to find a few normal people on here. There's mostly retarded wussy narcissist devils looking for an opportunity to steal, kill and destroy any body that goes against their stupid false non-profit organizations. The the wussy devils on this blog are just that wussy punney lying devils that try to roar but even their roar is not very threatening. I got most of the devils on this blog running, shitting, leaving all kinds of skid marks, while their tiny butt hole are burning up inside them. I got them terrified so they're squealing and hollering, as I help send them to the pitts of fire. Any of these little narcissistic devils would crap down their pants if they met me in any ally and I will see to it they do. They are liars denying that they they are not afraid of me. I have already challenged these wusses to meet me and my warriors and they ignore my challenge because they are truly cowards. Many stupid devils have judged me by my looks but I have shockingly surprised them all. I am going to get as many of these narcissistic devils into the fire and watch them burn in hell and in the pitts of eternal fire. Prayer warriors and saints join me in this battle, alright?

Anonymous said...

You sir do not sound like a man of God.Please do not include me in your insane rantings. I truly desire to discuss the issues with anyone but you sir.

Unknown said...

@ Profesora RosaVale.. I am the happiest man in the world and my wife is the woman perfectly described in proverbs chapter 31. She is not obese an obese whore like Profesora RosaVale. My wife is truly a saint. And the facebook friends God and Christ my Lord and Savior gives me are the greatest. Praise God! Hallelujah! p.s. eat your heart out RosaVale too bad that from now until you are place in the pitt of fire you will not enjoy a life as abundant as the life my God and Christ my Savior and Lord gives me. And nothing you and or any of your wussy devils say and do can take away what all these things God has given me. Praise God! Hallelujah!

Anonymous said...

Everyone see how Antonia is NOT a man of God !

A true man of God would completely ignore me or give me positive words of peace.

He is two seconds away from blowing up in anger and he always responds negatively with childish insults.

Like I said before I am just doing this to show everyone what this false Pastor is all about. I actually have fun waiting to see what babosadas he will post up next.

It's all fun for me, but I guaranty you he is super pissed off.

What man of God would tell someone that he will beat them up and talk about masturbation etc...

You fool you judge yourself by your own words.

And just in case you think your a Theologian because you went to an Apostolic Bible College, Most of those schools are a joke and not even accredited. LOL

And you are constantly taking scriptures out of context which tells me you DO NOT know how to rightly divide The Word.

You keep falling into my trap....nimodo. I guess you like the abuse : )

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Unknown said...

@ Profesora RosaVale.. I am the happiest man in the world and my wife is the woman perfectly described in proverbs chapter 31. She is not an obese single whore devil like Profesora RosaVale. My wife is truly a saint. And the facebook friends God and Christ my Lord and Savior gives me are the greatest. Praise God! Hallelujah! p.s. eat your heart out RosaVale too bad that from now until you are placed in the pitt of hell and fire you will not enjoy a life as abundant as the life my God and Christ my Savior and Lord gives me. And nothing you and or any of your wussy devils say and do can take away what all these things God has given me. Praise God! Hallelujah!

Profesora RosaVale said...

Yes San Antonio, I believe you. I believe she is a great woman who works to financially support her man while he, at age 50, starts a new career in acting, pastoring and blogging.

Anonymous said...

WOW !

BURN !!!!!!!!!!!

I actually thought he was 60 but oh well.

Unknown said...

right turn or burn

Unknown said...

turn or burn

Unknown said...

@ Profesora RosaVale ...cont'd she is who she is and let's me be who I am. You'd be surprised that I am well able to take care of my self and I do and I have for over twenty years that we have been married. My God and Christ has provided me all the education, training and work experience I need. I have worked in the private sector and in government for enough years and I have my own pensions.

Anonymous said...

Pride Pride Pride is all I hear.

Me me me, I I I

Defensive, angry and very emotional.

A Pastor should have love, patience and long suffering.

Not spew caca like " I'll beat you up in the mma ring and you are probably lonely and can only masturbate "

Oh yeah real man of god there........NOT !

Anonymous said...

A suit and tie does not a godly man make !

And you are not spiritual just because you say you are.

The proof is in the pudding dude !

You keep showing over and over the caca that is in your heart and it cannot help but spew out of your mouth.

Unknown said...

And whether you think I sound like a man of God or not. God will make it known to you in His due time.
p.s I am not like any of the wussy pastors and or preachers that you have met in your false non profit religious organizations.

Anonymous said...

What loving caring pastor uses the word wussy......you know you really want to call them pussies!

How many do you have in your congregation........zero right.

You have to have a flock in order to be a pastor......man you cant even get that right. Product of thay unaccredited bible college right? Ha ha ha

Anonymous said...

Rome is right ! With every response you just look more and more foolish. Give it up ! And don't you dare and cry that your being persecuted like the apostles. all of this is of your own doing menso.

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Unknown said...

the false non-profit religious organizations weaken the men of God and make him submit to the governments authority. It is only under God's image and in the Way of Christ's true Gospel can we enjoy the fullness of the power and liberty that Christ intended his apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers and evangelist to have.

Anonymous said...

Of which you are none of.

The Five fold ministry does not apply to you.

Nowhere does it speak about being an actor or blogger.

Ha Ha Ha

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Unknown said...

I am not concerned about what you think a man of God is supposed to look like or sound like. You apparently have been fed too many lies about how a man of God looks and sounds. I am focused on my work for God and Christ my Lord and Savior and I am going to continue working here and everywhere Christ leads me to do so.

Unknown said...

The call of God and Christ is to everyone who is sincere and that is able to hear His call regardless of genetics, environment, education, social status, economics, etc...

Anonymous said...

Must you drone on and on about Organizations.

OK we get it your against organizations .....so don't belong to one.

But must you repeat that over and over and over ?

Some of us see the value in structure and ecclesiastical governance as well as accountability of which you have none.

Give it a rest already

Unknown said...

The holy scriptures do not exclude any one from any type of work. The worst type of employment (besides the business of sin) was tax collector. And the apostle Matthew was a tax collector.

Anonymous said...

It's not in what I think or see, the qualifications for a man of God and a leader are mapped out in scripture.

You seem to be an angry and violent man who is ready to beat up people and put them down.

Not like someone is a kind and gentle loving pastor, did not Our Lord say to be like him and he was humble, meek and loving.

Unknown said...

I have met friends that work as tax collectors and tax collecting is still one of the worst if not the worst jobs men do.

Anonymous said...

You are so prideful that you cannot even admit that you flew off the handle offended half of this blog and exhibited less than a christian attitude.

Not to mention lying about the young ladies you have attempted to hook up with on facebook...and yes I said ladies ( plural ) cause there have been more than just one.

Cochino !

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Unknown said...

The fact is you do not know me. You do not know how I express God's love and the many ways it can be expressed. I am actually better educated and trained to teach you or any one how a man of God is able to express God's love.

Anonymous said...

Wow so prideful and you do not even see it!

This is so sad.

This blog is done........thanks alot genius!

Unknown said...

I do not deny the fact that I offend.

Unknown said...

A real man does not need to be too apologetic for who he is. The things I know about myself I do not need to be telling everybody. As men we work on telling only what we feel we need to tell in the moment. I know and God knows who I am, what I am, and what I do.

Anonymous said...

Do you admit that your prideful and full of lust ?

Unknown said...

There is always hope in Christ. This blog can be cleaned up some if we all choose to do it.

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Unknown said...

As many of us men agree to clean up this blog we can take action and clean it up. It's up to us, right?

Unknown said...

I have a message/ad to communicate on this blog about an opportunity God offers to men through Christ. The message is very clear work of God is available, no religious non-profit organization needed or required, no gov't license or permission required.
Learn the Truth of the Gospel of Christ and teach it and preach it every where in the world. p.s. do not be deceived by men's doctrines and or false religious organizations.

Unknown said...

We are all accountable. Whether we are in a non-profit organization or not. I know that for a fact. I have plenty of people to be accountable to in my life.

Unknown said...

p.s micro managers need not apply for the opportunities and positions noted above.

the truth said...

San Antonio this is for you. Learn what the Bible says and live it, because all the claims you make ARE NOT even Biblical. May the Lord deliver you from your darkness.

"14 Keep reminding God’s people of these things. Warn them before God against quarreling about words; it is of no value, and only ruins those who listen. 15 Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth. 16 Avoid godless chatter, because those who indulge in it will become more and more ungodly. 17 Their teaching will spread like gangrene." 2 Timothy 2:14-17 (NIV).

Anonymous said...

Can we try this again ?

I would like to discuss any current or past issues with AA and AWA.

In having healthy discussions we may be able to learn from all of this.

And for the love of God do not respond to any of my posts Antonio.

We need to ignore this individual as his only desire is to " school us " according to him and to argue and threaten the saints.

Anonymous said...

thetruth,

I belioeve that one of the mentalities that has most hurt The Assembly is that the average layperson is made to feel that they must not ever question The Man of God.

This has been taken advantage of and Pastors appoint whoever they want, implement doctrines and standards that have a feeble scriptural foundation if any.


This also fosters the notion that if a man is placed as pastor it must be the will of God.

And we can most assuredly agree that it is not always the case.

Can this culture ever be changed.....or is that sweet tithe of tithe and salary just too good to rock the boat ?

Anonymous said...

A little food for thought my fellow bloggers. I read this portion of a book on another blog and thought some might find it interesting.

Consider the relationship between Boasting and Self pity.
Both are manifestations of pride. Boasting is the response of pride to success, self-pity is the response of pride to suffering. Boasting says, "I deserve admiration because I have achieved so much. Self-Pity says, "I deserve admiration because I have suffered so much." Boasting is the voice of pride in the strong. Self-pity is the voice of pride in the weak. Boasting sounds self-sufficient. Self-pity sounds self-sacrificing.

The reason self-pity does not look like pride is that it appears to be needy.

But the need arises from a wounded ego and the desire of the self-pitying is not really for others to see them as helpless, but heroes. The need self-pity feels does not come from a sense of unworthiness, but a sense of unrecognized worthiness. It is the response of unapplauded pride.

bleedfortruth said...

I'm just going to say it. The mentality of our culture is the same one we are taught all our lives, "Don't question authority." Unfortunately, this same mentality goes for everything in our lives, instead they get with small groups and discuss it like you would in a conversation with the only ending result is the one that is never put into action. In all reality, nothing is ever going to change. But I’ll tell you this; the second there’s no salary, salary cut, benefit cut, and medical cut if any; that will be the test of character for the modern day pastors. I’m not saying a pastor shouldn’t be taken care of, not at all. What I am saying is those “ministers/pastors,” who are driving Lexus, BMW and etc., and are still renting a church building, there is a serious problem and I have one word for the members of that church, “Stupid.”

Unknown said...

@ the truth ...Thank you! I value your efforts to communicate. However, I do not agree with your point of view and or your perception of me and my communications. The bible verses you quoted out of the proper context as they refer to "quarrels about words" to no profit. The scripture as you quoted it is a doctrine of men and of devils used by the assembly and others to keep men quite. My communication has a reasonable purpose and is profitable. I request you clarify and state specifically what claims you refer to as to "ARE NOT even Biblical"? I assure you that if you or any one comes to me with a sincere heart I am fully and completely prepared to teach and preach to you the Truth and Light of the Gospel of Christ as is also stated in
1 Tim 1:18 This charge I commit unto thee, son Timothy, according to the prophecies which went before on thee, that thou by them mightest war a good warfare;

1 Tim 5:20 Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.

2 Tim 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

2 Timothy 4:2
Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

Titus 2:15
These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.

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